**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 08 02:59:57 2011 Feb 08 11:10:40 * janimo is a bit irked by OMAP3 being called omap while OMAP4 omap4 Feb 08 11:11:08 janimo, thats because the plan is to have only one omap flavour at some point Feb 08 11:11:19 for all omaps Feb 08 11:14:57 one OMAP flavour to rule them all, one kernel to find them, one OMAP flavour to bring them all and in mainline bind them Feb 08 11:16:33 well, its likely that by the time we have -oamp for 3 and 4 we will have a new -omap5 flavour :) Feb 08 11:16:51 but yeah, originally that was the plan Feb 08 11:17:19 ogra: unless TI will start from -omap not -omap5 Feb 08 11:17:31 unlikely Feb 08 11:17:54 there will always be a patchset before it goes upstream Feb 08 11:18:19 might be smaller for omap5 but you will still have new code that doesnt get immediately upstream Feb 08 11:18:43 This should be less and less, now that we have teams focused on upstreaming Feb 08 11:18:49 indeed Feb 08 11:19:17 but you will always have new HW that will need basic development before you can push upstream Feb 08 11:19:30 Ideally upstream kernel will boot on omap5 when the silicon is there, at least :) Feb 08 11:19:38 thats the nature of things Feb 08 11:20:20 ideally that timeframe is very short Feb 08 11:46:15 Hello, Feb 08 11:47:53 can anybody help me, to run an Logitech WebCam on an GumStix (ARM cortex A8 - OMAP 3503) Feb 08 11:48:13 whats the problem ? Feb 08 11:48:25 the ubuntu kernel should have everything you need Feb 08 11:48:41 but it don't Feb 08 11:48:53 its ubuntu - lucid - 10.4 - lxde Feb 08 11:49:07 oh, 10.04 Feb 08 11:49:14 I build it with rootstock Feb 08 11:49:45 and your kernel comes from ?? Feb 08 11:51:52 rootstock does everything, Feb 08 11:52:32 Tims_: lsusb, dmesg please Feb 08 11:52:33 it doesnt install a kernel if you dont define one Feb 08 11:52:46 the order was: ‘sudo rootstock -f “Gumstix” -l “gumstix” -p “overo” -n “Gumstix Overo Ubuntu” -s lxde,gdm,openssh-server,x11vnc -t “Europe/Berlin” –serial ttyS2 -d lucid –locale de_DE.UTF-8' Feb 08 11:52:59 that will only roll a rootfs Feb 08 11:53:11 wont install a kernel or create an initrd Feb 08 11:53:28 http://pastebin.de/14695 Feb 08 11:53:28 your kernel must come from somewhere else (NAND boot probably) Feb 08 11:54:29 http://pastebin.de/14700 Feb 08 11:54:53 i work on a Gumstix, Feb 08 11:55:04 overo, maybe it is usefull Feb 08 11:56:12 ah sorry, of course i get the kernel, i was a little bit blind :D Feb 08 11:56:14 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/211887/Ubuntu/uImage-2.6.34-r88-overo.bin Feb 08 11:57:19 modprobe uvcvideo Feb 08 11:57:58 "FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.34/modules.dep: No such file or directory Feb 08 11:58:07 shouldnt be necessary if his kernel is proper Feb 08 11:58:17 which it obviously isnt Feb 08 11:58:19 hrw: ogra: we've been through all this in #ubuntu-de already. Feb 08 11:58:36 his kernel is whacked, but he has no clue how to update or bake a new one. Feb 08 11:58:36 ah Feb 08 11:58:59 * LetoThe2nd has repeatedly told him to read documentation. Feb 08 11:59:18 is there probably a modules tarball at the dropbox location you could extract to the rootfs ? Feb 08 11:59:53 if not, you need to roll your own kernel Feb 08 12:01:08 and once again: http://wiki.gumstix.org/index.php?title=Kernel_Reconfiguration Feb 08 12:01:09 (i'm not sure how well gumstix is supported by mavericks kernel, but might b worth a try) Feb 08 12:02:09 i can't look into the dropbox Feb 08 12:03:07 Where can I find a "good" kernel config for omap3 for maverick? I just need the config file to compare my settings against Feb 08 12:03:40 sveinse, in the linux-image-omap3 package Feb 08 12:04:41 LetoThe2nd, i can't find this link in #ubuntu-de log, but thanks Feb 08 12:05:50 Tims_: you can't find it because i've never mentioned so far. by "go read documentation" i though it would also include "go and search it first". i sincerely apologize for that misunderstanding. Feb 08 12:06:46 ogra, thanks. Name being linux-image-omap though Feb 08 12:06:58 oh, yeah Feb 08 12:07:18 though that might only be the meta, check the deps Feb 08 12:07:44 @LetoThe2nd, no problem Feb 08 12:08:03 * LetoThe2nd hands out a few spare sarcasm detectors. Feb 08 12:10:41 orga, thanks Feb 08 13:14:05 persia: ping Feb 08 15:53:19 GrueMaster, ugh, whats all that assigning to ubuntu-armel ? Feb 08 15:53:52 Open bugs that need to be assigned to the team, but not necessarily an individual. Feb 08 15:54:05 why ? Feb 08 15:54:18 where is the change in our bug policy documented ? Feb 08 15:54:34 we never assigned the team, only individuals Feb 08 16:00:49 marjo was concerned yesterday about the armel bugs that weren't assigned to anyone. I'm just trying to assign them to the team so they are on our radar (and proper bug report). I am also weeding out the bugs that we don't care about, so that I can go back and say "not our problem". Feb 08 16:03:09 these should better be assigned to individuals Feb 08 16:03:13 Why is lool reassigning bug 705689 from NCommander to janimo? Feb 08 16:03:14 Launchpad bug 705689 in qt4-x11 "QT applications crash with segfault error on armel when QT is built with gcc 4.5 on natty" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/705689 Feb 08 16:03:40 GrueMaster, possibly because I touched it last? No idea Feb 08 16:03:53 anyway we're going to decide how to fix this porperly together Feb 08 16:03:57 I thought a good first step would be to assign these bugs to our team, then we can take individual ownership from there. Feb 08 16:04:05 because janimo had a workaround for using gcc 4.5 Feb 08 16:04:09 so not sure that assignment means much in this particular case. Feb 08 16:04:27 instead of just dumping 4.4 in place Feb 08 16:04:44 ogra, I'd rather wait a bit and see if gcc can be fixed so we don;t need another workaround upload (Especially if the NCommander Feb 08 16:04:56 s's latest one gives us working images) Feb 08 16:05:00 GrueMaster, i'd rather see us doing a dedicated bug triage day with the whole team and see that we can get them all assigned properly Feb 08 16:05:23 GrueMaster, also many are linaro (thumb2 porting) and need to be tagged for the new porting querue Feb 08 16:05:26 Works for me, assuming the bugs actually get worked on. Feb 08 16:05:27 *queue Feb 08 16:05:43 and not be assigned to us at all Feb 08 16:05:49 The porting bugs I am leaving alone. Feb 08 16:05:59 ogra, I see a few of the porting to Thumb2 are oboslete. I mean thumb2 is enabled in most packages. There are other issues -multicore for ex Feb 08 16:06:09 but that is mislabeled as a Thumb2 porting issue Feb 08 16:06:27 janimo, well, we have to decide if we want to work on these or give them to linaro Feb 08 16:06:35 One of the issues is that no one has been closing bug reports when they get fixed. Feb 08 16:06:45 thumb2 porting is usually linaro nowadays Feb 08 16:06:49 GrueMaster, janimo: I commented earlier that it seemed to me the bug should be open since it's not fixed, just worked around; I've reopened it since janimo was active on it anyway, and because the assignee was NCommander but janimo was actually the one working on it, I've changed the assignee to janimo Feb 08 16:06:54 Hope that makes sense Feb 08 16:06:58 the tag you see is likel old Feb 08 16:07:01 *likely Feb 08 16:07:20 lool, ok,. actually we were both working on it, just on different aspects, but I agree it is still an open bug Feb 08 16:07:21 lool: Both have been actively working on it in unison. Feb 08 16:07:24 as far as gcc is concerned Feb 08 16:07:31 lool, thats why i re-did the description a bit Feb 08 16:08:20 ogra, the FTBFS ones I think we can manage, thre toolchain bugs we must give to linaro Feb 08 16:08:22 From the comments on the bug, NCommander seemed to be working on gcc-4.4 vs 4.5 and janimo on fixing the cpp code; I am happy if you folks fix the assignee either way Feb 08 16:08:40 really no need to reassign randomly ... the prob here is that we miss a "workaround applied tag, needs revisiting" Feb 08 16:09:27 lool, both workarounds are done in QT while the bug is a gcc bug Feb 08 16:09:35 which still has the task open Feb 08 16:10:31 ogra: I am not sure why you frame this as "randomly"; I think I explained how I picked it; I tried to make the best guess Feb 08 16:11:15 sure, but one is uploaded, the other isnt, neither fixes the root cause, bug is being worked on by both Feb 08 16:11:56 janimo, right, thats what i mean Feb 08 16:30:34 rsalveti, ogra, does the version of x-loader/u-boot used get exposed somehwre in linux while booted and running> Feb 08 16:30:34 ? Feb 08 16:31:26 janimo: just at the first partition Feb 08 16:31:27 atm Feb 08 16:31:41 you can install the packages if you want, but it's not installed by default Feb 08 16:32:03 and the version you can check probably by just booting the board Feb 08 16:36:35 rsalveti, yes, I know about t6hose, but was wondering if they get passed to linux in some param and mnaybe readable in proc Feb 08 16:36:50 just out of curiosioty, it is not of much use Feb 08 16:37:07 janimo: not something they pass to linux Feb 08 16:39:54 would be real easy to add to u-boot/kernel though Feb 08 16:50:48 rsalveti, I copied over the MLO and u-boot.bin from the new natty packages, and while the panda boots, there's no output on serial as it used to, this is why I wanted to see if I can read the version strings elsewhere Feb 08 16:52:09 janimo: no output at all or just after loading the kernel? Feb 08 16:52:16 rsalveti, at all Feb 08 16:52:28 before I saw x-loader print stuff Feb 08 16:52:34 weird Feb 08 16:52:38 but it boots ? Feb 08 16:52:50 ogra, it booted Feb 08 16:52:56 very very weird :) Feb 08 16:53:02 so could be a problem with your serial connection Feb 08 16:53:03 I rebooted adn and now I still can;t ssh Feb 08 16:53:08 so maybe it does not boot all the time Feb 08 16:53:13 115200 is fixed right? Feb 08 16:53:21 not booting at all would be kind of "ok" Feb 08 16:53:23 should be Feb 08 16:53:34 but booting and not getting you anything is weird Feb 08 16:53:40 rsalveti, I agree Feb 08 16:53:53 * janimo takes out the SD card to inspect in the laptop Feb 08 16:54:07 115200n8 *should* be a default Feb 08 16:54:24 no guarantee that didnt change though Feb 08 16:54:29 I did not touch boot.scr, only copied over two new files Feb 08 16:55:04 didn't change Feb 08 16:55:19 so it seems that you're not even loading the x-loader correctly Feb 08 16:55:24 you can easily check by the panda leds Feb 08 16:55:36 once u-boot is loaded both leds should blink Feb 08 16:55:46 and then stays on until the kernel gets control of them Feb 08 16:57:06 I have one of the leds blinking more often Feb 08 16:57:11 but sometimes they alternates Feb 08 16:57:15 not on permanently though Feb 08 16:57:29 * janimo resets Feb 08 16:57:30 one is SD, one is heartbeat Feb 08 16:57:37 it could be a faulty SD card Feb 08 16:57:50 I had issues with it's seconds root partition and was only using it for booting Feb 08 16:58:18 ogra, the one further away fro the SD slot blinks periodcally Feb 08 16:58:34 actually long pause, blink short pause blink, then repeat Feb 08 16:59:17 time for another SD card Feb 08 17:55:26 i need help an error that i get installing DarwinSS in qemu or arm7 device? got a min anyone? Feb 08 17:57:44 darwin ? Feb 08 17:57:57 Darwin streaming server Feb 08 17:57:59 I... Feb 08 17:58:24 no idea about that Feb 08 17:59:04 it ibstalles fine in normal envirement however in chroot envirement i get these errors...... Feb 08 17:59:07 ./Install: line 408: /usr/local/bin/qtpasswd: No such file or directory Feb 08 17:59:07 ./Install: line 416: /usr/local/bin/qtpasswd: No such file or directory Feb 08 17:59:24 cp: cannot stat `DarwinStreamingServer': No such file or directory Feb 08 17:59:24 copying PlaylistBroadcaster to /usr/local/bin/PlaylistBroadcaster Feb 08 17:59:24 cp: cannot stat `PlaylistBroadcaster': No such file or directory Feb 08 17:59:24 copying MP3Broadcaster to /usr/local/bin/MP3Broadcaster Feb 08 17:59:24 cp: omitting directory `MP3Broadcaster' Feb 08 17:59:24 copying qtpasswd to /usr/local/bin/qtpasswd Feb 08 17:59:29 and such..... Feb 08 18:00:38 did you try to find a darwin related IRC channel ? Feb 08 18:00:47 none Feb 08 18:01:10 i thought maybe permissions of some sort because of the chroot env. Feb 08 18:01:30 im always in root i think Feb 08 18:11:47 .....................help hrw Feb 09 02:02:21 if anyone has feedback on rev2 of the trainer board, please post at http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoard_Trainer **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Feb 09 02:59:57 2011