**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 26 02:59:57 2011 Oct 26 12:21:28 hp + calxeda: did you read it? :) Oct 26 12:21:30 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/26/hp_calxeda/ Oct 26 12:22:46 I see that armhf isn't listed on https://launchpad.net/builders --- is the armhf farm not running yet, or is it too new to be on that page? Oct 26 12:23:29 ppisati, i guess we will see a lot HP people at UDS then :) Oct 26 12:23:36 at least server guys Oct 26 12:24:10 (HP just committed to the ubuntu cloud as their default linux server option before) Oct 26 12:26:26 ogra_: orly? [citation needed] :) Oct 26 12:26:47 soren, ?? Oct 26 12:27:12 ogra_: "(HP just committed to the ubuntu cloud as their default linux server option before)" <--- Where was this announced? Oct 26 12:28:19 soren, http://cloud.ubuntu.com/2011/10/ubuntu-powers-hp-public-cloud/ Oct 26 12:28:33 also on plenty of news sites if you google for "HP ubuntu could" Oct 26 12:29:04 ogra_: Oh, I missed the part about it being the lead guest OS as well. Thanks! Oct 26 12:29:12 :) Oct 26 12:29:35 i would have expected especially *you* to know about it :) Oct 26 12:30:00 haha Oct 26 12:30:18 that was fairly big news Oct 26 12:32:18 lilstevie, well, and soren is an ubuntu cloud guy :) Oct 26 12:32:42 I blame jetlag at the time :) Oct 26 12:32:43 figured Oct 26 12:33:29 soren, you are already in orlando ? Oct 26 12:33:43 ogra_: is there a chan where the guys that did the AC100 kernel are? Oct 26 12:33:50 ogra_: No. I arrive on SUnday. Oct 26 12:34:01 I have a few questions, trying to fix up my 2.6.38 kernel Oct 26 12:34:34 ogra_: I thought this week was Somehands or whatnot? Oct 26 12:34:36 lilstevie, #ac100, look for marvin24, though he is usually around here as well if he is online ... and phh did the very first porting of the original android kernel Oct 26 12:34:41 ogra_: What am I missing out on? :) Oct 26 12:34:49 soren, Dx sprint i think Oct 26 12:34:59 ogra_: ah k, I am interested in the 2.6.38 kernel stuff Oct 26 12:35:03 ogra_: Why would I attend that? :D Oct 26 12:35:11 soren, no idea, i fly to maine tomorrow and only move on on sunday Oct 26 12:35:30 soren, just because you blamed your jetlag :) Oct 26 12:35:59 ogra_: Oh, no, I was jetlagged when that HP cloud press release went out. Oct 26 12:36:04 ah Oct 26 12:36:23 i thought you were actually attending the talk in person Oct 26 12:36:56 I would have, but I had to leave early. My daughter turned 3 years old that day. Oct 26 12:37:14 oh, indeed, thats more important Oct 26 14:25:39 Hi, I need help installing a kernel module on a beagle board running ubuntu arm. Oct 26 14:26:38 modprobe ? Oct 26 14:27:09 I wish it was that easy. I need to compile a kernel module from source. The problem is that there seems to be some missing header files in the kernel header source directory. Oct 26 14:27:45 for example, irq.h wants to include irqs.h from the mach directory. But there is no irqs.h header in that directory. Oct 26 14:27:49 did you install the package already ? Oct 26 14:28:06 (to get the headers) Oct 26 14:28:49 i did. installed the 3.0.4-x3 image Oct 26 14:29:03 and the respective headers package ? Oct 26 14:29:28 and got the headers from http://rcn-ee.net/deb/sid/v3.0.4-x3/ Oct 26 14:29:33 the image package only carries binaries Oct 26 14:29:50 that cant work Oct 26 14:29:54 its a debian package Oct 26 14:30:07 our kernels are built completely different from debians Oct 26 14:30:19 ok. where can i grab the header files from? Oct 26 14:30:25 you need to use the ubuntu linux-image and linux-headers packages Oct 26 14:30:33 apt-get source indeed Oct 26 14:31:08 theoretically they should be preinstalled on all our images Oct 26 14:31:48 apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) didn't fetch me anything. Oct 26 14:31:55 that is, for 3.0.4-x3 Oct 26 14:32:00 but you are using an official image ? Oct 26 14:32:17 i'm using the 3.0.4-x3 image from that website. Oct 26 14:32:25 sigh Oct 26 14:32:33 what did you install as OS there Oct 26 14:32:51 did you use an official ubuntu image Oct 26 14:33:05 or something from some third party which we cant help with Oct 26 14:33:52 i dont think it was from a 3rd party. a fellow engineer said he installed that ubuntu arm kernel. i got the board...it's an 11.04 ubuntu server distro. the kernel is 3.0.4-x3. thats all i know. Oct 26 14:33:59 (if it wasnt an official ubuntu beagle install, please talk to the third party whose image you used) Oct 26 14:34:23 tony_abad, well, you are already not using an ubuntu but a debian kernel package on your image Oct 26 14:34:35 so please talk to the person providing that kernel to you Oct 26 14:34:55 we cant help here, the default ubuntu images have everything preinstalled you need to compile a kernel module Oct 26 14:36:29 unfortunately, i dont have the answer right now about from where the image was required. but lemme step back and ask two possibly noobish questions. first, do you know if the latest official ubuntu release (11.10) works with the beagle board? Oct 26 14:37:11 nevermind the second question. just that one question. Oct 26 14:37:13 it does, there are some issues reported with beagle XM revC and USB though Oct 26 14:37:25 all others should work OOTB Oct 26 14:38:08 the official images can be found via https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAP Oct 26 14:38:19 ok, that's good to know. from what i remember, my co-worker had to find a patched version of 11.04, but I don't know if it was because it was revC. ogra_ , thank you for your assistance and your patience. have a good day. Oct 26 14:39:22 youre welcome :) Oct 26 15:12:20 I see that armhf isn't listed on https://launchpad.net/builders --- is the armhf farm not running yet, or is it too new to be on that page? Oct 26 15:19:25 dtrg: it is still being bootstrapped. should be online soonish. Check back after UDS next week. Oct 26 15:20:57 ogra_: what's up with the ac100 audio? I only have `controls for HP, but no sound. Oct 26 15:21:28 Latest kernel in Oneiric-proposed (I think). Oct 26 15:25:43 UDS? Oct 26 15:26:55 Ubuntu Developers Summit. Where we figure out what we're doing for the next 6 months. Oct 26 15:27:13 Aha. Right. Oct 26 15:27:26 Where's a good place to get information on this stuff, other than hassling people on IRC? Oct 26 15:28:13 heh. http://uds.ubuntu.com Oct 26 15:28:35 Really thinking of the progress of the armhf port here. Oct 26 15:29:51 Well, it may be a bit slow, gettingeverything ported and tested. But it should be smoother than armv7/thumb2. Oct 26 15:30:18 I have a shiny new AC100. Ubuntu armel runs fine on it, but running armel on a Tegra2 seems a bit of a waste. Oct 26 15:30:54 yep. I'm on one now, building banshee Oct 26 15:32:21 Currently I'm running Debian, but Debian don't have AC100 kernels working properly yet --- no partition table support, so they're a pain to upgrade, and it's rather unstable. So I'm really looking forward to Ubuntu armhf becoming usable. Oct 26 15:32:50 Rumour has it that multiarch will let me install armel and then upgrade to armhf later. Is this realistic? Oct 26 15:33:45 I don't know. slangasek might have some insights on this though. He's been spearheading multiarch. Oct 26 15:34:24 OK. Oct 26 15:34:29 But I'm sure that if someone says it is supported, I'll have to test it. :) Oct 26 15:34:52 It's a tough job, but somebody's got to do it... Oct 26 15:36:15 That's why I'm here. I find the bugs that make engineer's brains bleed. Oct 26 15:49:09 dtrg, GrueMaster: sure, it will be possible to cross-grade from armel to armhf, with a little work Oct 26 15:49:24 there's one library outstanding that I haven't converted yet which is a prerequisite (bzip2) Oct 26 15:50:47 How horrible is it? Do I end up with all my libraries in the wrong(tm) place, because /lib and /usr/lib get reserved for armel? Oct 26 15:50:49 ah, cool. As soon as we start building, I'll try to do some testing on it. Oct 26 16:21:12 dtrg: with multiarch, your libraries are already moving to /lib/arm-linux-gnueabi, so the armhf libs can be installed alongside Oct 26 16:21:35 this is already done for most key libraries Oct 26 16:21:56 (but the farther up the stack we get, the easier it is for the package manager to calculate an "upgrade" path for switching archs) Oct 26 16:43:14 GrueMaster, look in the ac100 wiki (url in topic of #ac100), there are suggestions for alsamixer settings Oct 26 16:44:01 ok. Will do (if wifi can maintain long enough). Oct 26 16:44:06 heh Oct 26 16:44:46 might be that you have one of the bad wifi cards, compal managed to put an aluminum foil over the LCD back that seems to cover the wlan antenna on many devices Oct 26 16:45:11 if you open the fram and cut out the piece that covers the antenna wifi will work better Oct 26 16:45:12 I may just switch to my Acer Aspire One. While I love the AC100 for its battery life, 512M sucks. Oct 26 16:45:19 if you see issues at UDS too, tell me Oct 26 16:45:33 add zram and a swapfile :) Oct 26 16:45:39 Yep Oct 26 16:45:54 ogra@horus:~$ free|grep ^Swap Oct 26 16:45:54 Swap: 1487740 251412 1236328 Oct 26 16:45:56 :) Oct 26 16:46:12 i can run a mailer, xchat and browser at the same time without issue Oct 26 16:47:19 * ogra_ goes back to pack his bags for tomorrow Oct 26 16:55:49 Starting decent to Minniapolis/St. Paul. Time to drop off for a bit. Oct 26 16:56:11 Hello. I'd like to install Ubuntu Server on a Beagle Board, Rev C. Can someone tell me which image to use of those listed at wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAP? Oct 26 17:08:59 tony_abad: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/release/ubuntu-11.10-preinstalled-server-armel+omap.img.gz Oct 26 17:09:17 tony_abad: check this page http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/release/ Oct 26 17:09:45 Thank you xranby. I just wanted to make sure that 11.10 was an option (I had read somewhere recommending sticking with 11.04). Oct 26 17:10:04 tony_abad: this are the latest release, if you run into any issues ile a bug Oct 26 17:10:07 file a bug Oct 26 17:11:06 Will do. The one thing I am hoping I can do here that I couldn't using a 3rd party patched image is compile and install a kernel module that I absolutely need in my app. Oct 26 17:11:10 tony_abad: after you have booted up the release run an apt-get update apt-get upgrade to make sure you got the latest updates Oct 26 17:12:16 i would recomend you to start by expecting everything to work as intended out of the box Oct 26 17:13:03 tony_abad: which kernel module do you need? Oct 26 17:17:29 I need to install the kernel module for the Kvaser Leaf. We use it to interface with the can network on which we host the amps/motors on our robot. I had been using it and ubuntu 11.04/11.10 just fine on a pico itx. But we need to move to an ARM. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Oct 27 02:59:58 2011