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Feb 23 05:07:33 <TheMuso> GrueMaster: I just fixed some of those alsa-lib errors you showed me the other day, seems 1.0.25 changed some syntax for its conf files.
Feb 23 07:45:49 <NCommander> aramadxp images now building momentary
Feb 23 08:51:20 <ppisati> ogra_: why is it called the FINAL arm meeting? do you plan to commit mass suicide after it (e.g. Lemmings)? :)
Feb 23 09:09:28 <janimo`> ppisati, the ARM team within Canonical is being dissolved and its memebers assigned to other teams in the company
Feb 23 09:17:49 <rbasak> NCommander: around? Daviey asked me about http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/precise_probs.html - are you aware of the "linux-armadaxp-tools-3.0.0-1500 has no installation candidate" in there, or is that resolved now?
Feb 23 09:18:12 <NCommander> !@#$#!@!
Feb 23 09:18:38 <NCommander> we shouldn't be building linux-tools
Feb 23 09:18:43 <NCommander> ^- cooloney
Feb 23 09:19:29 <cooloney> linux-tools built failed under armhf
Feb 23 09:20:01 <cooloney> so i disable it in out linux-armadaxp package due to urgent upload request
Feb 23 09:20:20 <cooloney> it can be built under armel, i think
Feb 23 09:23:31 <NCommander> cooloney: I don't think we even need it
Feb 23 09:24:12 <cooloney> NCommander: perf is very useful tool even for arm, we use it a lot for ti-omap4
Feb 23 09:24:32 <cooloney> NCommander: and I saw some new tools was added from Marvell LSP
Feb 23 09:24:38 <NCommander> cooloney: what would it take to fix it ?
Feb 23 09:25:03 <cooloney> NCommander: i guess it's related to compiler, but don't have much time to take a look
Feb 23 10:18:34 <infinity> cooloney: Oh, can you merge my latest armadaxp upload into git?
Feb 23 10:18:42 <infinity> (I really should request zinc access)
Feb 23 10:20:25 <infinity> cooloney: Oh, I see in another channel that you're already on top of it.  Nevermind. :)
Feb 23 15:50:18 <GrueMaster> ogra_: Did you get my email on the pandaES audio situation?
Feb 23 15:50:52 <ogra_> GrueMaster, yes, looks ok, lets upload it after someone (i.e. infinity) also eyeballed it quickly
Feb 23 15:51:18 <ogra_> that udev rule is our hack anyway, adding another few lines for PandaES wont do any harm
Feb 23 15:55:07 <infinity> ogra_: I'm sure you and Tobin are enough of a review.  And I'm happy to not take the blame on Panda audio this cycle. ;)
Feb 23 15:55:38 <ogra_> haha, ok, then i'll just upload after the call
Feb 23 16:37:03 <ogra_> WHEEE!
Feb 23 16:37:13 <ogra_> so chromium 17 seems to work just fine on armel
Feb 23 16:37:34 <ogra_> looks shiny, but takes twice as long as FF to start
Feb 23 16:45:29 <infinity> ogra_: Yeah, no big shock there.  It's just as bloated, just differently. :P
Feb 23 16:46:22 <ogra_> yep, but its great to have it after we had to live with 14 for ages
Feb 23 16:48:14 <GrueMaster> Not seeing chromium for armhf (at least not on my mirror yet).
Feb 23 16:52:50 <ogra_> GrueMaster, thats what we taljked about in the meeting :)
Feb 23 16:52:55 <ogra_> only armel yet
Feb 23 16:53:07 <ogra_> but it builds there for the first time in years
Feb 23 16:54:02 <GrueMaster> ah, ok.
Feb 23 17:07:13 <mahmoh> NCommander: armadaxp netinstall uImage resets, bug 939645
Feb 23 17:07:24 <mahmoh> (which doesn't exist yet)
Feb 23 17:07:46 <NCommander> mahmoh: the image fails to boot?
Feb 23 17:07:52 <NCommander> greaaaaaaaaaaaat
Feb 23 17:07:58 <mahmoh> right
Feb 23 17:08:06 <NCommander> GrueMaster: ^, can you take a look?
Feb 23 17:08:06 <mahmoh> ubot2`: ?
Feb 23 17:08:36 <GrueMaster> NCommander: Can I nuke the armada here or do you have data that you want to keep?
Feb 23 17:08:36 <mahmoh> for me at least, I'm using the 1500.3 uImage and the net installer uInitrd now
Feb 23 17:08:50 <NCommander> GrueMaster: nuke and path.
Feb 23 17:08:59 <NCommander> *pave
Feb 23 17:09:00 <GrueMaster> ok
Feb 23 17:09:12 <GrueMaster> I'm in a meeting now, but will be soon.
Feb 23 17:09:53 <NCommander> mahmoh: so it doesn't boot at all? You got the bootargs right?
Feb 23 17:10:13 <mahmoh> NCommander: it loads and tries to boot but resets immediately
Feb 23 17:10:34 <NCommander> mahmoh: ugh, might be an issue with the mkimage commands
Feb 23 17:10:38 <infinity> mahmoh: Gets into userspace, or dies in kernel init?
Feb 23 17:10:49 <mahmoh> disclaimer: I did tftpboot it though but the checksum was fine so ...
Feb 23 17:11:21 <mahmoh> infinity: dies before kernel init, right after load - you should be able to get to the bug
Feb 23 17:11:29 <infinity> Oh, shiny.
Feb 23 17:11:37 <infinity> (And no, I can't get the bug, I don't have the hardware)
Feb 23 17:12:18 <mahmoh> infinity: I meant see the bug (maybe) to see the details of where it fails exactly
Feb 23 17:13:02 <mahmoh> Starting kernel ...  interrupt request pc : [<0000803c>]          lr : [<006505cc>] sp : 005ffde0  ip : fffeffff     fp : 006d6ce8 r10: 005fff98  r9 : 00000bdc     r8 : 005fffcc r7 : 00000018  r6 : 005ffdec     r5 : 00000000  r4 : 005ffef7 r3 : 00008010  r2 : 000000f8     r1 : 00000bdc  r0 : 0040ff14 Flags: Nzcv  IRQs off  FIQs off  Mode SVC_32 Resetting CPU ...
Feb 23 17:13:41 <mahmoh> NCommander: the good news is the uInitrd looks like it's fine so far ...
Feb 23 17:30:56 <NCommander> mahmoh: god thats special
Feb 23 17:31:05 <NCommander> mahmoh: try it with a differentuImage
Feb 23 17:42:30 <GrueMaster> Yea, I see the same thing.  Will look at the kernel a little.
Feb 23 17:48:54 <GrueMaster> Did the linux-armadaxp meta get bumped?  It seems to be pulling linux-image-3.0.0-1500-armadaxp 3.0.0-1500.2 instead of 3.0.0-1500.3
Feb 23 17:50:49 <GrueMaster> apt-get dist-upgrade is pulling the kernel in, but usually I should be able to just do apt-get update && apt-get install linux-armadaxp to update the kernel.
Feb 23 17:53:34 <GrueMaster> grrr.  resolvconf install error.
Feb 23 17:56:02 <infinity> GrueMaster: That trick only works in the case of ABI bumps.
Feb 23 17:56:30 <GrueMaster> ok.
Feb 23 17:56:31 <infinity> GrueMaster: No ABI bump means no new linux-meta, means you need to upgrade the kernel image itself, not count on linux-meta to do it.
Feb 23 17:56:58 <infinity> (But, as you note, apt-get upgrade gets it right)
Feb 23 18:01:10 <GrueMaster> Guess I'm just used to more that a minor change with new kernels.
Feb 23 18:03:36 <GrueMaster> Ok, the kernel in ubuntu-ports/dists/precise/main/installer-armhf/20101020ubuntu113/images/armadaxp/ is busted.  Not even sure of it's origins.
Feb 23 18:08:06 <micahg> infinity: sorry, I started to look at it, but lost my session (forgot to run in screen)
Feb 23 18:08:24 <micahg> infinity: for chromium on armhf, if someone else has time to look, feel free
Feb 23 18:08:28 <infinity> micahg: Oops.
Feb 23 18:09:10 <infinity> I'm pretty craptacularly busy today, but remind me tomorrow to kick off a build, so I can look at it Monday. :P
Feb 23 18:09:43 <infinity> GrueMaster: Yeah, I think the SRU 2-week cadence with an ABI bump almost every time has conditioned people to assume that new kernel == new ABI.
Feb 23 18:12:31 <micahg> infinity: that's about the same timeframe I have :)
Feb 23 18:18:33 <GrueMaster> ppisati: The mmap patch seems to have fallen out of the 2.6.35 omap4 kernel.
Feb 23 18:21:28 <ppisati> GrueMaster: uh? it was there
Feb 23 18:21:36 <ppisati> GrueMaster: wait
Feb 23 18:23:35 <ppisati> GrueMaster: gitweb on kernel.u.com is sloooooooowwww...
Feb 23 18:24:05 <ogra_> use bzr !
Feb 23 18:24:08 <ogra_> :P
Feb 23 18:25:20 <ppisati> ogra_: i'll send a pull req to convert from git to bzr :)
Feb 23 18:25:26 <ppisati> GrueMaster: patches are still there
Feb 23 18:25:41 <ppisati> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-maverick.git;a=commit;h=2956dd26b949343aca5581356bff6c1cf18a22c2
Feb 23 18:25:45 <ppisati> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-maverick.git;a=commit;h=ddc72fa76d3965ca3576cfbc7a1de6e1e4b4a681
Feb 23 18:25:58 <ppisati> M/omap4
Feb 23 18:26:05 <GrueMaster> Maybe in the tree, but the tests are failing.
Feb 23 18:26:05 <GrueMaster> sudo ./mmap-test
Feb 23 18:26:05 <GrueMaster> Couldn't allocate the heap: 1902Mb
Feb 23 18:26:15 <ppisati> doh!
Feb 23 18:26:28 <ppisati> SRU kernel?
Feb 23 18:26:42 <GrueMaster> These are the tests included from the earlier bug (can't remember the bug number.
Feb 23 18:26:47 <GrueMaster> Yes, latest SRU kernel.
Feb 23 18:26:56 <ppisati> ok, i'll check it out
Feb 23 18:27:05 <GrueMaster> 2.6.35-903-omap4 #31-Ubuntu
Feb 23 18:27:07 <ppisati> remind me where the test are located
Feb 23 18:27:29 <ppisati> *these tests
Feb 23 18:27:31 <GrueMaster> I'm trying to find the original bug.  It was fix released a while ago.
Feb 23 18:28:26 <GrueMaster> (and of course the bug isn't in the test source.
Feb 23 18:32:10 <GrueMaster> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/861296
Feb 23 18:32:13 <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 861296 in linux-ti-omap4 "mmap fails to allocate 2030Mb heap on ARM" [Undecided,Fix committed]
Feb 23 18:32:57 <xranby_ac100> GrueMaster: the original bug was that eclipse failed to compile on arm
Feb 23 18:33:49 <xranby_ac100> since the eclipse build passed some herejava please use insane amounts of memory plx
Feb 23 18:33:49 <xranby_ac100> and this made x86 builds pass while arm where failing due to this bug
Feb 23 18:33:49 <GrueMaster> xranby_ac100: I think it was renamed or a new bug with specific info was created (see above).
Feb 23 18:35:01 <xranby_ac100> im not sure there exist an original bug.. try ask doko
Feb 23 18:35:27 <xranby_ac100> since it was clear mmap did not behave identical on x86 and arm i filed the above bug
Feb 23 18:35:28 <GrueMaster> xranby_ac100: I already posted the link (see backscroll).
Feb 23 18:35:45 * xranby_ac100 scrolls back
Feb 23 18:36:10 <xranby_ac100> GrueMaster: before i rejoined?
Feb 23 18:36:36 <GrueMaster> bug 861296 is what I was referring to.
Feb 23 18:36:38 <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 861296 in linux-ti-omap4 "mmap fails to allocate 2030Mb heap on ARM" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/861296
Feb 23 18:36:53 <GrueMaster> It has the mmap-test source.
Feb 23 18:38:22 <infinity> xranby_ac100: haskell-src-exts and qtwebkit-source are still FTBFS with OOMing issues.
Feb 23 18:38:28 <xranby_ac100> (07:26:30 PM) GrueMaster: Couldn't allocate the heap: 1902Mb  <---- how much swap are in use on your test system?
Feb 23 18:39:00 <infinity> I'm not convinced that it's this particular issue, though.  I can get the mmap test to pass on some kernels where the builds will still fail. :/
Feb 23 18:39:09 <GrueMaster> SwapTotal:      33554428 kB
Feb 23 18:39:30 <xranby_ac100> ok
Feb 23 18:40:03 <infinity> I think I probably need to spend some solid time revisiting that next week and hunt down the root cause before we get too close to release.
Feb 23 18:40:16 <GrueMaster> xranby_ac100: I run the same SRU test suite on all platforms and kernels.  This passed on the previous kernel for this platform.  Every image is installed from netboot & preseed.
Feb 23 18:41:06 <xranby_ac100> GrueMaster: i am convinced
Feb 23 18:41:10 <xranby_ac100> btw, thank you for running those tests
Feb 23 18:41:56 <GrueMaster> I added them to my SRU regression testing specifically for this reason.
Feb 23 18:46:31 <infinity> micahg: Kicking off a chromium testbuild locally now, but yeah, my timeframe for looking at it is probably still Monday. ;)
Feb 23 18:48:07 <infinity> micahg: Kicking off a chromium testbuild locally now, but yeah, my timeframe for looking at it is probably still Monday. ;)
Feb 23 18:53:10 * ppisati -> EOD
Feb 23 18:54:47 <GrueMaster> ppisati: Also, still missing headers from the dove headers package.
Feb 23 18:55:07 <GrueMaster> linux-headers-2.6.32-423 is virtually empty.
Feb 23 18:55:26 <GrueMaster> (changelog & copyright info only).
Feb 23 18:55:39 <infinity> GrueMaster: Yeah, didn't we agree that we just didn't deeply care anyway? :)
Feb 23 18:56:20 <GrueMaster> infinity: really should be a kernel team call on that, but in general yes.
Feb 23 18:56:41 <GrueMaster> (and I had thought he was going to look at it).
Feb 23 18:56:42 <infinity> GrueMaster: well, yes.  If they care, they can fix it.  But I'm betting they don't if we don't.
Feb 23 18:56:53 <infinity> And I'd be shocked if we had any dove users.
Feb 23 18:57:25 <ogra_> we do !
Feb 23 18:57:29 <ogra_> GrueMaster !
Feb 23 18:57:38 <infinity> ogra_: I said users, not QA testers. :P
Feb 23 18:57:41 <ogra_> heh
Feb 23 18:58:18 <GrueMaster> I think there are commercial users, but maybe not for this specific kernel.
Feb 23 18:58:33 <infinity> ogra_: If GrueMaster's desk is representative of our average user, we're doing a pretty poor job of targetting, well, normal people.
Feb 23 18:58:36 <ogra_> surely not on dove devboards
Feb 23 18:58:54 <GrueMaster> I know HP has a little desktop system (I've seen one at a friends house).
Feb 23 18:59:07 <ogra_> did they ever sell that armada ebox they showed in brussels ?
Feb 23 18:59:09 <infinity> Ubuntu: Linux for Crazy People?
Feb 23 18:59:21 <ogra_> isnt it that ?
Feb 23 18:59:29 <GrueMaster> And it has our kernel patches at least.
Feb 23 18:59:30 <ogra_> from crazy people for crazy people
Feb 23 18:59:47 <infinity> I'm pretty sure I have a t-shirt that says something about Human Beings.
Feb 23 18:59:55 * GrueMaster is having issues with LP.
Feb 23 18:59:59 <infinity> QA people don't qualify.
Feb 23 19:00:28 <GrueMaster> That's why my blog is titled "Terminal Insanity".
Feb 23 19:00:44 <infinity> ;)
Feb 23 19:00:49 <ogra_> GrueMaster, about time you gain membership
Feb 23 19:00:55 <ogra_> so it shows up on planet
Feb 23 19:01:24 <GrueMaster> Yea, I looked into that a while ago.  Lot of hassle.
Feb 23 19:01:32 <ogra_> heh
Feb 23 19:01:37 <ogra_> not really
Feb 23 19:01:48 <GrueMaster> And I just haven't had the spare cycles to jump through the hoops.
Feb 23 19:01:56 <ogra_> one wikipage that lists your contributions
Feb 23 19:02:09 <ogra_> and one evening to attend the rmb meeting
Feb 23 19:02:17 <mahmoh> NCommander: GrueMaster: otherwise, the net-installer works fine as far as I can tell, need to preseed it now to enable nightly install verification testing
Feb 23 19:02:32 <NCommander> mahmoh: I'll takea hammer to it
Feb 23 19:02:34 <ogra_> you surely got enough bugs under your belt to qualify easily
Feb 23 19:02:39 <GrueMaster> mahmoh: I'll pass you my preseed.
Feb 23 19:02:50 <mahmoh> thx
Feb 23 19:04:27 <GrueMaster> Guhhh.  What is going on with our web servers?  paste.ubuntu.com is slow, lp is almost non-existant.
Feb 23 19:05:38 <GrueMaster> and email is also having issues.
Feb 23 19:06:22 <infinity> GrueMaster: No issues here, perhaps you're suffering routing issues to the DC?
Feb 23 19:06:34 <GrueMaster> Must be.
Feb 23 19:07:15 <GrueMaster> ping seems fine.
Feb 23 19:57:29 <GrueMaster> mahmoh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/854454/
Feb 23 19:57:47 <GrueMaster> That's the preseed I am currently working with.
Feb 23 19:58:29 <mahmoh> GrueMaster: thx!
Feb 23 23:05:02 <slangasek> janimo`: for this apr upload in the freeze queue, what's the definition of "recent enough" for the kernels?
Feb 23 23:07:03 <ogra_> slangasek, hey, thanks for the welcome mail ! :)
Feb 23 23:07:39 <slangasek> :-)
Feb 24 01:22:55 <GrueMaster> TheMuso: I'm going through some old bugs and found lp:631362.  Any interest in this or should I close as "won't fix"?
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