**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Feb 14 02:59:57 2011 Feb 14 04:36:29 i'm trying to get out audio to come out of the beagle Feb 14 04:36:45 i tested powered speakers on the same file on a fresh mplayer install on my laptop and it was fine Feb 14 04:36:58 i used the speakers on the bb Feb 14 04:37:17 running the same file and mplayer but there's no sound Feb 14 04:37:25 what are some of the things i can check to see what's wrong? Feb 14 04:37:48 btw mplayer acts the exact same it looks like it's playing i just can't hear anything Feb 14 08:24:21 morning Feb 14 08:35:35 hrw, You had a flash-kernel fix for the efikas: have you tested that with linux-linaro-imx51? Does it work? Has it been applied to natty? Feb 14 08:49:52 persia: merging flash-kernel is still on ogra's todolist Feb 14 08:50:11 persia: and I did not tested it with other kernels then own ones (or genesi one) Feb 14 08:51:03 Where is your branch/bug? Feb 14 08:51:33 bug 671027 Feb 14 08:51:35 Launchpad bug 671027 in flash-kernel "Add Efika MX Smartbook/Smarttop support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/671027 Feb 14 08:57:06 Thanks. Feb 14 08:57:23 What is expected to create /boot/boot.script? Feb 14 08:58:01 Also, this looks like it wouldn't work for a bare install (where /boot/uImage and /boot/uInitrd don't exist yet) Feb 14 08:58:55 hrw: i see you're adding efikamx support in your patch as well; did you test that successfully? Feb 14 09:00:17 lool: no, but genesi version had same code for both Feb 14 09:00:37 lool: it is cleaned version of their code Feb 14 09:00:41 Ok Feb 14 09:01:37 persia: I had /boot/boot.script on my system, similar one I have on panda/ubuntu. where from it came? no idea Feb 14 09:02:11 persia: and this code is not perfect but works for me. there were no comments on improving code anyway Feb 14 09:02:16 We'll need something to create it, if we expect it to be there. Obviously, if it's already there, fine, but consider the case where someone wants to completely reinstall. Feb 14 09:02:39 Also, why comment out check_subarch? Feb 14 09:02:47 * persia is currently trying to provide comments on code Feb 14 09:03:08 persia: let me boot efika to check at original code Feb 14 09:03:46 Thanks. If you're busy with something else, feel free to tell me to ask about this another time :) Feb 14 09:04:18 persia: add comments to the bug - this will maybe take genesi guys to react too Feb 14 09:04:36 *** /dev/sda2 will be checked for errors at next reboot *** Feb 14 09:04:51 I need to track down script which says that and kill it Feb 14 09:07:03 persia: looks like 'check_subarch' checks does machine runs proper flavour of debian/ubuntu kernel. if this is right then it has no use on efika so far as it runs only unofficial kernels (at least with ubuntu) Feb 14 09:07:57 whole flash-kernel script is full of copy/paste code ;( Feb 14 09:09:46 efikamx_flash_kernel() is more or less based on code for dove Feb 14 09:13:59 hrw, The efika can boot with linux-linaro-imx51, so we should expect that. That's perfectly official. Feb 14 09:23:30 lool, hrw: would you mind attaching /proc/cpu for each of the MX and Sb to bug #718615? Needs samples to match against the kernel selector. Thanks! Feb 14 09:23:31 Launchpad bug 718615 in base-installer "Please add support for linux-linaro-imx51 on efika MX and efika SB" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/718615 Feb 14 09:29:52 persia: I'm not a fan of subarch detection; we're trying to build a common kernel with support for more than one SoC, so uname -r wont mean much anymore Feb 14 09:30:18 persia: I have efikasb only Feb 14 09:30:55 added Feb 14 09:31:11 persia: cpuinfo > will add when I get the chance to boot it Feb 14 09:31:19 persia: efikamx can be taken from flash-kernel patch ;d Feb 14 09:31:39 hrw, I need the *complete* cpuinfo, for the base-installer test suite. Feb 14 09:31:52 lool: subarch is used in many places other then just scripts like flash-kernel Feb 14 09:31:55 lool, Thanks. no huge rush. Feb 14 09:32:03 persia: mkey Feb 14 09:32:33 I suspect that the MX looks almost identical to the SB, but want to be careful so that I don't break MX folks. Feb 14 09:32:46 (especially because right now, MX works and SB doesn't, with the in-archive kernel) Feb 14 09:33:29 define 'works' probably Feb 14 09:36:21 * hrw -> breakfast Feb 14 09:38:01 The information I have is that linaro-linux-imx51 boots successfully on the MX. I'm following upstream, and will prepare a queue of other things to get merged just after the update to 2.6.38-rc5, which *should* support SB as well. Feb 14 09:57:21 hrw: Where is it used? Feb 14 09:57:39 hrw: There is another subarch concept in d-i, which I believe is computed differently (from cpuinfo, not uname -r) Feb 14 10:02:57 ok Feb 14 12:12:59 persia: looks like you got all info for bug 718615 now ;) Feb 14 12:13:00 Launchpad bug 718615 in base-installer "Please add support for linux-linaro-imx51 on efika MX and efika SB" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/718615 Feb 14 12:13:23 Cool. Thanks. Feb 14 12:14:07 lool, hrw got steev to submit the cpuinfo: no need for you to hunt it up later. Feb 14 12:14:36 steev has to2 and to3 efikamx so extra info were given too Feb 14 12:21:38 persia: thanks Feb 14 12:28:20 you would need to extend archdetect to make use of the actual revision info, currently all detection is based on the Hardware: line Feb 14 12:30:00 g'day persia you are around quite late today Feb 14 12:30:32 davidm, DMB meeting today. Feb 14 12:32:02 ogra, I'm going to pretend to not care, unless you see some reason why it's important to distinguish the T02 from T03 devices. Feb 14 12:32:19 i dont think it is Feb 14 12:32:38 just noted that the different cpuinfos wont gain you much there Feb 14 12:33:09 the only difference is neon in to3 and noneon in to2 - but thats handled by kernel to not give neon cpuflag for to2 Feb 14 12:35:10 Anyway, I'll toss them into the test cases. Doesn't matter. Feb 14 12:35:22 does anyone have a quick link to how to fix the no audio issue for beagleboard xms? Feb 14 12:40:17 xerebz, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~beagleboard-kernel/+junk/2.6-stable/view/head:/patches/beagle/0001-xM-audio-fix-from-Ashok.patch seems to work for me.. Feb 14 12:43:13 Has that been proposed for the Ubuntu kernel? Feb 14 17:04:54 hi everybody.... Feb 14 17:05:23 where I download the arm toolchain?? Feb 14 17:06:48 I have the 3.3.2 version... but I need the 4.1 version Feb 14 17:11:12 JYRO: which ubuntu ver you are using? Feb 14 17:12:26 one moment please while I see that Feb 14 17:14:40 jaunty, and 2.6.28.19 kernel Feb 14 17:20:52 sorry, there are cross toolchains for lucid and newer only Feb 14 17:21:31 really? :( Feb 14 17:22:11 ok.. in my laptop I have a 10.10 ubuntu version..... Feb 14 17:22:29 How I can install the arm toolchain? Feb 14 17:22:54 I have my laptop at my side Feb 14 17:23:02 on 10.10: apt-get install gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi Feb 14 17:23:08 see the channel topic Feb 14 17:23:13 there is a link Feb 14 17:23:22 substiture gcc with g++ gobjc gfortran if want other langs Feb 14 17:24:25 this install get the utilbins too? Feb 14 17:24:47 which utilbins? Feb 14 17:26:06 I need to compile a kernel for a ARM target.... just I need the toolchain? Feb 14 17:27:28 you may need uboot-mkimage package too Feb 14 17:27:47 JYRO: if all you need is just a toolchain, you can try getting the codesourcery packages Feb 14 17:28:30 JYRO: http://omapedia.org/wiki/Android:_Configuring_the_Host_PC#ARM_Cross_Compiler Feb 14 17:29:13 prpplague: since 10.10 ubuntu contains cross toolchain Feb 14 17:29:28 hrw: ahh Feb 14 17:29:54 prpplague: took me some time to make them ;D Feb 14 17:30:09 I'm using a M-501 development kit.... in this moment I learn how to compile a kernel for a target.... then I would try probe a example module .... Feb 14 17:33:12 hrw... I try use the apt-get command and the system said that it can't found the gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi packet Feb 14 17:37:06 hrw... I'm sorry... but my ubuntu version is karmic .... Feb 14 17:37:39 is it the reason why I can't install the arm toolchain? Feb 14 17:38:01 like I said - you need at least 10.04 (lucid) Feb 14 17:38:21 I'm sorry for that.... Feb 14 17:39:56 no need to Feb 14 17:40:43 hrw another question... I find this page Feb 14 17:40:45 http://www.gnuarm.com/ Feb 14 17:41:13 can I install this toolchain?? Feb 14 17:41:39 better go to http://emdebian.org or to code sourcery labs Feb 14 17:41:55 I would avoid anything under gcc 4.3.3 Feb 14 17:42:01 which is old too Feb 14 17:42:38 who is the last gcc version?? Feb 14 17:42:59 4.5.2 Feb 14 17:43:19 * hrw ends a day Feb 14 17:43:46 hrw... a last question... Feb 14 17:43:51 go Feb 14 17:44:56 can I install debian packets in ubuntu?? I'm sorry for this question, but I newbie :$ Feb 14 17:45:14 I would not suggest it for a newbie. Feb 14 17:47:00 can I crash my system if I can't install it correctly?? Feb 14 17:48:42 :$ Feb 14 18:10:08 someone knows how I can get the public key from http://emdebian.org?? Feb 14 18:15:06 JYRO: i guess you're here... and therefore, i suggest to start reading - at the top. Feb 14 18:15:09 http://www.emdebian.org/crosstools.html Feb 14 18:15:28 JYRO: there's a topic "secure apt"... Feb 14 18:16:42 LetoThe2nd... thanks for that... I read this link now Feb 14 18:18:02 JYRO: i've seen that the documentation for your specific development board is outdated and rather crappy... but in general, reading is a _very_ good idea if you want to get into arm/embedded/kernel stuff :-) Feb 14 18:19:32 JYRO: BTW - your target is not able to run ubuntu, if that's what you're heading for. Feb 14 18:20:20 LetoThe2nd... I tell you that I need.... Feb 14 18:21:34 I have a M-501 target, is a development kit for a ARM91 SoC.... Feb 14 18:21:56 JYRO: i know. you told us, and i looked it up. Feb 14 18:22:12 ok... :$ Feb 14 18:23:26 in this machine... I have the 3.3.2 version for arm-linux toolchain.... that's very old.... Feb 14 18:23:41 JYRO: and to get you nomenclature right: it's not an "arm91" development kit, it an "arm9" platform, and in that one in the at91 family incarnation myde by atmel. Feb 14 18:23:55 JYRO: i know, you told us. Feb 14 18:24:41 ok LetoThe2nd... thanks Feb 14 18:24:53 JYRO: but because you are asking in the #ubuntu-arm channel, there is the possibility that you might be aiming to run ubuntu on that target. and that is not possible. Feb 14 18:26:38 I know it, I don't need to run ubuntu in this target... just I need to run the 2.6 kernel linux Feb 14 18:27:04 am I in the wrong place? Feb 14 18:28:04 How is the natty-server-armel+dove.img even building? I thought the dove kernel was removed from natty? Feb 14 18:29:10 JYRO: Unfortunately, yes. This channel is specifically for developers discussing current ubuntu builds on current arm hardware. Feb 14 18:29:13 JYRO: a bit, yes :-) it's not much of a problem, but mainly this channel is about running ubuntu on arms, not about making arms work using ubuntu as the development platform. Feb 14 18:29:58 Try #debian-arm on OFTC network. Feb 14 18:30:00 JYRO: you maybe want to checkout elinux.org and see if they have an IRC channel. or if you have decided which toolchain to use, head for their channel. Feb 14 18:31:39 JYRO: specifically: http://elinux.org/Toolchains Feb 14 18:31:59 LetoThe2nd: thank you very much.... Feb 14 18:32:13 GrueMaster: thank you too! Feb 14 18:36:38 it's too late for me .... I'm going for my house now...... thanks for all!! Feb 14 19:16:06 hey is there any updated info on ubuntu build for the ac100? Feb 14 20:10:14 prpplague, there is a guy in the #ac100 channel hacking on getting the overlay filesystem from linux4tegra to work on it, beyond that not much, without nvidias help it will always be hackish and unstable Feb 14 20:10:40 ogra: ahh Feb 14 20:11:03 look for "phh" in the channel if you want more details Feb 14 20:11:13 i dont touch the L4T crap Feb 14 20:11:19 ogra: i was just curious Feb 14 20:11:23 k Feb 14 20:11:24 :) Feb 14 20:11:43 ogra: there were some conversation threads on some of the hardware channels about doing open source laptop/netbook design Feb 14 20:12:04 heh, i doubt nvidia will ever get to that Feb 14 20:12:17 they are nvidia after all Feb 14 20:12:32 ogra: sorry, the conversation turned to asking if ubuntu was available for any arm based netbook Feb 14 20:12:44 ah, ok Feb 14 20:13:00 yes, indeed, the image is publically available Feb 14 20:13:24 ahh dandy Feb 14 20:13:45 * prpplague would love to do a omap4 netbook if only he could get the chips Feb 14 20:13:53 either in my plain version that doesnt use any nvidia bits and thus has no features or in phh's version that has all features but is neither upgradeable nor stable Feb 14 20:14:19 i heard it slowly gets better wrt chips Feb 14 20:14:40 ogra: indeed Feb 14 21:05:43 * armin76 throws l4t at ogra Feb 14 21:06:12 prpplague: you can also use gentoo :D there's some ppl on #ac100 using gentoo as well :D Feb 14 21:07:00 But who (in their right mind) would use gentoo? :P Feb 14 21:07:03 Feb 14 21:07:21 GrueMaster: i'm pretty sure your dreams are powered by gentoo :P Feb 14 21:07:24 armin76: hehe indeed Feb 14 21:07:51 who doesn't like nice gentoo penguins? :( Feb 14 21:08:13 Due to international laws, I can not state publicly what powers my dreams. Feb 14 21:51:05 hello i've been given a bug patch that consists of a uimage files and a modules.tar.gz how can i apply this patch? Feb 14 23:47:45 boinmg Feb 15 02:02:19 is there some timeout to the console? i'm leaving an apt-get installing and after a couple minutes of being idle, the monitor turns off and it seems like the install is halted until you move the mouse.. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Feb 15 02:59:56 2011