**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 31 02:59:58 2012 Jan 31 03:05:26 I would imagine if you use the mx53 board the easiset thing would be to output via a serial port in ssh/telnet and skimp on the video module. Jan 31 04:22:23 Anyone using an MX53? Jan 31 04:22:45 I built the entire BSP, but I can't find the GPU driver. Someone said it was gpu.ko but it's not there. Bit mystified :) Jan 31 04:52:59 trying to figure out how to ssh into Beaglebone with it installed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAP Jan 31 05:01:44 also hellogl_es2 starts up but the gl widget is black Jan 31 08:31:55 plop Jan 31 08:33:20 doko, how can I know which files are compiled in glibc? Looking at the Makefiles, I have no clue... for example in sysdeps/ieee754, there are *four* e_lgammal_r.c ! Jan 31 10:01:34 greetings, with regard to rootstock, it now claims to be replaced by live-build (Which seems to generate iso's). Is there a HOWTO that I haven't found yet for using live-build to build a root tarball Jan 31 11:49:48 greetings, with regard to rootstock, it now claims to be replaced by live-build (Which seems to generate iso's). Is there a HOWTO that I haven't found yet for using live-build to build a root tarball Jan 31 11:49:58 basically I just need something to copy onto an SD card Jan 31 12:06:47 overnight: 39 success, 9 failures (looks like the same debootstrap proxy/skew problem) Jan 31 12:07:41 trelane, if you just want a minimal rootfs, have a look at ubuntu-core (it is totally unconfigured though) Jan 31 12:15:50 ogra_: noted. I don't need a lot of config, though that looks like it includes some things I don't need Jan 31 12:16:44 ?? Jan 31 12:16:53 it is the most minimal ubuntu you can build Jan 31 12:16:55 pulse, gtk, etc Jan 31 12:17:02 by definition just enough OS to run apt Jan 31 12:17:12 ok Base Core = Core Jan 31 12:17:13 got it Jan 31 12:17:18 no Jan 31 12:17:34 trying to figure out what Ubuntu-Core is based on the flow chart on the core website Jan 31 12:17:37 i'm talking about the ubuntu-core tarballs you can get on cdimage.ubuntu.com Jan 31 12:18:11 it contains everything debooorstrap --minbase installs plus apt and its deps Jan 31 12:18:23 ok, yeah that's small Jan 31 12:18:32 has no users or rootpw configured nor does it have a network setup, hostname etc Jan 31 12:18:58 tarball is around 30M... unpacked it should be between 80 and 120M Jan 31 12:20:33 ok that's no big deal at all. I can script that and do the construction in qemu :) Jan 31 12:20:54 thanks! Jan 31 12:27:17 trelane: you might find that useful http://omappedia.org/wiki/OMAP_Ubuntu_Core Jan 31 12:27:49 ndec: already found it on my own Jan 31 12:27:54 reading it now Jan 31 12:28:00 hey, google is cool ;-) Jan 31 12:28:22 ndec: I'm actually an idiot, I merely have lighting fast google skills and therefore can fool most people Jan 31 12:28:49 you guys might want to put a note on the rootstock page that ubuntu-core is now the preferred solution Jan 31 12:28:57 i will update it soon with a section about using mainline kernel and uboot instead of the prebuilt kernel from ubuntu. but basically if you checkout any recent mainline, and build you can use that with ubuntu-core just fine. Jan 31 12:29:57 ndec, there is a typo btw Jan 31 12:30:07 where? Jan 31 12:30:10 sudo C_ALL=C chroot . /bin/bash Jan 31 12:30:15 should be LC_ALL Jan 31 12:30:15 I'm usually a Funtoo (Gentoo fork) guy, and after a few hours of looking at the OE build system, how they attempted to emulate gentoo, FAILED TOTALLY, then stuck somethign vaguely debian like on top, I gave up Jan 31 12:30:36 ogra_: let me check Jan 31 12:30:55 I don't know how OE happened but if there wasn't enough alcohol involved to stun a team of oxen... I'd be shocked. Jan 31 12:32:13 ogra_: fixed Jan 31 12:32:19 great :) Jan 31 12:32:49 trelane: this is probably not the right place to talk about OE, even for bashing against OE ... Jan 31 12:33:01 noted :) Jan 31 15:49:10 rbasak: did you manage to test the new kernel with the installer? Jan 31 16:53:22 ppisati: I just ran netinstall as part of my milestone testing. Seems to have run just fine. I'll check the logs for any unnoticed residue. Jan 31 16:53:45 GrueMaster: where can I find a basic intro to installing ubuntu on a pandaboard? Jan 31 16:54:04 GrueMaster: cool Jan 31 16:54:29 Riddell: I think there is a link off http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM Jan 31 16:54:58 Also linked from the image download pages on cdimage. Jan 31 17:10:04 ogra_: hi. on our private PPA we have a msg like that "A recent upload has resulted in 5 pending builds. " do you know what that means? Jan 31 17:10:16 nope Jan 31 17:10:16 or davidm if you're around... Jan 31 17:11:10 ogra_: argh, not sure if it looks good or not. who should i ask? Jan 31 17:11:41 i would assume your packages sit in the queue or some such Jan 31 17:13:49 ogra_: another problem is that now that we start pushing kernel in PPA, we are reaching the size limit quickly. Jan 31 17:14:14 that shouldnt be a prob, though likely needs davids approval first Jan 31 17:14:55 you could ask in #launchpad if they can just bump the size, if they need any additional approval we can manage i guess Jan 31 17:15:05 ok. **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 31 17:23:32 2012 Jan 31 17:35:31 ppisati: Did you see my earlier message? I may have experienced an irc net-split. Jan 31 17:38:13 infinity: ogra_: thx. looks like our builds are going on now. Jan 31 17:38:26 :) Jan 31 17:38:32 about the size, I will request for more indeed. will ask you if i need support Jan 31 17:38:45 dont hesitate :) Jan 31 17:40:18 why would i ;-) Jan 31 17:40:55 GrueMaster: nope, which one? Jan 31 17:41:16 ppisati: I just ran netinstall as part of my milestone testing. Seems to have run just fine. I'll check the logs for any unnoticed residue. Jan 31 17:41:27 Re: omap kernel mac address. Jan 31 17:41:42 GrueMaster: what's that? Jan 31 17:41:57 ogra_: That was a lot earlier. Jan 31 17:42:23 GrueMaster, oh, then your other messages went unnoticed Jan 31 17:42:29 ppisati: On the omap kernel, you mentioned something about a change for the mac address? Is it just enabling the "smsc95xx.macaddr=" parameter in the module or is it getting the mac from the soc die id? Jan 31 17:42:42 There, reposted. Jan 31 17:42:52 GrueMaster: the second one Jan 31 17:43:14 GrueMaster: it seems i can't change the mac anymore Jan 31 17:43:43 Cool, thanks. I'll double check it here and let you know how well it works. Jan 31 17:43:44 GrueMaster: sudo ifconfig eth0 hw ether 00:11:22:33:44:55 Jan 31 17:44:21 Nah, just reboot. If it stays the same, my dhcp server will know immediately. Jan 31 17:44:33 k Jan 31 17:45:31 While you're here, on omap4, is there a camera module built into the kernel now? oem-config is trying to take a picture but there is no camera so it only has a small section of the previous screen. Jan 31 17:47:32 it shouldnt offer you to take the pic in the first place if there is no camere attached Jan 31 17:49:39 ppisati: no random panics after 48 test installs overnight. I'm using a kernel I built from the git source tree yesterday - not sure what the installer kernel is at the moment. So it's looking good. Jan 31 17:50:32 ogra_: Hence why I asked. If ubiquity is detecting a camera module, it is activating that section. Jan 31 17:50:52 It doesn't do it on omap or mx5. Jan 31 17:52:43 i guess it looks for the actual device in /dev Jan 31 17:53:08 GrueMaster, look for /dev/videoX Jan 31 17:53:44 yep. /dev/video0 exists. Jan 31 17:53:54 that might be it Jan 31 17:55:04 Found it in dmesg. "Linux video capture interface: v2.00" Jan 31 17:55:40 crap ... i wonder how ubiquity should find out if there is actually a camera attached Jan 31 17:56:00 /dev/video0 might as well come from your TV card or some such Jan 31 17:56:39 so that bug can happen on such setups too Jan 31 17:56:58 That might be...interesting. Have it take a snapshot of a klingon or something. Jan 31 17:57:06 heh Jan 31 17:57:22 So, I should file a bug against ubiquity for this? Jan 31 17:57:24 GrueMaster: yep, there's camera support in it but it should be broken Jan 31 17:59:08 GrueMaster, yes Jan 31 17:59:28 if there isnt one already Jan 31 17:59:33 ok. Jan 31 17:59:50 i can easily imagine there are a lot video capture cards out there where people see it too Jan 31 17:59:53 * GrueMaster notes this will be the 4th bug filed in 2 days on ubiquity/oem-config. Jan 31 18:00:03 awesome Jan 31 18:00:19 to sad we dont have an ubiquity maintainer atm Jan 31 18:00:43 ??? Jan 31 18:00:52 Where's Evan or Colin? Jan 31 18:00:53 ev doesnt do it this release Jan 31 18:01:04 Ah. Jan 31 18:01:23 colin and stgraber step in for him though Jan 31 18:02:45 I was looking at that code yesterday, trying to figure out preseeding. What a mess. Jan 31 18:03:44 it all becomes clear with enough alcohol in your blood though Jan 31 18:06:09 * GrueMaster needs to make an emergency run to the liquor store. Jan 31 18:06:45 This camera module, how is it supposed to report no camera detected? Jan 31 18:07:25 dont forget to expense it ! Jan 31 18:17:57 GrueMaster: ogra_: we did get some problems with 11.10 when using a kernel with v4l2 camera driver on panda... Jan 31 18:18:27 some of our panda don't have the actual camera plugged, but the kernel does not detect that... and ubiquity tries to make a picture... Jan 31 18:18:39 ndec, yes, we had issues in 12.04 too, thats why it was disabled Jan 31 18:18:53 but not completely it seems Jan 31 18:19:11 on panda? Jan 31 18:19:25 yep Jan 31 18:19:36 we have a horrible hack in ubiquity to bypass the camera detection... so if you come up with a proper fix this is better ;-) Jan 31 18:20:16 well, as i said above, i dont get how that works on systems with TV capture cards Jan 31 18:20:25 they surely also have /dev/video Jan 31 18:20:48 yep, i am interested to understand how ubiquity understands there is a camera too... if you figure out... Jan 31 18:21:06 well, tobin will file a bug, we will see :) Jan 31 18:21:29 please subscribe tiomap-dev on the bug Jan 31 18:21:39 k Jan 31 18:28:00 Done and done. Jan 31 18:28:17 Bug 924419 Jan 31 18:28:17 Launchpad bug 924419 in ubiquity "oem-config detecting camera where no camera exists" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/924419 Jan 31 18:30:08 thx ! Jan 31 18:40:26 ogra_: Where are the debug symbol packages for arm? ports or somewhere else? Jan 31 18:41:34 GrueMaster: Everything's on ddebs.ubuntu.com, but (and this is a big but), not everything is represented. :( Jan 31 18:41:54 GrueMaster: pitti keeps culling random old releases and non-primary arches as he runs out of space. Jan 31 18:42:33 GrueMaster: Though, we seem to have armel/armhf for precise, at least. Jan 31 18:43:54 Ok. ev wants me to run a backtrace on this ubiquity panel crash. Jan 31 18:44:42 Since I can't just file it. Jan 31 19:38:31 GrueMaster: did you reboot the beable? Jan 31 19:39:14 Doing so now. Got caught up in an installer bug on omap4. Jan 31 19:41:16 Nope, it didn't have the same mac on reboot. Jan 31 19:41:33 It was supposed to get it from the die id, right? Jan 31 19:44:23 nope, you get a random one Jan 31 19:44:38 but i thought you configured it to get a fixed one Jan 31 19:45:31 How do I configure the system to get a fixed mac address? Jan 31 19:46:32 via /etc/network/interfaces but i can't make it work anymore, that Jan 31 19:46:42 s why i asked, because i thought you did Jan 31 19:46:58 There is no way to automate that, especially during a netinstall. Jan 31 19:47:22 k Jan 31 19:47:25 I need either a die id (like omap4) or a kernel cmdline parameter. Jan 31 19:49:08 Die id is preferred as then I don't need to modify the preinstalled images. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Feb 01 02:59:57 2012