**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Nov 24 02:59:58 2011 Nov 24 03:55:32 lilstevie: why doesn't nvflash work with SBKv2? Because they rearchitected stuff, or just because nobody knows that SBK yet? Nov 24 03:57:09 (Reading http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/How_to_install_Ubuntu_on_an_Asus_EEEPad_Transformer) Nov 24 05:05:51 twb: unknown SBK Nov 24 05:07:11 k Nov 24 05:08:16 also sorry about the late reply, was out with the nurses protest thingy supporting my gf Nov 24 05:13:19 np Nov 24 05:13:40 lilstevie: How dare you put personal relationships before community porting support. Nov 24 05:15:56 infinity: you should be frowning on him hanging out with an aussie girl instead of a nice respectable nz one :P Nov 24 05:17:44 twb: shhhh Nov 24 05:18:14 I was trying to work a Pyramus and Thisbe angle but I can't make it funny enough Nov 24 05:18:55 heh Nov 24 05:19:06 man sooo many people were out for the protest though Nov 24 05:19:17 shoulda seen all the trams stopped on swanston Nov 24 05:20:01 Presumably "nurses protest" isn't protesting that there *are* nurses Nov 24 05:20:52 twb: no it is about the shit the govt is trying to do in the new enterprise agreement Nov 24 05:21:09 Mm Nov 24 05:21:29 Nurses have had a bad run for decades AFAICT Nov 24 05:21:37 yeah Nov 24 05:21:51 but they are trying to replace nurses with unqualified assistants in nursing Nov 24 05:22:08 the protest is really for the patients, not the nurses Nov 24 05:22:11 What could POSSIBLY go wrong Nov 24 05:22:52 nothing, if you want to believe the health minister Nov 24 05:36:08 twb: I was married to an Aussie girl... Nov 24 05:38:06 infinity: but you got better? Nov 24 05:40:54 twb: Well, there's that, yes. Nov 24 05:44:08 Anyways, I was having a dig at lilstevie because he's a kiwi Nov 24 05:45:11 I stand united with my kiwi brethren. Nov 24 05:45:15 They're like Australia's Canada. Nov 24 05:45:36 With more sheep sex. Nov 24 05:45:39 But still. Nov 24 05:46:40 I was thinking more England and Wales:P Nov 24 05:47:05 Anyway, .au has plenty of sheep sex, just not in the middle of suburban streets :P Nov 24 05:47:26 I meant more than Canada. ;) Nov 24 05:49:29 oh right Nov 24 05:49:46 Yeah I guess they have cattle or something, instead Nov 24 05:49:55 Or hockey pucks Nov 24 05:49:57 *glare* Nov 24 05:50:47 Or hockey players. They don't have teeth. Nov 24 05:51:26 And I'm spent. Nov 24 05:52:07 I don't wish to know that! Nov 24 05:52:22 Then don't read it! Nov 24 05:52:24 Quick. Nov 24 05:52:28 Unread, unread! Nov 24 05:52:42 StevenK: Also, do you hilight on the word "Australia" or something? Nov 24 05:53:06 * infinity is tempted to start hilighting on "maple syrup". Nov 24 05:53:09 Haha Nov 24 05:55:18 infinity: more like "sheep sex" Nov 24 05:55:29 twb: I was being kind. Nov 24 05:55:40 (I like to keep StevenK off-guard) Nov 24 05:55:54 Just wait until Budapest. Nov 24 05:55:57 So which one of you two is the sheep Nov 24 05:56:05 StevenK: We're letting you come to that? Nov 24 05:56:59 Someone from #ubuntu-server wanted to pay me to go to Orlando Nov 24 06:05:20 lol Nov 24 06:07:47 I was all "hahahanooooooo" Nov 24 06:08:59 sure, I'll do it, for.... 1 million dollars Nov 24 06:09:24 I really meant he'd pay for fare and accommodation or whatever out of canonical's pocket Nov 24 06:10:05 oh lol Nov 24 06:45:58 today == crap Nov 24 06:46:11 now I need to go to some thing for gfs sisters school Nov 24 07:32:39 hello, i just finished writing the ubuntu-netbook-10.10-preinstalled-netbook-armel+omap.img.gz to an SD card, i have a beagleboard-xm rev A2 and i turned it on with the sd card in. i got the ubuntu log in screen (no initial user configuration first) and i dont knoow how to log in (ubuntu,temppwd didnt work). can anyone help me please? Nov 24 07:35:08 yam_: I can assume chrooting with qemu but I'm not sure it's the best choice Nov 24 07:36:38 btw, my host pc is win 7, so i used win32diskimager to wite the image Nov 24 07:38:15 int_ua, what do u mean with "chrooting"? how do i do that? Nov 24 07:44:59 can anyone help please? Nov 24 07:55:49 does the oneiric 11.0 (ubuntu-11.10-preinstalled-desktop-armel+omap.img) should work fine with my board? (beagleboard-xm rev A2) Nov 24 07:57:17 yam_: oh, I didn't have experience with chroot from windows. Nov 24 07:57:58 yam_: But if you have some linux somewhere beside I can post commands here Nov 24 07:58:40 that would be great, thatnk u Nov 24 08:00:39 yam_: Or you can simply edit /etc/passwd if you can mount ext filesystem Nov 24 08:01:01 yam_: to add user without password I mean Nov 24 08:06:18 ok, i will try that Nov 24 08:06:59 do u have an idea about the oneiric with my board? Nov 24 08:09:25 yam_: Why wouldn't it work? Nov 24 08:09:52 yam_: Did you checked if it's OMAP3 or OMAP4? Nov 24 08:10:04 i dont know, im new to all of this Nov 24 08:10:13 its an omap3 Nov 24 08:11:59 yam_: ok, I don't see any reason for it to not work :) Nov 24 08:13:17 ok, and if everything with the img writing will go well, i sould see the initial user config on the first boot with the sd card, right? Nov 24 08:14:03 (if it will still wont work, i will try your suggestion with the passwd editing) Nov 24 08:15:35 yam_: hm. AFAIK, you have to add user before starting it. At least I did. I agree that it have to work the way you mentioned. But it didn't for me. Nov 24 08:18:28 yam_: But according to wiki it have to ask you, yes Nov 24 08:18:52 yam_: So I assume you try without adding user manually first Nov 24 08:19:26 yam_: Maybe I just never tried booting it without a user :) Nov 24 08:20:26 do u know a easy way to access the sd ext filesystem with windows? Nov 24 08:20:54 (to edit the passwd file) Nov 24 08:26:08 yam_: According to wiki: After this process completes the system will reboot and prompt for first boot information (create username/password, region, timezone, language support, etc) ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAPMaverickInstall#line-56 ) Nov 24 08:26:34 yam_: So please try booting it without editing Nov 24 08:26:53 i just did and got this: Nov 24 08:26:54 MMC: block number 0x1 exceeds max(0x0) ** Can't read from device 0 ** ** Unable to use mmc 0:1 for fatload ** Wrong Image Format for bootm command ERROR: can't get kernel image! Nov 24 08:27:17 oh Nov 24 08:27:32 with orange screen on the monitor Nov 24 08:28:09 Then users is not your problem :) Nov 24 08:28:11 yet Nov 24 08:29:17 this is with the oneiric image Nov 24 08:29:53 the 10.10 version had only the user problem, maybe i will go back to it Nov 24 08:30:00 yam_: What is the partitioning scheme of the SD? Can you check it? Nov 24 08:30:09 ah Nov 24 08:30:19 I think I got it Nov 24 08:30:35 how to check? Nov 24 08:30:38 10.10 did change partitioning scheme Nov 24 08:31:06 Did you use instructions for 10.10 on 11.10 image? Nov 24 08:31:21 yep Nov 24 08:31:24 sorry, 11.10 did change Nov 24 08:32:14 i had the same problem with the Natty Narwhal (11.04) Nov 24 08:32:36 and the instruction there was the same as 10.10 Nov 24 08:32:56 yam_: IIRC 10.10 image is the image of one partition and 11.10 is the image of the whole SD Nov 24 08:34:08 * int_ua thinks Nov 24 08:34:14 yam_: But you write it to SD, not to one of it's partitions? Nov 24 08:35:01 yes, i wrote the all image Nov 24 08:36:18 yam_: about checking partitioning scheme: I can help you with linux tools for that: fdisk, palimpsest, (g)parted,... But I don't remember how they are called in windows. Nov 24 08:36:45 i used Win32ImageWriter Nov 24 08:36:49 however there was some disk manager built-in Nov 24 08:36:53 (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OmapNetbook#On_older_Beagleboards) Nov 24 08:37:47 hm. You've done everything right, it seems Nov 24 08:38:07 i think i will write the 10.10 image again and try to solve the user problem Nov 24 08:38:46 Maybe try something like dskmgr Nov 24 08:40:44 how do i boot the board with command line insted of the ubuntu log in screen? Nov 24 08:40:58 wait Nov 24 08:41:23 i have serial connection with a terminal opend at my pc Nov 24 08:41:42 The link you provided. #On_older_Beagleboards Isn't it your case? Nov 24 08:42:35 oh Nov 24 08:42:37 no Nov 24 08:42:41 see below for XM Nov 24 08:42:41 "On Pandaboard and BeagleXM (rev A) just switch on the board with the SD card inserted. " Nov 24 08:42:47 im using rev A2 Nov 24 08:42:54 oh Nov 24 08:42:56 :) Nov 24 08:44:50 ok, i just finished with the 10.10 writing and boot the board for the first time Nov 24 08:45:52 i got the log in screen (user problem) Nov 24 08:46:22 still cant log in Nov 24 08:48:07 i will install an ext reader for windows (http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html) and try to edit the passwd file Nov 24 08:54:35 ok, i can see the file Nov 24 08:54:46 how to edit it? :) Nov 24 08:56:03 yam_: Are you asking what is the best software for it or what should you write into it? Nov 24 08:56:20 what to write Nov 24 08:56:50 in order to add a new user (with or oithout password) Nov 24 08:57:27 http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?passwd+5 Nov 24 08:58:18 yam_: It would be better if you understand what to write than me writing it for you, isn't it? :) Nov 24 08:59:02 right, i just started reading at http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/understanding-etcpasswd-file-format/ Nov 24 09:00:29 yam_: yeah, I just wanted to say that man misses some points. Your link is better Nov 24 09:01:27 is there a way reading the root password stored in /etc/shadow? (my file is starting with "root:x:...) Nov 24 09:02:16 is it possible just to change the "x" to any password i want? Nov 24 09:02:43 IIRC you can just cleat it Nov 24 09:02:49 and login withou pass Nov 24 09:02:58 *clear Nov 24 09:03:26 just clear all the file? (empty file) Nov 24 09:03:30 nonono Nov 24 09:03:43 clear the x? Nov 24 09:03:43 root:!:... Nov 24 09:03:54 ok Nov 24 09:04:16 put an exclamation mark Nov 24 09:05:06 no, sorry, my bad Nov 24 09:05:38 If the password field contains some string that is not a valid Nov 24 09:05:38 result of crypt(3), for instance ! or *, the user will not be able Nov 24 09:05:39 to use a unix password to log in (but the user may log in the Nov 24 09:05:39 system by other means). Nov 24 09:06:41 yeah, just delete it Nov 24 09:07:28 all the file? or just the x? Nov 24 09:08:58 just the password :) Nov 24 09:14:53 yam_, if you dont get the installer after the second boot (note the first boot does some essential configuration, make sure it did that properly), then just start over Nov 24 09:15:26 the installer does a lot more than just creating a user, you seriously want that it runs :) Nov 24 09:15:47 how do i run it after loging in? Nov 24 09:16:06 you cant Nov 24 09:16:23 as i said, start over and make sure that the first step up to the automatic reboot runs Nov 24 09:17:09 if oyu use the desktop image it will tell you about the resize on the ubuntu splash screen Nov 24 09:17:25 if you use the server image this output is on the serial console Nov 24 09:18:40 poking around in password files or the like will *not* get you a properly configured system in the end Nov 24 09:18:56 so its better to edit the passwd file before the first boot? Nov 24 09:19:08 no Nov 24 09:19:17 *dont* touch the image, let it do its job Nov 24 09:20:06 but its not loading the configuration on the first boot Nov 24 09:21:17 it should load the interactive on *second* boot ... Nov 24 09:21:35 and only *after* the automatic config on second boot did run Nov 24 09:21:59 if that didnt run, start over, dd it newly to the card, dont waste time to get it running in a broken state Nov 24 09:22:15 you will just end up with a mess Nov 24 09:23:55 "second" time is after booting with the modified passwd file? Nov 24 09:25:13 no Nov 24 09:25:19 *dont* touch the image Nov 24 09:25:29 start over and let it do its automatic bits Nov 24 09:26:51 ogra_: Thanks a lot, I didn't know that it was configuring itself. It's not the case for the Core image, right? Nov 24 09:26:53 do a fresh dd, fiddling manually with the image wont gain you much Nov 24 09:27:15 int_ua, ubuntu-core isnt an image at all, its the base for an image Nov 24 09:27:18 i tried 4 times, every time i ended with the log in screen Nov 24 09:27:39 yam_, with a freshly dd'ed image ? Nov 24 09:28:15 no, i just unzipped the .gz file again Nov 24 09:28:53 int_ua, so there is *nothing* configured in ubuntu-core ... on purpose, we expect the person using ubuntu-core to have some knowledge about how to create an actual image from it (during this cycle we will also add some ducumentation for this) Nov 24 09:29:08 yam_, why do you unzip the file ? Nov 24 09:29:33 im using win32diskimager Nov 24 09:29:43 hmm Nov 24 09:29:57 * ogra_ has no clue how that thing works Nov 24 09:30:00 "ownload the image and extract it using WinZip or some other archive utility. Then use Win32ImageWriter to write the unzipped img file to your flash device. " Nov 24 09:30:03 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAPMaverickInstall Nov 24 09:31:04 i wonder if it messes it up (it shouldnt, but i have never used this tool) Nov 24 09:31:46 oh, and do you actually try to install 10.10 ? or is that just for the disk-imager howto ? Nov 24 09:32:19 i think the A2 is newer thzan 10.10, so the kernel and bootloader might not fully support it, use some recent image instead Nov 24 09:32:33 i think that if it let me go all the way to thr log in screen, it was writen in the correct way, but im not sure Nov 24 09:32:48 you shouldnt see a login screen at all Nov 24 09:33:20 there is a configuration going on asking you a lot of queestions, and then it configures the system for about 15-20min Nov 24 09:33:37 and only *then* you should see a login screen Nov 24 09:34:22 (and note this is all on *second* boot, on the first boot there is nothing interactive at all, it will prepare the SD card and adjust the partitioning etc, fully automatic) Nov 24 09:34:45 so first of all, make sure to have a recent image Nov 24 09:34:56 try 11.10 instead of 10.10 Nov 24 09:35:11 10.10 is a year old, the XM A2 wasnt existing at that time Nov 24 09:35:22 (i think) Nov 24 09:35:46 ogra_: where is this first-boot-settings executable located? Nov 24 09:36:00 int_ua, in the initrd Nov 24 09:37:13 and it only enables the second stage configuration if all the bitsit does have worked Nov 24 09:37:39 so ending up at a login screen on second boot indicates that the first setp didnt work for whatever reason Nov 24 09:37:48 ogra_: I'm using recent images on the Nokia N900 and I've never seen them configuring. But maybe that's my fault. I'm using a script to install it and add some N900-specific hacks: https://code.launchpad.net/~xintx-ua/ubuntu-n900/ubuntu-n900-installer Nov 24 09:38:08 the n900 image isnt done by us Nov 24 09:38:23 no ideahow they work Nov 24 09:38:31 I'm using OMAP3 preinstalled images Nov 24 09:38:48 all ubuntu preinstalled images definitely use that step Nov 24 09:38:48 and Core Nov 24 09:39:44 well, as i said, core is for people that know what to do with it :) it was initially designed for IVI systems that dont want a user etc Nov 24 09:40:18 (but can indeed be used to design other images, or just be used as a development chroot or whatever) Nov 24 09:40:44 ogra_: then what is stopping that initrd script from booting?... Nov 24 09:40:47 ubuntu-core is what you get using debootstrap Nov 24 09:41:15 int_ua, no idea, might be that the resizing fails or something, it would tell you on the screen Nov 24 09:41:52 ogra_: it just boots without any first-boot-ish messages Nov 24 09:42:22 ogra_: Can you suggest what could possibly stop it from executing? Nov 24 09:42:33 if it doesnt start at all, that might either be because he isnt using the right initrd bceause he modified the image in some way, because the kernel or bootloader miss capabilities or because he edited boot.scr in a way that it fdoesnt get the right options Nov 24 09:42:57 oh, boot.scr Nov 24 09:43:14 I never used it because it never worked for me on N900 Nov 24 09:43:30 might be the n900 u-boot Nov 24 09:43:51 i dont think it uses one that comes from the upstream source tree in linaro Nov 24 09:43:51 Actually, I'm installing custom kernel and repartitioning the card in process. Nov 24 09:44:16 while all our other images use a u-boot from the same source Nov 24 09:44:29 (there is a kernel for N900 in repositories. And it's the only one that boots) Nov 24 09:44:37 yep, i know Nov 24 09:45:02 someone should build an imitrd for this kernel and provide a proper boot.scr ;) Nov 24 09:45:06 *initrd Nov 24 09:45:18 ogra_: yes, u-boot looks modified Nov 24 09:45:35 though if your install script does all the bits you need, you wont need that script Nov 24 09:45:39 err Nov 24 09:45:43 you wont need that initrd Nov 24 09:46:11 someone: ^ please do this Nov 24 09:46:12 i.e. you have to set up your SD yourself anyway ... doing the partitioning beforehand etc Nov 24 09:46:51 i would expect that ubuntu-n900-installer script above to actually resemble what we do with our initrd in ubuntu Nov 24 09:47:01 ogra_: ok, I'm doing the partitioning, what else this stock first-boot does? Nov 24 09:47:20 ogra_: Is it a shell script? Nov 24 09:47:59 ogra_: So I will compare my script with the stock one Nov 24 09:48:05 setting up swap space, configuring the network setup, enabling oem-config (teh second boot configurator) ... setting up the proper bootloader config and a bunch of other stuff Nov 24 09:48:35 get the source for jasper-initramfs ... its not a single script but a bunch of initrd hooks and scripts Nov 24 09:48:53 ogra_: Ok, thanks a lot :) Nov 24 09:49:38 and it requires that boot=jaspeer is set on the cmdline on first boot to run it (it then modifies the cmdline after it ran) Nov 24 09:49:45 *boot=jasper Nov 24 09:57:44 yam_: So, sis you succeed? Nov 24 09:57:53 *did Nov 24 09:57:53 not yet Nov 24 09:58:05 im downloading again the 10.10 image Nov 24 09:58:41 and i will try to follow the instructions again, hopping i will get the configuration stage Nov 24 09:59:23 dont ! Nov 24 09:59:28 use the 11.10 image Nov 24 10:00:14 do u sure? (the 10.10 has been worked before with this board - not mine) Nov 24 10:00:33 10.10 is a year old (as i said above) it is likely that the kernel and bootloader support your board better with 11.10 Nov 24 10:03:01 so ubuntu-11.10-preinstalled-desktop-armel+omap.img is better? Nov 24 10:03:16 yes Nov 24 10:06:15 ok, i will try a fresh download Nov 24 10:12:34 ogra_: hi i noticed that canonical have prepared some imx packages like http://netbook-remix.archive.canonical.com/updates/pool/public/x/xserver-xorg-video-imx/ it would be nice if we could get this into the ubuntu archive.. the imx53 board are currently using the framebuffer driver instead of this accelerated 2d driver Nov 24 10:13:22 ogra_: we need to recomple this driver to match the current xorg in precise Nov 24 10:13:38 xranby, they are for the vodafone netbook, i doubt they are usable on any newer imx Nov 24 10:13:56 if you own a babbage board they might help though Nov 24 10:15:18 ogra_: i have been looking around.. for imx there currently exist two binary blobs 1. the opengl-es stuff 2. the libz160 (amd z160 gpu) apart from those 2 blobs the xserver-xorg-video-imx source are available Nov 24 10:15:40 like ... https://github.com/genesi/xorg-video-imx Nov 24 10:16:10 the binary blobs for 1. and 2. can be obtained from freescale Nov 24 10:16:31 Offtopic: new onboard is awesome ^_^ Nov 24 10:16:44 right, they arent redistributable sadly Nov 24 10:16:49 sad Nov 24 10:17:11 the xorg imx driver should get you XV and EXA support though Nov 24 10:17:22 can we create a installer in similar spirit like the download and install the ti-driver on omap? Nov 24 10:17:22 we can probably pull that into the archive Nov 24 10:17:45 but i'm still not sure it would run on anything but the imx51 babbage architecture Nov 24 10:18:25 i will try compile the xorg-video-imx on my imx53 and try Nov 24 10:19:06 in order to compile that source i need to have the imx53 patched kernel sources in place on the board Nov 24 10:19:21 since the driver tries to use linux/mxcfb.h Nov 24 10:21:27 "Both i.MX51 and i.MX53 have similar on chip 2D/3D vector graphics accelerators" http://www.freescale.com/files/32bit/doc/app_note/AN4271.pdf Nov 24 10:24:11 "similar" :) Nov 24 10:46:06 ogra_: similar enough! i have the imx driver running now displaying the unity-2d desktop on a imx43 board ! :) Nov 24 10:46:12 imx53 Nov 24 10:46:20 great Nov 24 10:46:41 i'll talk to the guys working on the vodafone thing if we can put the free bit into the archive Nov 24 10:49:22 i have opengl-es running as well! Nov 24 10:49:30 i can run the binball demo Nov 24 10:49:47 when added the 2 binary blobs Nov 24 10:50:25 yeah Nov 24 10:51:20 ogra_: i compiled the genesei source https://github.com/genesi/xorg-video-imx i had to tweak the include path to use the linux-header-linaro-ln-mx5 includes Nov 24 10:52:17 well, lets see what the guys say, i pinged but they might be afk due to thanksgiving (even non americans take vacation days due to it ... if half of your team is away etc ... ) Nov 24 10:58:56 ogra_: thanks, if someone ask here are my Xorg.0.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/748064 Nov 24 11:00:22 thx Nov 24 11:00:54 btw, you should probably ask asac or rsalveti why linaro hasnt put that driver into the archive yet Nov 24 11:01:06 since i think they use it too but from an overlay PPA Nov 24 11:02:04 ogra: are rsalveti working with both the omap and imx drivers? Nov 24 11:02:20 he leads the team doing that nowadays :) Nov 24 11:02:43 (i dont think he touches the imx driver himself, but the team should) Nov 24 11:03:08 whats the team name? Nov 24 11:03:25 is it an ubuntu team or .. linaro... canonical? Nov 24 11:03:30 linaro Nov 24 11:03:33 ok Nov 24 11:03:47 i think its foundations or platform or some similar name Nov 24 11:03:49 i will poke him if i get a chanse Nov 24 11:04:11 and i know asac initially packaged that driver back in the time for ubuntu-arm Nov 24 11:05:15 would be nice to get it into the ubuntu archive yes Nov 24 11:10:01 ndec, you should really whack some people some day ... i tried that android source tree yesterday ... even the TI input drivers have hardcoded references to android stuff ... that will be really hard to port Nov 24 11:11:15 (at least without rewriting half the drivers) Nov 24 11:12:11 it does prevent the heat probs though Nov 24 11:39:28 infinity: hi, follow up on armhf mail sent by asac some weeks ago Nov 24 11:40:11 infinity: can we enable armhf arch on PPA now? Nov 24 11:40:56 we dont even have working buildds yet Nov 24 11:41:17 and even then, all buildd power will have to be used to build the archive since we are really late already Nov 24 11:41:32 i wouldnt count on PPAs before feature freeze Nov 24 11:42:05 fabo, ^^^ Nov 24 11:42:54 oh :( Nov 24 11:43:56 (if you have additional HW you can send to the datacenter though i guess) Nov 24 11:44:32 ogra_: datacentre told us a while back they dont want more boards Nov 24 11:44:39 because they have no easy way to manage Nov 24 11:44:41 ah, thats bad Nov 24 11:45:10 yeah, i guess they would like more panda clusters instead of boards sitting on wooden breakfast boards Nov 24 11:45:13 whats blocking the armhf buildd's? Nov 24 11:45:21 afaik you can just have an armhf chroot on an armel builder Nov 24 11:45:24 that we dont have a working bootstrap yet Nov 24 11:45:46 building the bits took way longer than estimated Nov 24 11:46:28 not sure wheer we stand atm, but i havent seen any hf news this week yet and i'm sure adam would have screamed, shouted and danced if he was done Nov 24 11:47:06 (additionally things like the perl transition didnt help speeding it up either) Nov 24 11:47:30 ogra_: come on... the code is used in a real product! it must be good! Nov 24 11:47:33 ;-) Nov 24 11:47:39 ndec, lol Nov 24 11:48:25 hmm Nov 24 11:51:59 asac, if we actually want to do the switch at FF time (which i start to doubt we will manage in time) all possible buildd power will have to go into the hf build ... even armel will suffer from that Nov 24 11:52:23 so i dont see where the PPA power would come from Nov 24 11:53:42 not to mention that we will likely drown in FTBFS Nov 24 11:56:22 i tried again with 11.10 image and got the same problem Nov 24 11:56:54 orange screen Nov 24 11:57:16 ogra_: in the end we dont really do much with ppa builders anyway ... compared to the whole archive load. anyway. we will sort out. maybe we can add two or three builders to get more air to breath. question is what we should do in the meantime Nov 24 11:57:17 ?? Nov 24 11:57:20 orange ? Nov 24 11:57:20 thats what bothers me Nov 24 11:57:26 with ubuntu everything is orange... Nov 24 11:57:37 FF is in january? Nov 24 11:57:42 really a good cross build system would help Nov 24 11:58:07 asac, really, no ideas, atm adding HW wont help you anyway, you cant roll a chroot even, there is not a single hf package in the archive Nov 24 11:58:22 i know Nov 24 11:58:41 yam_, that sounds very weird, there isnt anything thats orange on ubuntu Nov 24 11:58:59 FF is in february ... wow Nov 24 11:59:02 yep Nov 24 11:59:10 i get this error: MMC: block number 0x1 exceeds max(0x0) ** Can't read from device 0 ** ** Unable to use mmc 0:1 for fatload ** Wrong Image Format for bootm command ERROR: can't get kernel image! Nov 24 11:59:22 * asac moans a bit about hf situation and moves on :) Nov 24 11:59:31 yam_, so you arent booting the image at all Nov 24 11:59:42 fabo: who is main stakeholder on armhf? Nov 24 11:59:48 asac, well, send alcohol to canada to spee it up :) Nov 24 11:59:55 *speed Nov 24 12:00:06 fabo: did we commit to TSC to get that done? or is it OCTO still? or is it our platforms own agenda? Nov 24 12:00:07 lol Nov 24 12:00:07 keeping infinity running is the only thing you can do Nov 24 12:00:35 i know after the perl transition he ran into other circular dep issues Nov 24 12:00:48 (guessing from comments he threw around) Nov 24 12:02:31 i download the image from http://jaanus.tech-thing.org/robotex/ubuntu-server-on-beagleboard/ Nov 24 12:02:44 err Nov 24 12:02:47 and follow Instructions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAPMaverickInstall Nov 24 12:02:52 why did you not use the ubuntu image ? Nov 24 12:03:15 and dont use the maverick page ... there are newer ones Nov 24 12:03:25 go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAP Nov 24 12:03:32 images are linked from the howtos Nov 24 12:03:46 i did, downloaded ubuntu-11.10-preinstalled-desktop-armel+omap.img.gz Nov 24 12:03:47 asac: I don't think we have a stackholder on armhf Nov 24 12:04:07 asac: it's still OCTO, as part of the server plans Nov 24 12:04:15 yam_, you just said you downloaded from some third party page above Nov 24 12:04:19 using the image is easier on windows Nov 24 12:04:32 well, we dont really test it on windows Nov 24 12:05:37 i used this page for the link to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAP Nov 24 12:05:47 k Nov 24 12:06:01 and you are sure you have a beagle XM A2 ? Nov 24 12:06:48 to my knowledge they arent sold with NAND, your error above seems to indicate that it boots some weird kernel out of a NAND flash Nov 24 12:07:35 if your board actually has falsh, you need to erase it Nov 24 12:07:39 *flash Nov 24 12:08:07 else it will use the wrong u-boot and try to boot a totally wrong kernel/initrd whatever Nov 24 12:09:06 and orange sounds suspiciously like some u-boot splash screen which ubuntu definitely does not have Nov 24 12:09:56 yes Nov 24 12:10:09 writen on the package Nov 24 12:10:14 yes ? Nov 24 12:10:19 ah, XM you mean Nov 24 12:10:51 the xm is without NAND as far as i know\ Nov 24 12:11:17 well, the ornage screen really sounds like one of the old beagle u-boot hacks, ubuntu never used that Nov 24 12:13:10 i think i will install ubuntu on my pc and use it to write the image to the sd, maybe the win32imagewriter isnt working well with this images Nov 24 12:13:26 did you even havd another OS on that SD card ? Nov 24 12:13:37 no Nov 24 12:14:23 then i have no idea where that orange screen could come from, unless you actually have flash Nov 24 12:14:25 a few month ago i succeeded loading an angsorm image that way Nov 24 12:14:57 i know there were very very few XMs that actually had flash, they arent produced anymore though Nov 24 12:15:45 if you fire it up without SD card plugged in, do you get any output on the serial ? Nov 24 12:16:07 (NOTE: you shouldnt, unless there is flash) Nov 24 12:31:04 hey i had some problem with opencv on board..........i compiled opencv on the board.....got errors while compiling a program Nov 24 12:31:06 http://tinypic.com/r/sj5t/5 Nov 24 12:31:07 i think it is library......can nyone tell me which library corresponds to -lcv for arm platform Nov 24 12:31:09 this are the libraries.... Nov 24 12:31:10 http://pastebin.com/ma9GfYRF Nov 24 14:24:12 doko: bug #861296 Nov 24 14:24:13 Launchpad bug 861296 in linux "mmap fails to allocate 2030Mb heap on ARM" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/861296 Nov 24 14:24:27 doko: imx51? omap4? oneiric? Nov 24 14:25:28 ppisati, well, I think we only have panda boards. but infinity or lamont can confirm this Nov 24 14:26:54 doko: becasue, AFAIK, builders are imx51 (thus lucid) but you explicitely asked for an onerici fix Nov 24 14:27:00 infinity: ^^ Nov 24 14:27:54 ppisati, see #ubuntu-devel Nov 24 14:29:34 doko: wasn't there, what's up? Nov 24 14:30:49 doko, is that only on oneiric buildd's or any arm buildd building in an oneiric chroot Nov 24 14:30:49 apw, should be for any buildd which is used to build precise (which I understand is oneiric) Nov 24 14:33:23 doko / ppisati: Half the buildds are babbages running lucid, or maybe maverick? The other half are Pandas running either natty or oneiric. Nov 24 14:33:34 Because that's not confusing at all. Nov 24 14:34:28 :) Nov 24 14:34:49 babbage are lucid (imx51) Nov 24 14:35:08 panda could be anything from maverick onwards Nov 24 14:35:09 ok Nov 24 15:11:00 doko: infinity: there's a new O/omap4 kernel to test (see lp#861296) Nov 24 16:19:23 http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2011/11/24/square-board-with-five-edges/ - added test on usb Nov 24 16:43:30 have a nice rest of day Nov 24 17:06:46 ppisati: I'll test it here. Might also clear up another qrt script bug. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Nov 25 02:59:57 2011