**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jun 22 02:59:57 2011 Jun 22 06:01:37 Hi hello I want ubuntu 10.04 arm926 how to make from scratch Jun 22 06:01:51 any one help me Jun 22 06:42:25 I want ubuntu 10.04 arm926 Jun 22 06:42:33 how to do it? Jun 22 06:42:48 I am trying with rootstock Jun 22 06:43:39 dhana013: ARM926 is ARMv5, Ubuntu only supports ARMv7 at this point. Jun 22 06:44:16 dhana013: So, you either need to be prepared to replace the toolchain and literally rebuild the entire archive (ouch), use an older release that supported ARMv5, or perhaps use Debian? Jun 22 06:51:34 thanks for u r information Jun 22 08:49:06 rsalveti: super, thanks Jun 22 10:24:03 morning Jun 22 10:25:08 i am using ubuntu 11.04 headless on my pandaboard. I need a console on monitor+mouse+keyboard instead of 115200 serial. Any help? Jun 22 10:25:28 Need i to modify boot script? Jun 22 10:25:36 it will fire up tty logins after the configuration is done Jun 22 10:26:46 so if you can do your configuration on serial it should already do what you want after that Jun 22 10:27:18 i would to have console on my dvi-d external monitor instead serial terminal Jun 22 10:27:32 if you actually *need* oem-config on a framebuffer you indeed need to modify the cmdline a bit Jun 22 10:28:06 ok, you mean the cmd line at the boot prompt? Jun 22 10:28:17 but beyond that, only the first boot config actually requires serial in the default configuration Jun 22 10:28:49 i mean you need to edits boot.scr of the virgin, unbooted image Jun 22 10:28:53 *edit Jun 22 10:29:10 ok Jun 22 10:29:27 is there a guide to help this edit? Jun 22 10:29:45 somewhere in the ubuntu wiki i think Jun 22 10:29:56 ok, thank you ogra_ Jun 22 10:30:12 look at the subpages of /ARM/OMAP on wiki.ubuntu.com Jun 22 10:30:55 but if i were you i would just go with the default, do the first boot config on serial and then use the monitor Jun 22 10:32:14 sorry but i am just noob about these stuff. How can i use monitor after first boot? Jun 22 10:32:52 there will be a login prompt on your screen, you just log in Jun 22 10:33:04 ehm, no there isn't Jun 22 10:33:50 you already created the user and set the timezone etc ? Jun 22 10:34:07 yep the machine is running Jun 22 10:34:16 did you reboot since ? Jun 22 10:34:20 yep Jun 22 10:34:28 with the monitor plugged in ? Jun 22 10:34:29 and i see the boot menu on serial console Jun 22 10:34:34 yep Jun 22 10:34:37 boot menu ? Jun 22 10:34:47 hit any key to stop auto-boot Jun 22 10:34:53 3 2 1... Jun 22 10:35:01 ah Jun 22 10:35:24 so it boots to a login prompt on the serial console ? Jun 22 10:35:30 yep Jun 22 10:35:46 i see che serial config inside boot.script Jun 22 10:36:09 ps ax|grep getty Jun 22 10:36:30 do you see getty's running on the differnt tty's ? Jun 22 10:37:03 it should list tty1 to 6 Jun 22 10:37:17 ogra_: http://ideone.com/n7GoA Jun 22 10:37:51 so there are login prompts running on your ttys Jun 22 10:38:28 are you sure your monitor is connected correctly ? Jun 22 10:38:43 i think yes Jun 22 10:39:55 the monitor has dvi-d interface Jun 22 10:40:01 well, there should be no reason that you dont see a login prompt on your screen Jun 22 10:40:09 so i'm using a dvi-d/hdmi A cable Jun 22 10:40:22 and you connected to which socket ? Jun 22 10:40:28 the external one Jun 22 10:40:42 on the panda, to which graphics port did you connect ? Jun 22 10:40:51 the external port Jun 22 10:40:55 there are two ports Jun 22 10:41:00 one near ethernet cable Jun 22 10:41:01 there is a hdmi and a dvi one Jun 22 10:41:03 and one external Jun 22 10:41:08 they are labeled Jun 22 10:41:09 dvi one Jun 22 10:41:28 did you try the other one ? Jun 22 10:41:44 nope because the label says: DVI-D and i'm using a DVI-D cable Jun 22 10:41:52 i try Jun 22 10:43:04 now is working Jun 22 10:43:09 :) Jun 22 10:43:09 thank you ogra_ Jun 22 10:43:23 why? Jun 22 10:43:30 i followed the tag on the board Jun 22 10:44:31 nice thank you ogra_ Jun 22 10:45:24 i saw inside boot script that the ram is limited to 512M Jun 22 10:45:33 why? Jun 22 10:45:38 it isnt Jun 22 10:45:41 check with free Jun 22 10:46:02 there is a reserved memory area for the dicati engine Jun 22 10:46:06 *ducati Jun 22 10:46:09 ah ok Jun 22 10:46:15 and ducati engine is? Jun 22 10:46:19 starting at 512m Jun 22 10:46:39 ducati does all the multimedia processing Jun 22 10:46:45 ah cool Jun 22 10:46:48 thank you Jun 22 11:01:55 i like the ducati monster carbon black Jun 22 11:01:58 * ppisati hides... Jun 22 11:01:59 :) Jun 22 11:02:20 the one that MacSlow has ? Jun 22 11:02:26 who? Jun 22 11:02:37 MacSlow from the DX team Jun 22 11:02:43 i think he drives one Jun 22 11:02:50 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ducati_Monster_620_Dark.jpg Jun 22 11:03:17 i think thats the one, not 100% sure Jun 22 11:03:40 cool, i like it :) Jun 22 11:04:59 ogra_: btw, any updates on the ac100 image? Jun 22 11:05:20 ogra_: shall i bring mine to dublin? so you can see where the installatin fails? Jun 22 11:05:20 just rolling a new kernel package Jun 22 11:05:27 yes pleas Jun 22 11:05:28 e Jun 22 11:05:29 ok Jun 22 11:05:43 what model was that ? Jun 22 11:05:46 10Z ? Jun 22 11:05:46 wai Jun 22 11:05:47 t Jun 22 11:06:03 yep Jun 22 11:06:24 sigh Jun 22 11:06:36 uat? Jun 22 11:06:37 ok, so its definitely a prob with that model Jun 22 11:06:42 ouch Jun 22 11:06:48 tobin has the same Jun 22 11:07:00 and it fails in the same way Jun 22 11:07:01 but he got a 10U now which works fine Jun 22 11:07:09 plymouth fails and lalala Jun 22 11:07:10 that we will see in dublin ;) Jun 22 11:07:27 the plymouth messages are just cosmetic Jun 22 11:07:31 you can ignore them Jun 22 11:07:47 thats not the cause of the issue Jun 22 11:08:00 ok Jun 22 11:08:06 apparently the unpacked tarball is corrupt Jun 22 11:08:16 ouch Jun 22 11:08:17 so your rootfs isnt completely there Jun 22 11:08:33 did you roll a new rootfs too? Jun 22 11:08:37 that seems to only happen on that one model which is really weird Jun 22 11:08:44 i will Jun 22 11:08:47 ok Jun 22 11:08:59 first the kernel needs to be up to date ... that takes a day Jun 22 11:09:31 but i plan to have a newer natty image in place before the sprint and hopefully also a headles spin Jun 22 11:10:55 cool Jun 22 11:11:02 a headless would be awesome Jun 22 11:11:20 as a side note, there's a fix for the usb thing on omap Jun 22 11:11:25 yup, i hear you Jun 22 11:11:36 i thought that didnt work ? Jun 22 11:11:44 there's a new one :) Jun 22 11:11:47 actually 2 patches Jun 22 11:11:50 but anyway Jun 22 11:11:56 testing right now Jun 22 11:12:01 works on omap4 Jun 22 11:12:09 trying omap3 now Jun 22 11:13:30 and while it compiles, i think i'll grab some food Jun 22 11:43:02 and now it breaks in new and unexpected ways... ohhhh... Jun 22 11:45:12 joy ! Jun 22 11:56:44 Hi! I am trying to port Ubuntu to an HTC device, but the audio driver neither support ALSA not OSS... Jun 22 11:57:26 it use a specific device /dev/msm_pcm_out ... Jun 22 11:58:24 do other ARM devices have exotic sound support? Jun 22 12:00:51 which htc device? Jun 22 13:17:46 what does the pandaboard do with the led's if there's been a kernel panic? Jun 22 13:18:19 heh, it's back now. everything froze for a while Jun 22 13:35:10 lugu: some do some don't depends on the Audio codec Jun 22 13:35:24 lugu: just out of interest what device Jun 22 13:49:33 How to port ubuntu 9.10 for ARM926 Jun 22 13:54:02 dhana013: that is a lot of work Jun 22 13:54:21 ARM926 is armv5 afaik Jun 22 13:54:30 which means compiling every last thing Jun 22 13:55:31 I have tried with rootstock not working Jun 22 13:55:53 rootstock doesnt compile everything Jun 22 13:56:06 you need to get teh source for everything and compile Jun 22 13:56:20 give any link Jun 22 13:57:49 not offhand Jun 22 13:57:57 personally I would just use debian Jun 22 13:58:01 it is a lot of work Jun 22 15:18:29 Hello is there a chat room for new users please? Jun 22 15:19:31 persia, Depending on your question, here may be fine. Jun 22 15:19:43 * persia fails tab completion Jun 22 15:21:34 persia: hehe I hate it when that happens, Jun 22 15:22:23 "peteiow" < "persia", but apparently my client was processing the /part just at the moment I pressed , but before having printed it :) Jun 22 15:22:46 Err, no, I'm completely wrong. Still, shouldn't complete to myself :/ Jun 22 15:23:23 heh I tabcomp with 2 chars so it would have for me Jun 22 15:23:49 but my client also completes to the last to talk for a given pattern Jun 22 15:24:58 That's helpful. Extra points if it also includes those who have already left the channel in the candidates. Jun 22 15:25:16 no extra points Jun 22 15:25:20 :( Jun 22 15:25:32 part and rejoin resets that person in the queue Jun 22 15:25:47 (perhaps for some time (e.g. 300 seconds), with the timeout indefinitely extended when there is an outstanding highlight from that nick) Jun 22 15:26:27 Oh, that makes it extra tricky for folk who bounce a lot. Jun 22 15:26:33 (or netsplits) Jun 22 15:26:40 yeah :/ Jun 22 15:27:46 Oh, you might know: earlier apachelogger was asking about GLES drivers for i.MX53, and whether there were any available under terms that could allow them into multiverse. Jun 22 15:31:50 no idea, but a quick look at freescales site indicates that the drivers may be difficlt Jun 22 15:32:06 s/difficlt/difficult/ Jun 22 15:32:08 Yeah, that was my experience from the same look. Jun 22 15:32:59 I can never keep track of which devices you're playing with, so I figured it was worth asking :) Jun 22 15:33:57 what is the stance on licencing for multiverse, needs to be canonical friendly, or is it maintainer of the package is responcible Jun 22 15:34:45 Needs to be mirror-friendly. Jun 22 15:34:56 ah Jun 22 15:34:57 Specifically, needs to allow redistribution without cost or explicit acceptance. Jun 22 15:35:24 that is fair enough Jun 22 15:36:01 as for the devices I am playing with, as a general rule, mainstream android devices Jun 22 15:36:05 It's rather relaxed. That said, be careful if you use software from there: some of it requires sending postcards to folk, some of it is non-commercial only, some can't be used in some countries, etc. Jun 22 15:36:07 ages ago it was the iphone Jun 22 15:36:25 Oh, just retail stuff? I thought you sometimes did development boards also. Jun 22 15:36:42 I don't get my hands on many dev boards these days :( Jun 22 15:37:05 Prices keep dropping (although I'll admit I much prefer retail devices) Jun 22 15:37:12 yeah Jun 22 15:37:23 polish of retail devices is just that bit nicer Jun 22 15:37:43 even if I am bringing an unsupported os :p Jun 22 15:37:59 They also stack and travel better. Jun 22 15:38:09 looking forward to my next target Jun 22 15:38:14 yeah that is true Jun 22 15:39:10 What do you have planned? Jun 22 15:39:59 transformer Jun 22 15:41:01 That's the one that turns into a robot? Jun 22 15:41:14 haha the one that turns into a netbook Jun 22 15:41:57 Ah, so not http://mobilementalism.com/2007/09/04/motorola-transformer-phone/ Jun 22 15:42:30 haha no, Jun 22 15:42:35 that thing looks cool though Jun 22 15:42:42 ASUS eeepad transformer Jun 22 15:43:48 Oooh, nice. Jun 22 15:43:57 yeah :) Jun 22 15:44:05 should arrive soonish Jun 22 15:44:14 Any chance that a kernel could be constructed that worked for both that and the ac100, or is too little autodetectable? Jun 22 15:45:18 probably a bit big Jun 22 15:46:09 big meaning incompatible with the partitioning, or just extra megabytes? Jun 22 15:46:36 big meaning extra megabytes which arent able to be spared :( Jun 22 15:46:57 What's the limitation there? Jun 22 15:47:02 ogra was saying as it is the natty initramfs does not fit due to the size limitations Jun 22 15:47:19 most android devices have a limitation of around 7-8MB Jun 22 15:47:20 Oh, the partitioning. Jun 22 15:48:22 We definitely need a way to safely and correctly repartition those, and apply a bootloader we can understand. Jun 22 15:49:29 On my Dynabook, I have about 3GB wasted because of the restrictions, and having to maintain multiple kernel trees just makes it hard. Jun 22 15:49:30 well on these tegra devices it shouldn't be that horrible Jun 22 15:49:56 on my galaxy tab I had to tweak compression and rip things down Jun 22 15:50:37 but if I understand what APX mode is, it should be a bootrom level recovery mechanism Jun 22 15:50:51 opening the doors to porting uboot Jun 22 15:51:03 Oh, excellent! Jun 22 15:51:23 I wouldnt dare for my tab though Jun 22 15:51:39 sbl is the lowest form of recovery Jun 22 15:55:13 well bedtime I think :) Jun 22 15:55:19 Sleep well. Jun 22 15:55:29 I'll try :) Jun 22 15:55:47 have a good morning/day/afternoon/evening/night Jun 22 16:55:30 janimo: any idea already why firefox takes so much time to start on arm? Jun 22 16:58:15 which version? Jun 22 17:00:15 cpearson: any version :-) Jun 22 17:00:24 cpearson: janimo had a bp to try to speed it up Jun 22 17:00:35 cpearson: the webm issue is related with thumb2 support Jun 22 17:00:55 built firefox 5 without thumb2 and I'm able to play youtube videos with html5 + webm Jun 22 17:01:14 reporting at bug 789198 now Jun 22 17:01:15 Launchpad bug 789198 in firefox "Firefox crashes when attempting to play webm video OMAP4 Panda Board" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/789198 Jun 22 17:01:49 sorry, was supposed to be to chrisccoulson :-) Jun 22 17:02:39 rsalveti, thanks. i'm sure it was somebody in here who turned on thumb2 support ;) Jun 22 17:03:05 it wasnt :P Jun 22 17:03:20 doko turned it on :) Jun 22 17:03:43 have a nice day(s) - see you on friday Jun 22 17:03:44 rsalveti, janimo has a spec to research that Jun 22 17:03:56 (firefox startup time) Jun 22 17:07:54 ogra: chrisccoulson: was changed by bug 696895 Jun 22 17:07:55 Launchpad bug 696895 in xulrunner-2.0 "FTBFS on armel" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/696895 Jun 22 17:08:00 janimo probably added it Jun 22 17:08:17 thats a quite old bug id Jun 22 17:09:08 january, hmm Jun 22 17:10:25 not *that* old Jun 22 17:10:31 seems to affect only libvpx Jun 22 17:10:38 that is used when playing webm videos Jun 22 17:10:45 probably nobody ever tested it Jun 22 17:11:12 so libvpx needs to learn thumb2 ? Jun 22 17:11:32 ogra: think so, but the problem is that firefox keeps it's own version of libvpx Jun 22 17:11:43 and link it against libxul (huge link) Jun 22 17:11:50 oh fun Jun 22 17:18:55 chrisccoulson: will build against latest nightly and report the bug upstream Jun 22 17:19:12 ogra: chrisccoulson: should we disable thumb2 support for now? I can create the debdiff Jun 22 17:19:24 this will let people play youtube videos with webm support (html5) Jun 22 17:19:32 if that doesnt cause an ftbfs again Jun 22 17:19:42 I believe it's important as we don't have proper flash support Jun 22 17:19:48 * ogra_ would love to use youtube on his ac100 :) Jun 22 17:20:39 ok, will create the debdiff and fire up a build at my ppa to see if it all goes well :-) Jun 22 20:27:03 What is the difference between Ubuntu's 11.04 and Linaro's 11.05 ? Jun 22 20:30:10 Linaro released a month later, since it wasn't ready in April Jun 22 20:33:13 That's obvious, but what else is Linaro throwing into the box since they have their own release of it Jun 22 20:38:48 !linaro Jun 22 20:38:49 Factoid 'linaro' not found **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jun 23 02:59:56 2011