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Oct 24 06:02:43 <Netham45> I'm using a Tegra-2 powered tablet, anyone know if there are any better drivers for the GPU out there other than the one nvidia released in July?\
Oct 24 06:05:39 <twb> l4t is the only driver I know about
Oct 24 06:06:06 <Netham45> Yea, that's the one I'm using. It's not too feature-rich
Oct 24 06:06:15 <Netham45> OpenGL seems to be crapping itself on it
Oct 24 06:07:16 <twb> Netham45: you're not making me feel any better about buying one
Oct 24 06:07:31 <Netham45> heh
Oct 24 06:07:49 <Netham45> I like it so far, it seems to be working pretty good, I just can't get Minecraft to run on it. :(
Oct 24 06:08:24 <Netham45> If you're getting one for Android, Android runs pretty well on it.
Oct 24 06:35:36 <twb> Flipping kids and their minecraft
Oct 24 06:38:03 <Netham45> lol
Oct 24 06:38:15 <twb> Get off my lawn
Oct 24 06:38:24 <Netham45> Nope.
Oct 24 06:38:31 <Netham45> Know of anything I could use to OC my tegra?
Oct 24 06:38:39 <Netham45> I was able to get 1.5GHz stable on android
Oct 24 06:39:48 <twb> NFI
Oct 24 07:08:26 <lilstevie> minecraft will be a problem
Oct 24 07:08:34 <lilstevie> that is openGL and we only have EGL
Oct 24 07:08:43 <lilstevie> plus you need to import the natives yourself
Oct 24 07:09:08 <phh> bah qemu for natives
Oct 24 07:09:12 <phh> and software GL
Oct 24 07:09:13 <phh> :D
Oct 24 07:09:25 <lilstevie> heh
Oct 24 07:09:42 <lilstevie> but more importantly, lack of proper java is the actual issue for minecraft
Oct 24 07:09:54 <lilstevie> nothing to do with the graphics drivers :p
Oct 24 07:12:06 <suihkulokki> "just" get icedrobot working and you could run the android minecraft =)
Oct 24 07:12:24 <lilstevie> android minecraft is fail
Oct 24 07:12:28 <lilstevie> like super fail
Oct 24 07:13:25 <suihkulokki> ok.. I remember someone telling me he liked it
Oct 24 07:13:38 <lilstevie> lol
Oct 24 11:27:27 <decoder> hey :)
Oct 24 11:27:51 <decoder> I followed the steps at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch to get an arm system running in qemu
Oct 24 11:27:55 <decoder> I see the kernel booting
Oct 24 11:28:12 <decoder> but at some point it switches to blank screen
Oct 24 11:28:16 <decoder> any idea?
Oct 24 11:28:47 <ogra_> did you build something that uses X ?
Oct 24 11:29:08 <ogra_> or is it supposed to just boot to a console ?
Oct 24 11:30:46 <decoder> ogra_: no X
Oct 24 11:30:48 <decoder> i used
Oct 24 11:31:02 <decoder> --seed build-essential,openssh-server
Oct 24 11:31:04 <decoder> with rootstock
Oct 24 11:31:08 <decoder> is that insufficient?
Oct 24 11:31:27 <ogra_> no, that should be fine for a console login
Oct 24 11:32:49 <decoder> I think the last message im seeing is the one before it switches to init
Oct 24 11:32:53 <decoder> this "free memory" message
Oct 24 11:36:41 <decoder> ogra_: yep, "Freeing init memory: 152K" then it switches font, then it blanks the screen, cursor is blinking though
Oct 24 11:45:43 <decoder> ogra_: ive checked the syslog and there are some additional messages
Oct 24 11:46:01 <decoder> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1363920
Oct 24 11:47:57 <ogra_> hmm, do you use "splash" on your kernel commandline ?
Oct 24 11:48:02 <ogra_> if so, drop it
Oct 24 11:48:50 <ogra_> (also note that rootstock is largely unmaintained, if you try to build oneiric i dont think anyone tested that)
Oct 24 11:53:20 <decoder> ogra_: there's no splash on command line
Oct 24 11:53:37 <decoder> and I would prefer any working version, not necessarily oneiric
Oct 24 11:53:39 <ogra_> well, then that message is probably moot
Oct 24 11:53:48 <ogra_> what HW do you use there ?
Oct 24 11:54:08 <decoder> on the qemu cmdline?
Oct 24 11:54:15 <ogra_> yes
Oct 24 11:54:26 <decoder> I tried
Oct 24 11:54:27 <decoder> -M versatilepb -cpu cortex-a8
Oct 24 11:54:29 <decoder> and -M versatilepb -cpu cortex-a9
Oct 24 11:54:39 <decoder> I also tried other boards to get more ram but I had even less success with those
Oct 24 11:54:42 <ogra_> try vexpress and find a vexpress netboot kernel
Oct 24 11:54:59 <decoder> ok will try
Oct 24 11:55:01 <ogra_> i dont think we still support versatile
Oct 24 11:55:10 <decoder> I took what was on the wiki
Oct 24 11:55:15 <ogra_> at least not the -a8 hack
Oct 24 11:56:23 <decoder> ogra_: any hint where to get the kernel from?
Oct 24 11:56:40 <ogra_> there should be some netinstall image somewhere
Oct 24 11:56:53 <ogra_> search for it, no idea where it is, we dont maintain it
Oct 24 11:57:15 <decoder> okay
Oct 24 11:57:22 <lilstevie> ogra_: what ever happened to "splash
Oct 24 11:57:23 <lilstevie> "
Oct 24 11:57:27 <decoder> thanks for your help so far :)
Oct 24 11:57:36 <ogra_> lilstevie, nothing, why do you ask ?
Oct 24 11:57:39 <decoder> mozilla appreciates :D
Oct 24 11:58:04 <lilstevie> ogra_: cause it used to work for me but doesn't anymore
Oct 24 11:58:31 <ogra_> decoder, http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/oneiric/main/installer-armel/current/images/linaro-vexpress/netboot/
Oct 24 11:58:55 <ogra_> lilstevie, ask slangasek, i think he fiddled with vesa vs fbdev during oneiric
Oct 24 11:59:04 <decoder> ogra_: thx! :)
Oct 24 11:59:22 <ogra_> (us pacific TZ, so it might still be a while until he gets up)
Oct 24 11:59:35 <lilstevie> ogra_: ah ok
Oct 24 11:59:50 <ogra_> i dont see issues on omap or ac100 here though
Oct 24 12:00:06 <ogra_> (omap4 that is)
Oct 24 12:01:14 <lilstevie> yeah, it works fine on the SGT
Oct 24 12:01:38 <lilstevie> but I need to push vol-down, or arrow key down on the keyboard for the splash to actually show
Oct 24 12:02:23 <decoder> ogra_: problems solved, you rock! :)
Oct 24 12:02:29 <ogra_> :)
Oct 24 12:02:52 <ogra_> lilstevie, sounds liek it shows up on the wrong tty then
Oct 24 12:03:27 <lilstevie> hm
Oct 24 12:03:46 <ogra_> i can switch back and forth during boot with alt left/right
Oct 24 12:05:01 <lilstevie> hm
Oct 24 12:07:04 <ogra_> so i woulod guess the key combo you use assembles atl-left or right
Oct 24 12:10:18 <lilstevie> maybe
Oct 24 12:10:35 <lilstevie> I have the same function on all the android based devices I have run
Oct 24 12:10:53 <lilstevie> like on the SGT7" back at 10.10 it did the same thing
Oct 24 12:11:00 <lilstevie> and SGS i9k on 11.04
Oct 24 12:46:05 <MKO> hello
Oct 24 12:46:24 <MKO> I need some help with the SGX540 drivers installation on a Pandaboard (ARM OMAP4)
Oct 24 12:46:53 <MKO> I can't get them from TI's PPA ; it says there are unresolved dependencies. In the end it says i need "dkms"
Oct 24 12:47:08 <MKO> When I try to install it it tries to compiles stuff, but there are errors
Oct 24 12:47:24 <MKO> it says it can't find "linux/config.h" (looks like he's trying to build with my kernel sources ??)
Oct 24 12:47:39 <MKO> (is it normal it's so difficult to get/install those drivers?)
Oct 24 12:47:48 <MKO> If someone could help me, would be great :)
Oct 24 12:56:34 <ogra_> the PPA packages require that you use the packaged kernel (and its headers)
Oct 24 12:56:55 <ogra_> if you have a self built kernel you also need to build the drivers yourself, we dont support that
Oct 24 12:57:27 <Quintasan> lilstevie: ping? :)
Oct 24 12:58:18 <lilstevie> Quintasan: kinda pong
Oct 24 12:59:09 <Quintasan> lilstevie: Oh I see. I've tried digging through the thread on XDA but I gave up halfway, is it possible to have Android + CWM + Ubuntu on Transformer?
Oct 24 12:59:17 <lilstevie> no
Oct 24 12:59:39 <Quintasan> lilstevie: I see, one more thing, why there is nothing in Tegra PPA?
Oct 24 12:59:47 <lilstevie> not without using the update.zip method
Oct 24 13:00:08 <lilstevie> there is nothing in the Tegra PPA because it doesn't allow me to upload code for arm :(
Oct 24 13:00:15 <Quintasan> Aw damn
Oct 24 13:00:58 <lilstevie> I am getting ready for an accelerated release though
Oct 24 13:02:22 <Quintasan_> lilstevie: Uh sorry, I must have missed some lines from you, can we get accelerated gfx in transformer with Ubuntu
Oct 24 13:02:24 <Quintasan_> ?
Oct 24 13:02:37 <lilstevie> with what I am working on fixing up now yeah
Oct 24 13:03:09 <Quintasan> lilstevie: Splendid. And how does the update.zip method works?
Oct 24 13:03:30 * Quintasan successfuly deployed natty on Transfomer but he needs oneiric
Oct 24 13:03:33 <lilstevie> the update.zip method works by swapping kernels with CWM
Oct 24 13:03:48 <lilstevie> I don't like it
Oct 24 13:04:03 <Quintasan> lilstevie: Do you have any ideas for a workaround?
Oct 24 13:04:08 <lilstevie> none
Oct 24 13:04:30 <Quintasan> Oh well, if only I knew how to make nvflashable backup of my current revolver install
Oct 24 13:04:34 <lilstevie> well nothing anywhere near usable
Oct 24 13:05:48 <Quintasan> lilstevie: Okay then, any ETA to accelerated release?
Oct 24 13:06:01 <lilstevie> well,
Oct 24 13:06:11 <lilstevie> I am fixing the kernel at the moment
Oct 24 13:06:22 <lilstevie> just got the kernel booting on the asus bootloader
Oct 24 13:06:48 <lilstevie> need to fix up a few things
Oct 24 13:08:08 <Quintasan> lilstevie: Any ideas on creating a nvflash-compatible backup of what I currently have?
Oct 24 13:08:19 <lilstevie> follow the backup thread
Oct 24 13:08:49 <Quintasan> durr, googled the wrong term and wondered why I get no results
Oct 24 13:10:35 <Quintasan> lilstevie: Well then. Thanks. I'll backup and put Ubuntu back on :)
Oct 24 15:17:48 <decoder> ogra_: do you happen do know if the vexpress-a9 requires any special driver for the qemu storage to be recognized?
Oct 24 15:17:55 <decoder> i cant seem to get it to find the root filesystem
Oct 24 15:18:06 <ogra_> no idea, linaro maintains this kernel
Oct 24 15:18:18 <decoder> ah ok
Oct 24 15:18:24 <ogra_> ask over there :)
Oct 24 15:44:55 <dmart> decoder: try pm215 on #linaro
Oct 24 15:50:22 <dtrg> Hello --- I gather the Ubuntu armhf build farm is now running. Does anyone know where the packages are going?
Oct 24 15:50:40 <ogra_> infinity, ^^^
Oct 24 16:02:30 <infinity> dtrg: You gather incorrectly, though it will be Soon(tm)
Oct 24 16:04:31 <dtrg> Is there any good source of information on this sort of thing? Right now my only source of news is to bug people on IRC.
Oct 24 16:05:01 <decoder> dmart: i already got help on #linaro, thanks!
Oct 24 16:05:02 <infinity> Not really.  It's sort of a "wait until it shows up on the mirrors" thing.
Oct 24 16:05:13 <dtrg> That'll be ports.ubuntu.org?
Oct 24 16:05:14 <dmart> decoder: ok, cool (I wasn't watching)
Oct 24 16:05:19 <infinity> Yeah.
Oct 24 16:05:34 <dtrg> Any ETA, or is it currently Unknown/Ask Again Later?
Oct 24 16:05:36 <decoder> dmart: the problem was, with vexpress you can only use sd images
Oct 24 16:05:46 <decoder> so I created an sd image as described on the linaro wiki
Oct 24 16:05:47 <infinity> dtrg: I'm trying to avoid making promises, but "soon".
Oct 24 16:05:48 <decoder> and that worked fine
Oct 24 16:05:59 <dtrg> Fairy nuff.
Oct 24 16:47:04 <slangasek> ogra_, lilstevie: the only change in oneiric is to use vesa as a fallback in the initramfs when no framebuffer is available; now, there are races here, so it may be we need a longer sleep on armel
Oct 24 16:47:38 <ogra_> slangasek, well, it works fine on ac100, omap and omap4, note that lilstevie builds custom images for unsupported HW
Oct 24 16:47:49 <ogra_> might even be a kernel option thats missing, not sure
Oct 24 16:51:25 <rcn-ee> hey guys, offhand do you remember the webaddress showing the active status of all the builds for armel.. (so i can watch the progress of armhf. .;) )
Oct 24 16:53:42 <ogra_> rcn-ee, http://launchpad.net/builders ?
Oct 24 16:54:50 <rcn-ee> thanks ogra_ , but i have that one.. it was an non launchpad domain, (probally someone's personal) just showing which packages where failing/etc..
Oct 24 16:55:17 <ogra_> oh, the ftbfs list you mean
Oct 24 16:55:25 <rcn-ee> ah, that sounds like it..
Oct 24 16:55:28 <ogra_> qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/
Oct 24 16:55:51 <rcn-ee> ah perfect, thanks ogra_ bookmarked this time.. ;)
Oct 24 16:55:56 <ogra_> :)
Oct 24 19:38:03 <tony_abad> Hi folks.  Can anyone point me to where I can find the kernel headers for Linux kernel build 3.0.4-x3?  I'm trying to compile a kernel module on a beagle board.
Oct 24 19:49:11 <infinity> tony_abad: That doesn't sound like the versioning of any Ubuntu kernel.
Oct 24 19:49:36 <infinity> tony_abad: So, you might want to ask the people you got the kernel image from?
Oct 24 20:07:30 <rbelem> hi ogra_, rsalveti
Oct 24 20:08:14 <rbelem> what is the default compiler for arm arm-linux-gnueabi or arm-linux-gnueabihf?
Oct 24 20:08:17 <rbelem> :-)
Oct 24 20:43:08 <infinity> rbelem: armel is arm-linux-gnueabi
Oct 24 20:45:21 <rbelem> thanks infinity :-)
Oct 25 01:35:16 <jkfangTW> I have trouble on setting up phonon with gstreamer on Maverick (10.10), cause only streamer support TI's hardware codec.
Oct 25 01:35:46 <jkfangTW> Does anyone has familiar experience on pandaboard ?
Oct 25 01:37:10 <jkfangTW> I install phonon via synaptic, and it install its xine as its backend. But This does not support Hardware Codec.
Oct 25 01:38:17 <jkfangTW> Then I install phonon-backend-gstreamer via synaptic, but it does go well.
Oct 25 01:39:07 <jkfangTW> it doesn't go well.
Oct 25 02:06:09 <twb> Isn't phonon the KDE4 thing?
Oct 25 02:20:15 <jkfangTW> yes, but I want to write QT application on pandaboard. And most of qt library is ready, except Phonon with HW codec.
Oct 25 02:20:44 <twb> Why would phonon be talking to GNOME's audio libraries?
Oct 25 02:21:49 <jkfangTW> You can put any libs you like on ubuntu....
Oct 25 02:22:35 <jkfangTW> run gnome but use qtlib, which is my case.
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