**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 15 02:59:57 2011 Jul 15 03:25:40 chedder, What does network manager tell you about available networks? Jul 15 06:19:29 hi all Jul 15 06:55:22 i have build ubuntu natty by using rootstock Jul 15 06:55:28 On beagleboard Jul 15 06:55:38 but my ethernet is not working Jul 15 06:55:53 any solution ? Jul 15 06:58:54 What sort of ethernet do you have? Jul 15 06:58:55 If it's like the one on my Zippy, I think the issue is a lack of kernel drivers for it. Jul 15 06:58:55 Or improper hotplug support. Jul 15 07:00:02 persia, it's the defualt ethernet cming with beagleboard Jul 15 07:00:30 as u said i doubt it's kernel driver issue Jul 15 07:00:42 I have build natty from rootstock Jul 15 07:00:47 I think you have a different beagleboard than I: mine only has ethernet on a breakout board (zippy), and that ethernet has never worked for me. Jul 15 07:00:59 oh ok Jul 15 07:01:12 I've always suspected a driver issue, because USB ethernet works fine. Jul 15 07:01:21 oh ok Jul 15 07:01:40 this was working fine with angstrom Jul 15 07:01:54 By the way, you know that rootstock is good for experimentation, but not entirely suitable for the creation of production images, right? Jul 15 07:02:09 I feel the same Jul 15 07:02:31 One more clarification I needed Jul 15 07:02:33 Heh. I suspect angstrom has some patches to the kernel, or patches to udev to handle that (I'm not sure which is needed). Jul 15 07:02:40 ok Jul 15 07:03:30 Actullay in the boot directory of the natty vmlinux and initrd.img etc.. is 2.6.39 Jul 15 07:03:40 But my uImage is for 2,6,38 Jul 15 07:03:54 whether this will be the problem ? Jul 15 07:04:44 Maybe, but only maybe. More important than the contents of /boot are whether you have anything in /lib/modules/ that matches the currently running kernel Jul 15 07:05:30 let me check Jul 15 07:05:52 oh right Jul 15 07:06:02 all the modules are only for 2.6.39 Jul 15 07:06:31 So either have to put 2.6.38 module there or ,hve to build new uImage for 2.6.39 Jul 15 07:06:32 Right ? Jul 15 07:07:46 If you want to be able to load drivers, yeah :) Jul 15 07:07:59 ok Jul 15 07:08:01 let me give a try Jul 15 07:16:15 persia, i guess it's detected now Jul 15 07:16:25 lights are cming from etehrnet card Jul 15 07:16:36 Trying to configure it .. Jul 15 07:16:40 Cool! Jul 15 07:24:37 persia, yes it's start working Jul 15 07:24:55 Even my Wifi Module also detected Jul 15 07:24:58 ;) Jul 15 08:06:26 * persia suspects mmcqd isn't supposed to consume more cycles than any other process Jul 15 08:07:27 1131 ? D 51:39 [mmcqd] Jul 15 08:07:43 That's 10 days uptime on a system that's a full archive mirror. Jul 15 08:07:52 It's not the top offender, but it's close. Jul 15 08:08:16 You're clearly abusing your SD cards almost as much as I then Jul 15 08:08:22 (If the mirror wasn't on external storage, it probably would be top) Jul 15 08:08:32 Well, my root's on SD, cause I'm lazy. Jul 15 08:08:50 This is on a system with root on /dev/sda Jul 15 08:09:17 Oh. Well, stop doing mean things to your CD cards. Jul 15 08:09:25 (writing test images over and over?) Jul 15 08:09:50 Worse: pieces of test images. Jul 15 08:09:59 Ick. Jul 15 08:10:15 * persia hopes to get to actual test images later. Jul 15 08:10:34 I was supposed to be asleep, wasn't I? Jul 15 08:10:55 I got distracted by Vi Hart talking about pie. Jul 15 08:10:58 Or pi. Jul 15 08:11:00 Or both. Jul 15 08:11:01 My views on timezones and sleeping habits being what they are, I'm not sure I'm qualified to answer that question. Jul 15 08:11:02 I lost trach. Jul 15 08:11:05 Tau! Jul 15 08:11:06 track, too. Jul 15 11:01:28 ppisati: ogra_: who is integrating the TI LT kernel at ubuntu? Jul 15 11:02:37 rsalveti: Last I knew it was ppsati Jul 15 11:02:54 But it was never clear to me if that was a LT kernel or a BSP kernel Jul 15 11:03:25 that's also what I want to know :-) Jul 15 11:04:00 what tree ubuntu is planning to use for omap 4, who is doing the work and how related it is with the TI LT tree Jul 15 11:15:19 rsalveti: bsp kernel, based on agreen's kernel-tilt/master Jul 15 11:15:41 and here is if you want to try it out Jul 15 11:15:43 http://people.canonical.com/~ppisati/ti-omap4-next/linux-image-3.0.0-1-omap4_3.0.0-1.0~9765dd1_armel.deb Jul 15 11:16:14 git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ppisati/ubuntu-oneiric.git ti-omap4-next Jul 15 11:16:21 if you want to tweak it Jul 15 11:18:08 ppisati: so, it's TI LT + ubuntu sauce? Jul 15 11:18:35 yep Jul 15 11:19:30 oneiric/master + kernel-tilt/master + $omap4_only_stuff Jul 15 11:19:37 hm, ok, we also want the same thing for linaro, so I'm thinking how should we avoid duplicate work Jul 15 11:19:39 where omap4_only_stuff so far is only some config Jul 15 11:19:51 ok, that's fine Jul 15 11:19:56 pick it entirely Jul 15 11:20:10 and in theory there's no reason to keep patches !config in $omap4_only_stuff Jul 15 11:20:18 as agreen is taking most of the patches Jul 15 11:20:21 agree Jul 15 11:21:33 jcrigby: so even less work for us atm Jul 15 11:22:32 ppisati: and when are you planning to push this to omap4 branch? Jul 15 11:23:11 rsalveti: well, there's one issue with audio still, but i think we can skip it ATM Jul 15 11:23:32 if it gets some testing, i can push it next week Jul 15 11:24:12 btw, IIRC exactly next week the SRU team open the window for new kernel cycle Jul 15 11:24:17 so it's a perfect timing Jul 15 11:26:45 ppisati: cool, good to know Jul 15 11:27:52 whos is using omap4/panda? Jul 15 11:28:04 me, you, grue, ogra and janimo? Jul 15 11:28:27 ppisati, I do Jul 15 11:28:34 stock oneiric Jul 15 11:28:41 upgraded from natty Jul 15 11:28:47 janimo: cool, so can you give it a try? Jul 15 11:28:54 janimo: http://people.canonical.com/~ppisati/ti-omap4-next/linux-image-3.0.0-1-omap4_3.0.0-1.0~9765dd1_armel.deb Jul 15 11:29:08 ppisati, sure Jul 15 11:30:01 in the meantime... Jul 15 11:30:07 * ppisati -> lunch Jul 15 11:30:31 * janimo grumbles about canonicaladmin javascript bugs Jul 15 12:46:43 persia, can u pls tell me abt where can I get pvr drivers for the kernel 2.6.38 Jul 15 12:47:26 is it bundled with omap ti Sdk ? Jul 15 12:52:55 siji, You want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAP/Graphics Jul 15 12:53:28 I don't know whether it is in the TI SDK, or how TI licenses it to their customers: for playing around, feel free to use our code. Jul 15 12:53:58 persia, ok Jul 15 12:54:03 For production shipment, it's worth double-checking the terms of your supplier arrangement with TI Jul 15 12:54:11 sure will do Jul 15 12:54:46 persia, i have tried this link Jul 15 12:55:06 it generated the driver only for 2.6.35 Jul 15 12:55:10 not for 2.6.38 Jul 15 12:57:28 You installed libegl1-sgx-omap3 libgles1-sgx-omap3 and libgles2-sgx-omap3, and it didn't autocompile for your installed kernel? Jul 15 12:58:05 no Jul 15 12:58:50 Well, what did you do then? Jul 15 12:59:13 it has created one more module folder at /lib/modules/2.6.35 and pvr folder created there Jul 15 12:59:29 2.6.35-n90 I guess Jul 15 13:00:15 which is i think not compatible with .38 Jul 15 13:00:31 anyway let me give a try again Jul 15 13:26:34 persia, Setting up linux-image-2.6.35-1-n900 (2.6.35-1.3.1) ... Jul 15 13:26:34 Running depmod. Jul 15 13:26:34 update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-1-n900 Jul 15 13:28:48 siji: Hrm? Aren't you working on a Beagle derivative? Why use the n900 kernel? Jul 15 13:29:01 am not using actually Jul 15 13:29:09 it by default installed Jul 15 13:29:19 Which image did you start from? Jul 15 13:29:27 2.6.38 Jul 15 13:29:32 As long as you start from one of the omap images, the n900 kernel shouldn't be installed. Jul 15 13:29:45 That's only default for the n900 images. Jul 15 13:29:58 looking for help finding the modules to enable networking Jul 15 13:30:12 i am a newb - very cluness Jul 15 13:30:18 persia, not getting you Jul 15 13:30:21 i am running a pandaboard Jul 15 13:30:45 I am using the 10.10 image, any thoughts Jul 15 13:32:02 chedder: does your uname -a match the contents of /lib/modules? Jul 15 13:32:34 siji: So, there's lots of kernels in the Ubuntu archive. You want one ending with -omap. The -n900 kernel might work on your hardware, but it might not. Jul 15 13:32:44 persia, ko Jul 15 13:32:46 *ok Jul 15 13:32:58 siji: So, if you started with one of the armel+omap images, you won't have linux-n900 installed by default, and you won't be building stuff for .35 kernels. Jul 15 13:33:59 persia, got your point Jul 15 13:35:01 let me recheck my rootstock parameters Jul 15 13:35:46 If you're just saying "gimme a kernel that works on this hardware", you might end up with n900, as that is also an omap SoC: you might have to specify the kernel you want. Jul 15 13:36:00 ummm no idea :) Jul 15 13:36:17 ok Jul 15 13:36:37 chedder, which kernel u are using ? Jul 15 13:36:49 uname -a will tell you that Jul 15 13:36:52 I used this "http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/releases/10.10/release/ubuntu-netbook-10.10-preinstalled-netbook-armel+omap4.img.gz" Jul 15 13:36:54 chedder: OK. So, at the prompt, run `uname -a`. Also run `ls /lib/modules`. Check to make sure that you have modules (in /lib/modules) for the kernel you're running (the version is shown in uname) Jul 15 13:37:19 lool, around ? Jul 15 13:37:31 If you just booted that image, and waited for the resize, and went through the OEM wizard, networking should just work. Jul 15 13:37:51 both wired and wireless? Jul 15 13:38:27 For wireless, you might need to enable the TI PPA. I forget (I only use wired on mine). Jul 15 13:39:12 a working wired connection would be just fine Jul 15 13:39:38 OK. So there's two ways to make wired work. Jul 15 13:40:03 1) When you're done booting, use the network manager applet to select a wired network. Jul 15 13:40:33 2) read interfaces(5), and edit /etc/interfaces Jul 15 13:40:42 Of these, 1) is *lots* easier. Jul 15 13:43:24 persia, can pls have a look into my rootstock parameters @http://paste.debian.net/122989/ Jul 15 13:43:49 I'm not familiar with rootstock. I used it once, a *long* time ago, and never liked it. Jul 15 13:43:58 oh ok Jul 15 13:43:58 I'll look, but I don't promise much. Jul 15 13:44:03 no issues Jul 15 13:44:27 ogra_: half Jul 15 13:45:16 lool, i'm playinf with your flash-kernel patch for triggers and noticed that you run from /etc/initramfs/post-update.d/ ... Jul 15 13:45:18 siji: I'll recommend you use an Ubuntu kernel: try adding "linux-omap" to the seed list, and dropping the kernel0image line. Jul 15 13:45:41 ok Jul 15 13:45:46 Mind you, this may not actually work: I'm not sure what "kernel-image" does. Jul 15 13:46:09 lool, the content of that dir is only executed by update-initramfs -u ... not -c, so it doesnt solve the problem of running at kernel upgrades Jul 15 13:46:17 persia, will give a try Jul 15 13:46:29 lool, or do i misunderstand the code completely ? Jul 15 13:48:53 (building the image with "linux-omap" ) Jul 15 13:54:43 ogra_: I don't remember that part anymore, it's possible that I didn't handle all cases Jul 15 13:55:12 rsalveti, I just noticed the last line at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAP/Graphics : did you ever pursue that backport? Jul 15 13:55:35 well, it does implement triggers just fine, it just doesnt change anything in the faulty behavior Jul 15 14:07:33 ogra_: I think I had described this part of the problem in a separate message Jul 15 14:07:46 hm, k Jul 15 14:10:39 ogra_: /etc/initramfs/post-update.d and /etc/kernel/postinst.d calls keep a Jul 15 14:10:39 note of which kernel initrd are being touched, and update Jul 15 14:10:39 /var/lib/flash-kernel/known-kernels with the data. flash-kernel would Jul 15 14:10:59 ogra_: maybe I failed sending the etc/kernel snippet though Jul 15 14:11:04 yeah Jul 15 14:11:09 i dont see it Jul 15 14:11:37 well, i think for now i'll go with a simple implementation in our flash-kernel Jul 15 14:22:57 persia: afaik, yes Jul 15 14:28:02 Odd. I don't see it in the archive. Jul 15 14:28:08 Is it blocked on testers? Jul 15 15:14:58 persia, till now everything is happening smoothly Jul 15 15:15:20 I have made the image from rootstock , with 2.6.38 Jul 15 15:15:27 Just installing sgx packages Jul 15 15:15:46 now it's only installing 2.6.38 header Jul 15 15:19:03 siji, Heh, excellent. Jul 15 15:19:54 Random stuff on the net might work (and rcn-ee's stuff tends to be fairly good), but it's often safest to stick to the packages in the repositories until you have something *nearly* working, and then get patches in (best if you can get patches that can be applied to Ubuntu). Jul 15 15:32:06 ok Jul 15 15:38:16 persia, yes it's starts working Jul 15 15:38:18 :) Jul 15 18:01:08 GrueMaster, some testing of my recent flash-kernel change for bug 701698 would be nice next week :) Jul 15 18:01:09 Launchpad bug 701698 in boot "update-initramfs -c does not update the bootloader" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/701698 Jul 15 18:01:55 Oh, you actually fixed it? Jul 15 18:01:59 well Jul 15 18:02:13 i worked around it, lool has a real fix but thats very complex Jul 15 18:02:26 with my fix it can happen that flash-kernel is run multiple times Jul 15 18:03:02 during one apt-get (dist-)upgrade run if you have more than one kernel package you get Jul 15 18:03:10 Ok, I'll make it a point to test next week. Is this an SRU or oneiric only fix? Jul 15 18:03:23 oneiric only until after my vacation :) Jul 15 18:03:29 ok Jul 15 18:03:34 its adding one file so SRU should be easy Jul 15 21:06:38 mahmoh: GrueMaster: u-boot is correctly setting the mac address now Jul 15 21:06:47 and it's the same one detected by the kernel Jul 15 21:06:58 just booted here with pxe and it all went fine Jul 15 21:06:59 :-) Jul 15 21:08:33 rsalveti: \o/ Jul 15 21:17:07 rsalveti: 2/2, thx! Jul 15 22:54:31 rsalveti: i'll test it once the IO tests finish, probably tomorrow. Jul 16 01:15:51 can someone point me to ubuntu\arm benchmarks Jul 16 01:18:50 Anyone could comment abt virtualbox vs vmware in terms of performance? I need to install one on my ubuntu box and I am looking for speed.... Jul 16 01:42:18 Anyone could comment abt virtualbox vs vmware in terms of performance? I need to install one on my ubuntu box and I am looking for speed.... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jul 16 02:59:57 2011