**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 29 02:59:58 2010
Nov 29 04:37:37 <jacquesdptd> hey guys
Nov 29 04:38:40 <jacquesdptd> i don't know if you remind me, i came here to have info about the port i was trying to make of Ubuntu 10.10 mobile on my wits a81-e wich is a omap3 beagleboard like tablet with 256 ram
Nov 29 04:39:51 <jacquesdptd> And some helped me and told me i had to find the kernel info (android 2.2 running on it) and then change the flash booting files, to boot ubuntu from sd card as said on the Official arm Ubuntu preinstalled page
Nov 29 04:40:03 <jacquesdptd> well, i think i found what i was needing
Nov 29 04:40:14 <jacquesdptd> http://code.google.com/p/a81linux/downloads/list
Nov 29 04:40:49 <jacquesdptd> if anyone can confirm, if that are the right files, i'll try it in 5 hours cause i don't hve the time now
Nov 29 04:41:09 <jacquesdptd> but i would have liked just to have a sort of, "That's it man" thx
Nov 29 05:48:24 <henry1> No command deb in my Lucid for "deb https://wiki.linaro.org/WorkingGroups/ToolChain/CrossCompilerOnLucid". "apt-get install deb" could not find it as weel.
Nov 29 05:51:34 <StevenK> henry1: add-apt-repository "    *
Nov 29 05:51:36 <StevenK>       deb http://people.canonical.com/~hrw/ubuntu-lucid-armel-cross-compilers/ ./ "
Nov 29 05:51:43 <StevenK> Sigh, cut-n-paste fail
Nov 29 05:52:21 <StevenK> add-apt-repository "deb http://people.canonical.com/~hrw/ubuntu-lucid-armel-cross-compilers/ ./"
Nov 29 05:55:56 <henry1> Got it. But get another error: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:hrw/arm-cross-compiler
Nov 29 05:55:56 <henry1> Error: can't find signing_key_fingerprint at https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~hrw/+archive/arm-cross-compiler
Nov 29 05:58:38 <StevenK> henry1: That doesn't work because the PPA doesn't exist
Nov 29 05:59:05 <henry1> what does PPA mean?
Nov 29 05:59:44 <StevenK> henry1: A PPA is an archive hosted by Launchpad, hrw's cross compiler is done seperately
Nov 29 06:00:01 <StevenK> henry1: Run the add-apt-repository as I typed it with a sudo in the front
Nov 29 06:05:14 <henry1> what is a full command for  "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:hrw/arm-cross-compiler"?
Nov 29 06:05:50 <StevenK> henry1: sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://people.canonical.com/~hrw/ubuntu-lucid-armel-cross-compilers/ ./"
Nov 29 06:14:04 <henry1> got error doing "sudo apt-get update":W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/hrw/arm-cross-compiler/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
Nov 29 06:14:04 <henry1> W: Failed to fetch https://wiki.linaro.org/WorkingGroups/ToolChain/CrossCompilerOnLucid/./Packages.gz  The requested URL returned error: 404
Nov 29 08:10:56 <hrw> heh...
Nov 29 08:11:05 <hrw> people - start *reading*
Nov 29 08:11:24 <hrw> https://wiki.linaro.org/WorkingGroups/ToolChain/CrossCompilerOnLucid says exactly what sources.list line should look
Nov 29 08:11:42 <hrw> and my PPA was removed and will not come back
Nov 29 08:12:21 <hrw> ppa:hrw/arm-cross-compiler was dropped - it will not be back. eot
Nov 29 11:59:06 <rbelem> jacquesdptd, do you have the bootloader to boot from sd?
Nov 29 13:24:43 <NCommand1r> ogra: https://launchpad.net/bugs/675347 - source of Qt FTBS
Nov 29 13:24:46 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 675347 in gcc-4.5 (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "volatile int causes inline assembly build failure (affects: 4) (dups: 2) (heat: 32)" [High,Confirmed]
Nov 29 13:42:33 <NCommand1r> ogra_ac: did you see the above link?
Nov 29 13:44:37 <ogra_ac> nope
Nov 29 13:45:02 <ogra_ac> can you repost
Nov 29 13:46:34 <NCommand1r> 08:17:29 < NCommand1r> ogra: https://launchpad.net/bugs/675347 - source of Qt FTBS
Nov 29 13:46:38 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 675347 in gcc-4.5 (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "volatile int causes inline assembly build failure (affects: 4) (dups: 2) (heat: 32)" [High,Confirmed]
Nov 29 13:46:38 <NCommand1r> ^- ogra_ac
Nov 29 13:46:43 <NCommand1r> bah
Nov 29 13:47:41 <NCommand1r> and now I am me
Nov 29 13:47:54 <ogra_ac> NCommand1r, yeah, i know that one
Nov 29 13:48:16 <NCommand1r> ogra_ac: right, so if/when that gets fixed, we get transmission + libproxy fvixed
Nov 29 13:49:02 <ogra_ac> did you talk to doko ?
Nov 29 13:49:14 <ogra_ac> the last comment indicates there is a fix/workaround
Nov 29 13:49:40 <ogra_ac> by revering a patch
Nov 29 13:52:33 <NCommand1r> nope
Nov 29 13:52:35 <NCommand1r> not yet
Nov 29 13:52:43 <ogra_ac> i did on -devel
Nov 29 13:52:49 <ogra_ac> lets see what he says
Nov 29 13:52:59 <ogra_ac> i wouldnt like to miss A1
Nov 29 13:56:46 <NCommand1r> ogra_ac: I'm pretty happy to unseed transmission, and whack libproxy on armel only
Nov 29 13:56:50 <NCommand1r> then revert after milestone
Nov 29 13:57:18 <ogra_ac> NCommand1r, i would like to avoid it if possible
Nov 29 13:57:31 <ogra_ac> and looking at the ftbfs list that wont be our only probs
Nov 29 13:57:32 <NCommand1r> ogra_ac: indeed, but if all ele fails ...
Nov 29 13:57:52 <dmart> NCommand1r: do you know why understand which -fstrict-volatile-bitfields breaks this?
Nov 29 13:58:05 <NCommand1r> dmart: ECONTEXTNEEDED
Nov 29 13:58:05 <rsalveti> morning :-)
Nov 29 13:58:07 <NCommand1r> ...
Nov 29 13:58:10 <ogra_ac> ah, at least gnome-python-extras built
Nov 29 13:58:13 <NCommand1r> why did I loose my nick again?
Nov 29 13:58:28 <ogra_ac> NCommand1r, i guess dmart means the bug above
Nov 29 13:58:33 <dmart> < NCommand1r> 08:17:29 < NCommand1r> ogra: https://launchpad.net/bugs/675347 - source of Qt FTBS
Nov 29 13:58:36 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 675347 in gcc-4.5 (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "volatile int causes inline assembly build failure (affects: 4) (dups: 2) (heat: 32)" [High,Confirmed]
Nov 29 13:58:57 <dmart> Since _q_value isn't a bitfield in the example, I'm confused.
Nov 29 13:59:35 <dmart> I also wonder whether using _q_value twice with different constraints is causing extra confusion?
Nov 29 14:00:10 <NCommander> ogra_ac: doko said that he won't do a compiler upload until past A1
Nov 29 14:00:43 <NCommander> dmart: I'm eyeing it now
Nov 29 14:01:10 <ogra_ac> NCommander, hmm, where did he say that ?
Nov 29 14:01:20 <ogra_ac> he didnt answer in -devel
Nov 29 14:01:23 <NCommander> ogra_ac: comment on the bug
Nov 29 14:01:31 <NCommander> "please no compiler upload before alpha-1 is out
Nov 29 14:01:32 <NCommander> "
Nov 29 14:01:35 <NCommander> on 11-23-2010
Nov 29 14:02:16 <ogra_ac> hrm, k
Nov 29 14:02:48 <ogra_ac> ha!
Nov 29 14:02:55 <ogra_ac> gnupnp is off the list too
Nov 29 14:03:36 <NCommander> ogra_ac: nice, no-changes whacking is my favorite time of bug to squish
Nov 29 14:05:15 <NCommander> dmart: http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2010-09/msg00155.html
Nov 29 14:05:47 <NCommander> I can't actually find an explaination of what the heck it does though
Nov 29 14:15:03 <dmart> NCommander: my guess is that -fstrict-volatile-bitfields causes attempts to access a volatile bitfield (which is invalid C) to be treated as an error.
Nov 29 14:15:21 <NCommander> dmart: its an optimization
Nov 29 14:15:27 <NCommander> I found half a code comment in a diff
Nov 29 14:15:35 <NCommander> I just downloaded GCC to get the rest of said comment
Nov 29 14:15:59 <dmart> The patch you mention seems to be related to an optimisation where a bitfield is accessed with a normal access (say to access 8 nicely aligned bits within a word)
Nov 29 14:16:18 <NCommander> dmart: its in the documentation (which isn't on the website)
Nov 29 14:16:22 <NCommander> give me five minutes and I'll pastebin it
Nov 29 14:16:26 <dmart> ok
Nov 29 14:26:47 <NCommander> dmart: looks like it was deleted from the documentation
Nov 29 14:26:49 <NCommander> WTF
Nov 29 14:29:03 <NCommander> dmart: http://paste.ubuntu.com/537908/
Nov 29 14:29:07 <NCommander> Correction, in SVN only
Nov 29 14:30:09 <NCommander> dmart: I get why this was enabled, but non-aligned access is supported for v6 and greater, right?
Nov 29 14:36:12 <Tscheesy> rbelem: re - thx.. i guess you missunderstod me - uboot is installed - the nitdroid-Kernel you mentioned is my Problem.. i do not have a u-boot-Image from this Kernel ;)
Nov 29 14:36:53 <rbelem> oh!
Nov 29 14:37:31 <Tscheesy> only the source - but i can't compile it though no running Nitroid on n900 here
Nov 29 14:38:03 <rbelem> Tscheesy, are your n900 running pr1.3?
Nov 29 14:38:07 <Tscheesy> yes
Nov 29 14:38:15 <Tscheesy> u-boot works fine
Nov 29 14:38:59 <rbelem> Tscheesy, Tscheesy you can download the nitdroid kernel in binary form. let me check the link
Nov 29 14:39:48 <Tscheesy> ah - i read that Notdroid uses Multiboot - did you find a u-boot Binary? or is it the same?
Nov 29 14:40:14 <rbelem> Tscheesy, you can use the same binary
Nov 29 14:40:20 <Tscheesy> ahh
Nov 29 14:40:49 <rbelem> Tscheesy, you need to copy the modules to /lib/modules/<kernel-version>
Nov 29 14:40:56 <rbelem> from nitdroid
Nov 29 14:41:04 <Tscheesy> those fromm meego?
Nov 29 14:41:13 <Tscheesy> a k
Nov 29 14:41:30 <rbelem> Tscheesy, from the nitdroid rootfs
Nov 29 14:41:56 <Tscheesy> ok - the Kernel itself?
Nov 29 14:42:23 <Tscheesy> also then?
Nov 29 14:42:42 <Tscheesy> i'll get a Nitroid rootfs then.. thx
Nov 29 14:42:48 <rbelem> Tscheesy, the kernel and the modules
Nov 29 14:43:43 <rbelem> Tscheesy, you can install nitdroid to the external sd, copy the needed files to the ubuntu rootfs
Nov 29 14:43:51 <Tscheesy> ok .. saw screenshot from kubuntu-mobile recently on kubuntu-twitter i guess
Nov 29 14:43:59 <rbelem> :-)
Nov 29 14:44:37 <Tscheesy> i'll changeroot into nitdroid rootfs - should work though
Nov 29 14:44:49 <dmart> NCommander: http://paste.ubuntu.com/537908/> thanks
Nov 29 14:45:52 <dmart> I don't understand which this is biting us though - the _q_value field in the example attached to the bug is a naturally aligned int
Nov 29 14:46:15 <dmart> -fstrict-volatile-bitfields (or the absence of it) should be irrelevant to this case ...?#
Nov 29 14:46:54 <NCommander> dmart: is it possible the compiler is generating a false positive and bombing out where it shouldn't?
Nov 29 14:47:10 <dmart> I guess
Nov 29 14:47:46 <dmart> There are some possible oddities in the contraints for the inline asm--- I suggested some possible alternatives in the bug, but I'm not convinced it's wrong as-is or that my changes will improve matters...
Nov 29 14:52:57 <NCommander> it clear though the correct solution isn't to back out this change
Nov 29 14:53:19 <ScottK> NCommander: It depends.  How long are you going to leave the toolchain broken?
Nov 29 14:54:12 <NCommander> ScottK: not sure, still reading.
Nov 29 14:54:44 <NCommander> ScottK: the change in GCC is correct because the ARM ABI says that you shouldn't to unaligned accesses (you can on newer harder, but the current ABI predates that)
Nov 29 14:58:05 <ScottK> NCommander: Reverting to gcc-4.5 4.5.1-9ubuntu1 would solve my problem very nicely.
Nov 29 14:58:26 <NCommander> ScottK: and mine, but its the wrong fix unfortunately, and doko has said no toolchain uploads for A1
Nov 29 14:59:01 <ScottK> Except of course for the one he did after he said that.
Nov 29 14:59:20 <NCommander> ScottK: file a bug on doko then
Nov 29 14:59:35 <ScottK> NCommander: I know it won't get fixed for Alpha 1.  I'd just like it fixed eventually (where eventually is early enough in the cycle we can still do something useful)
Nov 29 15:02:05 <ogra_ac> NCommander, i still dont see wheer he said that, its not on the bug
Nov 29 15:03:33 <NCommander> ogra_ac: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gcc-linaro/+bug/675347/comments/20
Nov 29 15:03:36 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 675347 in gcc-4.5 (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "volatile int causes inline assembly build failure (affects: 4) (dups: 2) (heat: 32)" [High,Confirmed]
Nov 29 15:04:31 <ogra_ac> oh, thats ages ago
Nov 29 15:14:31 <Tscheesy> Hi - as i understand the nitroid installation has no Kernel itself and the multiboot-Kernel is installed on maemo? - i do use u-boot (wan't to install kubuntu-mobile) and just need the kernel and the modules ( /lib/modules/<kernel-version> )
Nov 29 15:14:40 <Tscheesy> ups - wrong chan
Nov 29 15:15:00 <Tscheesy> this goes to #nitdroid
Nov 29 15:15:43 <rbelem> :-)
Nov 29 15:50:18 <berco> ogra_ac: do you have the kernel from -proposed running? if yes, what do you have in /proc/asound/cards?
Nov 29 16:32:43 <ogra> berco, ogra@panda:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
Nov 29 16:32:43 <ogra>  0 [Panda          ]: OMAP4 - Panda
Nov 29 16:32:43 <ogra>                       TI OMAP4 Board
Nov 29 16:33:00 <ogra> alsactl matches for Panda or Blaze now
Nov 29 16:36:40 <berco> ogra: looks like in our most recent kernel we miss the OMAP4 name
Nov 29 16:37:28 <rsalveti> hm, not that sure
Nov 29 16:39:43 <rsalveti> berco: latest on maverick's main is 2.6.35-903.17, that contains the audio patches already
Nov 29 16:39:48 <rsalveti> or am I missing something?
Nov 29 16:40:22 <berco> ogra: rsalveti: I think I understand my pb. I lend my board and the guy changed my kernel. I don't have the pb on my panda, only on blaze
Nov 29 16:40:31 <rsalveti> proposed is 2.6.35-903.19, and just has 2 unrelated fixes
Nov 29 16:40:38 <berco> which I lend
Nov 29 16:40:54 <rsalveti> oh, ok
Nov 29 16:45:47 <berco> rsalveti: ogra: updating alsa-utils from 1.0.23-2ubuntu3 to 1.0.23-2ubuntu3.4
Nov 29 16:45:57 <berco> still gives me errors with the right kernel
Nov 29 16:46:12 <berco> I have the following 3 lines
Nov 29 16:46:12 <berco> sudo bash -c "sudo echo performance > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor"
Nov 29 16:46:13 <rsalveti> hm, the error was expected only with the released kernel
Nov 29 16:46:27 <berco> oops sorry, wrong copy/paste
Nov 29 16:46:32 <berco> No protocol specified
Nov 29 16:46:32 <berco> xcb_connection_has_error() returned true
Nov 29 16:46:32 <berco> Home directory /home/ubuntu not ours.
Nov 29 16:46:33 <rsalveti> :-)
Nov 29 16:46:58 <rsalveti> berco: and are you trying this on blaze or panda?
Nov 29 16:47:08 <berco> rsalveti: I'm on panda right now
Nov 29 16:47:24 <rsalveti> berco: what error are you getting? post inst fail?
Nov 29 16:47:47 <rsalveti> if so, the problem is the alsactl init
Nov 29 16:47:57 <rsalveti> that should happen only with the older kernel
Nov 29 16:48:03 <berco> rsalveti: posinst is failing for me b'cos of the alsactl init
Nov 29 16:48:32 <rsalveti> berco: what is your kernel version?
Nov 29 16:48:36 <berco> rsalveti: if I remove the call to alsactl init I don't see the issue
Nov 29 16:48:53 <berco> rsalveti: 2.6.35-980-omap4 #1release3
Nov 29 16:48:57 <rsalveti> berco: yeah, I also got that some time ago, ogra_ac was looking for the proper fix
Nov 29 16:49:07 <rsalveti> and the 3.4 got on main wrongly
Nov 29 16:49:16 <rsalveti> hm, your own kernel
Nov 29 16:49:27 <berco> well, TI internal kernel
Nov 29 16:49:49 <rsalveti> proc/asound/cards matches with what oliver got?
Nov 29 16:50:16 <berco> but I verified, we do have the changes and it matches ogra's output for proc/asound/cards
Nov 29 16:51:03 <rsalveti> berco: what is your error message?
Nov 29 16:51:54 <berco> rsalveti: here is my output http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/537969/
Nov 29 16:56:03 <rsalveti> berco: your alsa-utils is not complaining about the lack of a proper machine name
Nov 29 16:56:30 <rsalveti> but is giving 3 error messages I never saw
Nov 29 16:56:35 <rsalveti> weird
Nov 29 16:56:58 <berco> rsalveti: no. This was the issue I had with my wrong kernel running on my blaze. Sorry about this confusion.
Nov 29 16:57:08 <rsalveti> ok
Nov 29 16:57:39 <berco> rsalveti: I tried "sudo alsactl init" -> it gives me similar error. If I run without "sudo" no issue.
Nov 29 16:58:25 <Tscheesy> hm .. damaged Superblock on my install of the preinstalled-kubuntu-mobile port für omap3 ?? so then.. once again..
Nov 29 17:05:51 <Tscheesy> (but zcat didnot work here - i had to dd the image on the sd-card - which could have caused that)
Nov 29 17:06:51 <rsalveti> berco: so if you just update it, it's not going to use sudo, then you're fine
Nov 29 17:07:34 <hrw> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/682742 looks like duplicate of bug 675347
Nov 29 17:07:35 <ubot2> hrw: Bug 675347 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/675347 is private
Nov 29 17:07:45 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 682742 in gcc-4.5 (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "volatile int causes inline assembly build failure (affects: 4) (dups: 2) (heat: 32)" [High,Confirmed]
Nov 29 17:08:45 * hrw out
Nov 29 17:11:52 <berco> rsalveti: I'm not sure I understand the procedure. How do you update alsa-utils?
Nov 29 17:12:08 <ogra> Tscheesy, why/how did zcat not work ?
Nov 29 17:12:19 <ogra> berco, update-manager runs as root
Nov 29 17:13:01 <rsalveti> or even apt-get upgrade
Nov 29 17:13:11 <ogra> yeah
Nov 29 17:13:37 <berco> rsalveti: ogra: ok. So you mean if I go through update-manager, it will work? When I do apt-get upgrade, it asks me for root privileges...
Nov 29 17:13:50 <ogra> thats fine
Nov 29 17:18:58 <Kamondelious> is the uvc driver not available for ubuntu-arm?
Nov 29 17:21:01 <berco> ogra: rsalveti: going through update-manager worked. So for people like me who use apt-get install, it won't
Nov 29 17:21:01 <Kamondelious> sorry, i'm behind myself
Nov 29 17:21:26 <rsalveti> berco: apt-get should work the same way
Nov 29 17:21:34 <rsalveti> as it runs as root
Nov 29 17:21:38 <ogra> berco, if it doesnt, file a bug
Nov 29 17:21:45 <ogra> (a new one)
Nov 29 17:23:01 <berco> ogra: ok. I use "sudo apt-get install alsa-utils" it shows me those 3 lines of error. Updating via update-manager, it also asks for "root" password but I don't see any error in the UI or in /var/log/dpkg.log
Nov 29 17:23:36 <ogra> berco, might be an issue with sudo or some such
Nov 29 17:23:56 <ogra> use ubuntu-bug sudo to file it and see, there might be one already
Nov 29 17:25:03 <rsalveti> maybe you changed your sudo settings  or something like that
Nov 29 17:25:19 <rsalveti> try apt-get after getting a root session with sudo su -
Nov 29 17:25:20 <tmzt_g2root> is there a good graphical installer for arm devices using X?
Nov 29 17:25:39 <ogra> tmzt_g2root, its preinstalled on our omap/omap4 images
Nov 29 17:25:47 <ogra> we use it by default
Nov 29 17:27:20 <tmzt_g2root> I'm building something like wubi for android phones and I would rather start with an existing framework
Nov 29 17:27:34 <tmzt_g2root> ah, ok. what packages would I see to do that?
Nov 29 17:27:38 <tmzt_g2root> seed
Nov 29 17:28:05 <ogra> oem-config-gtk
Nov 29 17:28:09 <Tscheesy> ogra: zcat then sync - sd-card was still empty (unmounted state..)
Nov 29 17:28:32 <ogra> Tscheesy, and you had the quoting right for the sudo command ?
Nov 29 17:28:47 <ogra> thats critical and i can imagine that people get it wrong
Nov 29 17:28:53 <Tscheesy> i'll give it another try :)
Nov 29 17:29:28 <Tscheesy> first i wrote a few devices :D
Nov 29 17:31:58 <Tscheesy> but >/dev/mmcblk0 should work imO
Nov 29 17:32:47 <berco> rsalveti: sudo su -; apt-get install alsa-utils
Nov 29 17:32:53 <berco> rsalveti: same error
Nov 29 17:33:28 <berco> rsalveti: well, almost. I don't see the /home/ubuntu is not ours ... message
Nov 29 17:33:42 <berco> only first 2 lines of errors in this configuration
Nov 29 17:36:30 <rsalveti> weird, don't know why you're getting an error message from xcb
Nov 29 17:37:07 <rsalveti> try to trace it, to see where it uses xcb and when you're getting these errors
Nov 29 17:37:22 <ogra> i dont really get where it gets the /home/ubuntu from
Nov 29 17:37:36 <ogra> that looks like boarkage with our image
Nov 29 17:37:46 <rsalveti> seems the sudo configuration is broken somehow
Nov 29 17:38:19 <berco> rsalveti: ogra: I haven't changed my sudo config. Are you not seeing this error?
Nov 29 17:38:20 <ogra> well, that still doesnt explain why it looks for 7home7ubuntu
Nov 29 17:38:32 <ogra> such users shouldnt exist on our images
Nov 29 17:38:44 <ogra> looks somewhat like a live image
Nov 29 17:38:56 <berco> ogra: I created ubuntu user at install time
Nov 29 17:39:42 <berco> when you first run the setup it will prompt you for a user name. I always call it "ubuntu" :)
Nov 29 17:39:56 <rsalveti> berco: I'm not having this issue here
Nov 29 17:40:04 * ogra neither
Nov 29 17:40:15 <berco> using apt-get install?
Nov 29 17:40:28 <ogra> i wonder if teher is something messing with that username in oem-config
Nov 29 17:40:39 <ogra> since that name is usually the live user
Nov 29 17:40:50 <rsalveti> I usually use ubuntu for every user here :-)
Nov 29 17:40:52 <rsalveti> and it works fine
Nov 29 17:40:58 <ogra> k
Nov 29 17:40:58 <rsalveti> as does GrueMaster_
Nov 29 17:41:04 <berco> I can try with a different user as I also created a "berco" one :)
Nov 29 17:41:09 <ogra> i never use ubuntu nor admin as names :)
Nov 29 17:42:39 <naveensr89> hi..
Nov 29 17:43:00 <naveensr89> i'm having problems with installing ubuntu on beagleboard.
Nov 29 17:43:55 <naveensr89> while installing its giving migration assistant error 141.
Nov 29 17:44:54 <naveensr89> need help.
Nov 29 17:47:54 <GrueMaster_> rsalveti: I heard my name.  what's up?
Nov 29 17:48:16 <rsalveti> GrueMaster_: hey, berco is having issues with his sudo and apt-get
Nov 29 17:48:36 <rsalveti> we were thinking if using the user as ubuntu could lead to the error
Nov 29 17:48:50 <rsalveti> but I also use it here and I believe you also use it while testing the images
Nov 29 17:49:14 <rsalveti> user = user name
Nov 29 17:49:24 <GrueMaster_> Looking at the command he posted in scrollback, he has a ; between sudo and apt-get, so apt-get is not running as superuser.
Nov 29 17:50:25 <tmzt_g2root> ogra: anything that supports debian-installer tasks, parted, etc. I need to manage loop images, not so much the user name
Nov 29 17:50:32 <GrueMaster_> And the password should be the user password.  There is no root password.
Nov 29 17:50:56 <ogra> tmzt_g2root, well, then ubiquity
Nov 29 17:51:25 <tmzt_g2root> I can run that fullscreen without launching a desktop?
Nov 29 17:52:10 <tmzt_g2root> wow #ubuntu-installer
Nov 29 17:52:15 <ogra> if you have "only-ubiquity" on the cmdline
Nov 29 17:52:49 <tmzt_g2root> command line? will upstart even run in a chroot?
Nov 29 17:52:53 <tmzt_g2root> usefully
Nov 29 17:57:00 <tmzt_g2root> ah, what did you say in these slides about images expanding on first boot? is that using an initrd?
Nov 29 17:57:08 <tmzt_g2root> slides: omap_talk.ppt
Nov 29 17:57:12 <berco> GrueMaster_: rsalveti: I just created a new user and I still experience the same issue.
Nov 29 17:57:33 <rsalveti> probably an issue with your system
Nov 29 17:57:49 <rsalveti> berco: can you trace it to see when you're getting these errors?
Nov 29 17:58:55 <GrueMaster_> Creating a new user does not automatically enable them as a sudoer.
Nov 29 17:59:10 <GrueMaster_> Try using the original account that was first created.
Nov 29 17:59:25 <berco> GrueMaster_: Shall I add this user to "sudo" group?
Nov 29 17:59:49 <berco> My "ubuntu" user is not in "sudo" group either as far as I can see
Nov 29 18:01:18 <GrueMaster_> Type "groups" to see what groups it is in.  It needs to have the admin group.
Nov 29 18:01:49 <berco> My new user is called "ob1" and groups command:
Nov 29 18:01:50 <berco> ob1 adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape dip video plugdev fuse
Nov 29 18:02:32 <GrueMaster_> What user account did you use to create the new user with?  That action can only be done by an admin.
Nov 29 18:03:39 <berco> GrueMaster_: so I used my "ubuntu" user which has been created during the install in order to create the "ob1" user
Nov 29 18:04:17 <GrueMaster_> Ok, so log in as ubuntu and see what groups it has.
Nov 29 18:05:00 <berco> for "ubuntu" user, groups are:
Nov 29 18:05:13 <berco> chipsets adm dialout cdrom sudo plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare chipset ubuntu psir omapuntu omapa
Nov 29 18:05:37 <berco> well, I just added ubuntu to sudo group
Nov 29 18:06:26 <GrueMaster> You shouldn't need to.  The default in /etc/sudoers includes:
Nov 29 18:06:26 <GrueMaster> # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges
Nov 29 18:06:26 <GrueMaster> %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
Nov 29 18:06:52 <berco> GrueMaster: yep, I have this in my /etc/sudoers file
Nov 29 18:07:11 <GrueMaster> So, typing "sudo apt-get install <package>" as ubuntu user should work.  The password is the ubuntu user's password.
Nov 29 18:08:03 <berco> GrueMaster: yes, it works except when I update to alsa-utils version 1.0.23-2ubuntu3.4 from 1.0.23-2ubuntu3 version
Nov 29 18:08:31 <berco> GrueMaster: error I'm getting http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/537969/
Nov 29 18:08:32 <GrueMaster> I'll check into that soon.  What is the error you are getting?
Nov 29 18:08:38 <GrueMaster> Ah.  checking.
Nov 29 18:12:35 <GrueMaster> berco: I need a little time to reorg from the holiday week.  What TZ are you?
Nov 29 18:12:50 <berco> GMT+2
Nov 29 18:12:59 <berco> France
Nov 29 18:13:37 <GrueMaster> Hmm.  I see it is after 7pm there.  Will you still be online in ~30 minutes?
Nov 29 18:13:49 <berco> GrueMaster: Adding ubuntu to the sudo group didn't help
Nov 29 18:14:06 <ogra> sudo group ?
Nov 29 18:14:14 <ogra> you mean admin group, right ?
Nov 29 18:14:20 <berco> GrueMaster: was planning to go but can try to be online in ~30 min from home
Nov 29 18:14:34 <berco> ogra: no there's both admin and sudo groups
Nov 29 18:14:40 <ogra> sudo isnt used
Nov 29 18:14:49 <ogra> ubuntu uses admin only
Nov 29 18:14:49 <berco> my user was already in admin and added it to sudo too
Nov 29 18:15:01 <berco> so it makes sense the behavior hasn't changed
Nov 29 18:15:21 <ogra> right
Nov 29 18:15:46 * berco ok disconnecting and reconnecting from home in ~30min
Nov 29 18:16:06 <tmzt_g2root> ogra: what did you mean about the iamge resizing on first boot, is that done in an initrd?
Nov 29 18:16:12 <tmzt_g2root> is there a way to set the size?
Nov 29 18:16:18 <GrueMaster> The error you are seeing has nothing to do with permissions that I can see.  It looks like a post-install script error.
Nov 29 18:16:50 <ogra> its a cairo error
Nov 29 18:17:02 <ogra> i dont get how that could have anything to do with alsa
Nov 29 18:17:19 <ogra> http://xcb.freedesktop.org/manual/group__XCB__Core__API.html
Nov 29 18:17:47 <ogra> well, an X error at least
Nov 29 18:17:53 <ogra> not actually cairo
Nov 29 18:18:39 <ogra> tmzt_g2root, no, jasper-initramfs (the tool that does the resizing) just expands to the full free space on the SD card
Nov 29 18:19:05 <tmzt_g2root> so I need a hybrid of some kind
Nov 29 18:19:46 <ogra> anyway, time to leave for the day
Nov 29 18:19:54 * ogra might be online later again
Nov 29 19:18:28 <JohnKiller> hi guys, i've got a IGEPv2 arm board, with ubuntu 10.10 on a 4GB sd card. Kernel version is 2.6.35.7 (created with rootstock). Everything is fine, except for wifi. iwconfig shows only loopback and ethernet. On the official wiki they say to upgrade my kernel, but how??? thanks
Nov 29 19:43:14 <berco-mac> GrueMaster: have you been able to find anything?
Nov 29 19:44:13 <GrueMaster> Not yet.  Just getting set up.  Thought I had an existing image but all my SD cards are currently in Natty debug mode.
Nov 29 19:44:27 <GrueMaster> Should have one ready soon.
Nov 29 19:45:13 <berco-mac> can you email me if you find anything?
Nov 29 19:45:24 <GrueMaster> I have a 4G SD resizing now.  as soon as I get oem-config finished, I'll be ready.  15 minutes?
Nov 29 19:46:05 <berco-mac> ok. I wait 15min :)
Nov 29 20:04:10 <tmzt_g2root> rootstock is tiny :)
Nov 29 20:04:55 <tmzt_g2root> can you leave out the user password until oem-config runs?
Nov 29 20:06:21 <GrueMaster> berco-mac: Ok, updating package lists now.
Nov 29 20:07:16 <berco-mac> GrueMaster: almost at the point where I was...
Nov 29 20:11:36 <GrueMaster> Ok, first upgrading the kernel.
Nov 29 20:22:29 <GrueMaster> Gah.  No video with new kernel on my new HDMI monitor.
Nov 29 20:22:30 <tmzt_g2root> how does this work?
Nov 29 20:22:32 <tmzt_g2root> # using fakeroot so we're able to create the base rootfs as user
Nov 29 20:22:33 <tmzt_g2root>     LANG=C fakeroot debootstrap $DEFOPTS $EXTRAOPTS $DIST $ROOTFS $DMIRROR >$DBFIFO 2>&1 &
Nov 29 20:22:57 <tmzt_g2root> what does the result look like, it has to be fixed up later? or this only works with fuseext2
Nov 29 20:23:13 <rsalveti> GrueMaster: nothing?
Nov 29 20:23:17 <rsalveti> that's weird
Nov 29 20:23:37 <berco-mac> GrueMaster: are you able to enter console mode and exit "alt+F1" then "alt+F7" ?
Nov 29 20:23:48 <rsalveti> yeah, could be a fifo underflow issue
Nov 29 20:24:02 <berco-mac> GrueMaster: we have a known issue with this kernel
Nov 29 20:24:13 <GrueMaster> Give me a second.  I had to buy a new monitor last weekend and this is the first time I have booted with it.
Nov 29 20:26:46 <GrueMaster> rsalveti: looks like an edid issue.  The monitor is a Dell SR2220L LED 21" 1080P.
Nov 29 20:26:52 <topfs2> rsalveti, just wanted to ping you regarding https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/multimedia-arm-n-set-top-box We will be adding binary addons for xbmc in eden (next stable after the one that will be out any day). With the binary addons we will probably move codecs to addons and as such adding gstreamer for decoding will be possible
Nov 29 20:26:58 <GrueMaster> Swapping back to my 1280x1024 monitor.
Nov 29 20:27:14 <topfs2> We do use openmax currently though so not forced to use our ffmpeg. (Haven't had time to fix openmax for panda yet)
Nov 29 20:27:16 <rsalveti> GrueMaster: were you able to get anything on your screen?
Nov 29 20:27:23 <rsalveti> usually it should be just a resolution problem
Nov 29 20:27:30 <rsalveti> but need to debug it further
Nov 29 20:28:15 <topfs2> I have also looked into gstreamer overall and might be the one adding it as a decode part
Nov 29 20:28:32 <rsalveti> topfs2: awesome
Nov 29 20:28:37 <GrueMaster> Looks like a kernel issue.  Image works, but after adding -proposed and updating to latest kernel, no vid.  Not even on my old monitor.
Nov 29 20:28:54 <topfs2> So if you have any questions during the evaluation I'll be idling here also :)
Nov 29 20:29:29 <rsalveti> GrueMaster: AFAIK there was no video related change between release and proposed
Nov 29 20:29:42 <rsalveti> topfs2: nice, will ping you back then :-)
Nov 29 20:30:52 <GrueMaster> rsalveti: I'm staring at a blank screen.  Activity leds are flickering indicating activity on the SD.  Will enable console and see what I can see.
Nov 29 20:31:05 <rsalveti> GrueMaster: okey
Nov 29 20:37:05 <berco-mac> GrueMaster: have you tried this: http://omappedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Known_Issues#Screen_Blanking ?
Nov 29 20:37:49 <berco-mac> GrueMaster: from my exprience it resolves the issue temporarly
Nov 29 20:39:12 <GrueMaster> berco-mac: I am not seeing the same issue.
Nov 29 20:39:15 <GrueMaster> yet
Nov 29 20:39:54 <berco-mac> okay. it'll be interesting you send us the EDID info once you get some time
Nov 29 20:40:19 <GrueMaster> I think we may have a race condition with the SDP4430.
Nov 29 20:41:09 <GrueMaster> I'm seeing a ton of messages with "asoc: no valid backend routes for PCM: SDP4430 Media".
Nov 29 20:41:49 <GrueMaster> Screen is now light green pastel (ick).  switching to console and back has no effect on display output.
Nov 29 20:42:19 <GrueMaster> Need to add serial console login.  One sec.
Nov 29 20:42:51 <berco-mac> after updating the kernel package, you did the "flash-kernel" right?
Nov 29 20:43:06 <GrueMaster> That's an auto.
Nov 29 20:43:10 <rsalveti> GrueMaster: that message is normal with the released kernel
Nov 29 20:44:09 <rsalveti> after updating it, it should be fine
Nov 29 20:45:41 <GrueMaster> For logging purposes, this is kernel 2.6.35-903.19.
Nov 29 20:46:23 <berco-mac> sorry guys, I'll need to leave you 'till tomorrow.
Nov 29 20:46:28 <berco-mac> getting late here
Nov 29 20:46:56 <GrueMaster> berco-mac: Sorry I couldn't get to your issue.  I'll keep plugging away.  It is only 1pm here.
Nov 29 20:47:35 <berco-mac> GrueMaster: thanks
Nov 29 20:56:01 <GrueMaster> rsalveti: I have a serial tty up.  xrandr -d :0 looks normal.  Nothing in Xorg.0.log stands out.
Nov 29 20:56:10 <GrueMaster> Nothing in dmesg either.
Nov 29 20:57:06 <rsalveti> GrueMaster: try booting with omapdss.debug=1
Nov 29 20:57:21 <rsalveti> to see what the kernel says about your monitor
Nov 29 20:57:23 <GrueMaster> I did.  Nothing there I can see looks wrong.
Nov 29 20:57:28 <GrueMaster> dmesg
Nov 29 20:57:31 <GrueMaster> dmesg
Nov 29 20:57:33 <rsalveti> can you paste me the boot log?
Nov 29 20:57:40 <GrueMaster> damn window focus.
Nov 29 20:58:04 <GrueMaster> Only if I can type.  :P
Nov 29 20:59:09 * GrueMaster is back to 5 monitors, and semi-confused at times.
Nov 29 21:00:39 <GrueMaster> http://paste.ubuntu.com/538104/
Nov 29 21:01:01 <GrueMaster> I was able to get video on the new monitor with a fresh image prior to updating.
Nov 29 21:01:34 <GrueMaster> I am currently back to the 1280x1024 DVI monitor I used during Maverick test cycle.
Nov 29 21:09:08 <rsalveti> GrueMaster: weird, it finds the correct resolution from the edid (1280x1024@60Hz), then suspend, resume, probe edid again and gets the correct resolution one more time
Nov 29 21:09:23 <rsalveti> without any other message
Nov 29 21:10:08 <rsalveti> after a while it did suspend again, but probably because of lack of activity
Nov 29 21:10:16 <GrueMaster> I installed parse-edid and it looks correct reading /sys/device/omapdss/display0/edid.
Nov 29 21:10:49 <GrueMaster> I'm switching back to original kernel.
Nov 29 21:11:14 <rsalveti> ok
Nov 29 21:11:24 <rsalveti> could be a racing condition for some unknown reason
Nov 29 21:11:59 <GrueMaster> No problem with old kernel
Nov 29 21:12:26 <GrueMaster> And it was the only package I upgraded.
Nov 29 21:12:27 <rsalveti> try rebooting at least some 3 times, to see if it works every time
Nov 29 21:12:37 <rsalveti> and get the boot log too, if possible
Nov 29 21:12:39 <rsalveti> to compare
Nov 29 21:12:44 <GrueMaster> I did with the new kernel.
Nov 29 21:13:19 <GrueMaster> I'll have to mod the boot part to reenable the new kernel again.
Nov 29 21:30:58 <topfs2> rsalveti, if you have any questions regarding xbmc and I'm not here feel free to ping TheUni . I'll force him to idle here aswell ;)
Nov 29 21:32:20 <rsalveti> topfs2: np, thanks a lot
Nov 29 21:32:21 <TheUni> rsalveti: i do the business/consumer relations stuff for xbmc.. i've seen the blueprint and i'm quite interested. would love to have a chat.
Nov 29 21:32:36 <TheUni> if there's anything to chat about, that is :)
Nov 29 21:34:23 <rsalveti> :-)
Nov 29 21:38:11 <jo-erlend_> heh... On Ubuntu-devel today, there was an announcement of an IRC meeting regarding ARM... It sais Tuesday 2010-29-11 at 13:00 UTC. <-- Does that mean it has been held or that it will be held tomorrow?
Nov 29 21:38:53 <TheUni> rsalveti: out of curiosity, is Natty+1 the target?
Nov 29 21:39:23 <rsalveti> jo-erlend_: hehe, NCommander :-)
Nov 29 21:39:30 <rsalveti> it should be tomorrow
Nov 29 21:39:39 <jo-erlend_> rsalveti, NCommander? :)
Nov 29 21:39:42 <rsalveti> TheUni: we'd like to have a solution for natty
Nov 29 21:40:00 <rsalveti> jo-erlend_: he is the one who sent the announcement, probably
Nov 29 21:40:05 <TheUni> wow, ok
Nov 29 21:40:13 <jo-erlend_> oh, it's a nick. I get it. :)
Nov 29 21:40:20 <rsalveti> TheUni: but we're ok to change that for natty + 1
Nov 29 21:40:56 <TheUni> rsalveti: yea, for us to be an option, i'm afraid that's what it would have to be
Nov 29 21:41:12 <TheUni> though we should be in very good shape by then
Nov 29 21:41:58 <jo-erlend_> NCommander, it is quite impossible for me (or anyone else) to attend the ARM IRC meeting on Tuesday 2010-29-11 at 13:00 UTC. <-- Perhaps you could reschedule? :)
Nov 29 21:43:14 <rsalveti> TheUni: ok, we can probably push it to the repository, if it's not the default at least
Nov 29 21:43:23 <rsalveti> then for natty +1 that can change again
Nov 29 21:43:35 <TheUni> yea
Nov 29 21:43:46 <TheUni> we're working hard to target natty to get all the Ubuntu nits cleaned up
Nov 29 21:43:51 <GrueMaster> jo-erlend_: I believe persia is actively seeking a better time for the meeting.  You should also ping him.
Nov 29 21:44:37 <jo-erlend_> GrueMaster, well for me, any date that actually exists would be a better time. :)
Nov 29 21:44:43 <rsalveti> TheUni: got it, nice
Nov 29 21:45:18 <GrueMaster> jo-erlend_: Heh.  I see what you are referring to.  It is actually scheduled for 20101130.
Nov 29 21:45:35 <TheUni> rsalveti: so for Natty, we should be a good candidate for the repo, arm included. Then we could do focus on remaining needed changes for the default if interested
Nov 29 21:45:49 <rsalveti> TheUni: sure, that can work :-)
Nov 29 21:45:50 <GrueMaster> But we are looking to move it in the near future.
Nov 29 21:45:55 <TheUni> great
Nov 29 21:46:45 <NCommander> jo-erlend_: its being discussed int he meeting. I'm not very happy about that time myself, but its been that way for ages. The ARM meeting is what the Mobile meeting was (the name of the meeting was something of an artifact)
Nov 29 21:47:03 <TheUni> rsalveti: I'm subscribed to the blueprint (Cory Fields). Feel free to ping me. I'd like to make it a top priority for us, as it obviously would mean good things for us as well.
Nov 29 21:47:37 <jo-erlend_> NCommander, well. In your email, you said _Tuesday_ 29th. That's either today or tomorrow. Perhaps a new email would be in order, just to avoid confusion?
Nov 29 21:47:50 <NCommander> jo-erlend_: *groan*
Nov 29 21:48:03 <NCommander> I'll send a followup (its tomorrow in any case)
Nov 29 21:48:05 <rsalveti> TheUni: yeah, would be nice to have it working on arm nicely :-)
Nov 29 21:50:16 <TheUni> rsalveti: topfs2 can tell you more about the status. but we're currently working fine on beagle and a few other platforms, panda should be a much nicer target
Nov 29 21:50:39 <rsalveti> TheUni: yeah, that's what we're targeting
Nov 29 21:50:49 <TheUni> rsalveti: may i suggest a minimum/reference platform?
Nov 29 21:50:58 <rsalveti> TheUni: sure
Nov 29 21:50:59 <TheUni> ah, ok
Nov 29 21:51:19 <rsalveti> we're targeting panda because the hardware is nice, cheap, and we'll soon have the bamboo box around
Nov 29 21:51:36 <rsalveti> then panda can be easily used as a set-up box
Nov 29 21:51:37 <prpplague> rsalveti: hopefully around the 15th of jan
Nov 29 21:51:40 <TheUni> rsalveti: i mean.. i suggest that you specify your target/reference
Nov 29 21:51:44 <rsalveti> and can decode in full hd and etc
Nov 29 21:51:47 <TheUni> yup, same page then
Nov 29 21:51:53 <rsalveti> cool
Nov 29 21:51:56 <rsalveti> prpplague: nice :-)
Nov 29 21:52:29 <prpplague> rsalveti: i added a circuit on the ft2232 so you can have the ft2232 reset the pandaboard
Nov 29 21:52:40 <TheUni> rsalveti: problem we've had with arm is that it's such a segmented world. The main platforms we've seen so far have been beagle/tegra2/panda
Nov 29 21:53:15 <TheUni> beagle had cpu limitations, tegra2 was missing ion and involved intimate dealings with nvidia, panda seems real-world achievable. so we'll be using that as reference as well.
Nov 29 21:53:31 <jo-erlend_> IGEPv2 has been confirmed as working with the new kernel from linaro?
Nov 29 21:53:35 <TheUni> s/missing ion/missing neon/
Nov 29 21:53:36 <rsalveti> prpplague: nice
Nov 29 21:54:01 <jo-erlend_> I really like the pandaboard, except that it's too tall for me.
Nov 29 21:54:02 <rsalveti> TheUni: yeah, and panda is already around, working nicely with ubuntu
Nov 29 21:54:35 <TheUni> indeed
Nov 29 21:55:31 <jo-erlend_> I'm curious about the new marvell ARM server chips.
Nov 29 21:55:34 <topfs2> And I've compiled and run xbmc perfectly on panda
Nov 29 21:55:53 <topfs2> haven't tried any real resolution yet though but considering the GPU it should probably do 1080p
Nov 29 21:56:03 <topfs2> Atleast it would be possible to achieve in the near future
Nov 29 21:56:12 <topfs2> (our gui is rather hefty to render)
Nov 29 21:56:44 <prpplague> jo-erlend_: headers can easily be desoldered on the board
Nov 29 21:57:17 <prpplague> jo-erlend_: http://www.elinux.org/Panda_Bamboo
Nov 29 21:58:44 <topfs2> for a second there I thoght you had gone for bamboo for real
Nov 29 22:42:49 <tmzt_g2root> what is the 2d netbook package on maverick?
Nov 29 22:43:18 <tmzt_g2root> ubuntu-netbook and ubuntu-netbook-efl-default-settings ?
Nov 29 23:57:06 <jacquesdupontd> sorry i was testing my phone 3g unlimited tethering under ubuntu
Nov 30 01:50:10 <Sp0tter> what is a good tablet for running ubuntu on?
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