**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 04 02:59:57 2011 Nov 04 04:26:53 Hi, great to see this channel. Nov 04 04:28:00 I have a arm based dreamplug and I'd be interested in installing and testing the 11.10 ubuntu server. Is there a guide on how I could start on this journey? Nov 04 05:15:27 grahams, current ubuntu releases require a v7-compliant processor, and the marvell kirkwood is only implementing ARMv5. Nov 04 05:24:00 Thanks Ojn, do you know if v5 devices will be supported in the future? Most of the plugs (Sheeva etc.) are v5 Nov 04 05:25:38 grahams, I don't think so. jaunty and karmic was supported on v5, but I think the plan is to only support v7+ on future releases. I don't follow ubuntu's plans all that closely though. Nov 04 05:26:04 It's the ARM equivalent of not supporting 286s anymore Nov 04 05:26:49 It allows the resulting code to be faster on the newer generation hardware Nov 04 05:28:43 faster and smaller, since thumb2 is available. Nov 04 05:30:23 I don't believe v5 = 286, there are lots of new devices using v5. There are also Debian Wheezy images out there with 3.0.4 kernels. I find it odd that Ubuntu is ignoring the 1000's of Plugs that are still shipping. I'll stick with debian for now. Thanks for the answers. Nov 04 05:31:06 grahams: Debian has two ARM flavours -- armel and armhf. Basically Ubuntu only has the latter because (presumably) they can't be bothered supporting older designs -- even if those older designs are appearing in new devices. Nov 04 05:31:47 (And the reason Debian is more armel than armhf is because it moves slowly ;-) Nov 04 05:32:38 twb: actually ubuntu is armel :p well armv7el Nov 04 05:32:51 Yes yes Nov 04 05:33:01 hf is something entirely different :p Nov 04 05:33:35 So then let us say debian has "boring" and "fancy pants" flavours, and Ubuntu has a common one somewhere in between Nov 04 05:35:40 Makes sense for Ubuntu to focus a new project on the newer CPU designs. Nov 04 05:36:09 Good luck with the project, alas I do not have a v7 device Nov 04 05:38:22 most newer devices are v7 anyway Nov 04 05:44:44 mm Nov 04 05:44:53 I was surprised his wasn't, tbh Nov 04 05:45:12 heh, I wasn't Nov 04 05:45:36 those plug devices are all the same CPU Nov 04 05:45:44 They blow Nov 04 05:46:13 At least the sheeva does (I have one); and I heard the newer ones overheat if you run both ethernet interfaces are full speed Nov 04 05:46:25 lol Nov 04 05:46:44 the sheeva gets quite hot when it's just sitting there Nov 04 05:47:03 so does the trimplice tbh Nov 04 05:47:08 trimslice* Nov 04 06:01:30 ojn: there is also a maverick version for arm v5 iirc Nov 04 06:03:04 speaking about trimslice, i started making this page for future projects: http://julkinen.salaliitto.com/trimslice/ Nov 04 06:03:48 all the buttons should now function, except the search-bar Nov 04 06:04:13 even the terminal actually does things Nov 04 06:04:27 i stole it from omg!ubuntu Nov 04 06:10:34 heh Nov 04 09:12:27 I see from the rootstock script that the group 'fuse' is added, but without any comments. How come it's added explicitly in the installer? Nov 04 09:14:16 ^^ rsalveti or ogra_ perhaps Nov 04 12:00:39 lilstevie: looking at build_kernel.sh, I see -j$(grep processor /proc/cpuinfo | wc -l) -- suggest instad -j$(getconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN || echo 1). Nov 04 12:02:30 not my script :p Nov 04 12:03:24 k Nov 04 12:04:37 most of it seems to be files new nvidia/google-copyright files -- are these snarfed from the asus kernel tarball? Nov 04 12:06:02 ? Nov 04 12:07:17 828153e1ca207b83da2fed628271965d933fd1a9 -- Split the tf101 device from picasso to make it easier to work with. Nov 04 12:07:43 no Nov 04 12:07:45 So I guess they're copied from other files in the same git repo Nov 04 12:08:04 all I did was grab board-picasso* Nov 04 12:08:13 and split them off Nov 04 12:08:20 Righto Nov 04 12:12:33 Ugh, just powered the tf101 up again since a couple weeks ago, and it's go no juice again Nov 04 12:13:11 Either the damn thing uses non-trivial amounts of battery when halted (as in "shutdown -h now") or it turns itself on all the time when I'm not watching **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Nov 04 16:14:09 2011 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 04 16:18:15 2011 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Nov 04 17:02:03 2011 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 04 17:03:22 2011 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Nov 04 17:15:12 2011 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 04 17:24:14 2011 Nov 04 21:14:55 ogra_: haha, no luck, I installed the driver and rebooted and no X Nov 04 21:14:58 :) Nov 04 21:26:19 brr Nov 04 21:26:27 * Quintasan|TF has a streak of bad luck Nov 04 22:03:12 Any one here known with qemu core dumping when running 'apt-get install openssh-server' in an armel chroot (using binfmt emulation)? It happens on i386 natty, but not on amd64 natty. I am currently testing for oneiric. Nov 05 01:14:56 lilstevie: ok so cros is built now; I guess I need to grok abootimg next? Nov 05 01:18:45 Is the abootimg config file (e.g. $bootsize etc) the same for my CrOS 2.6.38 as the one that shipped with your 2.6.36-based tarball? Nov 05 01:27:03 Hmm, another strange thing -- holding voldn gets me into asus bootloader's "android or factory reset?" UI, and but if I pick the latter it boots normally and goes into X, whereas it ought to be running the SOS kernel which has single Nov 05 01:52:21 twb: the bootsize is the same size as the partition Nov 05 01:52:53 also did you make sure to hit vol-up within 5 secs Nov 05 01:59:51 Yeah, I got the little onscreen thing which has an icon of android on the right, and some factory reset type thing on the left Nov 05 02:00:00 AIUI the left icon actually means SOS Nov 05 02:08:48 hm that shouldn't happen Nov 05 02:09:14 if you press vol-down with power and don't press vol-up within 5 seconds that menu shows up Nov 05 02:09:18 that is the datawipe menu Nov 05 02:18:06 OK so that's the wrong menu Nov 05 02:20:08 yeah, when you press vol-down, there is a bit of writing that shows at the top left that says "press to boot RCK Nov 05 02:20:09 " Nov 05 02:21:58 I can't seem to get to that Nov 05 02:25:41 hm Nov 05 02:25:52 did you manually flash the SOS kernel Nov 05 02:26:22 Not sure what you mean Nov 05 02:26:39 how did you flash up the device Nov 05 02:27:10 What's on there now is basically the 2.6.36 setup you prepared as linux-flash-kit Nov 05 02:27:34 ok, well I didn't flash an SOS kernel Nov 05 02:27:42 Hm Nov 05 02:27:51 I appear to be doing so Nov 05 02:27:56 not with pure Nov 05 02:28:12 you would need to manually prepare and flash your SOS kernel Nov 05 02:28:32 http://paste.debian.net/142822/ Nov 05 02:28:51 AFAIK that's what I put on there a few weeks back. 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