**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 25 02:59:56 2012 Jan 25 06:22:54 so im trying to CC an arm kernel, http://pastebin.com/r9Ej93GH Jan 25 09:27:53 is it known that the pandaboard is droppping wireless a lot with precise? Jan 25 09:42:15 how do i get my package to build for armhf? Jan 25 09:48:16 TheMuso: hi, I am testing your fix to make openjdk swing applications work in combination with at-spi. I plan to send the patch upstream to icedtea to make the AtkWrapper the default for all distro openjdk builds. Jan 25 09:52:13 TheMuso: all in all, I can get accessibility to work under precise by using the AtkWrapper. Jan 25 09:52:33 TheMuso: i still have some problems getting the atk-wrapper to work under oneiric Jan 25 11:44:06 Hi, I was trying to boot ubuntu 10.10 on my BB-xm. Keyboard, mouse and moniotr are connected to the board and the board itself is connected with my pc. After inserting the microsd with U10.10 I have a typical output in my console, ending with Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel. After this, I can't do anything, also the screen remains dark. Is there anything I can do to make it work? Jan 25 11:44:55 use a newer release Jan 25 11:45:17 might well be that your board revision wasnt supported by 10.10 yet Jan 25 11:46:11 we often have the case that TI releases HW right around or right after an ubuntu release ... generally you should take the latest release, thats most likely to have all support for your HW Jan 25 11:46:58 Oh, ok. Thank you. Jan 25 12:00:27 NCommander, when you see this, what the plan with bug 921137? Do we need another bug for the default to be fixed so that netinstall works again? I use it for my dev multiple times a day and without an automated workaround I'm getting really slowed down Jan 25 12:00:28 Launchpad bug 921137 in flash-kernel "Flash-kernel-installer doesn't support d-i debian-installer/add-kernel-opts in preseed " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/921137 Jan 25 12:57:08 bug 540645 Jan 25 12:57:09 Launchpad bug 540645 in plymouth "no fsck messages shown in details mode (no splash on cmdline)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/540645 Jan 25 13:12:10 ppisati: it appears we are missing cpu_freq into the precise kernel config (ti-omap4 branch) Jan 25 13:22:07 ogra_ - ping Jan 25 13:29:06 brendand, hi Jan 25 13:33:17 sebjan: right, any preference for the governor? Jan 25 13:34:02 sebjan, i think the x86 kernels were moved to cpuidle insted of cpufreq, seems that was carried into the arm kernels Jan 25 13:34:14 (by accident i guess) Jan 25 13:35:28 actually they are trying to move arm to cpuidle too Jan 25 13:35:40 but it's no ready yet Jan 25 13:36:12 right, so we should keep whats working in the distro kernel and leave the crack bits to linaro ;) Jan 25 13:36:20 agree Jan 25 13:38:03 ppisati: by default we can select performance. user space will enforce ondemand after a while Jan 25 13:38:28 right, we have an upstart job for that Jan 25 13:38:36 yep Jan 25 13:41:02 ppisati: we also miss some flags for enabling the kernel thermal management Jan 25 13:41:06 ogra_ - is there anything specific we need to do to make a package build for armhf? Jan 25 13:41:28 we need the changes in this commit: http://dev.omapzoom.org/?p=integration/kernel-ubuntu.git;a=commitdiff;h=c9b8185d6ebb87e4beacd0874dc50a8eca8c39e9 Jan 25 13:41:35 let me see Jan 25 13:42:02 brendand, the debain/control file should have armhf in it if its not "any" and lists things like armel separately, beyond that it should just build Jan 25 13:42:19 all "any" packages usually do Jan 25 13:42:30 ogra_ - ours has 'all' (same thing?) Jan 25 13:43:17 well, no, "all" is usually only built on x86 adn copied over since defining "all" means there arent any arch specific bits in it at all Jan 25 13:43:51 at least thats how it is done in the archive, i think PPAs work a bit different, not sure though Jan 25 13:44:16 heh, well i was wrong. it is 'any' Jan 25 13:44:22 ah, k Jan 25 13:44:27 then it should just build Jan 25 13:44:41 ogra_ - maybe we need to build again. is armhf builds a recent introduction? Jan 25 13:45:05 we have the arch since two months or so Jan 25 13:45:37 sebjan: OMAP_DIE_GOVERNOR seems doesn't exist in our tree Jan 25 13:45:38 what package is that ? Jan 25 13:45:58 * sebjan looks Jan 25 13:46:03 sebjan: neither OMAP_THERMAL Jan 25 13:46:55 ppisati: you have both, but they depend on disabled flags Jan 25 13:47:14 (thermal_framework?) Jan 25 13:47:20 sebjan: right Jan 25 13:47:24 saw it just now Jan 25 13:47:47 ogra_ - this is a PPA by the way. maybe some change needs to be made to the PPA? Jan 25 13:48:03 i'm just guessing Jan 25 13:48:23 brendand, oh, indeed, you need to file an RT to get armhf enabled (if your PPA already has armel thats quick and easy) Jan 25 13:48:55 ogra_ - an RT? ok - but how would you do it as a non-canonical person? Jan 25 13:49:10 (i am, so this point is moot, but...) Jan 25 13:49:55 brendand, we dont allow non canonical people to use arm PPAs yet (security issues that will be solved soon) Jan 25 13:50:07 ogra_ - i see Jan 25 13:50:10 so this only works for private PPAs atm Jan 25 13:50:33 of teams that have only canonical people in them indeed Jan 25 14:17:02 hi, all. How can I setup dvi as a default screen? I use ubuntu-oneiric (only kernel, btw, but it doesn't matter) Jan 25 14:19:43 sebjan: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ppisati/ubuntu-precise.git;a=commit;h=cd3338daa84b6d891f4d9812b2f545e664b5fa97 Jan 25 14:19:49 sebjan: and http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ppisati/ubuntu-precise.git;a=commit;h=9beb67b9255a6c7e47a8c12f46f76ad3f74d98a0 Jan 25 14:19:56 i'm building a test kernel right now Jan 25 14:22:30 ok cool Jan 25 15:01:53 sebjan: how do i check if the themal/cpu_freq is working well? Jan 25 15:03:13 ppisati: hum, you can try by loading your pandaES a lot, and monitor the cpu frequency Jan 25 15:03:30 sebjan: i don't have a pandaES Jan 25 15:03:51 ppisati: if you can share your .deb, I can git it a try and tell you Jan 25 15:04:00 sebjan: ok Jan 25 15:06:16 sebjan: http://people.canonical.com/~ppisati/linux-image-3.2.0-1404-omap4_3.2.0-1404.6~thermalrevcma_armel.deb Jan 25 15:08:38 ppisati: I'm installing it and will test. I'll let you know then Jan 25 16:16:48 NCommander: ping Jan 25 17:12:57 Gruemaster: ping Jan 25 17:14:08 there he is ! Jan 25 17:17:39 GrueMaster, soo by reading the kernel ML it seems like ppisati is already pushing the patch for the kernel fis, no need to mangle your preseed stuff for a new kernel cmdline Jan 25 17:17:45 should be fixed by A2 Jan 25 17:17:59 s/fis/fix/ Jan 25 17:18:15 A2 doesn't help today. Mangling the preseed is easy and immediate. Jan 25 17:18:24 i'll make sure to drop all mem= args for A2 too Jan 25 17:18:32 And easily reversed. Jan 25 17:18:37 sure Jan 25 17:19:38 ppisati: What is the fix for the mem= issue? Jan 25 17:19:48 disabling CMA Jan 25 17:19:56 as discussed here last night Jan 25 17:20:39 But that will disable a lot more (USB Cameras, etc). Jan 25 17:20:48 i dont think so Jan 25 17:21:08 it should just affect the internal camera interface Jan 25 17:21:30 Ok, that means blaze. Jan 25 17:22:14 just the omap4 camera Jan 25 17:22:28 v4l i resent a new pull req Jan 25 17:22:29 and panda ... Jan 25 17:22:32 with some PM stuff in Jan 25 17:23:07 (there is a camera interface on the panda too, not that we make any use of it indeed) Jan 25 17:23:19 ok, so this just brings us up to date w/ Ti then I take it? Jan 25 17:23:24 i didn't even know there was a dedicated camera interface Jan 25 17:23:51 We don't use the camera interface, but community members do. I have seen some discussions on the pandaboard mailing list about it. Jan 25 17:23:53 on the socket header Jan 25 17:24:14 GrueMaster: they can move to Q (or install stuff from the ppa_ Jan 25 17:24:19 right, and in #pandaboard too Jan 25 17:24:22 at least the kernel Jan 25 17:24:25 Ok. Jan 25 17:25:05 if they use the camera they probably also want to accelerate the displaying of the movies they take, so the PPA is needed anyway Jan 25 17:28:35 Fair enough. Jan 25 17:30:40 rbasak: In my preseed, I added "sed -i 's/splash/fixrtc console=ttyO2,115200 mem=456M@0x80000000 mem=512M@0xA0000000/' /boot/boot.script;flash-kernel;echo 'ledtrig-heartbeat' >>/etc/modules" to the preseed/late_command. Worked fine (and I also get the blinken(tm) lights back). Jan 25 17:31:25 hi Jan 25 17:31:30 Actually interesting to watch 4 pandas in a stack all blinking in time with daft punk. Jan 25 17:32:00 hmm can anyone tell me, why ubuntu(11.10) is so slow on my pandaboard? Jan 25 17:32:14 is there any possibility to enchance speed=? Jan 25 17:32:33 -c Jan 25 17:32:35 S0NiC: Are you running from SD? That is the main issue. Jan 25 17:32:35 +d Jan 25 17:32:42 GrueMaster: yes Jan 25 17:32:46 Not much can be done there. Jan 25 17:32:52 hmm shoot... Jan 25 17:33:14 But I see a speed increase of ~6-10x running from USB drive. Jan 25 17:33:16 hmm maybe deaktivate unity? Jan 25 17:33:20 a lot can be done there .... but it starts with changing the SDHC spec ;) Jan 25 17:33:27 ogra_: ;D Jan 25 17:34:26 thanks GrueMaster, I'll try that! Jan 25 17:36:50 ogra_: What is the plan for armel image builds? How soon can we start phasing them out? At least for omap/omap4. Jan 25 17:37:03 we wont Jan 25 17:37:15 but we will stop testing them after FF Jan 25 17:38:10 If they are available for milestones, they are tested (or I get constant nagging). That's why I ask. Jan 25 17:38:26 well, they will still be there for A2 Jan 25 17:38:46 but after that they are "community" images and we explicitly wont test them Jan 25 17:39:28 as long as we carry armel in the archive we need to give users an install opportunity, even if its untested Jan 25 17:39:39 What's this "we" stuff? I test all images during milestones (even kubuntu). Jan 25 17:39:41 and armel wont go away before Q Jan 25 17:39:56 it was discussed several times in budapest Jan 25 17:40:19 is that normal, that i have to wait about 10 seconds till ff starts? Jan 25 17:40:32 "we" as in paid people working on arm stuff Jan 25 17:41:01 S0NiC, on SD thats actually pretty fast ... i have seen things like 30sec in the past Jan 25 17:41:15 ogra_: ok thx Jan 25 17:41:39 maybe it speeds up if i choose gnome instead of unity? Jan 25 17:41:54 S0NiC: If you want a little boost in performance, try the armhf images for precise. Jan 25 17:42:02 that wont change the speed of your disk access Jan 25 17:42:12 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/ Jan 25 17:42:52 No, but app performance is better. Jan 25 17:43:16 thx guys... hmm if i open software center i only get a grey window. maybe iam to impatient? ;D Jan 25 17:44:17 it also reads from disk a lot Jan 25 17:44:46 now i have a touchpannel... i wonder it works out of the box... ;D Jan 25 17:44:54 but its not realy precisce Jan 25 17:45:11 -c Jan 25 17:47:20 maybe i have to high prospects... Jan 25 17:54:59 hmm reboot Jan 25 17:55:00 brb Jan 25 17:59:35 re Jan 25 19:34:26 Folks do anyone on this channel knows if the Ubuntu Precise Pangolin daily configure the PandaBoard ES to run @ 1.2Ghz? Jan 25 19:34:30 re Jan 25 19:35:03 In the 11.10 release it was only configured for 700Mhz.. I dont know if the right patches have been integrated into the Precise Pangolin dailys for ES.... Jan 25 19:46:50 jayabharath: Upgrading and testing the kernel is a surefire way to find out. Jan 25 19:47:20 jayabharath: But, AFAIK, precise fully supports the 4460. Jan 25 19:51:07 infinity: thx? it used to be supported even in 11.10.. but I was more concerend about speed? Jan 25 19:51:54 jayabharath: Hence why I said "fully supported". Jan 25 19:52:20 jayabharath: In oneiric, I believe it was artificially limited for thermal reasons, and that's been resolved now. But I don't have a 4460 here to check. Jan 25 19:52:54 infinity: Great.. I guess I will give it a spin Jan 25 20:18:48 hmm did anyone get a touchscreen to work under ubuntu-arm? Jan 25 20:19:41 iam using ubuntu 11.10 and i have a egalax driver. and it works out of the box. but the finger is not there where the mouse is... Jan 25 20:19:44 any ideas? **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 25 23:56:08 2012 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jan 26 02:59:57 2012