**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri May 06 02:59:58 2011 May 06 07:02:04 hello. May 06 07:02:37 I would like to install ubuntu on a beagleboard. Do you know which version I should use, OMAP3 or OMAP4? (sorry for the stupid question) May 06 07:04:45 beagleboard use omap3 May 06 07:06:15 thank you May 06 07:52:11 ogra, ogra_ ping May 06 08:30:03 http://lists.linaro.org/pipermail/linaro-dev/2011-May/004342.html May 06 08:38:07 unity on 640x480px looks interesting May 06 08:56:58 hrw: just saw your email. so hdmi is not working on panda? i am surprised May 06 08:57:47 ndec: in Linaro kernel May 06 08:57:58 ndec: ubuntu kernel has it working and do not ask me why May 06 08:58:16 hrw: well... at least i know why ubuntu has it working... May 06 08:58:27 hrw: dvi should work on ubuntu too. May 06 08:58:35 ndec: not all agreen changes got into the linaro tree May 06 08:58:37 with 1280x960 max? May 06 08:58:47 hrw: you might not have the 'auto detection' in dvi though, rsalveti? May 06 08:58:48 I prefer hdmi with 1680x1050 (native of panel) May 06 08:58:52 hrw: yes, but you need to set the resolution at cmdline May 06 08:59:16 ndec: we should have a new version of linaro kernel with both hdmi and dvi working May 06 08:59:20 with the drm omap driver May 06 08:59:26 and compatible with omap 3 and omap 4 May 06 08:59:36 one day I will pack my personal boards and get back to cross compilations only. May 06 08:59:48 rsalveti: why not new ubuntu kernel? May 06 09:00:09 it will give me 2-3 weeks of quiet and then mad mails from rsalveti will arrive ;D May 06 09:00:15 ndec: once this is released and working with the linaro kernel I'll request an sru to include the same changes May 06 09:00:29 ndec: just that the linaro one already included the drm driver and etc May 06 09:00:35 I'm using it to fix the bugs I saw May 06 09:00:46 once fixed, will also push it to the ubuntu kernel May 06 09:00:50 rsalveti: and of course we do not have usb host working - none of my usb devices got detected May 06 09:00:55 hrw: :-) May 06 09:00:56 rsalveti: really? the omap-gpu drm driver is in linaro? May 06 09:01:04 hrw: that's weird May 06 09:01:08 ndec: yup May 06 09:01:19 rsalveti: link/ May 06 09:01:22 link? May 06 09:01:40 rsalveti: I have pandausb1->usbhub->keyboard,mouse pandausb2->usbhub->usbhdd May 06 09:01:55 ndec: http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=kernel/linux-linaro-2.6.38.git;a=summary May 06 09:01:59 have to solder pandausb3/4 one day May 06 09:02:06 ndec: was included when I ported it to omap 3 May 06 09:02:12 solder ? May 06 09:02:19 hrw, you just need a plug May 06 09:02:24 at that time the hdmi driver wasn't included at the tree, so that's why it's not working now with hdmi May 06 09:02:28 need some additional patches May 06 09:02:56 hrw: can you send me your dmesg? May 06 09:03:26 rsalveti: it would be nice to see the linaro kernel 'pull request' on a ML so that we can follow what gets merged. is that done already? May 06 09:04:31 ogra_: will it work reliable without soldering? May 06 09:04:54 I believe atm the landing teams are requesting the pull request directly to nicolas May 06 09:04:58 hrw, a std PC USB slot thingie with cable and plug will work May 06 09:05:12 just grab one from an old PC case May 06 09:05:21 ndec: not sure if they are all going into the ml May 06 09:05:22 I have such May 06 09:05:32 * ogra_ curses git loudly May 06 09:05:54 rsalveti: is there a TI landing team ML? May 06 09:06:09 ndec: you should tell me :-) May 06 09:06:22 let me check May 06 09:07:01 ndec: https://launchpad.net/~linaro-landing-team-ti May 06 09:07:02 nops May 06 09:07:59 rsalveti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/604014/ May 06 09:10:28 hrw: hm, lots of errors May 06 09:10:47 but this one seems that at least recognized your usb devices May 06 09:12:38 rsalveti: it found only in-cpu-host and in-cpu-hub. no onboard hub, no onboard ethernet May 06 09:13:12 ogra_: where from flash-kernel gets omap4 boot.scr? May 06 09:14:43 hrw: hm, true, saw the 3 ports detected messaged and thought it could be the external hub May 06 09:18:06 any TI guy around? do you know where i can find one? May 06 09:18:39 ppisati: ndec May 06 09:18:53 thanks May 06 09:19:01 ndec: ping May 06 09:21:30 rsalveti: we need to add fbset, usbutils to default images May 06 09:21:48 rsalveti: edid parser would be nice too May 06 09:24:47 hrw: yeah, agree, was also missing fbset here May 06 09:25:14 and theses tools can probably help you with your tests May 06 09:25:22 guess you can open a bug requesting it May 06 09:25:52 rsalveti: against lianro-images? May 06 09:28:08 bug 778398 May 06 09:28:09 hrw: I believe linaro-images should be fine May 06 09:28:10 Launchpad bug 778398 in linaro-images "Add fbset into images" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/778398 May 06 09:28:49 ppisati: pong. May 06 09:28:55 bug 778399 May 06 09:28:56 Launchpad bug 778399 in linaro-images "Add usbutils into images" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/778399 May 06 09:28:56 rsalveti: i should tell you what? May 06 09:29:56 ndec: just kidding about if I should know if TI lt has a m-l :-) May 06 09:30:17 hrw: cool, thanks for filling the bugs May 06 09:30:47 ndec: never mind, i answered my question by myself... :P May 06 09:31:16 but i still beleive there's something wrong how we manage the L2 cache... May 06 09:34:43 amazing, I'm getting a higher resolution with omap 3 when comparing to panda's dvi May 06 09:35:08 1400x900 with my xM and 1280x900 with panda May 06 09:53:48 38/39 and we still don't have proper PM support for Beagle =\ May 06 09:54:19 with some luck it'll work with panda around 46/47 May 06 09:54:23 get an ac100 :P we just got it working with .37 May 06 09:54:32 PM i mean ... May 06 09:55:02 well, people also got it working with 32 and 37, but none of the patches are upstream May 06 09:55:33 ah, yeah, these bits arent upstream either yet May 06 09:55:40 but will be soon May 06 09:55:40 ogra: do you need that weird daemon or proprietary software to make it work? May 06 09:55:47 not with .37 May 06 09:55:52 we have a sane kernel now May 06 09:55:53 oh, cool May 06 09:55:57 that's awesome May 06 09:56:06 i can even do kernel and initrd updates on the running machine May 06 09:56:30 flash-kernel support is around the corner ;) May 06 09:56:33 :-) May 06 09:56:43 just missing images May 06 09:56:53 thats next :) May 06 09:57:30 proper cpufreq really helps the battery life :) May 06 09:58:20 only sound, suspend and resume are missing atm ... and the wlan driver could be more stable May 06 09:58:45 not that bad May 06 09:58:49 nope May 06 09:58:57 ogra: how many hours of battery are you getting nowadays? May 06 09:59:02 thanks to chromiumos we got a really good base branch May 06 09:59:16 5-6 atm May 06 09:59:37 still not the 7-8 that android gets on the device but already pretty good May 06 10:00:26 sure! May 06 10:01:07 and with 14 tabs in FF, xchat, one terminal and unity-2d running htop only shows 290M used :) May 06 10:01:17 and zero swap May 06 10:01:44 its really getting there May 06 10:02:01 now nvidia just needs to give us a driver :) May 06 10:03:07 though given the tegra is internally a geforce i wonder if nouveau wouldnt be hackable for it May 06 10:03:28 but that requires a brighter guy than me with more graphics knowledge May 06 10:15:14 ogra_: and gpu is probably not on agp/pcie link so harder to sniff May 06 14:43:11 I have to call BS on this one. http://www.geek.com/articles/games/game-developer-david-braben-creates-a-usb-stick-pc-for-25-2011055/ May 06 14:43:40 Arm11 w/ 128M ram running Ubuntu at HDMI resolutions and web browsing? May 06 14:43:54 wow May 06 14:43:59 that David Braben!!! May 06 14:44:01 GrueMaster: unsupported 9.04 even May 06 14:44:19 That's what I posted. May 06 14:45:00 Although the arm version numbers escape me. What rev is Arm11? v5 or v6? May 06 14:45:30 iirc v5 May 06 14:45:37 or was it v4 ? May 06 14:45:55 arm really needs to do some marketing homework some day :P May 06 14:47:15 Well, like Intel is much better. CPU family went from 4>5>6>F>6. May 06 14:47:39 F being the Pentium 4 family of products. May 06 14:48:12 6 being anything from the Pentium Pro (1996) to the iCore series of today. May 06 16:41:08 ARm11 = ARMv6 May 06 16:52:21 arm9=v4t2 arm11=v6t May 06 20:24:33 GrueMaster: would you mind testing a new kernel with your monitors? May 06 20:24:36 http://people.canonical.com/~rsalveti/linaro/kernel/ May 06 20:24:55 I'm working to fix the drm issues with the hdmi driver first with the linaro kernel May 06 20:25:03 when fixed will request the sru for our kernel May 06 20:27:11 rsalveti: Ok, give me a sec. May 06 20:28:11 has anyone got GLES2 to work on the latest natty install for beagleboard? when I run "es2_info" it just segfaults (which is what I've been seeing happen any time I try to run a gles2 app lately). I've got an xM rev C May 06 20:31:22 GrueMaster: this kernel should work with both panda and beagle May 06 20:31:38 Interesting. ok. May 06 20:31:49 GrueMaster: if possible, boot it with omapdss.debug=y drm.debug=7 and send paste me your dmesg May 06 20:32:00 Damn. FS remounted RO. May 06 20:32:02 Grrr. May 06 20:32:09 (not a kernel issue) May 06 20:32:34 matt_o: yup, I had that working with my xM just fine May 06 20:32:44 did you installed the sgx drivers? May 06 20:32:51 also, did you include yourself at the video group? May 06 20:33:06 rsalveti, one sec I will check my dpkg list May 06 20:35:55 I have a bunch of libgles*, libegl1*, opengles* packages installed if that's what you mean May 06 20:36:05 and yeah I added my user to the video group May 06 20:36:13 (do I need to add root to that group too?) May 06 20:36:28 matt_o: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAP/Graphics May 06 20:36:46 you need libegl1-sgx-omap3 libgles1-sgx-omap3 libgles2-sgx-omap3 May 06 20:36:58 rsalveti, yes I found that page earlier and followed the instructions May 06 20:38:01 got those installed, yep May 06 20:38:15 matt_o: can you paste the output of strace es2_info? May 06 20:38:24 good idea.. May 06 20:40:31 this may take me a few mins.. I'll be back :) May 06 20:44:37 irc May 06 20:46:53 ok.. I'm on my xM right now.. got the strace.. pasting it in a sec May 06 20:47:41 * GrueMaster waits patiently as he reflashes natty-netbook on an uSD card for XM kernel testing. May 06 20:49:33 http://home.rulecity.com/browse/trace.txt May 06 20:49:36 ok there it is.. phew May 06 20:51:29 Matt_O|xM: urgh, you got a bad address while calling ioctl at the pvrsrvkm device May 06 20:51:49 Matt_O|xM: what is your kernel version? May 06 20:51:58 Matt_O|xM: you said beagle rev c? May 06 20:52:12 * ogra_ heard XM May 06 20:52:14 Linux version 2.6.38.4-x3 (root@beagle-256mb-0) (gcc version 4.5.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.5.2-8ubuntu4) ) #1 SMP Wed Apr 27 08:00:04 UTC 2011 May 06 20:52:25 xM rev C, yes May 06 20:52:35 I'm afraid we're missing some bits for rev c May 06 20:53:29 so you think you know what the issue is? May 06 20:53:30 Matt_O|xM: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/770679 May 06 20:53:32 Launchpad bug 770679 in u-boot-linaro "Missing proper support for Beagle XM rev B and C" [Undecided,New] May 06 20:53:45 can you test this kernel? http://people.canonical.com/~rsalveti/770679/ May 06 20:53:49 though that kernel version is weird May 06 20:54:09 I knew I shouldn't have used command-line IRC :) May 06 20:54:20 unless we recently started using multipliers in versions :) May 06 20:54:21 "apt-get install xchat" just looked like it would take a while :) May 06 20:54:27 O May 06 20:54:46 I'm surprised you could boot with this kernel May 06 20:54:52 I followed some instructions from a beagleboard/ubuntu wiki so I'm not sure what I've got May 06 20:55:01 oh my May 06 20:55:02 am I using somethnig hacked? May 06 20:55:12 yeah, seems this kernel is not produced by us May 06 20:55:28 ahhh excellent... then I'll just reimage and use your stuff then May 06 20:55:36 I thouht that's what I was using ni e first place May 06 20:56:00 just follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAP May 06 20:57:03 Matt_O|xM: you probably got your kernel from robert nelson May 06 20:57:14 yeah.. is that unwise? :) May 06 20:57:23 ogra: will do (very shortly) May 06 20:57:48 no, its not unwise, its just different from ours :) May 06 20:57:48 I am powering down my xM now but I will still see any replies on my other session May 06 20:59:24 aahhh.. you guys are making me feel so much better :) May 06 21:00:25 Hmmm. rsalveti, flash-kernel doesn't appear to like that kernel. Will bork it in manually. May 06 21:01:07 linaro kernel ? May 06 21:03:51 yup May 06 21:04:07 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/721147 May 06 21:04:09 Launchpad bug 721147 in flash-kernel "flash-kernel subarch check fails with Linaro OMAP kernels" [Undecided,Confirmed] May 06 21:04:46 GrueMaster: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/70890844/flash-kernel_2.28ubuntu19.1.debdiff May 06 21:04:53 the change is minimal May 06 21:05:02 just copy/paste it May 06 21:06:18 rsalveti, just reading that launchpad bug report.. seems like you need people with xM rev C's to help test? I'd be more than happy to :) May 06 21:06:34 matt_o: yup :-) May 06 21:06:41 matt_o: that would be nice May 06 21:07:55 the people on that bug report are the people I've been looking for since I got my xM :) May 06 21:25:37 rsalveti: I have a warning in dmesg. Installing pastebin now. May 06 21:25:55 GrueMaster: that's fine May 06 21:25:58 expected May 06 21:26:02 ok May 06 21:30:48 finished download, writing image to SD card now :D May 06 21:31:05 I can almost taste the successful conclusion :) May 06 22:00:57 hmmm... is it supposed to freeze at "booting the kernel." ? :) May 06 22:01:21 which image did you take ? May 06 22:01:35 matt_o: Are you running headless or do you have a keyboard,mouse, and monitor? May 06 22:01:39 netbook needs a display May 06 22:01:43 ubuntu-11.04-preinstalled-netbook-armel+omap.img.gz May 06 22:02:04 That is stand alone. May 06 22:02:04 it has a keyboard plugged in.. I can give it a display and a mouse May 06 22:02:09 * ogra_ thought he suggested headless in #beagle before May 06 22:02:25 yeah, then do that May 06 22:02:53 I'm afraid the default image is not going to work for you May 06 22:03:01 because the lack of rev C support May 06 22:03:20 you're the first one actually verifying that it doesn't work :-) May 06 22:03:25 * ogra_ whispers ... headless :) May 06 22:03:38 even headless, same kernel May 06 22:03:49 oh, it breaks completely ? May 06 22:03:52 I'm afraid that the kernel is not going to boot May 06 22:04:04 i though it has only display issues May 06 22:04:12 ogra_: nops May 06 22:04:33 but I couldn't confirm as nobody ever tested with rev c May 06 22:04:59 that's why I opened the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/770679 May 06 22:05:00 Launchpad bug 770679 in u-boot-linaro "Missing proper support for Beagle XM rev B and C" [Undecided,New] May 06 22:06:04 matt_o: do you still have your previous rootfs? May 06 22:06:27 if we confirm that my kernel fixes the bug, we can have the same workaround we had for rev B May 06 22:06:30 with maverick May 06 22:06:43 adding the instructions at the wiki page pointing the fixed uImage May 06 22:07:07 and get work to have this fix as SRU May 06 22:07:53 rsalveti, sure I have my previous one May 06 22:08:15 matt_o: can you just boot with this rootfs and install my kernel deb by hand? May 06 22:08:24 I first want to confirm that my kernel fixes your problem May 06 22:08:37 then I can generate a new uImage to be replaced at our images May 06 22:08:41 I just have to copy it to the vfat partition, right? May 06 22:09:01 matt_o: no, please download the linux-image deb, dpkg -i and then run flash-kernel May 06 22:09:08 oh ok May 06 22:09:44 so you want me to use my previous natty install (with the other kernel) and then boot it with your new kernel and see what happens? May 06 22:09:57 matt_o: exactly May 06 22:10:19 ok... lemme boot it up.. glad I didn't blow it away hehe May 06 22:10:43 BTW, these micro SD cards are super tiny! I love them! :) May 06 22:12:08 Yea, great. Until some idiot vendor designs a system that uses them but makes it near-impossible to insert/remove without micro-tweezers. May 06 22:13:33 ok... I went to http://people.canonical.com/~rsalveti/770679/ and see three files... which one doI get? May 06 22:13:41 oph.. May 06 22:13:42 nm May 06 22:13:45 two of them are headers.. I see :) May 06 22:14:09 matt_o: :-) May 06 22:14:09 GrueMaster, just replace the spring with a stronger one ;) May 06 22:14:21 am I going to need to back up my current kernel image for this? hehe May 06 22:14:53 Yea, microSD attack missile launcher. Great. May 06 22:15:01 GrueMaster, I got a USB adapter for my microSD card that has that exact problem hehehe May 06 22:15:12 and you can use it as stapler later if you dont test on it anymore ! May 06 22:16:05 Heh. I did find a new use for my 256M microSD though. It is perfect for the root image for my Nook color. May 06 22:16:36 256M ? May 06 22:16:49 Yea. The image is 128M. May 06 22:16:52 cant have many apps :) May 06 22:17:13 Just enough scripting to root the installed image. May 06 22:17:49 I'll show you next week. May 06 22:18:01 :) May 06 22:18:23 * GrueMaster just wishes he had more time to hack natty onto the system properly. May 06 22:18:58 roll an oneiric image instead ;) May 06 22:19:06 Pfft. May 06 22:19:17 Need a working package manager first. May 06 22:19:38 apt is fixed i think May 06 22:20:01 but i meant on cdimage ;) May 06 22:20:09 within the next cycle May 06 22:20:48 Oh. I see what you're saying. I plan on it as part of my hw overlay stuff. May 06 22:21:07 sweet May 06 22:21:18 ok.. here we go.. rebooting.. May 06 22:21:22 Makes a perfect test platform for this work. May 06 22:21:28 yep May 06 22:22:10 cool, kernel booted and I'm at login prompt May 06 22:24:11 this is looking promising May 06 22:27:26 matt_o: awesome, can you paste me the dmesg output? May 06 22:27:34 it should say you have a rev C May 06 22:32:28 ok.. I'm on my xM again. the kernel boot worked but it looks like I will need a fresh sgx kernel module May 06 22:32:58 I guessI should'ev installed those kernel headers :) May 06 22:45:51 yay! es2_info returns sane results!! May 06 22:49:10 matt_o|xM: awesome May 06 22:49:23 matt_o|xM: can you give dmesg and paste me your output? May 06 22:53:30 rsalveti, I'm still here hehe May 06 22:53:48 you want the whole dmesg? May 06 22:54:37 matt_o: yup May 06 22:55:48 http://home.rulecity.com/browse/dmesg.txt May 06 23:03:57 rsalveti, is that helpful? :) May 06 23:05:02 matt_o: sure, thanks a lot May 06 23:05:07 seems the patch is wrong May 06 23:05:10 [ 0.143920] OMAP3 Beagle Rev: unknown 3, assuming xM C or newer May 06 23:05:12 Is it possible to flash a Linux installation from an onboard Windows CE environment, or would I pretty much be stuck to having to connect via JTAG to flash it? May 06 23:05:26 but as newer revs are all assumed as C, it works for you May 06 23:05:32 phew May 06 23:05:58 matt_o: can you reply the bug posting this link and that it worked for you? May 06 23:06:15 please also subscribe it, so if I have any other test request you can help us :-) May 06 23:06:34 rsalveti, sure.. I will move it to a more permanent URL May 06 23:06:41 unless I can just post the text May 06 23:06:55 matt_o: use paste.ubuntu.com May 06 23:07:03 I will definitely be interested in helping test because having a stable dev environment is my goal May 06 23:07:05 I don't think they remove the content once pasted May 06 23:07:17 I'm not so interested in hacking constantly and never getting anything stable *cough cough* May 06 23:07:27 oh look.. he's back.. hehe May 06 23:16:49 ok I posted **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat May 07 02:59:58 2011