**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 14 02:59:57 2011 Jun 14 03:19:58 NCommand1r: Is "There is no default kernel flavour defined for your architecture." on Kubuntu images something I need to worry about of a general problem that will go away soonish? Jun 14 04:56:54 sweet. ubuntu wifi working without having to login Jun 14 04:56:59 fires up on boot Jun 14 07:54:49 Good morning/afternoon/evening Jun 14 07:55:52 What was the reasoning then i2c bus 2 was not added to arm kernel for Ubuntu? Jun 14 07:56:04 s/then/when/ Jun 14 07:58:40 for Beagleboard ofc Jun 14 08:49:28 ScottK, thats fallout of the switch to the new live rootfs build system Jun 14 08:49:42 ScottK, i got it too for our images Jun 14 09:57:12 upowerd constantly keeps stealing my USB serial adapter which I connect to my target. Is there anyone here who knows a fix for that? Jun 14 09:59:06 funny, never heard of such probs Jun 14 10:01:01 sveinse, I found some USB micro host cables: http://www.henj.in/ : they seem physically correct, although apparently my device with micro doesn't support HOST mode. Jun 14 10:02:04 (no it's not listed on the website, but really I bought some from them) Jun 14 10:05:31 ehlo earthlings! Jun 14 10:05:50 If I find a bug (heaven forbid) in one of the oneiric daily builds Jun 14 10:05:53 do I file a bug? Jun 14 10:05:56 And if so, where? Jun 14 10:06:00 Please. Jun 14 10:06:20 I'm about to test the oneiric headless OMAP 4 on a fresh pandaboard. Jun 14 10:06:21 `ubuntu-bug ${best-guess-at-package-name}` running on the affected system. Jun 14 10:06:22 :) Jun 14 10:06:29 persia: Thanks. :-) Jun 14 10:06:56 Extra points for including the fix with the bug submission :) Jun 14 10:14:28 heh Jun 14 10:22:02 oneiric on panda... Jun 14 10:22:06 works fine for me Jun 14 10:27:24 dpkg: ostrzeżenie: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 33305 package 'x-loader-omap4': error in Version string 'L24.9git20100901-0ubuntu5': version number does not start with digit Jun 14 10:32:25 hrw: mogą chłopaki ostrzeżenia nie zrozumieć :-) Jun 14 10:33:20 garagoth: second part is understandable Jun 14 10:44:11 jeremiah: persia: ubuntu-bug is not installed on headless, so you will need to install it. Jun 14 11:04:26 GrueMaster, Oh, hm. Right. Jun 14 11:15:52 Does someone care about debian-cd and debian-installer support for imx51 based on RedBoot (redboot-tools)? Jun 14 11:16:26 I'd like to remove the scripts, configs and build-deps in debian-installer's tip and in debian-cd's oneiric tree Jun 14 11:17:25 just drop it Jun 14 11:17:33 Thanks Jun 14 11:19:55 GrueMaster: Thanks, good to know. :) Jun 14 11:28:29 GrueMaster, did you try a dist-upgrade on oneiric in recent times ? Jun 14 11:29:02 * ogra_ has the feeling upgrades of gnome-user-guide got much much worse in 11.10 Jun 14 11:29:12 its taking like 25min here Jun 14 11:32:36 has anyone run Ubuntu 11.04 on PandaBoard Rev A2 with success? Jun 14 11:32:59 I spent all night last night trying to boot ubuntu, with practicly no results Jun 14 11:33:35 I have managed to get console surring by changing bootargs in boot.scr, but I always get some errors in one point of instalation of 10.10 and I have also tried with 11.04 but it hangs where the graphics should be initiated Jun 14 11:35:41 I have tried some tricks from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAPMaverickInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OmapNetbook but still no luck Jun 14 11:35:58 ogra_: I just finished dist-upgrade oneiric->oneiric on a1 panda Jun 14 11:36:29 did you get an update of g-u-d ? Jun 14 11:36:39 probably not have it installed Jun 14 11:36:51 ah Jun 14 11:37:02 well, the update works just fine Jun 14 11:37:02 yep. uninstalled state Jun 14 11:37:22 but it takes like 25-30 min to unpack an update to gnome-user-docs Jun 14 11:37:32 btw - do we want armhf cross toolchain for armel? Jun 14 11:37:48 that used to be under 10min ... which is still long but more bearable Jun 14 11:38:09 hrw, is there a usecase for it ? Jun 14 11:38:14 what it does on upgrade? recompilation of every format etc? Jun 14 11:38:21 i.e. do yu expect people to build for hf on el ? Jun 14 11:38:34 ogra_: just got asked once for it so why not ask here Jun 14 11:38:38 it doesnt do anything but inpack its contents Jun 14 11:38:47 there are no postinst preinst scripts at all Jun 14 11:38:53 *unpack Jun 14 11:38:56 I think that armhf people can do chroot of debian one Jun 14 11:39:32 well, i dont see a rel benefit for such a cross toolchain but others might feel different Jun 14 11:39:54 ~51MB of data in g-u-g Jun 14 11:39:58 if i want hf i will build on an hf install Jun 14 11:40:03 yes, its huge Jun 14 11:40:35 ~6k files Jun 14 11:40:48 you have / on sd? Jun 14 11:40:59 well, emmc, but yes Jun 14 11:41:14 still it took less than half the time with natty Jun 14 11:41:24 (same kernel) Jun 14 11:41:27 had less files? Jun 14 11:41:32 might be Jun 14 11:41:43 6k files + sd == problems Jun 14 11:41:50 i wonder if we should ship it anyway ... in times of unity :) Jun 14 11:42:04 well, probelms i didnt have with the older userspace Jun 14 11:42:05 unity? I do not use it ;D Jun 14 11:42:21 well, ubuntu doesnt use much of gnome anymore either Jun 14 11:42:46 i know that you dont use it :) Jun 14 11:42:48 1-2 years ago I was joking that I am waiting for GUbuntu - now it exists Jun 14 11:42:49 ;D Jun 14 11:43:01 does it ? Jun 14 11:43:14 * ogra_ didnt know someone started that Jun 14 11:43:20 I thought that someone did it Jun 14 11:43:33 ogra_: I haven't done any oneiric image testing in a couple of weeks. Last week was getting benchmarking started and several other tasks. Jun 14 11:44:07 GrueMaster, yeah, i thought so ... too many other tasks Jun 14 11:44:29 That and the images were very unstable after alpha 1. Jun 14 11:44:33 yup Jun 14 11:44:41 ogra_: http://ugr.teampr0xy.net/ Jun 14 11:45:07 The system includes both GNOME 3 and a fallback to a classic GNOME interface as of 0.1.0. Jun 14 11:46:44 lunch time Jun 14 11:46:51 hrw, heh, funny Jun 14 11:51:48 lool, is there any ubuntu armhf rootfs tarball anywhere ? (or at least a repo) ? Jun 14 11:52:03 (i know about the debian image but thats not what i look for) Jun 14 11:52:40 ogra_: there's debian-ports.org, you can debootstrap from it; no Ubuntu debootstrapable repo yet, albeit we're working on it Jun 14 11:52:49 k Jun 14 12:08:12 ogra_: Would you know which Ubuntu releases had debian-cd-backed imx51 images? Jun 14 12:08:31 I will remove the scripts from oneiric, but dunno how far back I can remove -- natty? maverick? lucid? Jun 14 12:10:43 hmm, not sure if maverick still had it, lucid definitely did Jun 14 12:16:28 ogra_: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/10.04/release/ lists an mx51 image, but not http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/10.10/release/ Jun 14 12:16:34 ogra_: does that mean I can kill it for maverick? Jun 14 12:16:40 worst case, it can be resurrected from bzr history Jun 14 12:16:56 also, we wont release any updated maverick image in theory (not like LTS where we have .1, .2 etc.) Jun 14 12:16:57 i dont think we'll ever re-roll imx51 images anyway Jun 14 12:16:59 er, once i boot the oneiric image, what username and password do i need to give? Jun 14 12:17:25 brendand, the one you gave it during the oem-config installer Jun 14 12:17:54 lool, just remove it ... i'll blame you if we ever re-roll maverick images :P Jun 14 12:17:54 ogra_ - didn't go through that step... Jun 14 12:18:07 brendand, sounds like a bug with the daily images Jun 14 12:18:27 file it :) Jun 14 12:18:54 ogra_ - any idea where? Jun 14 12:18:56 lool, also note that lucid for arm is only 18months Jun 14 12:19:34 brendand, see the topic ... file it against live-build ... Jun 14 12:19:48 (if it is todays image, else the bug is somewhere else) Jun 14 12:20:28 ogra_: Still, we keep the scripts of released images in subdirs Jun 14 12:20:43 i know Jun 14 12:20:50 but I'd like to avoid carrying them in oneiric, oneiric+1 etc. and I took the occasion to strip them of releases they weren't used in Jun 14 12:20:57 anyway, removed now Jun 14 12:21:10 * ppisati wonders how long does it take to compile a kernel on a panda... Jun 14 12:21:28 lool, thanks for doing all that mopping up :) Jun 14 12:21:49 ppisati: You have acces to both, test it. :P Jun 14 12:22:07 ppisati, in ac100 the ac100 kernel package takes me about 1.5-2h ... (that doesnt build docs or debug) Jun 14 12:22:11 GrueMaster: i was sarcastic, i'm doing it right now... Jun 14 12:22:17 so fat... Jun 14 12:22:18 ops Jun 14 12:22:21 far Jun 14 12:22:32 1h20mins and still going... Jun 14 12:22:36 on panda a kernel package build should take about the same plus the time it takes to build any additional bits (docs headers ddebs) Jun 14 12:22:51 :( Jun 14 12:23:00 ogra_: np; next step is demoting redboot-tools and redboot-imx51-babbage Jun 14 12:23:03 or whatever it's called Jun 14 12:23:10 demoting ? Jun 14 12:23:17 just rip them out :) Jun 14 12:23:36 they will just bit-rot otherwise Jun 14 12:24:22 I thought redboot-tools was in Debian but apparently not; I agree with removal, I'm fine either way Jun 14 12:24:47 better remove ... if they are ever needed back or so we can re-vive them still Jun 14 12:24:48 there is a small chance that redboot-tools is useful to some, albeit I can't think of a modern armv7 platform which uses redboot Jun 14 12:24:56 maybe if we rebuild Ubuntu for v5 Jun 14 12:25:08 well, then they can come back Jun 14 12:25:14 the branches still exist Jun 14 12:25:18 I could flip your argument the other way around ;-) Jun 14 12:25:26 better keep, less work than pushing them back ;-) Jun 14 12:25:29 sure, if you feel like :P Jun 14 12:25:40 but who eill maintain them :) Jun 14 12:25:41 I don't think I care, albeit I do care that they get demoted out of main Jun 14 12:59:43 around 2 hours Jun 14 12:59:55 that's what it takes to compile a natty kernel on a panda + usb disk Jun 14 13:01:35 yeah, about the same on ac100 Jun 14 13:01:50 ogra_: do you compile it on the internal flash? Jun 14 13:01:56 yes Jun 14 13:02:05 everything else needs patience Jun 14 13:02:12 doesn't it wear out quickly? Jun 14 13:02:33 dunno, mine didnt since oct being my main work device Jun 14 13:02:37 ok Jun 14 13:03:01 might make it wear out in 4 years instead of 5 i guess Jun 14 13:03:24 dunno, i thought it would die much sooner Jun 14 13:03:27 or so ... Jun 14 13:04:07 well, its true that swapping and lots of RW reduce the life cycle ... but that doesnt mean it dies tomorrow if you start today Jun 14 13:04:33 i've been badly impressed by a couple of sd i bought Jun 14 13:04:48 by wearing them out ? Jun 14 13:04:49 they died really quickly (2 months or so) Jun 14 13:05:01 i think so, since then i moved to a usb disk Jun 14 13:05:10 * ogra_ is working with tiny laptops since 4 years now, i managed to wear out exactly one usb stick Jun 14 13:05:43 i have never worn out an SD ... Jun 14 13:06:03 even though i do myriads of install tests since several years with them Jun 14 13:06:08 then perhaps mine were crap, but i feel a bit uncomfortable compiling a kernel on a flash device Jun 14 13:06:42 well, if you use the ac100, the MMC is the fastest disk option Jun 14 13:06:47 faster than USb Jun 14 13:07:02 definitely i'll use that Jun 14 13:07:05 and faster than external SD Jun 14 13:10:09 and i can confirm you that we lost usb on omap4 too Jun 14 13:10:23 both native compilation or cross Jun 14 13:10:23 Yea. :( Jun 14 13:13:27 who needs USB as long as we have a shiny new version number on your compiler suite Jun 14 13:14:09 s/your/our/ Jun 14 13:14:54 yesterday i rolled a new 4.6 toolchain using the devian packages Jun 14 13:15:06 let's see if i can reproduce it there Jun 14 13:15:12 debian Jun 14 13:15:21 (today i have a problem with my beayboard) Jun 14 13:15:25 ... Jun 14 13:15:31 keyboard Jun 14 13:21:02 latest linaro .39 kernel has it too Jun 14 13:22:17 thats a good indicator Jun 14 13:25:49 let's see with the debian cross toolchain now Jun 14 14:01:13 and it's there with the debian toolchain too Jun 14 14:01:14 uhm Jun 14 14:09:24 ppisati, not surprising Jun 14 14:20:52 ogra_: actually it doesn't show the sda even with the 4.5.x toolchain Jun 14 14:21:06 ogra_: i wonder if it's an unrelated issue Jun 14 14:24:52 oh, you didnt say 4.5 Jun 14 14:25:41 ogra_: i'm trying all the combinations Jun 14 14:25:56 at last i thought "did i try this with 4.5? uhmm..." Jun 14 14:58:57 hmm, no love from canonical Jun 14 15:19:05 ScottK: which architecture speciically? Jun 14 15:19:24 NCommand1r: It was omap and omap4. Jun 14 15:20:16 ScottK: and where did that error pop up? (sounds like the installer ...) Jun 14 15:20:36 NCommand1r: IIRC it was the ISO build failure mail. Jun 14 15:24:14 cjwatson doing the footwork to change us over to live-helper, probably a few hiccups here and there Jun 14 15:28:55 Probably. Just wanted to check and make sure. Jun 14 15:50:48 ScottK, already fixed Jun 14 15:51:15 ogra_: Thanks. Jun 14 17:28:14 hello, i just downloaded ubuntu 11.04 on a sd card for my beagleboard xM. however, it booted into command line, instead of the unity gui...how do i get unity to show up? Jun 14 17:28:30 beagleboarduser, but you used the netbook image ? Jun 14 17:29:14 i got the image from this website: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/release/ Jun 14 17:29:17 is that wrong? Jun 14 17:29:28 no, thats fine, but which one ? Jun 14 17:30:02 the Omap3 preinstalled netbook image. Jun 14 17:30:28 this was the name: ubuntu-11.04-preinstalled-netbook-armel+omap.img.gz Jun 14 17:31:02 that should be fine Jun 14 17:31:24 and you dont see the installer on your hdmi display after booting ? Jun 14 17:31:57 no, it had the "ubuntu" image with the purple background. it said something about resizing install image, then it suddenly put me in the command line Jun 14 17:32:03 i didn't get any options to make an account, etc. Jun 14 17:32:15 it should have rebooted at the end of the resizing Jun 14 17:32:59 ok. should i restart it from the commandline (at the very top it said "No init found. Try passing init = boot" or something similar) Jun 14 17:33:01 probably you got a broken install and busybox came up Jun 14 17:33:13 yeah, sd card issues Jun 14 17:33:35 could be that your dd got broken in the process or your sd card doesn't work as expected with your beagle Jun 14 17:33:38 yeah, busybox showed up...broken install already? wow, i didn't even start with ubuntu yet, this must be a record :/ Jun 14 17:33:54 how did you put the image on the sd ? Jun 14 17:34:19 did you follow the ubuntu install instructions (linked from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAP) Jun 14 17:34:24 i put my 16 gb card into my laptop card reader, clicked on "unmount", then used the commandline given in the install instructions Jun 14 17:34:56 yep, i used the gunzip one (gunzip -c ubuntu-11.04-preinstalled-netbook-armel+.img.gz | sudo dd bs=4M of=/dev/), but i changed the requisite things Jun 14 17:35:20 omap.img.gz, and then /dev/mmcblk0 Jun 14 17:35:25 well, that line should be fine Jun 14 17:36:16 I have one sd card that I usually get the same issue you got Jun 14 17:36:28 never worked with ubuntu images Jun 14 17:36:44 ah that's a bummer....so i need another sd card? Jun 14 17:36:53 maybe, try dd again Jun 14 17:37:12 ok, how should i clear the files already on the card? Jun 14 17:37:21 dd will do that Jun 14 17:37:34 er...what is dd? Jun 14 17:37:45 (sorry for my beginner-esque questions... :) ) Jun 14 17:37:55 see what you pasted above :) Jun 14 17:38:11 gunzip -c ubuntu-11.04-preinstalled-netbook-armel+.img.gz | sudo dd bs=4M of=/dev/ Jun 14 17:38:22 dd is the second command on that line :) Jun 14 17:38:33 or "sudo dd" Jun 14 17:38:55 haha, oops, i missed that, it looked like another option to my eye, thanks! Jun 14 17:39:31 the | connects the output of the first command to the input of the second one Jun 14 17:40:17 ok, got it Jun 14 17:40:26 i'll try the "dd" again, hopefully it'll work Jun 14 17:42:27 lool, oh, regarding your mx5/efika stuff that was mentioned on the debian-arm ML, do you plan to pull that soon into debian (i still have a pending merge for flash-kernel in oneiric adn was wondering if i should wait for that) Jun 14 17:43:53 flag@omap:~$ cat /proc/version_signature Jun 14 17:43:54 Ubuntu 2.6.38-1208.11-omap4 2.6.38.2 Jun 14 17:43:54 flag@omap:~$ ifconfig eth0 Jun 14 17:43:54 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:01:04:1b:2c:1f inet addr:192.168.0.65 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::201:4ff:fe1b:2c1f/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1492 Metric:1 RX packets:10 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:17 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:1056 (1.0 KB) TX bytes:1992 (1.9 KB) Jun 14 17:43:59 flag@omap:~$ lsmod Jun 14 17:44:02 Module Size Used by Jun 14 17:44:04 sg 21574 0 Jun 14 17:44:07 wl12xx 90763 1 wl12xx_sdio Jun 14 17:44:09 wl12xx_sdio 3044 0 Jun 14 17:44:12 btsdio 2816 0 Jun 14 17:45:11 unloaded all the modules but eth0 is still there Jun 14 17:46:19 yeah, looks ok Jun 14 17:46:37 flag@omap:~$ dmesg | grep smsc Jun 14 17:46:37 [ 2.744903] usbcore: registered new interface driver smsc95xx Jun 14 17:46:37 [ 3.920196] smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0: usb_probe_interface Jun 14 17:46:37 [ 3.920196] smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0: usb_probe_interface - got id Jun 14 17:46:37 [ 3.920227] smsc95xx v1.0.4 Jun 14 17:46:39 [ 4.001525] smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0: eth0: register 'smsc95xx' at usb-ehci-omap.0-1.1, smsc95xx USB 2.0 Ethernet, 2e:40:70:f0:12:06 Jun 14 17:46:42 [ 62.695220] smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0: eth0: kevent 4 may have been dropped Jun 14 17:46:48 [flag@newluxor canonical]$ grep -i smsc ubuntu-natty/debian/build/build-omap4/.config Jun 14 17:46:51 CONFIG_SENSORS_SMSC47B397=m Jun 14 17:46:53 CONFIG_SENSORS_SMSC47M1=m Jun 14 17:46:56 CONFIG_SENSORS_SMSC47M192=m Jun 14 17:46:58 CONFIG_SMSC911X=m Jun 14 17:47:01 # CONFIG_SMSC911X_ARCH_HOOKS is not set Jun 14 17:47:03 CONFIG_SMSC_PHY=m Jun 14 17:47:06 # CONFIG_USB_NET_SMSC75XX is not set Jun 14 17:47:08 CONFIG_USB_NET_SMSC95XX=y Jun 14 17:47:13 NCommand1r: can't you break into initrd? Jun 14 17:47:21 i know there was an option... Jun 14 17:47:38 d-i has a terminal running on tty4, shouldnt be a prob Jun 14 17:48:01 ah, didn't know Jun 14 17:48:22 (debian-installer actually *is* your initrd :) ) Jun 14 17:48:41 ah right, it's an installation scenario Jun 14 17:48:53 right Jun 14 17:49:41 Texas Instruments X-Loader 1.5.0 (Apr 11 2011 - 09:48:22) Jun 14 17:49:44 U-Boot 2011.03 (Apr 20 2011 - 07:37:43) Jun 14 17:51:13 back, sorry Jun 14 17:51:31 ppisati: something that is a m should be a y or listed in the proper udeb Jun 14 17:51:49 NCommand1r, SMSC95XX isnt m Jun 14 17:52:00 and eth0 is there for him apparently Jun 14 17:52:14 ogra_: well I don't have ifconfig in the preboot enviornent Jun 14 17:52:21 NCommand1r, can you capture dmesg in d-i and paste that somewhere ? Jun 14 17:52:32 NCommand1r, cat /proc/net/dev Jun 14 17:52:40 /lib/modules/2.6.38-1208-omap4/kernel/net # cat /proc/net/dev Jun 14 17:52:40 Inter-| Receive | Transmit Jun 14 17:52:40 face |bytes packets errs drop fifo frame compressed multicast|bytes packets errs drop fifo colls carrier compressed Jun 14 17:52:42 should show you all interfaces the kernel knows Jun 14 17:52:43 lo: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Jun 14 17:52:55 thats inside d-i ? Jun 14 17:52:58 yeah Jun 14 17:53:06 unbelivable ... Jun 14 17:53:17 hw version? Jun 14 17:53:31 does the kernel-image.udeb use some special config or some such ? Jun 14 17:54:03 * ogra_ doesnt get it ... eth0 should definitely be there Jun 14 17:55:31 ogra_: nope, its the same old vmlinuz Jun 14 17:55:33 any trace in dmesg about smc ? Jun 14 17:55:41 /lib/modules/2.6.38-1208-omap4/kernel/net # dmesg | grep smc Jun 14 17:55:41 /lib/modules/2.6.38-1208-omap4/kernel/net # Jun 14 17:55:51 well, "same old" ... Jun 14 17:56:16 NCommand1r: do you heate zcat? Jun 14 17:56:18 have Jun 14 17:56:23 zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i smsc Jun 14 17:56:30 flag@omap:~$ zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i smsc Jun 14 17:56:30 CONFIG_SENSORS_SMSC47B397=m Jun 14 17:56:30 CONFIG_SENSORS_SMSC47M1=m Jun 14 17:56:30 CONFIG_SENSORS_SMSC47M192=m Jun 14 17:56:30 CONFIG_SMSC911X=m Jun 14 17:56:33 # CONFIG_SMSC911X_ARCH_HOOKS is not set Jun 14 17:56:35 CONFIG_SMSC_PHY=m Jun 14 17:56:38 # CONFIG_USB_NET_SMSC75XX is not set Jun 14 17:56:39 ppisati: same Jun 14 17:56:40 CONFIG_USB_NET_SMSC95XX=y Jun 14 17:56:42 ppisati, ugh, that should definitely be disabled in paclkaged kernels Jun 14 17:56:43 that's running config Jun 14 17:57:03 ogra_: really? Jun 14 17:57:10 NCommand1r: and you have it Jun 14 17:57:26 ppisati, yes, by design we ship a text fuile with the config in /boot Jun 14 17:57:35 s/design/default Jun 14 17:57:36 at this point, if you have CONFIG_USB_NET_SMSC95XX=y then it could be a: Jun 14 17:57:47 -different hw rev Jun 14 17:57:59 -faulty hw? Jun 14 17:58:12 because in the kernel boot you should have it Jun 14 17:58:17 userspace is not involved Jun 14 17:58:35 i mean, perhaps someone could "delete it" later but when the kernel bootas Jun 14 17:58:43 should recognize/probe it Jun 14 17:58:51 sorry, what is the main issue here? Jun 14 17:58:52 argument passed via boot.scr? Jun 14 17:59:05 rsalveti, debina-installer Jun 14 17:59:05 rsalveti: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ti-omap4/+bug/796892 Jun 14 17:59:07 Ubuntu bug 796892 in linux-ti-omap4 "OMAP4 kernel udebs don't include NIC drivers" [High,Confirmed] Jun 14 17:59:30 unrealted to that problem the bug is ture though Jun 14 17:59:53 there should be a ton of NIC drivers in the udeb for anything you can potentially attach via USB Jun 14 18:00:10 but the actual problem doesnt seem to be udeb related Jun 14 18:00:10 ogra_: its a panda shipped out of the box from davidm Jun 14 18:00:23 NCommand1r: and you just got it? Jun 14 18:00:44 two weeks ago Jun 14 18:00:48 ppisati: with just a uImage (without modules) can you get the interface? Jun 14 18:01:02 rsalveti: if it's builtin i think so Jun 14 18:01:14 rsalveti: i don't have any module loaded to get eth0 Jun 14 18:02:21 should be this one: Jun 14 18:02:23 Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0424:9514 Standard Microsystems Corp. Jun 14 18:02:24 Device Descriptor: bLength 18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 2.00 bDeviceClass 9 Hub bDeviceSubClass 0 Unused bDeviceProtocol 2 TT per port bMaxPacketSize0 64 idVendor 0x0424 Standard Microsystems Corp. idProduct 0x9514 bcdDevice 2.00 Jun 14 18:02:29 ppisati: lets approach this another way, do you want to try booting the netboot installer image I'm using and see if you get ethernet? Jun 14 18:02:29 ops Jun 14 18:02:29 wait, pastebin Jun 14 18:02:41 NCommand1r: yeah, give it to me Jun 14 18:02:43 ppisati: http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/oneiric/main/installer-armel/current/images/omap4/netboot/ Jun 14 18:02:57 I'm using boot.img-seiral Jun 14 18:03:10 NCommand1r, did you ask colin already, probably we're overseeing something obvious Jun 14 18:03:47 (though i couldnt imagine what) Jun 14 18:04:21 NCommand1r: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/626724/ Jun 14 18:04:25 NCommand1r: should be this one Jun 14 18:05:31 bDeviceClass 9 Hub Jun 14 18:05:32 ?? Jun 14 18:05:38 thats surely not the NIC Jun 14 18:05:50 idProduct 0x9514 Jun 14 18:05:53 isn't it? Jun 14 18:06:08 ppisati: I don't have lsusb in the installer enviornent Jun 14 18:06:14 NCommand1r: ok Jun 14 18:06:19 not sure, but there should be a wlan entry too Jun 14 18:06:26 yep Jun 14 18:06:39 NCommand1r: do i dd the image to a sd? Jun 14 18:06:46 yes Jun 14 18:11:14 ok Jun 14 18:11:20 tty4? Jun 14 18:11:36 anyway Jun 14 18:12:12 could be tty3 ... its a while ago that i used d-i Jun 14 18:12:43 how do i switch to it? Jun 14 18:12:49 serial console Jun 14 18:13:08 heh Jun 14 18:13:15 screwed ... :P Jun 14 18:13:21 anyway Jun 14 18:13:32 it said "network auto configuration ok" Jun 14 18:13:37 or something like that Jun 14 18:13:38 ... Jun 14 18:13:41 so its something with my panda Jun 14 18:13:42 Great Jun 14 18:13:42 heh Jun 14 18:13:49 wait Jun 14 18:13:52 execute a shell Jun 14 18:13:57 ah Jun 14 18:14:04 yeah, you can get one from the menu Jun 14 18:14:20 ASD! :) Jun 14 18:14:24 ~ # cat /proc/net/dev Jun 14 18:14:24 Inter-| Receive | Transmit Jun 14 18:14:24 face |bytes packets errs drop fifo frame compressed multicast|bytes packets errs drop fifo colls carrier compressed Jun 14 18:14:27 lo: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Jun 14 18:14:30 eth0: 4311 21 0 0 0 0 0 0 3030 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 Jun 14 18:14:33 ~ # Jun 14 18:14:33 aha Jun 14 18:14:35 different hw or faulty Jun 14 18:14:36 angstrom linux is supposed to work well with the beagleboard xM, right? How come it keeps freezing whenever I want to record audio in? Jun 14 18:14:46 i guess rather new HW revision Jun 14 18:14:52 could be Jun 14 18:15:04 beagleboarduser, thats a question for ä# Jun 14 18:15:07 NCommand1r: can you find your hw revision/ Jun 14 18:15:08 ? Jun 14 18:15:10 grrrmpf Jun 14 18:15:14 beagleboarduser, thats a question for Jun 14 18:15:19 #beagle Jun 14 18:15:22 whoa, didn't know that existed Jun 14 18:15:43 * ogra_ has days where he hates his kdb Jun 14 18:15:46 ah, ok, i'll try that. also, ogra_, do you know whom I can ask for audio help in beagleboard? Jun 14 18:15:48 or it hates me Jun 14 18:16:19 * ppisati -> shower and then concert+beer :) Jun 14 18:16:21 later guys Jun 14 18:16:24 beagleboarduser, not really, usually GrueMaster tries to attack audio probs, but he is travelling this week Jun 14 18:16:34 ppisati, enjoy the concert ! Jun 14 18:16:58 ah, ok. that's fine. thank you for the help though! Jun 14 18:17:27 ppisati: how do I do that Jun 14 18:17:57 NCommand1r, well, i'd start with inspecting /proc/cpuinfo ... then dmesg ... Jun 14 18:18:06 Hardware : OMAP4 Panda board Jun 14 18:18:06 Revision : 0020 Jun 14 18:18:35 A2 i guess Jun 14 18:18:57 anyone else here have an A2 board that can test? Jun 14 18:19:21 NCommand1r, probably ndec knows if there were USB related silicon changes between A1 and A2 ... Jun 14 18:19:32 though prpplague might too Jun 14 18:19:45 ^- ndec prpplague Jun 14 18:20:18 * ogra_ goes for dinner ... bye Jun 14 18:22:33 * prpplague looks in Jun 14 18:22:54 ogra_: no changes to my knowledge Jun 14 18:22:59 ogra_: i can verify that Jun 14 18:25:36 does anyone else here have an A2 panda who can test? Jun 14 18:44:21 * prpplague reads back Jun 14 18:44:28 what kind of issues are you finding? Jun 14 20:10:54 what is the difference between ARMv6, ARMv6L and ARM6J ? Jun 14 20:21:59 MrBIOS, Support for different instructions (none are supported in Ubuntu). Jun 14 20:25:37 "none are supported in ubuntu" is a silly statement Jun 14 20:25:42 the OS doesn't "support" instructions Jun 14 20:25:54 I think what you mean is "ubuntu doesn't build armv6 optimized binaries, at present" Jun 14 20:26:17 (including the kernel) Jun 14 20:34:02 I mean that the instructions used in Ubuntu (including the kernel) cannot be executed on ARMv6 processors, that the default compiler settings enforce this, and that much of the porting effort has been done in Debian targeting ARMv5 or Ubuntu targeting ARMv7, with the result that complex build scripts may not even recognise the existence of ARMv6 for some packages. Jun 14 20:34:46 Actually, Debian targets ARMv4, but I've seen a few v4/v5 things in packages imported from Debian and otherwise without changes. Jun 14 20:36:54 Note also that the vast majority of packages are actually compiled to produce Thumb-2 code, which is a completely different ISA than the ARM* set (although it tends to be supported on hardware that supports ARMv7a) Jun 14 21:21:47 how do you control the default gpio exports so that you don't have to do echo "" to the export file each time Jun 14 21:23:04 do I have to write a kernel module to call gpio export at boot? Jun 14 21:24:21 ? Jun 14 21:24:27 like putting the echos rc.local ? Jun 14 21:24:29 +in Jun 14 21:25:14 well I'm running into a race condition where I am putting it in rc.local but my app which runs in userspace doesn't see it Jun 14 21:26:14 and does /etc/modules get loaded before /etc/rc.local? Jun 14 21:28:18 i'd guess so Jun 14 22:09:24 How do kernel upgrades work in ubuntu arm? Is there anything special that needs to be done, or is it just a matter of having a boot partition mounted to allow Ubuntu to copy in a new kernel for u-boot? Jun 14 22:10:33 FWIW, I have a beagleboard. Jun 14 22:15:29 Gracana: WHen the kernel is updated, it will call flash-kernel to make the kernel bootable. If you started with an Ubuntu image, and are just updating/installing, then it just updates for the next boot. Jun 14 22:15:54 If you're booting from flash, or similar arrangements, the implementation in flash-kernel may not do what you expect. Jun 14 22:17:59 Okay, interesting. The beagleboard has capabilities to boot from flash, but I can also boot from mmc, so I guess that is the way to go. Jun 14 22:18:37 The distributed images boot from MMC by default. Jun 14 22:18:58 This was considered easier to handle than attemtping to deal with unknown bootloaders in flash for a first-time install. Jun 14 22:19:33 (mind you, if you have an interest, and want to find a way to try to detect how a given board was booted, and do the right thing, I'm sure others would appreciate the patches) Jun 14 22:28:26 Hah, that would be very nice, but unfortunately I have other things to work on. Jun 14 22:29:54 Heh :) In that case, I recommend to boot from MMC. Jun 14 22:31:17 Yeah, that sounds good to me. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jun 15 02:59:57 2011