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Nov 01 11:40:24 <sveinse> I'm looking for gdb-arm-linux-gnueabi compiled for natty (running on i386/amd64). I found it once, but Google is surprisingly resultless this time. Anyone knows where I can find it?
Nov 01 11:42:12 <sveinse> I had (lost in a disk crash) gdb-arm-linux_gnueabi_7.2-1ubuntu7_i386.deb. I recall it came from some PPA. Perhaps hrw was involved - don't remember
Nov 01 13:04:41 <GrueMaster> sveinse: You might try asking on #linaro, but keep in mind that UDS/Linaro Connect is going on this week.
Nov 01 15:19:11 <nhg> has anyone tried the 11.10 ubuntu release on a panda?  If so, do you know which codecs are supported for video playback?
Nov 01 15:19:46 <nhg> ARM codecs would be fine...just wanted to know which codecs are supported at what resolution etc
Nov 01 15:34:47 <robclark_> nhg, libav (formerly ffmpeg) should be supported
Nov 01 15:35:06 <robclark_> should be enough to manage up to 720p in some circumstances..
Nov 01 15:36:18 <nhg> robclark: ok thanks...will try that
Nov 01 15:50:35 <Quintasan> lilstevie: ping
Nov 01 15:51:11 <Quintasan> lilstevie: Or whatever, I am at UDS and I heard that toshiba AC100 drivers might work with our Transformers and they are available
Nov 01 15:51:35 <Quintasan> Also, let me talk to someone from arm team if we could host your images for transformer
Nov 01 15:52:53 <infinity> rsalveti: *poke*
Nov 01 15:53:12 <infinity> rsalveti: You should have subscribed me to that minimal image spec.  I'm double-booked again. :/
Nov 01 15:53:25 <infinity> rsalveti: Well, I'm double-booked because I should be there, but only just found out about it. :P
Nov 01 15:55:49 <Quintasan> lilstevie: Or I could put it on my people.ubuntu.com account
Nov 01 15:55:59 <Quintasan> Just reupload it somewhere please :)
Nov 01 16:07:17 <rsalveti> infinity: that's why I sent the email almost one week ago :-)
Nov 01 16:07:25 <rsalveti> for people to subscribe the blueprints
Nov 01 16:07:54 <rsalveti> infinity: and the session is part of the schedule for quite a while already, you should have subscribed them :-)
Nov 01 16:39:21 <infinity> rsalveti: Scanning all the blueprints for interest is painful.  If you have more stuff you want me to attend, please subscribe me. :P
Nov 01 16:39:36 <rsalveti> infinity: ok
Nov 01 18:46:28 <highvoltage> ogra_: are you familiar with this thingy? http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/01/beaglebone-offers-up-arm-a8-processor-linux-and-10-second-boot/
Nov 01 18:48:32 <ogra_> highvoltage, looks nice, but i guess its just another beagleboard ripoff
Nov 01 21:31:26 <travalas> So I've been playing around with ubuntu on the beagle board, and it seems to work fairly well.  But I'm looking for something with a bit more hardware specs, like a sata line and gigabit ethernet.  Is there a board that is good that fits those specs?
Nov 01 21:32:36 <ogra_> no
Nov 01 21:32:44 <ogra_> there are boards that have sata
Nov 01 21:32:51 <ogra_> there are borads that have gigE
Nov 01 21:32:58 <hallyn> NCommander: tegra kernel used to have CONFIG_BRIDGE=m right?  seems to be off now?
Nov 01 21:33:01 <ogra_> i dont think there is one with both atm
Nov 01 21:33:18 <ogra_> hallyn, which tegra kernel ?
Nov 01 21:33:22 <ogra_> ac100 ?
Nov 01 21:33:30 <ogra_> hallyn, if so, janimo maintains that
Nov 01 21:33:50 <hallyn> yeah ac100
Nov 01 21:34:00 <ogra_> janimo, ^^^
Nov 01 21:34:07 <janimo> hallyn, I can add it back
Nov 01 21:34:20 <hallyn> janimo: that'd be great
Nov 01 21:34:20 <janimo> in another update for oneiric
Nov 01 21:34:25 <hallyn> needed for lxc
Nov 01 21:34:38 <hallyn> ogra_: janimo: thanks!
Nov 01 21:35:06 <janimo> ogra_, we most definitely need to keep in sync wit x86 on all our kernels to avoid such situations
Nov 01 21:35:19 <ogra_> janimo, well, i thought i did that :)
Nov 01 21:35:21 <janimo> for ac100 is on my todo list
Nov 01 21:35:27 <janimo> along wot switching to 3.x
Nov 01 21:35:52 <janimo> ogra_, well you underestimated the effects of my taking over the kernel :)
Nov 01 21:36:17 <janimo> I based it off defaultconfig but looked at the diffs from your tree
Nov 01 21:36:17 <ogra_> heh
Nov 01 21:36:24 <ogra_> ah
Nov 01 21:36:30 <janimo> I do not remember missing bridge though strangelty
Nov 01 21:36:42 <janimo> as I added things back
Nov 01 21:36:43 <ogra_> well, many options i adfded were after people like hallyn asked for a feature ...
Nov 01 21:37:01 <ogra_> along with the fact that i aligned with the omap4 config beyond that
Nov 01 21:39:54 <janimo> ogra_, weird I do not see config_bridge set in the 2.6.38-1.3 kernel package either
Nov 01 21:40:19 <ogra_> might have fallen off the shelf then, i think i had it on in .37
Nov 01 21:40:20 <janimo> and I do not remember seeing it in the diffs I made between my packaging and the original
Nov 01 21:40:32 <janimo> ogra_, could be
Nov 01 21:40:43 <janimo> the effects of not using revision control :P
Nov 01 21:41:31 <travalas> ogra: what would be a good example of both of those
Nov 01 21:41:44 <ogra_> i think the mx53 has sata
Nov 01 21:42:14 <ogra_> you need to google for gigE support, i dotn know any board from the top of my head, some marvell boards surely have it.
Nov 01 21:43:25 <travalas> any idea how good is marvell compared to ti or freescale when it comes to interacting with developers?
Nov 01 21:47:27 <NCommander> hallyn: poke ogra_  on that
Nov 01 21:47:38 <ogra_> geez, read the backlog :P
Nov 01 21:47:48 <ogra_> NCommander, i dont maintain that kernel
Nov 01 21:49:05 <hallyn> oh, is it a buggy driver?
Nov 01 21:49:13 <hallyn> (or was that in reference to somethign else)
Nov 01 21:49:52 <ogra_> hallyn, what do you refer to ?
Nov 01 21:50:36 <hallyn> 'dont maintain that kernel';  IIUC NCommander was just telling me to poke you about my wireless on ac100 doing the 'connect/disconnect' dance
Nov 01 21:51:18 <ogra_> hallyn, yes, that was to NCommander, i wouldnt use such a tone towards other people in here *g*
Nov 01 21:51:42 <Quintasan> Will ac100 drivers work on transformer? I believe both have tegra2
Nov 01 21:52:09 <ogra_> hallyn, (he has a habit of not reading the backlog so i have to answer the same thing twice ... )
Nov 01 21:52:32 <ogra_> Quintasan, very unlikely, better use lilstevie's image
Nov 01 21:53:01 <hallyn> ogra_: ok :)  So I don't want to be a pest, but if you do know of anything that will make wireless stable again, plz do share
Nov 01 21:53:08 <Quintasan> ogra_: It's not hw accelerated I believe
Nov 01 21:53:18 <Quintasan> ogra_: Plus, his host went down :P
Nov 01 21:54:25 <ogra_> hallyn, there is a HW hack but thats very tricky
Nov 01 21:54:40 <ogra_> wlan should be rock solid 90% of the times
Nov 01 21:55:21 <ogra_> though i must admit on the overloaded UDS network even my ac100 has probs and thats been 100% reliable up to now
Nov 01 21:55:36 <hallyn> hm,
Nov 01 21:55:57 <hallyn> i also had problems in the hotel room on 'tower2' network, so not sure i can blame the overloaded network
Nov 01 21:56:17 <ogra_> (here i currently just click disable/enable network in NM and i have everything up and running in less than 5sec though)
Nov 01 21:57:18 <ogra_> hallyn, well, you can open the frame of the LCD, cut the aluminum shouled that accidentially covers the wlan antenna on the top left edge and re-assemble the display again
Nov 01 21:57:23 <hallyn> ok, all of network, not just wireless?  i'll try that i guess
Nov 01 21:57:31 <ogra_> *shield
Nov 01 21:57:39 <hallyn> heh, i tried to find a reference to that through google but failed
Nov 01 21:57:45 <ogra_> hmm
Nov 01 21:57:49 <hallyn> (just to see some pictures and tips on hwo to open it up)
Nov 01 21:58:03 <hallyn> (without ruiing the screen)
Nov 01 21:58:58 <ogra_> hallyn, ask in #ac100 for the pictured step by step guide, probably someone remembers the url
Nov 01 21:59:38 <ogra_> there should also be irclogs somewhere from that channel, it was announced there
Nov 01 22:01:25 <hallyn> ogra_: thx, just about out of power, will do that tomorrow
Nov 01 22:01:44 <ogra_> good luck :)
Nov 01 22:04:41 <Quintasan> Hmmm.
Nov 01 22:06:23 <hallyn> ogra_: well, whaddya know - i did the disable/enable networkign and am back for now
Nov 01 22:06:33 <hallyn> (and since i'm not tethered over my phone, my remaining battery life just doubled :)
Nov 01 22:07:35 <lilstevie> ogra_ Quintasan they will work
Nov 01 22:07:45 <lilstevie> but you need to use the right kernel image
Nov 01 22:08:28 <hallyn> so i guess it appears to be a driver problem after all
Nov 01 22:09:07 <lilstevie> Quintasan: and the correct kernel is buggy as all hell
Nov 02 00:25:07 <lilstevie> ogra_: trimslice has both sata and gigE, well kinda anyway
Nov 02 00:25:23 <lilstevie> sata is supplied from a usb interface
Nov 02 00:31:48 <Quintasan> lilstevie: Did you happen to find a hpst?
Nov 02 00:32:01 <lilstevie> Quintasan: also, I will have an image back up online soon, I just changed webhosts, cause the last one sucked, like majorly, but I am updatting to a oneiric base
Nov 02 00:32:08 <lilstevie> updating*
Nov 02 00:32:15 <lilstevie> then I will upload the new image
Nov 02 00:32:26 <lilstevie> new image is a lot smaller, so quicker flash with nvflash
Nov 02 00:32:26 <Quintasan> lilstevie: the rootfs will be running oneiric? awesome \p/
Nov 02 00:32:33 <lilstevie> yeah
Nov 02 00:32:47 <lilstevie> but I need to get through some homework first
Nov 02 00:32:53 <Quintasan> Let me know when it's up so I will get to testing and mirroring it
Nov 02 00:32:58 <lilstevie> got a major presentation tomorrow that is 70% of the semesters mark
Nov 02 00:33:14 <Quintasan> lilstevie: Good luck, I'm eager to test stuff here
Nov 02 00:33:32 <Quintasan> UDS Qt showcase made me want to install Linux :P
Nov 02 00:33:34 <lilstevie> Quintasan: well about that, I am also going to include a metadata xml to track so mirrors can keep up to date
Nov 02 00:33:44 <lilstevie> hah yeah QT works nice on the tf
Nov 02 00:33:54 <lilstevie> well at least it does on mer
Nov 02 00:34:04 <Quintasan> Today at uds Qt guys had a showcase
Nov 02 00:34:05 <lilstevie> only run one Qt app on ubuntu
Nov 02 00:34:32 <Quintasan> With accelerated gl QML looks simply stunning
Nov 02 00:34:40 <lilstevie> yeah IK :p
Nov 02 00:35:11 <lilstevie> I will also be including an option to use the accel kernel with the new oneiric based kit
Nov 02 01:02:27 <Quintasan> lilstevie: Splendid.
Nov 02 01:03:23 <lilstevie> Quintasan: but just be aware, it is pretty buggy
Nov 02 01:03:37 <twb> lilstevie: don't forget about me!
Nov 02 01:03:48 <lilstevie> it will be pushed wrapped in yellow and black warning tape
Nov 02 01:04:06 <lilstevie> twb: it will also have a precompiled u-boot in there so yeah, you wont be forgotten
Nov 02 01:04:17 <Quintasan> lilstevie: I am a developer, bugs are my friends
Nov 02 01:04:19 <Quintasan> :)
Nov 02 01:04:19 <lilstevie> twb: I am finishing my last major piece of work for uni right now
Nov 02 01:05:00 <Quintasan> lilstevie: When I do not have to deal with bugs, I introduce them :P
Nov 02 01:05:04 <lilstevie> Quintasan: heh well depending on bootloader you can end up with graphical corruption
Nov 02 01:05:14 <lilstevie> or if you use the other, artifacting
Nov 02 01:05:27 <lilstevie> twb: you do know as of last commit the kernel will work on the asus bootloader
Nov 02 01:05:35 <lilstevie> there is just a tonne of artifacting that occurs
Nov 02 01:05:39 <lilstevie> particularly in blacks
Nov 02 01:07:59 <twb> lilstevie: mm, but u-boot would still be better
Nov 02 01:08:19 <twb> lilstevie: I guess I will try CrOS kernel with asus bootloader next weekend, tho
Nov 02 01:09:34 <lilstevie> twb: that is debatable
Nov 02 01:10:01 <lilstevie> the artifacting is actually less of a problem than random vram corruption
Nov 02 01:10:46 <twb> lilstevie: with u-boot I can boot a rescue image off the SD card, which means I can change rescue image easily
Nov 02 01:11:28 <lilstevie> twb: true, but you can also keep a rescue kernel in the recovery kernel slot of the asus bootloader
Nov 02 01:11:53 <lilstevie> and when you are sure you have a stable image you just dd it in place
Nov 02 01:12:01 <twb> I realize that but SD card gives me more flexibility
Nov 02 01:12:35 <twb> Like "oops I forgot to put <foo> in my rescue image, now I can't actually rescue with it."
Nov 02 01:12:47 <twb> With an SD card that is solved by just slapping the SD into something else and chrooting
Nov 02 01:13:04 <twb> If it's on the emmc then I have to nvflash
Nov 02 01:13:08 <lilstevie> heh well rescue images should be updated at a slower rate than active kernel :p
Nov 02 01:13:57 <twb> I guess I could always have an SOS kernel that's has root= set to the SD card
Nov 02 01:13:58 <lilstevie> anyway, at this point u-boot is behind the asus bootloader in viability
Nov 02 01:14:03 <lilstevie> yeah
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