**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 16 02:59:58 2010 Oct 16 05:20:41 anyone here got a beagleboard xm? Oct 16 07:51:52 daurnimator, There's a few folk who reported they had them, and the omap3 images were reported to work on them. It may be that you'll get a better response to a specific question. Oct 16 15:02:38 hi all while running apt-get install in chroot environment getting message as Unsupported ioctl: cmd=0xc020660b Oct 16 15:03:16 yes, you can ignore that Oct 16 15:03:29 ogra, but why this comes? Oct 16 15:03:45 any issue in my chroot environment? Oct 16 15:03:46 because qemu-static hasnt implemented this ioctl Oct 16 15:03:51 no Oct 16 15:04:05 every binary you run in your chroot is wrapped in qemu Oct 16 15:04:11 its a qemu issue Oct 16 15:04:19 ogra, oho then i can add bug for qemu Oct 16 15:04:47 check before ... i think there might be one already Oct 16 15:05:15 ogra_ac, compiling and creating .deb for armel in chroot is feeling quite slower process Oct 16 15:05:37 ogra_ac, is there any way to do cross compile for arm in x86 Oct 16 15:05:40 its faster than in a VM but yes, still slow Oct 16 15:06:03 dhiry2k, yes if you run maverick (10.10) hrw|gone can give you info Oct 16 15:06:09 ogra_ac, what is normally preferred way to creating deb for armel Oct 16 15:06:12 (he maintains the cross tools) Oct 16 15:06:26 native compilation is the preferred way Oct 16 15:07:00 ogra_ac, native means compiling in armel os itself Oct 16 15:07:02 ? Oct 16 15:07:30 yes Oct 16 15:07:38 thats how we build the whole distro Oct 16 15:08:29 ogra_ac, i have created filesystem using rootstock for 10.10 Oct 16 15:08:43 but each time rootstock takes packages from repo Oct 16 15:09:26 i need to divert rootstock to local directory where i kept almost all packages Oct 16 15:09:43 and remaining it should take from repository Oct 16 15:09:49 can it possible? Oct 16 15:10:47 can't you copy and install them after you've created the image? Oct 16 15:12:00 rcn-ee, first i created image with gnome not want to try with xfce then main basic packages already i have need not necessary to redownload Oct 16 15:12:08 just downoad xfce4 Oct 16 15:12:27 i want to create different images of different display manager Oct 16 15:12:39 but base packages for all are same Oct 16 15:12:40 use a cache: like apt-cacher-ng ? Oct 16 15:13:06 rcn-ee, can you elaborate it ..how to use this for rootstock Oct 16 15:13:33 approx ftw Oct 16 15:13:52 dhiry2k, with ubuntu/debian there's lots of *.deb cache/proxy tools to save bandwidth, the one i use is "apt-cacher-ng" Oct 16 15:14:46 with rootstock i point to it with: "--mirror http://192.168.0.10:3142/ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports" Oct 16 15:15:38 just remember, your final image will have "192.168.0.10" in the /etc/apt/source.list so if you give it to someone else, remembet to edit that.. Oct 16 15:16:49 but i am feeling if i give gdm or xfce,lxde either of this then rootstock takes many packages which i dont need Oct 16 15:17:05 so always needed to to remove packages manually Oct 16 15:17:13 after creating filesystem Oct 16 15:17:33 last i tried lxde it brought in a lot of extra stuff, 'xfce' by itself is still pretty minimal... Oct 16 15:17:34 just use ubuntu-minimal then Oct 16 15:17:59 save that ... and then add on top of a copy Oct 16 15:18:24 ogra_ac, ubuntu_minimal has any desktop environment or need to add manually Oct 16 15:18:38 for xfce, i use this to get a prety minimal desktop: "--seed xfce4,gdm,xubuntu-gdm-theme,xubuntu-artwork,xserver-xorg-video-omap3" Oct 16 15:18:42 minimal is minimal console system Oct 16 15:19:26 rcn-ee, lxde looks good diaplay manager Oct 16 15:19:53 but i have seen my board gets heated after some time of running display manager Oct 16 15:19:58 yeah i used it by default with jaunty on my beagle.. Oct 16 15:20:22 heated: wait till the pm changes in 2.6.37... Oct 16 15:20:31 rcn-ee, have faced issue of heating Oct 16 15:20:55 have you faced issue of heating Oct 16 15:21:27 yes... even in mainline, only the cpu idle bits are their, the core other wise runs at what ever clock speed you give it.. Oct 16 15:22:17 looking at what's going in 2.6.37 it'll get a lot better... Oct 16 15:22:27 how to improve performance on beagle for display manager and running different application at same time Oct 16 15:22:46 upgrade the HW to a pandaboard ;) Oct 16 15:23:23 ogra_ac, you mean pandaboard has more ram and better CPU? Oct 16 15:23:42 just on the beagle? make sure your running it as fast as it can.. bx/cx = 600, c4 = 720, xm (800, 1Ghz with 2.6.37).. lots of swap.. really fast usb-harddrives as rootfs.. Oct 16 15:23:50 dual core 1GHz and 1GB ram, yes Oct 16 15:24:58 rcn-ee, i not created swap Oct 16 15:25:16 how to swap ? Oct 16 15:25:20 that'll kill the desktop experience.. Oct 16 15:25:23 how to add swap Oct 16 15:25:58 since you've allready partition, used the swap file option: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq Oct 16 15:26:40 yeah, you should use swap files in any case Oct 16 15:26:47 dont use swap partitions on SD Oct 16 15:27:22 but sometimes you just have to. ;) Oct 16 15:45:38 ogra_ac, rcn-ee thanks it worked Oct 16 20:04:39 ogra, oem-config still doesn't work because gdm starts instead as usual Oct 16 20:04:49 the permissions are fine now I fixed rootstock but gdm is still in the way Oct 16 20:05:01 well, doesnt happen for anyone else Oct 16 20:05:10 must ne necause you touch the rootfs Oct 16 20:05:13 could it be 100% down to lack of initramfs? Oct 16 20:05:18 no Oct 16 20:05:23 10%? Oct 16 20:05:26 heh Oct 16 20:05:27 no Oct 16 20:05:54 okay so ruling that out what on earth makes it so that gdm starts and then ubiquity-dm just complains and complains in the background that it cannot start X? Oct 16 20:06:30 likely still permissions for dbus Oct 16 20:06:36 but they're fine Oct 16 20:07:09 that gdm starts at all means the tar fix in rootstock worked Oct 16 20:07:26 (otherwise /var/lib/gdm is owned by hplip on my system :) Oct 16 20:08:09 could it be that rootstock simply fails to set up dbus properly when doing the chroot and this is the problem not so much the correct permissions but lack of actually setting permissions Oct 16 20:10:13 might be Oct 16 20:10:34 no idea, really, i just know it works for others that dont touch the filesystem Oct 16 20:11:02 rootstock-201010121152.log:WARNING:root:Failed to setup dbus (ignoring) Oct 16 20:11:05 for instance :) Oct 16 20:11:19 we don't touch it either Oct 16 20:11:25 I extracted a rootstock directly to an SD card Oct 16 20:11:46 I even tried leaving the image there, mounting it, and rsyncing to sd card Oct 16 20:11:48 Failed to setup dbus is expected in a chroot Oct 16 20:11:58 thats what its supposed to do Oct 16 20:11:58 qemu should fix it? Oct 16 20:12:06 or firstboot? Oct 16 20:12:25 dbus sets up itself on first start, right Oct 16 20:12:36 see its init script Oct 16 20:18:12 so frustrating Oct 16 20:18:26 anyway I really popped in here to ask since I noticed.. linux-headers-linaro-imx51?? Oct 16 20:20:08 wrong channel ;) Oct 16 20:20:18 * ogra_ac points to #linaro Oct 16 20:20:43 yeah I guessed as much :D Oct 16 20:21:09 its plain upstream afaik Oct 16 20:43:42 i am trying to run unity, but I get a message on required driver missing.. any ideas? Oct 16 20:43:56 get a driver ? Oct 16 20:44:08 ogra_ac: what driver? Oct 16 20:44:14 unity-driver? Oct 16 20:44:16 one that supports 3D Oct 16 20:44:40 unity makes heavy use of GL Oct 16 20:45:09 uhm.. that might be tricky as i am on a imx51 netbook Oct 16 20:45:21 not sure if that is supported Oct 16 20:45:40 ask Neko :) Oct 16 20:46:04 but its unlikely that even if you have a driver it will work Oct 16 20:46:14 on ARM GL usually means GLES Oct 16 20:46:37 which is only a subset of GL and parts of unity are still not supporting it fully Oct 16 20:46:40 I believe GLES is supported by omaps Oct 16 20:47:13 oh! so, unity not for ARM? Oct 16 20:47:57 linrao might need to fiix that :) Oct 16 20:48:00 not yet Oct 16 20:48:08 there is work going on for it Oct 16 20:48:11 in linaro Oct 16 20:48:19 and the canonical DX team Oct 16 20:48:24 and in TI Oct 16 20:48:33 but its not there yet Oct 16 20:48:42 not FSL? Oct 16 20:48:46 i saw unity running for a few mins on a pandaboard Oct 16 20:48:59 but it still locks up often Oct 16 20:49:17 zumbi_, no idea ubuntu-arm doesnt do anything with FSL anymore Oct 16 20:49:21 they dropped out Oct 16 20:49:33 uhm.. bad for them Oct 16 20:49:39 we will be supporting it soooooon Oct 16 20:49:58 Neko, lol Oct 16 20:49:59 Neko: what will we be supporting soon? Oct 16 20:50:08 there are some things we want to fix first and building other packages takes precedence Oct 16 20:50:16 so you plan to rewirite clutter alone ? Oct 16 20:50:20 we did ship GL libs one time but.. they are buggy :D Oct 16 20:50:27 ah, GL Oct 16 20:50:28 not clutter, just shipping GLES Oct 16 20:50:30 i thought unity Oct 16 20:51:20 ogra_ac: out of curiosity, is unity related to Erlang programming language? Oct 16 20:51:37 might be Oct 16 20:51:40 i saw some erlang dependencies, but i was not sure if it is related Oct 16 20:52:09 i think something is using erlang in the default install nowadays, might be ubuntu-one though Oct 16 20:52:25 I thought ubuntu-one used python Oct 16 20:52:43 Erlang is quite impressive **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Oct 17 02:59:58 2010