**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 11 02:59:57 2011 Dec 11 04:16:26 infinity: also with that universal kernel plan Dec 11 04:17:01 infinity: http://trimslice.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=260 <-- seems archlinux have already started on such a project Dec 11 04:36:16 infinity: although I do see the problem of all older devices being id'd as harmony, and honeycomb tablets being id'd as ventana Dec 11 04:36:36 how well does ubuntu work on android tablets genially these days Dec 11 04:36:59 can you run it on an android phone such as galaxy s2.. can it dual boot Dec 11 04:37:59 I'm sure you could run it on the GS2, you probably wouldn't have acceleration, but it will boot; oh and samsungs bootloader is a bit of a pain so there wouldn't be dual boot Dec 11 04:38:14 samsung use 1 kernel for both normal and recovery boots Dec 11 04:38:36 where as on the asus transformer I use the boot/recovery split to wedge in dual boot Dec 11 04:45:24 whats Dec 11 04:45:34 what android devices are best for running ubuntu Dec 11 04:46:11 i don't have any so purchase decision could be influenced by existing ubuntu support Dec 11 04:51:48 hard to say Dec 11 04:51:57 what form factor would you be looking at Dec 11 04:52:24 I mean overall the AC100 is the most feature complete port Dec 11 04:52:36 phone or tablet, not sure. I don't currently have a smartphone. i have an iPad - so an android phone is tempting Dec 11 04:52:53 they actually have a decent team behind them, but that is really a netbook formfactor Dec 11 04:53:21 really the AC100 is probably the only one I could suggest right now Dec 11 04:53:25 There is an upcoming Toshiba with an nvidia3 in it Dec 11 04:53:36 Also a cortex A9, but more memory and power Dec 11 04:53:45 that sounds cool Dec 11 04:53:47 nvidia tegra3 rather Dec 11 04:53:58 Yep, but it's due late Feb, early March Dec 11 04:54:10 the AC100 is, I'd agree, the most complete port Dec 11 04:54:26 my port for the TF101 is really incomplete, and there is the problem that new devices don't have nvflash access to run the installer Dec 11 04:54:29 I'd avoid the Genesi MX .. it's got the least support right now Dec 11 04:55:29 i guess the ideal for me would be something like the asus transformer Dec 11 04:55:38 i like the idea of that a lot Dec 11 04:56:04 ceti331: the tf101 is amazing Dec 11 04:56:19 but frankly the port isn't quite there yet :) Dec 11 04:58:31 lilstevie: Where can I get the tf101? I've had a hell of a time finding one Dec 11 04:59:03 (plenty on Amazon, but for higher-than-I'd-like prices) Dec 11 04:59:20 and do they come with the keyboard? Or do you have to buy them separately? **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 11 05:00:37 2011 Dec 11 05:01:50 Martyn: well David Barth got mine for me, that was sans keyboard; but they do come with the keyboard if you get the 32GB vers, there is also a 16GB vers that comes with keyboard, but I have not seen it anywhere Dec 11 05:02:05 Martyn: if you are in the US I hear best buy have them Dec 11 05:02:15 and with a good price at the moment Dec 11 05:03:14 Martyn: least support how? Dec 11 05:03:28 TF101-A2 /B2 come with the dock, TF101-A1/B1 are sans dock Dec 11 05:33:14 steev_ : Genesei is always behind the main release by a whole release Dec 11 05:33:23 so they are -just- working on natty Dec 11 05:33:27 and Oneric is already out Dec 11 05:54:09 not entirely true, but also not entirely our fault... but he left so doesn't matter Dec 11 13:33:26 Hello! Can anybody give me an advise which ubuntu version currently is the most stable and supports the basic features like wifi, video acceleration and bluetooth of the pandaboard? I would like to use it as a multimedia platform. I've tried oneiric, but it seems to be not stable yet and there were problems with wifi, bluetooth and video Dec 11 13:44:07 maystar: if you are having problems with oneiric try natty Dec 11 13:58:57 I've read in the omapedia wiki that there is no video acceleration support in natty "yet". Is this information outdatet? Dec 11 21:05:21 Hey! Is anybody, who can explain me what's the difference between the linux-image-version-linaro-omap and the linux-image-version-linaro-lt-omap kernel version? They are both available in the linaro ppa, but I can't find any specific information about them Dec 11 21:18:41 maystar: You probably want to ask in another 24 hours or so. For many devs its still the weekend, and they are likely not around at the moment., Dec 11 21:24:27 ok, thanks! Dec 11 21:27:55 maystar: It has to do with how far they diverge from upstream. -linaro- kernels use linaro's common head, and -linaro-lt- kernels have extra patches from the SoC landing teams. Dec 11 21:28:51 maystar: The goal is for things to flow from landing teams to linaro common code to kernel.org upstream, but if you want to try the latest, greatest (and possibly broken) shiny that the landing teams are working on, that's what the -lt- kernels are for. Dec 12 00:15:06 Woohoo! There is a new release of the l4t stack, and we now have a gstreamer module for multimedia playback, and they even included a player with it. Dec 12 00:24:14 lilstevie: can you think of any reason why wifi wpa wouldn't work out-of-the-box under the ubuntu installed from your olife thingo? Dec 12 00:25:33 I noticed that android uses a different MAC for the same wlan0 NIC, so I have enabled both on the AP (openwrt hostapd), but it still doesn't like me. Dec 12 00:26:19 http://paste.debian.net/148936/ is the approach I'm trying Dec 12 00:28:31 twb: Which kernel are you running? Dec 12 00:29:45 2.6.36.4 Dec 12 00:30:06 The guy next to me has the 16GB model and is running olife as well and his is working. Dec 12 00:30:12 And I double-checked the PSK so WTF Dec 12 00:30:16 Ah ok. I had to try a couple of times to connect to my WPA network, but it connected eventually. Dec 12 00:30:31 But I use 2.6.38 with uBoot. Dec 12 00:30:59 Sorry I should clarrify. I can connect without issue running under 2.6.38, but had a few times where I had to retry when using the 2.6.36 kernel. Dec 12 00:31:07 OK Dec 12 00:33:51 Grr Dec 12 00:34:05 I can see wpa_supplicant associating and then being kicked off again (reason=0) Dec 12 00:36:18 infinity, the gcc-snapshot build on ain could be killed (superseded and will fail anyway). new one running on satiniash. could need a panda to build. afk now Dec 12 01:04:12 OK I give up for now Dec 12 01:04:39 Same AP is working under android, even. Even *copying* the wpa_supplicant.conf from android doesn't work. Dec 12 01:32:25 twb: interesting Dec 12 01:32:45 twb: can you pastie your whole dmesg Dec 12 01:32:59 TheMuso: yeah, u-boot installs are cool :p Dec 12 01:34:05 twb: wait, if you are using wpa_supplicant rather than network manager I have a few suggestions Dec 12 01:39:23 lilstevie: NM uses wpa_supplicant Dec 12 01:40:25 Hello, I'm looking for some help regarding bluetooth on the Pandaboard. I've tried to use both the onboard BT as well as an external USB BT adapter without success. I'm running Ubuntu 11.10. Has anyone successful got BT working or have suggestions for me? Dec 12 01:41:44 with the onboard bluetooth, I'm not even able to turn BT on. When I use the adapter, I can turn it on and even find BT devices but can't pair with any of them Dec 12 01:45:02 steev_: yes, but using the supplicant directly isn't straight forward Dec 12 01:49:09 So would it be possible to pair a wii remote with the pandaboard to use the wii remotes IR camera? Dec 12 01:49:26 And is it easier to use the onboard BT or the USB dongle? Dec 12 02:06:05 lilstevie: FWIW using supplicant directly is the same process I'm doing on every other wifi client I have Dec 12 02:06:18 lilstevie: those instructions I posted? I wrote those :-) Dec 12 02:06:34 Which dmesg did you want? Dec 12 02:06:47 your booted one, but then I saw how you were doing it Dec 12 02:07:02 k Dec 12 02:07:26 http://rootzwiki.com/topic/947-ubuntu-on-the-transformer/page__view__findpost__p__23297 Dec 12 02:08:11 thats how it was done before nm accepted the device as wireless Dec 12 02:09:04 I could try nm if you like Dec 12 02:10:08 I didn't try ap_scan=2; I'm getting as far as associating and auth'ing w/the AP, so that shouldn't matter... Dec 12 02:10:23 fair enought Dec 12 02:10:27 eough even Dec 12 02:10:31 ah Dec 12 02:10:34 I give up Dec 12 02:10:50 Yeah, it's bloody weird Dec 12 02:11:23 I'm going to test at home before I fiddle around much more, because at home I have a single PSK for all MACs, whereas as at work each MAC has its own PSK Dec 12 02:11:37 (Yes, I gave the same PSK to both android and ubuntu MACs) Dec 12 02:13:26 yeah, the MAC issue is a bit of a pita Dec 12 02:13:59 a closed source, and libbionic daemon does that Dec 12 02:15:35 Hum, maybe I have accdentally stoppd that Dec 12 02:15:46 IIRC the only service I turned off was lightdm tho Dec 12 02:20:27 lol Dec 12 02:20:47 I mean the MAC issue is a pita because it won't run Dec 12 02:20:55 Ah right Dec 12 02:20:57 and is closed source Dec 12 02:53:20 can anyone help me out with the bluetooth issue? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Dec 12 02:59:56 2011