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Oct 22 05:19:51 <nathanel>  i really need help getting this done, it really pisses the ell outta me: i've downloaded ubuntu11.10 omap4 to use on PB, and the installer always resets and never completes... i use dd.... && sync as sudo
Oct 22 05:22:29 <nathanel> help?
Oct 22 05:25:31 <nathanel>  i really need help getting this done, it really pisses the ell outta me: i've downloaded ubuntu11.10 omap4 to use on PB, and the installer always resets and never completes... i use dd.... && sync as sudo
Oct 22 05:32:40 <stlsaint> Lopi: you still around?
Oct 22 12:10:27 <hoshi411> has anyone had experience using  update.zip in microSD on asus transformer?
Oct 22 17:18:47 <MMlosh> Ubuntu's do-release-upgrade is behaving very unprofessinally when ran from VT1..  it calls  "xset" every other while..  now it made a pattern exclusively from 'xset: unable to open display ""  ' messages
Oct 22 17:19:12 <MMlosh> (upgrading pandaboard's natty to oneiric..  may be still off-topic, though)
Oct 22 17:21:36 <MMlosh> The messages also weird-up the "place where new line appears"   next line starts at the horizontal position where the xset line ended
Oct 22 17:40:44 <MMlosh> oh great.. I missed a "user action needed" thing that asks  yes/no/details..     The message got scrolled away with the xset junk
Oct 22 20:21:48 <FernandoMiguel> I assume using an arm device with a arm distro/OS will still impact 3rd party apps that are available to x86 even if source is available, correct?
Oct 22 20:21:56 <FernandoMiguel> stuff like flash or dropbox
Oct 22 20:46:45 <phh> FernandoMiguel: if sources are available, it should be almost easy to port
Oct 22 20:47:04 <phh> there could be some problems on stuff with asm
Oct 22 20:47:07 <FernandoMiguel> phh: oh really? good to know
Oct 22 20:47:27 <phh> it's complicated to do softwares not arm compatible
Oct 22 20:47:44 <phh> i just can't see how you could do that without doing assembly
Oct 22 20:48:09 <FernandoMiguel> I'm in need of a new laptop. old one GPU died. considering trying to find an ARM powered device. but afaikt only ac100 is currently available
Oct 22 20:53:11 <Quintasan> lilstevie: ping
Oct 22 20:55:20 <phh> FernandoMiguel: there are some cortex A8 stuff
Oct 22 20:56:11 <phh> (efika mx or or hercules eCafe)
Oct 22 20:56:16 <FernandoMiguel> :\
Oct 22 20:56:33 <phh> (i'd say ac100 is best value)
Oct 22 20:56:34 <MMlosh> but nothing that would look like a normal laptop I guess
Oct 22 20:56:59 <phh> MMlosh: it's hard for an arm laptop to be has heavy as an x86 laptop indeed
Oct 22 20:57:10 <MMlosh> I said "look like"
Oct 22 20:57:21 <MMlosh> weight is not part of looks..  but I agree :P
Oct 22 20:57:22 <phh> can you be a bit more specific ?
Oct 22 20:57:43 <phh> only things that are not ""laptop-like"" is that there is no HDD, and really little ram
Oct 22 20:57:44 <MMlosh> arm laptop that is not freakishly small
Oct 22 20:58:00 <phh> ah, like 14" ?
Oct 22 20:58:22 <MMlosh> maybe.. I am not sure how big that would be
Oct 22 20:58:32 <phh> k
Oct 22 20:58:42 <phh> well for me 10" is the right size ... :p but i get your point
Oct 22 20:59:34 <FernandoMiguel> I'm looking for bigger
Oct 22 20:59:41 <MMlosh> I got a 15" right now.. 14" would be probably okay
Oct 22 20:59:42 <FernandoMiguel> I already had 13 and 12"
Oct 22 21:00:26 <FernandoMiguel> but if light weight, I'm sure I would be fine on 14 or 15"
Oct 22 21:01:12 <FernandoMiguel> not using extra FANs or rotatory HDD, cdrom drive, or powerful GPU, you can strip some extra chassis
Oct 22 21:01:47 <phh> well, for the thickness, just see ac100's
Oct 22 21:02:56 <phh> (and it already has a lot of free space available :p)
Oct 23 00:13:16 <lilstevie> Quintasan: pong
Oct 23 00:14:22 <lilstevie> phh: you should also look at the tf for size, it is similar size to most netbooks
Oct 23 00:15:00 <phh> tf ?
Oct 23 00:15:15 <lilstevie> transformer
Oct 23 00:15:27 <phh> way out of price for me
Oct 23 00:15:34 <lilstevie> yeah, true
Oct 23 00:15:36 <lilstevie> that is a killer
Oct 23 00:15:57 <lilstevie> although with the keyboard dock attached it has 2 3600mAh batteries
Oct 23 00:16:08 <phh> i've got 2 3600mAh batteries here too :D
Oct 23 00:16:15 <lilstevie> nice :D
Oct 23 00:16:15 <phh> err perhaps not 3600
Oct 23 00:16:19 <phh> could be 2200
Oct 23 00:16:23 <phh> lilstevie: just not hot swappable yet -_-'
Oct 23 00:16:27 <lilstevie> what kind of battery life do you get
Oct 23 00:16:37 <lilstevie> yeah mine aren't hot swappable either
Oct 23 00:16:42 <phh> 6-8 hours per battery
Oct 23 00:16:48 <lilstevie> one is in the tablet part, the other is in the dock
Oct 23 00:16:53 <phh> lilstevie: yeah well but you can have both connected at the same time.
Oct 23 00:17:00 <lilstevie> I get close to 10h per battery
Oct 23 00:17:05 <lilstevie> and yeah true
Oct 23 00:17:33 <phh> with wifi ?
Oct 23 00:17:35 <lilstevie> on average I get 19.5 hours between charges
Oct 23 00:17:38 <lilstevie> yeah, and bt
Oct 23 00:17:58 <lilstevie> I don't rf kill either device, wifi is always connected, bt is on, but not connected
Oct 23 00:18:01 <phh> (without wifi ac100 eats 1W less -_-')
Oct 23 00:18:16 <lilstevie> nice
Oct 23 00:18:25 <phh> not really
Oct 23 00:18:28 <phh> that means wifi chip totally sucks
Oct 23 00:18:34 <lilstevie> ah true
Oct 23 00:18:57 <lilstevie> I am very internet centric, so I have no idea what radioless power draw is
Oct 23 00:19:30 <phh> what is your wifi chip ?
Oct 23 00:19:38 <lilstevie> BCM4329
Oct 23 00:20:04 <phh> a mobile one, not like ac100's.
Oct 23 00:20:08 <lilstevie> ah
Oct 23 00:20:14 <phh> on ac100 it's just a stupid usb wifi thing
Oct 23 00:20:27 <lilstevie> which one?
Oct 23 00:20:35 <phh> rt2830
Oct 23 00:21:59 <lilstevie> ah
Oct 23 00:22:48 <lilstevie> the other tegra device I have has a power hungry wifi chipset, but it isn't important, cause it has no battery
Oct 23 00:23:28 <phh> trimslice ?
Oct 23 00:23:33 <lilstevie> yeah
Oct 23 00:24:46 <phh> well ac100 is low power only because it's based on tegra2, not because toshiba anyhow tried to make it low power
Oct 23 00:24:52 <lilstevie> where did that libflashplayer.so come from btw
Oct 23 00:24:59 <phh> atrix
Oct 23 00:25:03 <lilstevie> ah
Oct 23 00:25:07 <phh> their dock uses a plain L4T
Oct 23 00:25:18 <lilstevie> ah I see
Oct 23 00:27:01 <lilstevie> I have been using it on my tf, I was just wondering what was so special about it, cause a newer version would be nice
Oct 23 00:28:05 <phh> well just check atrix's updates and see if there is a newer libflashplayer.so in it :p
Oct 23 00:30:05 <lilstevie> :p
Oct 23 00:30:23 <lilstevie> now that I know where it is from I can :p
Oct 23 02:11:41 <tony_abad> Hi.  Does anyone know where I can grab the kernel headers for kernel 3.0.4-x3?
Oct 23 02:45:36 <tony_abad> Hi.  Does anyone know where I can grab the kernel headers for kernel 3.0.4-x3?
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