**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 06 02:59:56 2011 Oct 06 04:14:42 11.10 looks pretty. painfully slow on SD Oct 06 04:15:02 so far though, its working nice Oct 06 04:19:14 sound service went belly up Oct 06 04:19:21 sending a report ... slowly Oct 06 04:19:50 obsolite package installed libodio Oct 06 04:19:56 upgrade it and re-try Oct 06 04:33:16 wonder if its easy to turn off video out on panda board to save some power Oct 06 04:52:16 jcrigby: Any reason that u-boot went to -proposed? Oct 06 04:52:46 jcrigby: If we want those 4460 fixes on images, we want them in the release pocket. Or did you figure it's too risky? Oct 06 04:55:23 11.10 is giving me troubles. refusing to install omap4 add ons Oct 06 05:26:27 got it installed installing the omap4 meta package from a shell Oct 06 05:45:21 Not that there's anything in the PPA for oneiric yet. Oct 06 05:45:30 OH. That reminds me, we still point at the natty PPA. Oct 06 05:45:32 Must fix. Oct 06 05:45:34 Almost forgot. Oct 06 05:47:08 that did not end well Oct 06 05:47:13 rsalveti: I'm changing the default ti-omap4-ppa entry to point to oneiric. Would be really nice if there was a metapackage there to install. Hint, hint. Oct 06 05:47:16 reboot and now i am console only Oct 06 05:47:27 yeah Oct 06 05:47:35 you mean in teh gui, the meta package that it cant find Oct 06 05:47:39 MrCurious_: The ti-omap4-extras may have been a bad idea. Oct 06 05:47:55 may may not be the right word Oct 06 05:48:01 wanted to test usb speed Oct 06 05:48:06 Just uninstall the packages and reboot. Oct 06 05:48:14 but installing the omap addons borked it all Oct 06 05:48:15 USB speed has nothing to do with the ti-omap stuff. Oct 06 05:48:24 but gui speed does Oct 06 05:48:31 Little bit. Oct 06 05:48:38 they really want to both be there for my usb cam speed test Oct 06 05:48:39 But such is life, until we get oneiric-compatible packages. Oct 06 05:48:49 Which better be soon. Oct 06 05:48:55 now i wonder if 10.04 has the usb fix Oct 06 05:49:11 Not that I know of. Oct 06 05:49:17 i think 10.04 does Oct 06 05:49:38 but last i tried it, it had its own issues Oct 06 05:50:20 anyone here know how to disable video out on pandaboard? i can champion this platform at work if it can go under 2 watts on average Oct 06 05:51:21 No idea. Oct 06 05:55:13 wonder how close the omap4 add ons are to being compatable Oct 06 05:57:01 I'm going to go with "not very". Oct 06 05:57:21 But we've been promised (repeatedly) that all that binary mess would be available for oneiric. Oct 06 05:57:28 "disable video" -- cut the pins :P Oct 06 05:57:30 I need to chase that up in the next week before release. Oct 06 06:00:37 * janimo goes to bed, infinity is awake. janimo gets out of bed, infinity is awake Oct 06 06:01:27 janimo: You missed the Canonical conference where I was given sleeping pills as a gag gift, clearly. Oct 06 06:01:46 for sure I did Oct 06 06:05:11 infinity: did they work? Oct 06 06:05:22 twb: Dunno, didn't try 'em. Oct 06 07:02:53 jcrigby: While I'm pinging you with overnight questions, linux-meta-linaro is horribly out of date, and even if it wasn't, it'll not be vaguely broken because two linaro sources (s5pv310 and u8500) haven't been updated to 3.0.0-1007.9 Oct 06 07:03:09 jcrigby: Can we either drop things you're no longer supporting, up upload new versions of those? :P Oct 06 07:04:36 Are those packages the linaro kernel, built with stock ubuntu GCC? or built with linaro gcc? Oct 06 07:11:28 Ubuntu GCC is Linaro GCC, more or less. Oct 06 07:11:36 We pull from them. Oct 06 07:11:48 What, even for non-arm people? Oct 06 07:12:14 I'd have to look again, but I imagine doko has a massive from_linaro patch in the sources that's only applied on ARM builds. :P Oct 06 07:12:39 So if I'm sitting on an amd64 lucid host, that *won't* include linaro code when I just run "cc foo", right? Oct 06 07:12:50 infinity, no, applied everywhere Oct 06 07:12:52 Checking that suspicion right now. Oct 06 07:12:55 doko: Thanks. Oct 06 07:12:58 twb: I was wrong. :0 Oct 06 07:13:02 :) Oct 06 07:13:03 doko: is that just ubuntu, or is that also debian? Oct 06 07:13:12 ubuntu only Oct 06 07:13:15 OK. Oct 06 07:14:18 I have been building u-boot images with Debian armhf and armel chroots, and they don't do anything when I flash them, so my next step is to try linaro gcc Oct 06 07:14:41 I guess I can do that from an ubuntu chroot instead, which will be much easier than having to download some cross-compiler tarball blob from linaro Oct 06 07:15:10 Debian armel is armv4, so there might be differences. armhf has the same configury Oct 06 07:16:29 doko: I don't understand. Are you saying that if Debian armhf gcc generates a broken u-boot.bin, then Ubuntu armel gcc is likely to also generate a broken u-boot.bin? Oct 06 07:18:10 twb, I say that the configure command line is the same, ubuntu still has hardening enabled. I didn't check for anything else Oct 06 07:18:36 OK Oct 06 07:19:12 But the linaro patches might contain some workarounds for some funky errata on my tegra system, so I should still try it? Oct 06 07:23:46 I didn't follow the start of the discussion. sure, you can try it. or you could rebuild the gcc-4.6 debian package, enabling the linaro changes Oct 06 07:24:07 OK, thanks Oct 06 07:24:25 (You missed the start of the discussion because that happened a week ago :-) Oct 06 07:24:28 rsalveti, is qt4-x11 still built for armv6? see bug 791256 Oct 06 07:24:30 Launchpad bug 791256 in binutils "qt4-x11 version 4:4.7.3-1ubuntu1 failed to build on armel: assertion fail ../../bfd/elf32-arm.c:12008" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791256 Oct 06 08:06:38 infinity, no swap on ac100 ... i dont want to trash peoples MMCs as they are non replaceable Oct 06 08:10:35 NCommander, still around ? i need input on banshee pretty much now and there is no info on the bug about the status Oct 06 08:29:31 infinity, ARGH ! thanks for the PPA fix, how could i miss that Oct 06 09:09:34 hello everyone, where i can find the repository list for ubuntu-arm? :) Oct 06 09:30:28 oh, he's gone already Oct 06 09:32:23 anyone knows where can I buy a devboard ? Oct 06 09:32:46 try pandaboard.org Oct 06 09:34:10 tyvm :) Oct 06 10:08:12 I can't get DVI output ... some help? Oct 06 10:09:45 huge_: which board? Oct 06 10:10:11 Panda Oct 06 10:10:27 Omap4 image Oct 06 10:10:30 Are you using the right output? Oct 06 10:10:51 huge_: for me i get dvi out on the hdmi port Oct 06 10:11:08 huge_: are you trying to use two monitors at once? Oct 06 10:11:16 Only on the right port. The left one is HDMI-only. Oct 06 10:11:35 i need to connect 2 displays ... HDMI display (HDMI port) DVI display DVI-P port Oct 06 10:11:43 DVI-D Oct 06 10:12:03 Not positive it supports driving both at once. Oct 06 10:12:07 But it might. Oct 06 10:12:09 Never tried. Oct 06 10:13:14 i dont think it does atm Oct 06 10:13:49 if i'd like to have only DVI Monitor? Oct 06 10:14:07 it does not work too Oct 06 10:15:45 so Can i connect only once monitor at once? Oct 06 10:15:58 and only in HDMI output? Oct 06 10:16:13 and also wich version are u using? Oct 06 10:19:20 i tested the daily imx5 image on a imx53 quickstart board yesterday. some premissons are probably set wrong on that image , oem-setup completed sucessfully but what i observed was the following : 1. users cant run dmesg 2. dhclient cant set the routing table thus all networking was broken Oct 06 10:20:22 ogra_: GrueMaster: do you test the imx5 image regulary? Oct 06 10:20:47 xranby, janimo does, not sure how regular though Oct 06 10:21:27 ok i will retest with todays image as well.. Oct 06 10:21:50 xranby, I tested an image after beta2 but not regularly Oct 06 10:22:13 I saw the same issues - I thought dmesg permission was a new ubuntu default so did not pay attention Oct 06 10:22:47 IIRC there were discussions about turning it off. But I did not see it on other boards so likely a bug then Oct 06 10:22:51 janimo: for me gui was.. dead slow.. possibly related to sdcard performance Oct 06 10:22:57 and also I saw no network on first boot/install Oct 06 10:23:09 xranby, both GrueMaster and I found it very very slow Oct 06 10:23:59 janimo: for me the netfork information tool in the upper corner listed all obtained dhcp settings but it failed to actually setup the system wide global routing table and default gw Oct 06 10:24:12 our kernel may be buggy, linaro has more than one mx53 flavoured kernel, we may have picked one that has been less tested. I think they are at 3.0 now with mx5 Oct 06 10:24:36 after i entered the routing table manually network worked flawlessly Oct 06 10:25:09 janimo: dot he board need some driver pack to enhance gui? Oct 06 10:25:23 i think the lucid image that got shipped with the board was quite quick Oct 06 10:25:26 and snappy Oct 06 10:25:32 for gui stuff Oct 06 10:29:16 xranby, indeed, that factory image is impressively fast Oct 06 10:29:35 unfortunately freescale does not distribute their closed source graphics stack Oct 06 10:29:46 oh.. :( how sad Oct 06 10:29:47 so one cannot freely use it Oct 06 10:29:50 indeed Oct 06 10:29:50 i thought they did Oct 06 10:30:07 only for commercial partners I think and without right to redistribution Oct 06 10:30:20 I know there were various downloads on their sites but they may be incomplete Oct 06 10:38:11 ogra_: can you reming me where alsa* settings where? Oct 06 10:38:13 * xranby starts dig round on http://imxcommunity.org Oct 06 10:38:31 ogra_: dist-upgraded this morning and the audio fix it _seems_ it's not there Oct 06 10:38:35 ppisati, you mean which package or which path ? Oct 06 10:38:47 ogra_: the path where the settings where stored Oct 06 10:38:58 in /usr/share/alsa/ucm Oct 06 10:39:04 ok Oct 06 10:39:28 uhm, no Oct 06 10:39:33 it was a different one last time Oct 06 10:39:45 let me see if i can find it Oct 06 10:41:43 /var/lib/alsa/asound.state that's it Oct 06 10:42:44 ppisati: oh so i can somehow use this if i messed up the mixer settings on the ac100 ? Oct 06 10:48:39 xranby: remeber to axe it in single user mode Oct 06 10:48:56 xranby: it's regenerated during shutdown Oct 06 10:49:34 ppisati: sos boot to the rescue.. will try axe it and see what happens Oct 06 11:43:38 ppisati: \o/ i hear sound again! thanks axing that file fixed Oct 06 11:44:06 i somehow messed up when testing to use xfce4-mixer Oct 06 11:48:26 im quite impressed that runescape.com actually runs on the ac100 using software rendering .. but it could need some opengl-es acceleration Oct 06 12:06:48 xranby, using JamVM? Oct 06 12:06:57 doko: yes Oct 06 12:07:08 using jamvm Oct 06 12:07:12 on my ac100 Oct 06 12:07:16 nice Oct 06 12:08:32 doko: i start to suspect tghat the panda kernel have stability issues under heavy load Oct 06 12:08:47 thins start to lock up on the panda when i try the same Oct 06 12:08:57 like gnome-system-monitor can lock up Oct 06 12:09:19 is swap enabled? Oct 06 12:09:29 doko: no Oct 06 12:10:23 my panda is up for 30 days, running openjdk/gcc builds & tests, and some other builds. so it looks stable for me Oct 06 12:10:30 doko: great Oct 06 12:10:39 doko: do you have any usb gadget attached? Oct 06 12:10:55 is a disk a gadget? Oct 06 12:10:55 doko: if you have running it for 30 days please tell me your kernel version Oct 06 12:10:59 yes Oct 06 12:11:02 a disk are a gadeget Oct 06 12:11:44 wait, it now only 10 days after the last kernel update. 2.6.38-1208-omap4 Oct 06 12:11:57 ahh, the natty kernel ... Oct 06 12:12:00 sorry Oct 06 12:12:27 doko: thank you for reporting that it runs stable using the natty kernel :) Oct 06 12:12:47 im having issues with the oneiric kernel :/ Oct 06 12:14:14 ogra_, ^^ Oct 06 12:15:24 hmm, file a bug, i know tobin tests daily if possible, though i dont think he tests compiling or other heavy load bits Oct 06 12:15:45 ogra_: i will Oct 06 12:18:43 this probably are related the bug that jamespage filed for arm server https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-6/+bug/845158 Oct 06 12:18:45 Launchpad bug 845158 in openjdk-6 "Frequent java task hang on ARM server" [Undecided,Confirmed] Oct 06 12:25:30 hey guys, I was having a problem with oneiric on the pandaboard last night. after it went through the system configuration it just looped back to system config. any ideas? Oct 06 12:29:16 BlInK311, talk to GrueMaster (once he is up (~2h i guess)) he seems to see that as well, nobody else can reproduce it though Oct 06 12:29:40 would be good to know if you guys use the same Sd cards or some such Oct 06 12:31:48 i used a sandisk 4gb class 6 card. I think it was an extreme 3 or something. Ill can double check it if you need Oct 06 12:34:34 yesm double check with GrueMaster Oct 06 12:35:31 will do Oct 06 12:40:03 i also loaded it onto a uSD card for my beagle xm but didnt get a chance to boot it up last night Oct 06 12:40:15 heh, hrw are you worried the best-buy offer wont persist until you are in orlando ? Oct 06 12:40:24 i guess you could just buy them there Oct 06 12:43:44 ogra_: last time, when hp touchpads went to 99$, they were out in 2-3 days if not less Oct 06 12:44:26 hrw, there are likely more flyers thna touchpads in the world ... but i get what you mean Oct 06 12:48:51 after hannspad disaster I prefer to not spend too much on unknown tablets Oct 06 12:49:01 heh Oct 06 12:49:41 apart from the annoying sharp metal edges and frame i can really recommend the transformer btw Oct 06 12:53:04 too expensive Oct 06 12:57:49 ogra_: can you use the ac100 kernel on the transformer? Oct 06 12:58:51 no idea, mine runs android Oct 06 12:58:55 :) Oct 06 12:59:26 ogra_: you? android? Oct 06 12:59:35 but i know there is a transformer kernel somewhere Oct 06 12:59:44 hrw, gingerbread isnt badd Oct 06 13:00:07 ogra_: you mean honeycomb? Oct 06 13:00:15 err, yes Oct 06 13:00:21 sill ynames Oct 06 13:00:31 ogra_: 3.2 maybe. I played with 3.0 and was not so impressed Oct 06 13:00:46 ogra_: ubuntu also has silly names ;d Oct 06 13:01:10 ubuntu has cool names :) Oct 06 13:01:20 well, i'm running 3.2 here Oct 06 13:01:36 ogra_: matter of view Oct 06 13:01:42 3.2.1 actually Oct 06 13:01:50 with a new update pending apparently Oct 06 13:02:11 (asus is really fast wrt android updates) Oct 06 13:07:32 doko: i have reverted back to the natty kernel on my panda and now runescape loads past 20%updates ... looks stable *touch wood* Oct 06 13:08:49 its a quite intence cpu stress benchmark.. both cores running at 100% + disk io Oct 06 13:10:18 (loading runescape throtthes both cores up to 80% starting gnome-system-monitor chart view makes both cpu's go up to 100 Oct 06 13:26:30 infinity: why are you pinging me about the metapackage? :-) Oct 06 13:26:46 infinity: ndec should be your man for that Oct 06 13:27:13 and ndec is aware :) Oct 06 13:28:37 doko: let me check Oct 06 14:01:06 infinity, on the 4460 stuff we thought it was too late to get into image so thats why it is in proposed Oct 06 14:03:28 infinity, on the meta the unsupported platforms are out in the linaro ppa versions Oct 06 14:03:48 but it has not been uploaded to ubuntu forever Oct 06 14:08:01 ogra_: GrueMaster: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ti-omap4/+bug/869190 Oct 06 14:08:03 Launchpad bug 869190 in linux-ti-omap4 "panda-oneiric 3.0.0-1205-omap4 runescape crash running under heavy load" [Undecided,New] Oct 06 14:08:13 thanks ! Oct 06 14:42:31 GrueMaster. you on? Oct 06 14:42:56 I am. Coffee isn't. Oct 06 14:44:47 last night I had an issue with oneiric looping through the initial system config on the pandaboard. i heard you were the only other one who had this issue Oct 06 14:45:12 did you figure out what caused this? Oct 06 14:46:47 No, I haven't. I can reproduce it on several systems with several different SD cards though. The only thing I have found that seems to get around it a little is to edit /etc/fstab on the rootfs and add "discard" to the options for mounting / Oct 06 14:47:27 It slows down execution a bit, and you need to remove it after oem-config is finished. Oct 06 14:48:14 hmm... i was using a sandisk extreme 3 4gb class 6 card. dont know if you had this on this card Oct 06 14:48:37 GrueMaster, slows down ? Oct 06 14:48:46 it definitely should speed up :) Oct 06 14:49:09 Not that particular card, but on several others from 4G-16G, class 4, 6, and 10. Oct 06 14:49:10 TRIM (disacard) limits the amount fof needed writes Oct 06 14:49:34 though your HW (the card) needs to support it Oct 06 14:49:39 ogra_: Yes. it slows down a little. Not sure why. Oct 06 14:49:40 else its a noop Oct 06 14:49:52 blame the kernel :) Oct 06 14:49:52 That may be it. Oct 06 14:50:05 we had massive probs with TRIM on sandisk with the ac100 Oct 06 14:50:21 How did we miss getting openmpi 1.5.3(or 4) into the repositories? Oct 06 14:50:23 fi our kernel misses a patch on omap4 then you might get issues Oct 06 14:50:31 openmpi 1.4 is broken on ARM, and only 1.5.3 works Oct 06 14:50:48 Martyn, ask debian and the person who didnt file a bug about the breakage :) Oct 06 14:51:00 ogra_, is there any way to find out if the card supports discard? Oct 06 14:51:29 dunno Oct 06 14:51:30 * GrueMaster forages for coffee. Oct 06 14:51:42 the probs we had was with an eMMC for that it was easy to find ourt Oct 06 14:51:54 maybe I just try BLKDISCARD and see if the ioctl fails miserably? Oct 06 14:52:53 ill give the "discard" a try tonigh and see if it affects it Oct 06 15:02:49 NCommander, did you see my ping above Oct 06 15:03:06 ogra_: no, I just got up Oct 06 15:03:08 would really help if you regulary updated the bug in times where others rely on your info Oct 06 15:03:42 ogra_: if I had many ANY progress I would denote it Oct 06 15:03:58 NCommander, i needed to know about it this morning Oct 06 15:04:18 even noting down the no progress would hgave been a valuable info ;) Oct 06 15:04:35 ogra_: you could pick up your phone and call me Oct 06 15:04:40 :-P Oct 06 15:04:41 NCommander, luckily there are issues so we dont roll RCs yet Oct 06 15:05:09 NCommander, well, after i told you several times that i need to know it on thu, i was somewhat expecting it had stuck in your head :P Oct 06 15:06:01 ogra_ i'm looking to start working on getting ubuntu-arm on the toshiba thrive tablet. do you have any tips on where to start? Oct 06 15:06:15 ogra_: Both NCommander and I have been working hard on figuring out Banshee. I finally found the point of exception, but not the calling function. Oct 06 15:06:31 AustereGrim, for the rootfs i would start with ubuntu-core Oct 06 15:06:41 ok Oct 06 15:06:49 At this point, I think it would be best to dump banshee as I don't think we can get a fix anytime soon (today). Oct 06 15:07:12 GrueMaster, lets talk about tech stuff in the meeting, the point was that deadline for RC (and the possible switch to RB) was this morning EU time Oct 06 15:08:00 I was never given a deadline beyond Thursday. Oct 06 15:08:11 No time. Oct 06 15:11:13 are you guys currently working with Oneiric for arm builds? (to replace android systems) Oct 06 15:12:04 or should I attempt work with a previous release? Oct 06 15:14:53 AustereGrim: Is the Thrive using a kernel and bootloader similar to ac100? Oct 06 15:15:20 I'm not sure, I haven't touched the ac100 Oct 06 15:15:33 * ogra_ doubts that Oct 06 15:15:56 even the transformer needs its own kernel, despite the fact that they are the same SoC Oct 06 15:15:58 I doubt it too... but I do have the release of the source from toshiba Oct 06 15:16:45 well, start with ubuntu-core for a rootfs and make your kernel and bootloader work with it Oct 06 15:17:36 ok... sounds like a found starting point. I'm new to this game, so it's not going to be natural to me. Oct 06 15:18:11 well, all you need is kernel and bootloader ... and the kernel buiult with options ubuntu userspace understands Oct 06 15:19:15 ok Oct 06 15:25:10 So I've downloaded the oneiric core daily build, is this where I should start with? Oct 06 15:27:15 thats your userspacce Oct 06 15:28:40 ok I get that... and need to build a kernel that boots to this userspace Oct 06 15:29:04 right Oct 06 15:29:47 and that would be based on the linux kernel that toshiba has provided Oct 06 15:30:22 right Oct 06 15:30:34 ok, I think I see where I need to go. =) Oct 06 15:32:26 Thanks ogra_ I might be starting some work on this this weekend. I know I'm going to need you advice along the way here. Oct 06 15:32:49 well, i'm not much around on weekends, but during the week ... Oct 06 15:33:02 there are 132 people in this channel though Oct 06 15:33:08 ;) Oct 06 15:33:33 =) I work on the week days... where I'm on irc at work Oct 06 15:33:55 but weekends I'll have time to work on this project Oct 06 15:34:50 well, you are currently standing in my office (and GrueMaster's, infinity's, janimo's and NCommander's) ;) Oct 06 15:35:04 (and the office of amyn more here i guess) Oct 06 15:35:09 'many Oct 06 15:35:17 understood, and I appreciate your hospitality. ;-) Oct 06 15:53:14 jcrigby: hey, infinity seems ok to push your latest u-boot-linaro upload for the release Oct 06 15:53:21 instead of proposed Oct 06 15:53:34 as there's still time for the release, and it sounds critical enough Oct 06 15:53:46 ( I rejected it from proposed and mentioned this already ) Oct 06 15:54:10 so I just just repush to vanilla oneiric? Oct 06 15:54:14 ok Oct 06 15:56:14 jcrigby: Pretty please, yes. Oct 06 15:56:21 jcrigby: And let's talk kernels in a sec. Oct 06 15:56:47 ok Oct 06 16:06:16 ogra_: I was following. Not sure what I could have said during the meeting on the BP stuff. Oct 06 16:07:24 jcrigby: So... Oct 06 16:07:27 GrueMaster, indeed, and i dont think you should have that many specs the next cycle anyway :) Oct 06 16:07:54 infinity, yes Oct 06 16:08:26 jcrigby: Two things. Why don't linux-linaro-s5pv310 and linux-linaro-u8500 match vexpress, omap, and mx51? Oct 06 16:08:34 The main one I need to look at writing up is the bare metal automation testing. Not sure what to categorize it under, as it affects more than just arm. Oct 06 16:08:47 jcrigby: And if and when they do, we need meta-linaro updated. Oct 06 16:09:11 jcrigby: (If you have no intention of keeping all 5 sources in ABI lockstep, then the meta needs to be split out) Oct 06 16:09:15 infinity, I added them way back and they were never used for anything so finally removed them from source Oct 06 16:09:42 jcrigby: Oh, if those flavours are dead, you could always inform us and have them removed from the archive. Oct 06 16:09:52 jcrigby: Happy to purge them with fire. Oct 06 16:10:02 that would be great Oct 06 16:10:06 jcrigby: Then we'd just need a meta upload that drops those, and bumps the ABI for the other 3. Oct 06 16:10:24 (Pretty please) Oct 06 16:10:37 will do that right now Oct 06 16:10:45 \o/ Oct 06 16:24:17 * infinity needs to eat breakfast for once... Stomach is rebelling. Oct 06 16:29:32 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/338/screenshothzu.png/ coming soon XD Oct 06 16:38:20 LPhas I don't understand what I'm looking at. :-P Oct 06 16:38:33 AustereGrim, you are looking at this https://github.com/utz/SYNEplayer Oct 06 16:38:56 i made a small application that let you play several videos in synchrony Oct 06 16:39:20 i see Oct 06 16:39:55 over TCP/IP network, not only on the same machine like the screenshoots suggests Oct 06 16:40:02 ah Oct 06 16:40:04 oh Oct 06 16:40:45 using multicast? or direct connection? Oct 06 16:42:06 UDP direct connection Oct 06 16:42:16 "connection" Oct 06 16:42:32 well basically it uses Network Clocks that are an already available feature of gstreamer Oct 06 16:43:12 hrm... Oct 06 16:45:14 I'm trying to think of it's use in something.. Oct 06 16:45:47 but my requirement for it has been depreciated Oct 06 16:46:51 well it'll be used for a sort of "fake acquarium" on a cruise liner Oct 06 16:47:15 Yeah, no I see it's use in digital signage Oct 06 16:47:36 AustereGrim, "digital signage"? Oct 06 16:47:50 uh... Oct 06 16:47:57 like displays that all show the same thing Oct 06 16:48:11 oh Oct 06 16:48:12 either a video or just text Oct 06 16:48:43 mainly a public display that shows information about a topic (area, company, product) Oct 06 16:48:50 AustereGrim, oh, teah well, of course this is an application Oct 06 16:49:01 i wish i'd have a client for this XD Oct 06 16:49:14 would be the quickest job of my life XD Oct 06 16:50:32 if it works well in low bandwidth environments, and doesn't rely on broadcast (packets) then there is a use for it. but our need for it has been depreciated like I said . =( Oct 06 16:50:44 too bad :( Oct 06 16:50:49 jcrigby: Thanks for the uploads. Oct 06 16:51:03 it doens't rely on broadcast, i didn't tested the bandwith requirements Oct 06 16:51:25 i think that bandwidth can be low but latency shold be low also Oct 06 16:51:44 not more that 1/fps i think Oct 06 16:52:05 but i have no clue Oct 06 16:52:12 low bandwidth, as in wireless speeds... 54mb and less.. Oct 06 16:52:41 well, i'll be suprised if it can't work in such enviroment Oct 06 16:52:53 but the real syncronization code is not made by me Oct 06 16:52:55 so i've no clue Oct 06 16:53:09 well good work and good luck Oct 06 16:53:19 heh thx for the "good luck" Oct 06 16:53:28 they should approve another project based on this Oct 06 16:53:37 with 10 pandaboards and 10 hdtv Oct 06 16:53:42 this would be fun Oct 06 16:54:50 LPhas that's kind of what we've been working with, but it's been depreciated from streaming video, to small boxes behind hdtvs displaying a webpage/slideshow Oct 06 16:55:57 less bandwitdh if it's just displaying a webpage... than pushing video stream to each client box Oct 06 16:56:21 well, in my design at the moment every box will have his video Oct 06 16:56:32 because the video is static and this solution is way simpler Oct 06 16:56:38 bbiaf Oct 06 16:56:40 so no streaming at all Oct 06 17:07:28 GrueMaster: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/geoclue seems to have a whole lot of dupes of your geoclue crash. :P Oct 06 17:08:11 Oh, most of which might be private due to stacktraces being attached. Oct 06 17:08:29 But I see 19 dupes. Oct 06 17:09:02 infinity, and someone in -devel bringing up the same bugs once an hour Oct 06 17:09:59 * infinity wonders what team he's in that's letting him see all the bugs... Oct 06 17:18:08 bug-control team Oct 06 17:19:44 Just did a dist-upgrade Oct 06 17:30:12 lol i so was on the wrong channel Oct 06 17:30:25 i tought i was on #gstreamer when i posted my app XD Oct 06 17:31:17 LPhas: But does it run on arm? Oct 06 17:31:33 GrueMaster, well not tested but should be Oct 06 17:31:46 i mean, gstreamer usually works on a pandaboard Oct 06 17:32:07 should work just fine or so i hope since i will need to use that on the panda Oct 06 17:55:42 lol @ LPhas I was wondering why you posted here... kind of off topic. Oct 06 17:57:29 AustereGrim: If it runs on ubuntu arm images, than it is PDC info. (Pretty Damn Cool). :P Oct 06 18:07:21 gruemaster: tried the 11.10 last night, and it went cripled as soon as i added omap4 add ons Oct 06 18:09:36 ok. have you filed a bug yet? Oct 06 18:09:47 I'm currently tracking down banshee issues. Oct 06 18:10:03 i dodnt want to have to lissen to grey clouds again Oct 06 18:10:18 heh Oct 06 18:10:38 i need to wake up more before i try to spell/type Oct 06 18:28:19 since i got the time, lets try todays fresh-hot-one Oct 06 18:35:54 * GrueMaster wonders if the banshee failure is related to no 3D (and no clutter) support. Oct 06 18:37:20 GrueMaster, hmm, might be, though its should fall back to SW rendering Oct 06 18:38:29 Red herring. debian/rules shows --disable-clutter Oct 06 18:38:52 good Oct 06 18:39:04 clutter will bite us badly next release Oct 06 18:39:17 no this one though :) Oct 06 18:40:47 Interesting. The packages builds with --enable-meego, then deletes the meego related files. Oct 06 18:41:27 heh Oct 06 19:07:17 AustereGrim, eheh, found some audience btw XD Oct 06 19:10:13 gruemaster: my camera is getting 102FPS, up from < 29FPS major improvement. suspect only thing keeping it from 125fps is not having omap4 video drivers... Oct 06 19:10:53 Cool. Oct 06 19:10:58 yes, very! Oct 06 19:11:06 his will come together nicely soon Oct 06 19:18:20 Just trying to install ubuntu-omap4-extras to my pandaboard on oneric Oct 06 19:18:21 Ive added the PPA, but that meta package doesnt exist Oct 06 19:18:21 any ideas? Oct 06 19:19:29 i think omap4 add ons arent yet ready for 11.10 Oct 06 19:19:50 Guest83239: They haven't been pushed yet from upstream. Word is "soon". Oct 06 19:20:42 any way to get them 'in development' Oct 06 19:21:06