**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 25 02:59:57 2011 May 25 06:51:11 good morning all May 25 08:23:17 ogra_, are there daily preinstalled images for oneiric? May 25 08:36:00 janimo, not until the switch to live-build is done May 25 08:36:40 ogra_, ok so livecd-rootfs is completely dropped soon? May 25 08:36:45 ogra_: do you have never tryed the Totem Youtube plugin under ubuntu/ac100 ? May 25 08:42:35 sha__, no, does it work ? May 25 08:42:52 janimo, yeah, cjwatson is just porting it over May 25 08:58:41 nope ogra_ and i'm tryng to understand why... btw i try next days :( i can't now May 25 15:44:21 GrueMaster: about the A2 panda May 25 15:44:46 Yes? May 25 15:44:48 GrueMaster: did he have a serial console attached? because from the description, looks like the problem is in the bootloaders May 25 15:45:01 > When you try and boot the green light comes on for about 5 sec then goes May 25 15:45:02 > completely out. May 25 15:45:04 Not that I know of. May 25 15:45:08 ok May 25 15:45:10 i'll ask May 25 16:07:44 persia: hi - in your directions yesterday, you said 'connect the netbook via usb and boot'. do you mean connect it over usb to another laptop? May 25 16:08:05 Doesn't matter what you connect it to, but yeah, something on which you have the nVidia tools installed May 25 16:08:15 (for those following at home, I'll repaste the directions) May 25 16:09:16 ah, i need to install those on another laptop :) gotcha May 25 16:11:31 persia: looks straightforward enough from there - will hopefully get further this afternoon. (stuff is d/ling right now). thanks. May 25 16:11:36 http://paste.ubuntu.com/612813/ May 25 16:12:15 Sure. By the way, which model do you have? May 25 16:13:29 az/05m ? May 25 16:14:07 With a Japanese keyboard? May 25 16:14:17 yeah May 25 16:14:24 what fs do you recommend for the sdcard? May 25 16:14:51 Doesn't matter. Something that can handle case-sensitivity, symlinks, etc. May 25 16:15:22 I used ext4. I've seen people recommend nilfs. If you're planning to write once, do an install, and wipe, you're not going to hurt your card much more regardless of what you use. May 25 16:15:35 ext4 and nilfs are recommended May 25 16:15:54 ext4 only if your sd-card can handle it properly May 25 16:16:32 gildean, Does it matter that much for the pasted procedure? The filesystem is untarred, booted once, and then tossed. May 25 16:16:34 i've used nilfs2 for the last 4-5 months now and can personally recommend it May 25 16:16:50 persia: yeah, well not that much May 25 16:16:54 nilfs is indeed nice for use for flash. May 25 16:17:05 but you might want to keep the sd-card with a working system May 25 16:17:07 hallyn, Of more concern is that you want to consider which filesystem to use for your main data partition. May 25 16:17:10 for later use ;) May 25 16:17:26 I figure it's trivial to recreate given available images, but maybe that's just me :) May 25 16:18:19 yeah it is trivial, but if you have spare sd-cards it's not a bad idea to keep one with all the crap ready May 25 16:18:20 persia: the tegra tools won't compile, claim S_ISDIR not defined. should be trivial to correct, but surprising May 25 16:18:31 * hallyn has no spare sd cards, took one from camcorder May 25 16:18:36 hallyn, So, anyway, you'll want to use mmcblk0p12 for your install (13GB). You have working bluetooth. You will have to hack around to switch your keyboard to jp106 (/etc/default/keyboard is where I did it), and then your |\ key won't work properly. May 25 16:19:30 You have no 3G (don't stick a SIM in the slot, it will become lost). At least on mine (same model), the external USB port doesn't work with my keyboard (although USB works in general). May 25 16:20:08 persia: noted May 25 16:21:45 feh, i was afraid of that, it autogenerates the file that needs S_ISDIR defined :) May 25 16:21:46 poc May 25 20:47:34 persia: step 9 says 'untar the tarball there'. which tarball? the one that got expanded onto the sdcard earlier? May 25 21:06:37 hallyn: iirc, ogra has made different rootfs's for internal and external install May 25 21:07:24 gildean: so which tarball do you think h e's talking about there? May 25 21:07:37 and btw, which fs *are* you using for your internal root device? May 25 21:07:39 the one that has 'SD' on it's name is for the sd and the other one, well you should get the point May 25 21:07:55 ok, so same one that i wrote to the sd. got it May 25 21:08:21 i wonder if it'll know how to handle xfs May 25 21:08:42 i have nilfs2 on my setup, but i use the .32 and have made my own release on it May 25 21:09:11 persia: oh, you say to use /dev/mmcblk012 on az, but i only have through p7 by default May 25 21:09:22 or rather, i've made the guide to recommend nilfs, and i've made a modded rootfs from phh's original tarball May 25 21:09:44 gildean: were mods necessary to support nilfs, or you just happen to also be usin gmodified rootfs May 25 21:10:37 hallyn: hmm, iirc marvins kernel doesn't support nilfs on default May 25 21:10:56 gildean: good call, it's not in /proc/filesystems May 25 21:10:57 if you want to, you can check the guide i mentioned here: http://ac100.tunk.org/wiki/phh May 25 21:11:22 ah but i could modprobe it May 25 21:11:54 and here is the rootfs i release on monday: http://kotelett.no/ac100/gildean/ May 25 21:13:02 hallyn: you should use ext4 i think, at least ogra says it's fast and reliable May 25 21:13:18 and marvins kernel should support it by default May 25 21:13:26 ok. i guess my ext4 woes are usually on fast smp. n/a May 25 23:19:55 persia: oh no, was i not supposed to update? it's now complaning that plymouth couldn't upgrade, which is preventing me from installing other things in need **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu May 26 02:59:57 2011