**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 07 02:59:57 2011 Mar 07 05:58:39 Think I can fully install Ubuntu on the Nook Color with this processor ARM Cortex A8-based Ti OMAP 3621? Instead of that stupid Ubuntu ARM over VNC on Android trick? Mar 07 09:57:47 can someone copy me bootcmd from normal ubuntu uboot for panda/beagle? Mar 07 10:27:37 ~summon ogra Mar 07 10:29:57 * ogra waves Mar 07 10:30:11 http://pastebin.com/YXWdZTfe - lovely hang Mar 07 10:30:19 ubuntu mlo + uboot + .35 kernel Mar 07 10:30:26 same with linaro mlo (1.44) Mar 07 10:30:38 worked with .37-linaro kernel Mar 07 10:31:14 and my board shutdowns when ubuntu/xload + ubuntu/uboot + linaro.37 are used Mar 07 10:31:35 weird Mar 07 10:31:42 we dont have such probs Mar 07 10:32:27 I will dig other psu to compare Mar 07 10:32:40 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/releases/natty/alpha-3/ Mar 07 10:32:53 try with this image, it definitely worked on all our boards Mar 07 10:33:10 .35 kernel, and the x-loader and u-boot from natty Mar 07 10:33:28 afaik we are using all the same x-loader and u-boot linaro packages Mar 07 10:33:40 will check Mar 07 10:34:15 i have never seen such an x-loader hangs message that late in the boot Mar 07 10:34:55 if image will fail to boot I will start to send more curses^Wcomplains in TI direction Mar 07 10:35:03 only if the FAT wasnt ok but then usually before the kernel gets exectuted Mar 07 10:35:18 fsck passed Mar 07 10:35:24 doesnt matter Mar 07 10:37:23 x-loader-omap4-panda and u-boot-linaro-omap4-panda are the binary packages we currently use in ubuntu Mar 07 10:45:14 outer_flush_range will flush L1 and L2 or only L2? =) Mar 07 10:50:28 hi, has anyone got s-video working correctly on the beagleboard xM? Mar 07 10:50:47 it kinda works with the natty alpha-2 image Mar 07 10:50:50 i think GrueMaster wanted to test it once Mar 07 10:51:06 but you have to wait until he gets up (US Pacific TZ) Mar 07 10:51:28 however the resolution is not correct (larger than 640x480) and the left part is off-screen Mar 07 10:52:13 twaeaking the timings doesn't work. only the predefined "ntsc" and "pal" are accepted Mar 07 10:52:21 everything else -> invalid argument Mar 07 10:54:15 so far so good - booting Mar 07 10:54:23 with what files ? Mar 07 10:54:34 and what did you do to get there ? Mar 07 10:55:09 orga: are u talking to me? Mar 07 10:55:21 no to hrw Mar 07 10:55:26 ok Mar 07 10:55:48 i have no svideo around to even test so i cant tell much about it Mar 07 10:56:46 ogra: alpha3 image Mar 07 10:56:53 ah, k Mar 07 10:56:57 intresting Mar 07 10:57:15 ogra: booted to language selector and have to findout where my usb devices are Mar 07 10:57:16 if you used the same packages it can only be your formatting Mar 07 10:57:58 so linaro-image-tools Mar 07 10:58:42 right, likely a wrong formatting of the vfat Mar 07 10:58:56 time to report bugs against installer? Mar 07 10:59:33 which installer ? Mar 07 10:59:41 l-i-t ? Mar 07 10:59:50 oem-setup or how ubuntu installer is named Mar 07 10:59:57 hmm, why ? Mar 07 11:01:27 keyboard selector lacks Polish chars in country/layout lists Mar 07 11:01:48 "Po?udniowoafryka?ski" or "Pakista?ski" Mar 07 11:02:24 font has "ł ń" characters cause they are used in other places Mar 07 11:02:33 hmm, intresting Mar 07 11:04:19 " S-video resolution is 720x574 (pal) or 720x482 (ntsc). The edges of that Mar 07 11:04:20 area are usually not shown by the TVs. To get a framebuffer that is Mar 07 11:04:23 fully visible, you need to resize and move the overlay." Mar 07 11:04:32 ah! didn#t know that.. Mar 07 11:05:02 http://42.pl/u/2z8N Mar 07 11:05:08 ogra: http://42.pl/u/2z8N Mar 07 11:07:19 intresting Mar 07 11:07:41 they dont wear bras Mar 07 11:07:45 :P Mar 07 11:08:01 oO( erm... what? ) Mar 07 11:08:19 the pic hrw linked to Mar 07 11:08:57 gnah. that one again. Mar 07 11:12:42 nice thing is that installation does not require mouse Mar 07 11:13:03 desktop is unusable without it Mar 07 11:14:09 yeah, there is a bug open for unity-2d accessibility Mar 07 11:14:29 you can select classic gnome at the login manager though Mar 07 11:14:36 that should be usable by kbd Mar 07 11:14:56 cyanish framebuffer works Mar 07 11:15:04 indeed Mar 07 11:15:21 * ogra wonders whern someone will add fi fix for the color offset Mar 07 11:16:02 ogra: there are rumours that 2.6.66 'ivil edition' will have it Mar 07 11:16:53 should really not be to hard to manipulate the rgb defaults Mar 07 11:18:16 your font stuff is intresting, seems to only affect the selection list, all other parts of the app have the right encoding Mar 07 11:18:30 exactly Mar 07 11:18:37 #ubuntu-installer exists? Mar 07 11:18:40 yep Mar 07 11:18:49 talk to ev Mar 07 11:19:46 thx Mar 07 11:37:28 installation works w/o mouse EXCEPT time zone setting Mar 07 12:17:11 orga: ping Mar 07 12:17:15 ogra: ping Mar 07 12:17:30 ogra, meet ppisati ... Mar 07 12:18:05 ogra, is going to be doing some arm work on the kernel team Mar 07 12:35:28 looks like ogra is hiding from him Mar 07 12:41:29 ppisati, apw, awesome Mar 07 12:41:30 !! Mar 07 12:42:17 janimo, whats that about your NEON patch to Qt ? Mar 07 12:46:47 ogra: Hi! i just got a mvl-dove board, do you know where i can find an image for it? Mar 07 12:48:25 ogra, FTBFS fix, some files were not properly passed -mfpu=neon so gcc bailed Mar 07 12:48:37 needed a change to gui.pro in the sources Mar 07 12:48:42 I'll update the bugreport Mar 07 12:49:00 janimo, i see that, but i would know about the implications Mar 07 12:49:18 * janimo is annoyed by whatver changed lately in natty that fails to highlight xchat pings Mar 07 12:49:32 ogra, we'll see the implications once it builds I guess Mar 07 12:49:43 are there now *any* files in the archive that have NEON enabled in a hardcoded way ? Mar 07 12:49:51 there are a few files built with neon options Mar 07 12:49:57 the rest of Qt without Mar 07 12:50:05 thats not acceptable Mar 07 12:50:12 so hopefully only when those are enabled at runtime will run Mar 07 12:50:31 I looked over the bugreport comments and am not 100% sure I understand everything Mar 07 12:50:41 all NEON paths in code need to be runtime switched or off by default Mar 07 12:50:43 however my patch so far is not assuming it fixes neon Mar 07 12:50:47 just fixes the build Mar 07 12:51:00 then we see if neon runtime detection works and fix it if it does not Mar 07 12:51:29 well, -mfpu=neon will enable it hardcoded for these files Mar 07 12:51:31 ogra, I believe that is what Qt does but have not checked. A few files which are built with neon should only be used when neon is detected Mar 07 12:51:42 ogra, right, but those function will not be called all the time Mar 07 12:51:48 k Mar 07 12:51:52 lets test then Mar 07 12:52:01 otherwise there is not neon at all if we do not build at least some functions with it Mar 07 12:52:06 i guess i need to upgrade my ac100 to natty this week :( Mar 07 12:52:42 ppisati, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/releases/maverick/release/ was the last release we built for dove (not sure how well that image works though, you might be better off with the lucid one) Mar 07 12:53:21 ogra I also took out gnome-panel from u-2d deps, hopefully it wil not be included on the image soon Mar 07 12:53:30 as it is not used Mar 07 12:53:37 it is used Mar 07 12:53:39 by gdm Mar 07 12:53:48 I don;t think it is Mar 07 12:53:55 if so it will be pulled in by gdm then Mar 07 12:54:04 gdm uses a cut down gnome standard session in the greeter Mar 07 12:54:15 I have not seen anything resembling the gnome-panel in gdm login screens Mar 07 12:54:26 just shutdown/reboot menu but that is different Mar 07 12:54:32 the panel at the bottom is gnome-panel afaik Mar 07 12:55:21 in any case we need gnome-panel for the classic session, if all deps are removed i need to seed it Mar 07 12:55:38 ogra, we also have the classis session on the image?? Mar 07 12:55:44 sure Mar 07 12:55:44 I thiught unity and unity-2d is all Mar 07 12:55:47 no Mar 07 12:55:48 oh boy Mar 07 12:56:06 we have a minimal classic session as -desktop does Mar 07 12:56:23 the whole kitchen sink. So the chances of getting a mixed up nonfucntional environment like now compiz crashing+gnome classic creates on x86 Mar 07 12:56:34 the only thing we additionally use is unity-2d, else our setup needs to match -desktop Mar 07 12:56:51 doesnt carsh for me here Mar 07 12:57:05 I have not yet run unity successfuly Mar 07 12:57:09 wow Mar 07 12:57:15 graphics card ? Mar 07 12:57:32 and am not sure the bothed experience I get with classic now is due to unity bits remaning or gnome-calssic changed as well Mar 07 12:57:34 intel Mar 07 12:57:39 had workse on ati r300 Mar 07 12:57:47 I mean it runs for a while then crashes Mar 07 12:57:55 hmm, my 965 works fine here Mar 07 12:58:02 with unity as well as witch classic Mar 07 12:58:11 dual screen support looks weird - tooltips on a different screen than the buttons they belong to Mar 07 12:58:30 I seea deluge of unity bugs and I do not have the time to fight it Mar 07 12:58:36 ah, i only use an external screen on my laptop, but in single screen mode (laptop LCD off) Mar 07 12:58:43 this is GMA4500 Mar 07 12:58:51 ah, thats newer Mar 07 12:59:31 maybe it is the dual setup, anyway I cannot image how this is going to be very stable in less than two months Mar 07 12:59:50 heh Mar 07 12:59:54 did the gnome-classic experience change too? Mar 07 12:59:58 ask the DX team, they seem to be confident Mar 07 13:00:09 (from what i gather in the release team meetings on fridays) Mar 07 13:00:12 I see only one menu now in the corner (not app/places/system) Mar 07 13:00:23 gnome-classic should look like it did before Mar 07 13:00:28 i.e. in maverick Mar 07 13:00:29 and the app menus are gone - I thought only unity moves them to top of screen Mar 07 13:00:38 i have appmenus here Mar 07 13:01:06 ok, so unity bits stay around even if compiz crashes. convenient Mar 07 13:01:27 I guess I need to reboot more often and not just suspend/resume Mar 07 13:01:40 i have to use classic because i just digitize my LP collection, audaciy (and i guess other wxwidget apps) doesnt work right with the appmenu in panel Mar 07 13:02:23 runs as smooth as always Mar 07 13:02:30 ok, that is reassuring Mar 07 13:03:15 ogra, have you seen the debian-cd merge request? Mar 07 13:03:29 hmm, no Mar 07 13:10:55 janimo: I did Mar 07 13:11:16 janimo: I flagged it as "I should really look at it" but didn't get the time Mar 07 13:15:28 lool, ok thanks Mar 07 14:01:54 gah Mar 07 14:02:23 wh does update-manager install postfix on a maverick->natty upgrade Mar 07 14:10:57 morning Mar 07 14:11:18 hey, isnt it a public holiday in brazil ? Mar 07 14:11:32 or only if you dance ? Mar 07 14:12:32 yup, carnival Mar 07 14:13:22 but I'm more to rock and roll than the usual carnival dance ;-) Mar 07 14:13:48 ogra: janimo: in theory the neon issue would be solved by compiling just the neon affected files with neon support Mar 07 14:13:58 and then at runtime it'd load the correct lib Mar 07 14:14:17 that's what I think it was changed for qt 4.7.2 Mar 07 14:14:27 rsalveti, yeah, the question is if thats really the case Mar 07 14:14:35 we'll see :-) Mar 07 14:14:39 but i'm just upgrading to natty here Mar 07 14:14:49 so as soon as it built i can test Mar 07 14:15:23 (if that upgrade ever finishes) Mar 07 14:15:27 ogra, only one day left to go :) Mar 07 14:15:44 yeah, possibly the same for my upgrade :P Mar 07 14:15:47 it just finished buildin on a panda here, started lastd night Mar 07 14:16:24 ppisati: welcome! Mar 07 14:16:40 * ogra urgently needs to re-roll the ac100 kernel with all patches here ... the MMC driver doesnt know about fast cards and limits itself to 16M/s Mar 07 14:17:21 ogra, do you have the sources to that kernel? can it be patched to 2.6.38? Mar 07 14:17:46 it cant, but some people are working on moving it to .36 atm Mar 07 14:17:56 once thats done the next level shouldnt be to hard Mar 07 14:18:41 problem is that apparently the clocks arent set anywhere in the 2.6.29 code so they currently use random values and try to determine the right ones Mar 07 14:39:04 rsalveti: yeah :) Mar 07 14:40:35 ogra: you have devscripts installed? Mar 07 14:40:55 hrw, only with --no-install-recommends Mar 07 14:41:13 might be that u-m doesnt respect that though Mar 07 14:41:23 which is annoying Mar 07 14:44:06 ericm: ping Mar 07 14:44:25 ppisati, pong Mar 07 14:44:38 ppisati, did you get the package? Mar 07 14:44:47 ericm: got the board, but i'm unable to get it running Mar 07 14:44:57 ppisati, what's wrong? Mar 07 14:45:05 ericm: wait let me tell you what i did Mar 07 14:45:11 ppisati, 'k Mar 07 14:45:31 ericm: i got a mvl image (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/releases/maverick/release/ubuntu-netbook-10.10-netbook-armel+dove.img) Mar 07 14:45:44 ericm: dd it on a sd card Mar 07 14:45:57 ericm: put the sd card in sd 1 or 2 (tried both) Mar 07 14:45:59 ppisati, ah - it doesn't boot from SD Mar 07 14:46:03 ppisati, try USB Mar 07 14:46:21 ericm: ah Mar 07 14:46:28 ericm: so i need a usb stick? Mar 07 14:46:33 ppisati, yep Mar 07 14:46:55 ericm: k, let my try Mar 07 14:51:07 ericm: does it make any difference in which usb port i plug the stick? Mar 07 14:51:17 ppisati, nope Mar 07 14:51:22 ppisati, but you can try Mar 07 14:51:33 ppisati, if it doesn't boot on one or the other Mar 07 14:52:21 ericm: the serial should work, right? Mar 07 14:52:48 ppisati, I remember so - but last time I was unable to see anything from there Mar 07 14:53:24 ppisati, cannot remember of if it's now using the USB serial besides that RS232 connector Mar 07 14:54:05 ericm: but at least the vga output should spit something, right? Mar 07 14:54:38 ppisati, yep Mar 07 14:54:52 ppisati, or you may want to try a different monitor Mar 07 14:55:04 ppisati, I have two monitors here, one work, the other doesn't Mar 07 14:55:15 ppisati, :-) Mar 07 14:57:47 ericm: no signs of life :( Mar 07 14:58:06 ppisati, :-( Mar 07 14:58:06 ericm: which .img did you use with that board? Mar 07 14:58:19 ppisati, I used 10.04 Mar 07 14:59:04 as i said above, maverick might not work Mar 07 14:59:09 ogra: k Mar 07 15:00:36 ogra, cannot find the 10.04 dove image though, strange Mar 07 15:01:00 ericm: yep, it's not there Mar 07 15:01:15 might be on releases.u.c Mar 07 15:05:23 ogra: found it, let me try that Mar 07 15:29:43 GrueMaster, hmm, when did you do your last natty upgrade test, cups seems to hang here upgrading the ac100 to natty Mar 07 15:32:24 i wonder if thats a recent regression or something new Mar 07 15:37:01 ogra: no luck either with 10.04 Mar 07 15:39:19 weird Mar 07 15:39:28 yep :( Mar 07 15:39:49 ppisati, talk to GrueMaster and NCommander, they are the only ones still owning dove boards in the arm team Mar 07 15:39:58 ogra: ok, thanks Mar 07 15:40:14 (we havent touched it actively in the team since a year, NCommander did a special spinnoff for the maverick release) Mar 07 15:41:15 NCommander: ping Mar 07 15:41:17 GrueMaster: ping Mar 07 15:42:12 what revision is your board ? Mar 07 15:42:23 ogra: is it written on the pcb? Mar 07 15:42:33 there should be a sticker Mar 07 15:42:46 i think we only supported X0 and upwards in the end Mar 07 15:43:01 not sure though Mar 07 15:43:19 ogra: actually ericm said he was using this Mar 07 15:43:28 ppisati: morning. Mar 07 15:43:30 hmm, k Mar 07 15:43:32 (barely) Mar 07 15:43:39 GrueMaster: morning Mar 07 15:43:43 GrueMaster, ppisati is our new arm kernel victim :) Mar 07 15:43:52 I'm sorry. Mar 07 15:43:57 :) Mar 07 15:43:57 lol Mar 07 15:44:07 ppisati, it's A0 and lucid installation should be working Mar 07 15:44:12 ppisati, I installed it days ago Mar 07 15:44:51 ericm: usb stick and vga output, right? Mar 07 15:45:01 ppisati, yes Mar 07 15:45:05 janimo: saw a new qt4-x11 update today. this should be repeated after today's gcc-4.5 is in the archive Mar 07 15:45:24 doko, you mean rebuilt :) Mar 07 15:45:32 ppisati, is the hex LED increasing ever? Mar 07 15:45:35 and the ugly hack dropped Mar 07 15:46:28 ogra: actually it's completely off Mar 07 15:46:39 ogra: while a couple of other green leds are on Mar 07 15:47:17 ogra: whatever ... Mar 07 15:47:27 ogra: did you use an atx power brick to power it? Mar 07 15:47:47 doko, i meant to say ... its high up on our radar, dont worry :) Mar 07 15:48:13 ppisati, yes and a sata disk ... but i only had a Y0 Mar 07 15:48:23 thats loooong ago Mar 07 15:48:27 ogra: k Mar 07 15:48:41 ericm: and did you use an atx power brick too? Mar 07 15:48:53 ppisati, yes Mar 07 15:49:16 ericm: and do you remember if the HEX leds were on? Mar 07 15:49:29 ericm: i mean, even when it didn't boot Mar 07 15:49:34 ppisati, it's powered on as '7' Mar 07 15:49:39 ppisati, or '0' Mar 07 15:49:44 ericm: i'm trying to rule out a power problem Mar 07 15:49:49 ppisati, and when kernel actually boots, it starts increasing from 0 to 7 Mar 07 15:50:15 ppisati, it's a standard ATX, shouldn't be much a problem Mar 07 15:50:19 ericm: uhmm... Mar 07 15:52:02 ppisati, have to sleep now - let me know if you succeed with that crappy board :-) Mar 07 15:52:05 ppisati, good luck Mar 07 15:53:36 ppisati: I can work with you on getting your dove running, but I need my coffee first. Give me 15 minutes. Mar 07 15:55:44 GrueMaster: k, thanks Mar 07 16:22:01 ppisati: Ok, I'm semi-awake now. Have you gotten anywhere with your dove board yet? Mar 07 16:24:31 GrueMaster: nope Mar 07 16:24:45 Are you getting power? Mar 07 16:24:53 GrueMaster: i tried with a Lucid and Maverick image on sd and usb Mar 07 16:25:04 GrueMaster: well, i'm using an ATX power brick Mar 07 16:25:20 GrueMaster: the HEX lcd is off, but a couple of green leds on the board turn on Mar 07 16:25:41 GrueMaster: so i guess power is ok Mar 07 16:26:17 GrueMaster: could you try to power on a board with no usb/sd inside and tell me if the LCD turns on? Mar 07 16:27:04 No, that just means standby power is available. Press the power button. It is on the mainboard, next to the barrel power connector . Mar 07 16:27:33 I am currently rebooting mine into Lucid. Works just fine. Mar 07 16:28:33 GrueMaster: ... Mar 07 16:28:39 GrueMaster: i fell really dumb now... Mar 07 16:28:44 heh. Mar 07 16:28:56 GrueMaster: thanks Mar 07 16:29:49 No problem. And don't worry, I won't start your beer tab for at least a week. :P Mar 07 16:31:43 ogra: What was the issue you had with Cups? Mar 07 16:31:58 GrueMaster: :) Mar 07 16:48:30 GrueMaster, service restart/stop from the preinst/postinst scripts seemed to hang Mar 07 16:48:51 Hmmm. Mar 07 16:49:09 This is in natty? Mar 07 16:49:19 maverick to natty on the ac100 Mar 07 16:50:03 Not that I have an ac100 to test with, but I'll try to reproduce it today on panda. May take a while (install, update, upgrade). Mar 07 16:50:30 yeah Mar 07 16:50:48 3h up to now on the ac100 Mar 07 16:50:59 i just used do-release-upgrade on cmdline though Mar 07 16:51:14 Ok. I'll keep that in mind. Mar 07 16:51:32 ogra: you finally upgrade? Mar 07 16:51:58 yes Mar 07 16:52:09 need to test neon bits Mar 07 16:52:16 ;D Mar 07 16:53:01 I am waiting for courier to replace alix.1c (amd geodelx x86) with d510mo (d510 64bit atom) Mar 07 16:53:16 will see how good/bad ubuntu server will work on my router Mar 07 16:53:39 its just x86 hw ... Mar 07 16:53:45 it will work well Mar 07 16:55:48 I had binutils-powerpc-linux-gnu on router... Mar 07 17:10:33 ppisati: Did your system boot? Mar 07 17:28:41 doko, I noticed the new gcc contains the fix, but I wanted to do an upload so I don't wait another day, and more importantly so that we have a 4.7.2 in a a hopefully working state with gcc 4.4 and have the compiler change as a separate step , in case somehtign goes wrong we don't have to scractj our heads againt whether it is a toolcahin on upstream change that caused the difference Mar 07 17:28:51 but yes, we need to rebuild with gcc 4.5 ASAP Mar 07 17:29:04 janimo, well, we also need to drop the patch anyway Mar 07 17:29:28 i guess if we take care by thu. it will be ok Mar 07 17:29:37 both packages will have built then Mar 07 17:29:39 what is thu, another milestone? Mar 07 17:30:06 yeah, the weekly thursday milestone ... comes right before the weekly friday one ;) Mar 07 17:30:08 ogra, by tomorrow we'll see if neon runtime detection work adn whether another qt change is needed Mar 07 17:30:14 :) Mar 07 17:30:23 right Mar 07 17:30:45 i dont think we are in a hurry with the rebuild ... though the kde people might disagree Mar 07 17:30:55 not sure how much pressure has built up there Mar 07 17:36:34 ogra, whay would they care that much? Mar 07 17:36:53 because not all of kde is built yet ? Mar 07 17:36:57 as long as it is agreed it is a temporary measure and has no drawbacks Mar 07 17:37:05 * ogra hasnt checked the list Mar 07 17:39:04 ogra, ah, I thought it was in reference to qt Mar 07 17:39:17 nah, kde Mar 07 17:39:41 indeed kde needs rebuilds, I think this is taken care of kubuntu devs unless it is arm specific FTBFS Mar 07 17:39:50 I think it is just the usual deps not yet met thing Mar 07 17:39:57 yep Mar 07 17:43:45 xulrunner-1.9.2 (1.9.2.14+build3+nobinonly-0ubuntu2) wird eingerichtet ... Mar 07 17:43:45 Segmentation fault (core dumped) Mar 07 17:43:47 hrm Mar 07 17:43:50 not good Mar 07 17:48:49 Hey, I got Blaze running natty A3. replaced x-loader & u-boot with rsalveti's secret sauce and everything looks good, even unity-2d. Mar 07 17:49:04 GrueMaster: \o/ Mar 07 17:49:23 GrueMaster: which kernel are you using? Mar 07 17:49:38 awesome Mar 07 17:50:09 Default kernel that is in the image. 2.6.35-1101.4 I think. Mar 07 17:50:17 GrueMaster: thx Mar 07 17:55:42 ogra: rsalvetiWhat are the chances of having both panda & blaze versions of uboot & xloader in the deb package? Or are they heading towards a single binary? Mar 07 18:06:09 Ugh. Fresh install of maverick, then dist-upgrade == 242 package updates. Mar 07 18:10:21 GrueMaster: they will be the same binary Mar 07 18:10:34 but we're still waiting correct sdp support from ti with x-loader upstream Mar 07 18:10:36 Cool Mar 07 18:10:50 oh, sorry, at least x-loader needs to be a different binary Mar 07 18:11:10 because of the hardware id Mar 07 18:11:31 It can't auto-detect? Mar 07 18:11:33 it could be the same binary, but then it'd need a way to identify the hardware before actually initializing it Mar 07 18:21:39 hrw: the x-loader you were using is a quite old one Mar 07 18:22:09 that could be your problem Mar 07 18:22:20 or even a simple fat problem with your first disk partition Mar 07 18:51:00 rsalveti: linux-image-2.6.38-1204.5 working on my panda. Even have dvi output (shocking). Thought I might need a rework. Mar 07 18:51:14 GrueMaster: awesome Mar 07 18:51:22 GrueMaster: does it crash when you halt or reboot? Mar 07 18:51:42 GrueMaster: please check if the sound and wireless is also working Mar 07 18:51:44 if possible Mar 07 18:51:48 Didn't appear to on reboot Mar 07 18:51:59 (crash that is). Mar 07 18:52:53 Had to reboot a couple of times. Once to add dvi settings to boot.script, and another because I forgot to add the kernel version to flash-kernel when updating boot.script (oops). Mar 07 18:53:25 So I have booted back and forth a couple of times between .35 & .38. Mar 07 18:53:52 Bluetooth appears to be enabled. Haven't tested yet. Wifi also appears to have been detected. Mar 07 18:54:34 Does wifi need firmware? Mar 07 19:06:36 GrueMaster: it needs a firmware Mar 07 19:06:42 but probably already installed Mar 07 19:07:21 Ok. Might need an antennae. Don't have one handy and my wifi AP is in another room. Mar 07 19:09:12 could be even the lack of proper calibration values Mar 07 19:09:19 sebjan may help here Mar 07 19:11:53 GrueMaster: the wlan firmware coming with the linux-firmware package is the good one. Mar 07 19:12:01 for calibration: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/wl12xx#Calibration Mar 07 19:12:10 (did not try that myself yet) Mar 07 19:13:11 sebjan: ok, will check in a sec. Trying to get audio now. Mar 07 19:13:14 GrueMaster: for WLAN, you may have a MAC address set to 0. This can hurt. For now, the best is to set a random MAC address manually (using ifconfig) Mar 07 19:16:13 GrueMaster: fyi, here is the way I tested wlan and audio on this kernel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/577134/ Mar 07 19:16:18 rsalveti: no audio at all. Mar 07 19:16:44 GrueMaster: you need some mixers settings Mar 07 19:16:50 hm, I think you need to set the mixers by hand Mar 07 19:17:10 Yea, I was tweaking alsamixer manually. Mar 07 19:17:37 While running speaker-test -c 2 -t wav in another terminal. Mar 07 19:19:13 * sebjan has to go Mar 07 19:19:17 GrueMaster: http://paste.ubuntu.com/577137/ Mar 07 19:19:34 from sebjan's email Mar 07 19:20:16 yep, you have this one plus the record mixers in my above http://paste.ubuntu.com/577134/ compilation ;-) Mar 07 19:20:50 that should do it :-) Mar 07 19:25:32 Nope, nothing. Mar 07 19:25:49 This is on natty w/ 2.6.38-1204.5. Mar 07 19:27:22 Hmmm. dmesg has "asoc: no valid backend routes for PCM: SDP4430 Media" repeated multiple times. Mar 07 19:30:22 Could be pulseaudio related though. No hw in pulseaudio. No sound using alsa tools. Mar 07 19:32:53