**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 14 02:59:57 2011 Sep 14 04:00:26 20:31 twb, did you get that? Sep 14 04:00:29 lilstevie: I did now :-) Sep 14 04:00:46 19:32 What does "ld: no machine record defined" mean? Sep 14 04:00:50 lilstevie: any idea about that one? Sep 14 04:01:06 none Sep 14 04:01:12 Dammit Sep 14 04:01:20 never seen ld trip on that before Sep 14 04:01:29 I suspect it's something hf-related Sep 14 04:01:43 maybe Sep 14 04:47:34 Hello, I'm having trouble getting anything on the USB bus to show up with ubuntu on a beagle board. I've tried two different versions of the prebuilt ubuntu and neither of them work. It seems to be fine under angstrom. Thoughts? Sep 14 04:48:35 it's an error from the linxu kernel source Sep 14 04:48:37 not ld Sep 14 04:48:47 it's intentional, means you haven't enabled a machine Sep 14 04:49:02 so it cant' find a certain section in the image Sep 14 05:01:47 somebody mentioned that it might be a problem with USB_POWER_EN Sep 14 05:01:55 anybody have any pointers? Sep 14 05:07:39 tmzt: please explain, or tell me what docs I should be reading; "enable machine" is too vague for me to work out what to do Sep 14 05:08:13 Googling for either that or the error isn't helping, and the .S that refers to the error just says "if you get this, your binutils is too old" -- which I doubt Sep 14 05:08:40 GNU ld (GNU Binutils for Debian) 2.21.53.20110910 Sep 14 05:11:37 twb`: MACH_whatever isn't enabled Sep 14 05:12:17 I don't know what that means. Sep 14 05:13:27 You mean like MACH_TEGRA ? Sep 14 05:13:53 Would it be getting the "whatever" part from .config, or what? Sep 14 05:14:35 yeah Sep 14 05:14:39 like MACH_VENTANA Sep 14 05:15:11 http://paste.debian.net/129908/ Sep 14 05:16:58 where is MACH_PICASSO Sep 14 05:17:34 I turned it off because it didn't make sense to me :P Sep 14 05:17:41 TF101 isn't an AC500 Sep 14 05:18:15 but I told you they were mutually exclusive Sep 14 05:18:16 How do you mean mutually exclusive? Sep 14 05:18:26 muromec should have put depends=CONFIG_MACH_PICASSO on MACH_TF101 Sep 14 05:18:44 board-picasso contains what is needed for the tf101 Sep 14 05:19:00 OK, so it's just me being stupid, I will try turning PICASSO on again Sep 14 05:19:04 you really shouldn't turn turn off things in the config without making sure :) Sep 14 05:19:35 arm is a lot different to x86 :p some things that don't make sense are enabled for unknown reasons :) Sep 14 05:19:59 well appear to be unknown Sep 14 05:20:02 until you dig Sep 14 05:20:17 I was mislead by the Kconfig help string Sep 14 05:31:41 OK, now it passed the spot where it stopped before. Yay. Sep 14 05:43:08 lilstevie: so what is the process to get u-boot onto the tf? I guess step #1 is to git clone u-boot? Sep 14 05:43:42 Hmm, apt-get install u-boot u-boot-tools Sep 14 05:54:20 correct flash config, build u-boot, correct flash config Sep 14 05:54:30 installing u-boot like that wouldn't work :p Sep 14 05:54:39 u-boot is not generic Sep 14 05:55:32 Well, obviously once I apt-get install the tools I need to use them to generate an image and nvflash it onto the device or something Sep 14 05:56:56 lilstevie: does turning VFP on mean that hard-float is off? Sep 14 05:57:27 Oh V is for vector not virtual Sep 14 05:59:38 VFP is central to hardfloat :p Sep 14 06:00:23 as for the tools, they are more for making the right images for initrd and kernel image Sep 14 06:00:23 but the kernel image is already one Sep 14 06:00:26 done Sep 14 06:00:32 if you make with 'make uImage' Sep 14 06:01:12 But if I do "make uImage", how does the initrd get into the image Sep 14 06:01:40 Or can u-boot just find the kernel and ramdisk in /boot like an x86 bootloader Sep 14 06:01:45 when using uboot you dont put the initrd in the image Sep 14 06:01:50 you have a uImage and a uInitrd Sep 14 06:03:42 Aha, on amd64 "apt-get install u-boot" gives you a useless empty package, but on armhf I can see it providing stuff for other arm systems (efika, omap3, etc) Sep 14 06:04:24 anybody know a fast way to byte swap values in c? Sep 14 06:04:31 use the networking functions to do it? Sep 14 06:04:48 I'm trying to dump a uimage file as it's parts (it's a multi uncompressed) Sep 14 06:23:35 Poking around in the u-boot git tree, I can see "make harmony_config" and "make seaboard_config" but nothing else pointing at include/config/tegra2-common.h Sep 14 06:24:18 And I see now that "make uImage" in linux will run u-boot-tools' "mkimage" internally. Sep 14 06:25:26 make ventana CROSS_COMPILE=cross-compiler-arm DEV_SRC_TREE="tegra-tf101" Sep 14 06:25:38 In the u-boot source? Sep 14 06:26:09 yes Sep 14 06:26:48 make: *** No rule to make target `ventana'. Stop. Sep 14 06:29:15 hmbleh Sep 14 06:29:22 i dont remember look on the xda board Sep 14 06:29:33 somewhere in general muromecs thread has the info Sep 14 06:29:52 I never got the hang of web forums, but I'll try Sep 14 06:32:10 Looks like xda-developers has a robots.txt or something that gives preferential treatment to google over duckduckgo :-/ Sep 14 06:33:30 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202541 suggests ventana_config, /me tries Sep 14 06:33:46 thats it Sep 14 06:34:03 And it looks like he has a fork of u-boot so maybe I need to use that instead of mainline u-boot Sep 14 06:34:09 I didn't do the port so I don't remember Sep 14 06:34:16 oh yeah it isn't in mainline Sep 14 06:40:02 Waah Sep 14 06:40:05 /usr/src/u-boot/lib/sha1.c:228:1: internal compiler error: in maybe_add_or_update_dep_1, at sched-deps.c:845 Sep 14 09:53:26 janimo, so we should check what files we actually have for mx5 Sep 14 09:53:44 i suspect its just the publishing/html generating code that has a hiccup Sep 14 09:53:52 and that the image is actually fine Sep 14 09:53:58 ogra_, we should only have the .gz I guess. The first test runs did not produce iso, just the sep 14 run Sep 14 09:54:34 which was not manual so likely the setup needs to be changed a bit Sep 14 09:54:45 it is still an img.gz, the code generating the suffix actually uses file on the unzipped file Sep 14 09:54:59 but it is 1.5G Sep 14 09:55:15 is there a build of mx5 with the uboot file being found? Sep 14 09:55:16 bah, i'm blind Sep 14 09:55:20 we have both ! Sep 14 09:55:43 right, when I meant we have iso I meant in addition, not instead, should have worded better :) Sep 14 09:55:44 * ogra_ only saw the img.gz and img.gz.zsync files Sep 14 09:55:59 well, i could have looked better :) Sep 14 09:56:24 so get a dvd reader then ... Sep 14 09:57:25 Calling uboot-mkimage on kernel and initrd Sep 14 09:57:25 mkimage: Can't open /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/scratch/ubuntu/daily-preinstalled/preinstalled/armel+mx5.kernel-mx5: No such file or directory Sep 14 09:57:25 make: *** [bin-preinstalled_images] Error 1 Sep 14 09:57:38 so why do we have that .iso file there Sep 14 09:57:52 ARGH !!!!!!! Sep 14 09:57:54 Calling uboot-mkimage on kernel and initrd Sep 14 09:57:54 mkimage: Can't open /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/scratch/ubuntu/daily-preinstalled/preinstalled/armel+mx5.kernel-mx5: No such file or directory Sep 14 09:57:54 make: *** [bin-preinstalled_images] Error 1 Sep 14 09:57:57 err Sep 14 09:57:59 wrong paste Sep 14 09:58:02 Publishing armel+mx5 ... Sep 14 09:58:02 WARNING: Unknown file type 'Linux rev 1.0 ext3 filesystem data, UUID=2e4ade6f-20c2-4670-9475-51fe999a8d0e'; assuming .iso Sep 14 09:58:03 Making armel+mx5 zsync metafile ... Sep 14 09:58:16 grnbl Sep 14 09:59:43 gah Sep 14 10:00:21 so the live builder produces: livecd.ubuntu-mx5.kernel-linaro-lt-mx5 Sep 14 10:01:37 http://annonaceae.buildd/~buildd/LiveCD/oneiric/ubuntu-mx5/current/livecd.ubuntu-mx5.kernel-mx5: Sep 14 10:01:37 2011-09-14 04:45:47 ERROR 404: Not Found. Sep 14 10:01:47 hmpf Sep 14 10:01:51 more hacks ahead Sep 14 10:04:48 janimo, i assume we dont want to rename mx5 to linaro-lt-mx5 all over the place ? Sep 14 10:05:15 no, mx5 should be fine and much less confusing Sep 14 10:05:26 lt-linaro is just the designation of the kernel origin Sep 14 10:06:05 right, live-build cant handle cases where the subarch name isnt identical to the kernel name suffix Sep 14 10:07:19 though that it assumes iso for ext3 is really weird Sep 14 10:09:46 ah, k, the iso is a fallout of the missing kernel Sep 14 10:24:18 hmm, i really fail to find the code in live-build that actually creates livecd.ubuntu-mx5.kernel-mx5 Sep 14 10:41:26 janimo, i fear we need infinity ... i can stare at the code for another two hours to find out where to put a proper hack, but i guess he will be faster ... Sep 14 10:41:59 indeed Sep 14 10:42:34 and i dont really feel comfortable to mangle the LB_LINUX_FLAVOURS variable during the build since all arches use it Sep 14 10:42:50 and i guess thats the wrong approach anyway Sep 14 10:43:25 * ogra_ wonders if he could instead do a hack on the cdimage side Sep 14 10:56:53 janimo, i got a testbuild running with a hack in cdimage, lets see Sep 14 11:11:13 lilstevie: I'm going home now, but I have typed up what I've learnt up to about last sunday: http://cyber.com.au/~twb/doc/tf101.txt (source) tf101.html (rendered) Sep 14 11:11:21 Comments, fixes, etc. welcome. Sep 14 11:13:35 twb: well I can tell you why the bootloader needs to be uploaded :) Sep 14 11:14:16 No honest, I'm going home. Email me or something. /me runs Sep 14 11:14:51 heh Sep 14 11:14:53 sure you are Sep 14 11:15:14 there are some fixes I will write later Sep 14 11:15:34 I kinda have a 1500 word essay due tomorrow which I only just started Sep 14 11:19:46 i'm trying to get ubuntu working on my beagle board xM rev c, but nothing on the USB bus seems to be working. Somebody mentioned looking at USB_POWER_EN. But I haven't been able to track down much on that issue. Does anybody have any pointers? Sep 14 11:21:03 * ogra_ runs another mx5 build Sep 14 11:39:51 and another one Sep 14 11:42:12 lol Sep 14 11:43:03 oho ! Sep 14 11:43:09 that one looks good Sep 14 11:46:28 janimo, i think i have something for you in a minute Sep 14 11:46:29 it created partitions etc, now it is compressing Sep 14 11:46:31 hmm, though it again uses a 1.5G file ... where does that come from Sep 14 11:48:01 ogra_, that is the standard new DVD iso size for Ubuntu right? Sep 14 11:48:22 might be Sep 14 11:49:15 hmm, but thats not a debian-cd issue Sep 14 11:49:28 the live builder actually generated an 1.5G ext3 Sep 14 11:52:10 an installer for arm that can be put on an sdcard or usb stick would be awesome Sep 14 11:53:01 lilstevie, thats how all our images work Sep 14 11:53:28 I could make a blob for the start of the mmc that would solve the need to use nvflash :p Sep 14 11:53:29 what bothers me is that it is still convinced it builds a CD Sep 14 11:53:35 even though it isnt doing that Sep 14 11:53:41 ah heh Sep 14 12:28:25 * ogra_ will wait for infinity ... that is all odd Sep 14 13:40:38 NCommander: weren't you preparing a kernel patch for nic/usb? Sep 14 14:42:06 hmm, oss4 has a weird build failure Sep 14 14:42:31 complaining about an unused variable (which triggers Werror) but the variable is actually used Sep 14 14:43:48 hmm Sep 14 14:43:52 * ogra_ doesnt get it Sep 14 14:44:07 ossmixd.c: In function 'update_values': Sep 14 14:44:07 ossmixd.c:165:7: error: variable 'prev_value' set but not used [-Werror=unused-but-set-variable] Sep 14 14:44:07 cc1: all warnings being treated as errors Sep 14 14:44:08 ... Sep 14 14:44:25 but ... Sep 14 14:44:38 int value, prev_value; Sep 14 14:44:39 .... Sep 14 14:44:51 prev_value = mixc_get_value (mixernum, i); Sep 14 14:44:52 ... Sep 14 14:45:24 i dont get why that would spill a warning at all Sep 14 14:48:55 ogra_: The netinstall for omap is no longer pulling x-loader. We will need it as it is still a separate package from u-boot. Sep 14 14:49:16 hmm, i didnt change it Sep 14 14:49:20 i think Sep 14 14:49:44 didnt NCommander upload a d-i change for that recently ? Sep 14 14:49:47 * ogra_ checks Sep 14 14:49:48 Didn't we take it out of the seed? Or is this a netinstall issue only? Sep 14 14:50:01 He updated flash-kernel for omap. Sep 14 14:50:54 i didnt touch any omap code at all Sep 14 14:51:01 only omap4 Sep 14 14:51:30 Ok, so it is the flash-kernel for d-i that needs fixing? Sep 14 14:51:42 and i have no idea how michael pulls x-loader, that should happen by flash-kernel-installer usually Sep 14 14:52:06 I'll pounce on him when he gets up. Sep 14 14:52:52 He may have thought that with the x-loader being pulled in for panda that it was that way for all omap. Sep 14 14:53:19 yeah, he was on vac. when it happened Sep 14 14:53:27 ogra_, why do you try to compile oss4? Sep 14 14:53:34 He just updated it Monday. Sep 14 14:53:58 diwic, i try to make it not ftbfs :) Sep 14 14:54:29 diwic, it looks like it is right that 'prev_value' isnt used further, but it is definitely getting a value assigned once Sep 14 14:54:46 i wonder if i could just drop that var Sep 14 14:55:42 ogra_, I guess you could, but is oss4 really relevant for arm? Better just mark it as "don't even try"? Sep 14 14:56:09 diwic, not an option :) Sep 14 14:56:19 (see cjwatsons mail to -devel) Sep 14 14:56:49 what makes me really wonder is why it doesnt ftbfs on all arches with that error Sep 14 14:56:56 ogra_, ok will look later (will have to go to meeting now) Sep 14 14:57:37 no hurry Sep 14 14:58:04 (i didnt even mean to summon you :), but if you want to take it ... ) Sep 14 15:20:25 Hi! I am having issues with "vdr" multimedia server.. it locks up my dvbt tuner on pandaboard.. on x86 it behaves fine (natty) Sep 14 15:20:44 Any hints what to try? It locks up some time after I stop recording/streaming Sep 14 15:21:50 http://fpaste.org/4E4X/ is the dmesg.. I repluggged the tuner ~2 times and restarted vdr during the logged time Sep 14 15:31:54 looks like a driver issue ... Sep 14 15:32:00 file a bug i'd say :) Sep 14 15:35:44 GrueMaster, so looking at NCommander's f-k changes, he doesnt seem to touch x-loader stuff at all Sep 14 15:36:35 The x-loader package isn't installed at all. The f-k part fails when making the system bootable due to missing MLO. Sep 14 15:37:04 That is why I thought it might be a seed issue. Sep 14 15:37:07 right, but i see no code changes touchcing anything x-loader related Sep 14 15:37:15 might Sep 14 15:37:24 iirc we seed it in the installer seed Sep 14 15:38:12 ogra@osiris:~/Devel/seeds/platform.oneiric$ grep x-loader * Sep 14 15:38:12 supported-hardware-common: * x-loader-omap3-beagle [armel] # omap3 first stage bootloader Sep 14 15:38:12 supported-hardware-common: * x-loader-omap4-panda [armel] # omap4 first stage bootloader Sep 14 15:38:16 yup, we do Sep 14 15:39:19 but i think thats only for main, that seed isnt used anywhere else Sep 14 15:39:56 Well, not sure what to look for. The x-loader wasn't installed on this system after running netinstall. I had to go in and manually add it. Sep 14 15:40:38 right, i'm still digging Sep 14 15:40:49 are you sure it was ever installed in these images ? Sep 14 15:41:32 it had to be. We had working netinstall on Maverick (although unofficially). Sep 14 15:41:56 i'm talking about this cycle :) Sep 14 15:42:13 NCommander completely rewriote what i did in lucid/maverick Sep 14 15:42:23 This cycle it hasn't worked for other reasons. Sep 14 15:43:08 right, so we dont know if the new code ever worked Sep 14 15:44:10 I'll ping NCommanderwhen he gets up. Sep 14 15:46:02 yeah, to me it looks like that never worked Sep 14 15:46:15 at least there were no recent changes that could break it Sep 14 16:02:21 Is there a kind soul who might be able to help me with the Beagle board under QEMU emulation? I keep getting "qemu: fatal: Trying to execute code outside RAM or ROM at 0x40304350" when attempting to load the Oneiric OMAP4 kernel Sep 14 16:03:31 ogra_, sry.. I was away.. file bug agains what? everything is OK when I use mplayer.. everything is OK when using VDR on x86 Sep 14 16:04:08 well, thses are definitely kernel messages Sep 14 16:04:29 if a userspace app triggers such things you should file a bug against the kernel Sep 14 16:04:32 oh.. thinking that way around.. that makes sense.. ok Sep 14 16:04:49 ogra_, on launchpad I guess? Sep 14 16:05:08 yep Sep 14 16:05:19 (cause kernel bugzilla is down anyway) Sep 14 16:05:24 or just call ubuntu-bug on the panda Sep 14 16:05:32 it shoudl wlak you through Sep 14 16:05:40 *walk Sep 14 16:05:42 that will need launchpad account anyway.. right? Sep 14 16:05:47 yes Sep 14 16:06:14 it would be easier from here.. thanks for help.. I hope it's something easier to fix.. Sep 14 16:06:38 ogra_, do you think booting vanilla kernel 3.0.0. and testing with that would help? Sep 14 16:08:26 MMlosh, where would you get such a kernel ? Sep 14 16:08:37 do you have one for omap4 around ? Sep 14 16:09:08 ogra_, yes.. I have that ready to go Sep 14 16:09:35 well, try it, then you can tell in the bug that its working in vanilla oamp4 Sep 14 16:09:37 not completely vanilla.. it has some minimal patches according to the wiki.. Sep 14 16:09:45 ah.. crap.. I think it lacks dvb support Sep 14 16:09:50 funny though, i wouldnt think that works without all the TI patches Sep 14 16:11:37 utlemming: The omap4 kernel is not the beagleboard kernel. That is for the pandaboard. You want an omap kernel. Sep 14 16:11:38 ogra_, yes.. but I started with the omap4 defconfig from the wiki Sep 14 16:11:51 GrueMaster, this is on panda Sep 14 16:12:31 MMlosh: I was referring to utlemming's post on using the omap4 kernel in quemu emulating a beagleboard (before your post). Sep 14 16:12:39 MMlosh, well, our kernel carries like 1700 patches from TI to make panda work in all aspects Sep 14 16:13:02 GrueMaster: I just double-checked, I'm install linux-image-omap Sep 14 16:13:10 I used the 3.0.0 image to get the AP support... it worked fine Sep 14 16:15:26 ogra_, I'll get most up to date kernel then and compile.. I hope I get the config right, so the tuner works.. but first the basic report.. and finding out my launchpad password Sep 14 16:15:48 which kernel are you currently running btw ? Sep 14 16:16:03 we have a 3.0 omap4 kernel in oneirirc Sep 14 16:18:36 ogra_, the default one in natty Sep 14 16:19:05 2.6.38-1208-omap4 Sep 14 16:19:19 hmm.. that's sure worth trying.. Sep 14 16:19:21 the Oneiric linux-image-omap is for OMAP3 devices Sep 14 16:19:29 utlemming, yes Sep 14 16:19:52 ogra_: that is the one that I am using that is failing in qemu Sep 14 16:20:55 utlemming, with what bootloader setup do you use it ? Sep 14 16:21:36 u-boot and MLO from the Natty Netbook images Sep 14 16:21:52 and you have a vfat you point qemu to Sep 14 16:21:55 ? Sep 14 16:22:02 carrying all these bits Sep 14 16:22:03 yeah, on a vfat Sep 14 16:22:10 weird, that should work Sep 14 16:22:24 ogra_, he has a point - can I keep mlo and uboot from natty, or I have to upgrade for that 3.0 kernel? Sep 14 16:22:45 should work Sep 14 16:23:29 ok Sep 14 16:24:21 Oh...wait a minute...I'm using the OMAP4 MLO and uboot Sep 14 16:24:38 I'll try the OMAP3 ones Sep 14 16:29:47 * utlemming feels like an idiot for using the wrong MLO and u-boot Sep 14 17:31:18 oh.. the bluish color of the boot messages is gone.. it's pure gray with 3.0.0.. the dvb tuner works.. let's see if it locks up when I stop using it Sep 14 17:35:22 and the minor issue with fluxbox is gone (it used to paint default "Workspace 1" instead of my configured name at the beginning) Sep 14 17:42:25 taking my preference for 3.0 back.. Xv does not work.. maybe I need X11 update Sep 14 17:52:24 ogra_: GrueMaster: I'm alive. I didn't touch the x-loader code in F-K, the onmly thing I did was make sure the proper packages get instlaled in f-k-i on omap3 Sep 14 17:52:46 Well, missed one. :P Sep 14 17:52:59 ? Sep 14 17:53:20 x-loader is not installed. Sep 14 17:53:22 there is no x-loader on omap Sep 14 17:53:33 great Sep 14 17:53:43 (it only moved into u-boot on panda) Sep 14 17:53:43 am I just installing the wrong package? Sep 14 17:53:53 ogra_: *facepalm* Sep 14 17:53:57 no, we arent ending up with any MLO Sep 14 17:54:08 omap3 still needs the old way Sep 14 17:54:36 lovely Sep 14 17:54:43 I'll smack it with a stick today Sep 14 17:55:15 well, up to now the omap netinst wasnt usable anyway ... and nobody complained Sep 14 17:55:36 * ogra_ wouldnt cry if it wouldnt get ready to be honest Sep 14 17:56:16 ogra_: english parse fail Sep 14 17:57:36 really ? Sep 14 17:57:48 that sentence didn't make sense to me Sep 14 17:57:49 hmm, my grammar is a bit weird today, agreed Sep 14 17:58:28 ogra_: anyway, I'm going to resolve my nictine fix so I'll bbiab Sep 14 17:58:36 NCommander, we havent had any working netinst omap3 images yet and nobody complained ... so it doesnt seem like anyone misses it ... and i wouldnt miss it too if you wouldnt manage Sep 14 17:58:55 s/too/either/ Sep 14 17:59:03 * ogra_ hopes thats more understandable :) Sep 14 18:14:01 ogra_, the -omap4 kernel from oneiric works so far... the tuner's "channel lock" LED sometimes gets off for a second, but always comes back on, meaning the tuner is working Sep 14 18:14:24 too bad DPMS and Xv do not work... maybe I need to update X11 from oneiric too Sep 14 18:17:13 Is the issue still worth filling on launchpad? I guess that noone will bother fixing that for a <30 days until replacement release Sep 14 20:13:29 hi folks Sep 14 20:14:21 I'm a bit puzzled. I was under the impression that armel was a supported platform for natty. however, it seems there's binary packages that are only available for x86 platforms Sep 14 20:14:56 I'm having a bit of trouble getting text within QEMU....I'm using as my u-boot boot.scr parameters "setenv bootargs vram=1M mem=511M console=ttyS2,115200n8 serialtty=ttyS2 root=LABEL=cloudimg-rootfs fixrtc ro". All I see is "Starting kernel ...". Does anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong here? Sep 14 20:16:21 utlemming, my panda boot.scr says vram=4M... but that hardly changes anything Sep 14 20:16:45 and also mixes two similar but different systems.. don't listen to me Sep 14 20:17:36 MMlosh: I've played with the vram=? a bit, 1M was the latest shot. Otherwise I get an error about something attempting to write to some out-of-bounds memory region. Sep 14 20:17:54 oh.. that sure is weird Sep 14 20:19:26 I remember I set the mem= parameters to 2^x.. not sure if required.. or important.. but again.. guesswork.. better to ignore Sep 14 20:24:13 MMlosh: increasing it 2M seems to make things a bit happier, but not much Sep 14 21:25:39 hi .. i have some problems installing the prebuilt ubuntu binaries on my Pandaboard (revision A2) board .. i believe that i have followed the instructions in the "Getting Started" guide , and im trying to install Natty .. but i can't boot .. the boot sequence does not get longer than "Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel." .. Sep 14 21:25:58 After that, the two leds next to the sd slot are flashing for some minutes .. and then nothing further happens Sep 14 21:26:07 the image that i've copied to the sd card is ' ubuntu-11.04-preinstalled-netbook-armel+omap4.img ' Sep 14 21:26:20 :) please help **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Sep 15 02:59:57 2011