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Mar 16 09:48:53 <ndec> ogra_: hi. do you mind if i cancel the call today?
Mar 16 09:49:06 <ndec> if you think there is anything we need to discuss, let me know
Mar 16 10:23:39 <ogra_> ndec, feel free, i dont have anything special
Mar 16 13:05:18 <brax> is there anybody that has 5 minutes to help me with a xrandr issue?
Mar 16 16:26:20 <prpplague> ogra_: yea, package updates have fixed my desktop issues!
Mar 16 16:26:35 <ogra_> awesome !
Mar 16 16:27:42 <prpplague> ogra_: actually have to reload my box at home, i fudged up and hosed the permissions for /usr
Mar 16 16:27:55 <ogra_> ouch !
Mar 16 16:37:12 <danboid> Looks like I need to recompile my panda kernel just to get ALSA sequencer support so what kernel version would you guys recommend and why?
Mar 16 16:37:46 <ogra_> the one your release has already
Mar 16 16:38:31 <GrueMaster> danboid: What issues are you seeing?  Precise Beta 1 works for both Panda/Panda ES ootb.
Mar 16 16:38:59 <ogra_> danboid, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
Mar 16 16:39:06 <ogra_> just use the source package
Mar 16 16:39:39 <danboid> GrueMaster, None of the current Linaro or Canonical omap4 kernels have ALSA sequencer support compiled in or as a module
Mar 16 16:39:40 <GrueMaster> (which I just discovered is broken in the daily images...again.)
Mar 16 16:40:05 <ogra_> right, who needs MIDI anyway :P
Mar 16 16:40:22 <ogra_> as long as your mp3's play
Mar 16 16:40:35 <ogra_> danboid, thats seriously worth filing a bug though
Mar 16 16:41:06 <danboid> As I've said before, Panda could be quite attractive to Linux musicians due to its silent aspect (if you use a SSD )
Mar 16 16:41:29 <ogra_> yeah, agreed, i was rather sarcastic above, not serious
Mar 16 16:41:41 <danboid> I'm hoping to use if for music production anyway
Mar 16 16:42:05 <ogra_> so a) file a bug, b) follow the wiki t recompile the kernel package with a config change
Mar 16 16:42:07 <danboid> ogra_, jk- said this has been fixed already
Mar 16 16:42:20 <ogra_> in the ubuntu package ?
Mar 16 16:42:41 <ogra_> ppisati, ^^^ did you enable alsa sequencer support in the config ?
Mar 16 16:42:44 <danboid> ogra_, I presume so but he's not been around today to give more info
Mar 16 16:42:46 * ogra_ doesnt think so
Mar 16 16:44:41 <danboid> If I want the pvr driver working am I best recompiling the standard kernel rather than going for the latest stable code?
Mar 16 16:45:25 <ppisati> i'm here
Mar 16 16:46:14 <danboid> ppisati, I was told the latest omap4 kernel configs have ALSA sequencer support enabled now?
Mar 16 16:47:38 <danboid> ppisati, If so, can I get a package anywhere of such  a kernel yet?
Mar 16 16:50:11 <GrueMaster> danboid: I see CONFIG_SND_SEQ_DUMMY=m in the current precise kernel.
Mar 16 16:50:29 <GrueMaster> And CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER=M as well.
Mar 16 16:50:40 <ppisati> sorry, was in a phone call
Mar 16 16:51:15 <danboid> GrueMaster, That'd do me but I expect I can't install a precise kernel under oneiric can I?
Mar 16 16:51:28 <GrueMaster> So you should be able to get the kernel either from a daily image or from http://ports.ubuntu.com.  ppisati can point you to the git tree if you really want to go deep.
Mar 16 16:51:30 <ppisati> danboid: yes you can
Mar 16 16:51:36 <GrueMaster> Why not?
Mar 16 16:51:55 <danboid> Hasn't armel been killed off in precise?
Mar 16 16:52:06 <GrueMaster> Just use the armel kernel variant (so as not to confuse dpkg).
Mar 16 16:52:11 <GrueMaster> Only the image builds.
Mar 16 16:52:40 <GrueMaster> Pool is still active, and I also regularly do netboot installs on my pandas for sanity checking.
Mar 16 16:52:51 <ogra_> we dont build armel images and we dont massively care for armel pacvkages either
Mar 16 16:53:02 <ogra_> the archive is still existing and wont go away
Mar 16 16:54:30 <danboid> ppisati, I can get a package for 11.10 armel with the snd-seq compiled as a module?
Mar 16 16:54:46 <ppisati> danboid: get the P kernel
Mar 16 16:54:56 <danboid> ppisati, ? Link?
Mar 16 16:55:06 <danboid> ppisati, please!
Mar 16 16:57:10 <ppisati> danboid: http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/main/l/linux-meta-ti-omap4/linux-image-omap4_3.2.0.1408.8_armel.deb
Mar 16 16:57:40 <danboid> ppisati, Thanks v. much! Will be trying that tonight! :)
Mar 16 17:04:48 <danboid> Thanks for your help guys!
Mar 16 17:21:03 <prp_> does anyone know how to install minicom on pandaboard. I tried sudo apt-get install minicom but it says E: unable to locate package minicom. I enabled all software sources and restarted but it still doesnt work
Mar 16 17:24:16 <GrueMaster> prp_: It should be there.
Mar 16 17:24:17 <GrueMaster> ubuntu@panda3:~$ apt-cache search minicom
Mar 16 17:24:17 <GrueMaster> cutecom - Graphical serial terminal, like minicom
Mar 16 17:24:17 <GrueMaster> minicom - friendly menu driven serial communication program
Mar 16 17:25:15 <prp_> thats exactly what i see
Mar 16 17:25:27 <GrueMaster> ubuntu@panda4:~$ apt-cache madison minicom
Mar 16 17:25:27 <GrueMaster>    minicom |      2.5-2 | http://mirror.gruenet/ubuntu-ports/ precise/universe armhf Packages
Mar 16 17:25:27 <GrueMaster>    minicom |      2.5-2 | http://mirror.gruenet/ubuntu-ports/ precise/universe Sources
Mar 16 17:26:03 <GrueMaster> Heh, local mirror, but should be identical to ports.u.c
Mar 16 17:27:07 <prp_> i opened ubuntu software manager and tried to install 7zip and it gave a button to use universe source. i clicked it, now minicom works as well
Mar 16 17:32:16 <GrueMaster> Note to self, don't run minicom in a remote screen session.  Key bindings are the same.
Mar 16 17:47:17 <steev_> GrueMaster: i normally use screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200, it gets confusing when i go a few screen sessions deep
Mar 16 17:47:45 <GrueMaster> steev_: I was only testing minicom on panda to verify it ran.
Mar 16 17:47:51 <steev_> ahh
Mar 16 17:48:00 <GrueMaster> I use screen for all my serial consols.
Mar 16 17:48:34 <steev_> i find it easier to use
Mar 16 17:48:51 <steev_> my buddy keeps trying to get me to switch to socat
Mar 16 17:50:40 <GrueMaster> I'm actually going to look for some kind of serial console app that can multiplex.  I need to have screen running, but I also want some script to be able to interact with netboot installs when needed.
Mar 16 17:51:11 <GrueMaster> Not sure if I can just attach to the screen session in python.
Mar 16 21:49:39 <xteejx_> Hi guys, anyone here that can answer 1 or 2 quick questions about Ubuntu for arm please?
Mar 16 21:50:40 <xteejx_> The wiki states Ubutnu arm is for v7+, but I have an arm11 (v6). Is there no way I can get it on there?
Mar 16 21:51:43 <GrueMaster> xteejx_: Sadly, no.  But Debian is very similar and will support your hardware.
Mar 16 21:51:58 <xteejx_> GrueMaster, Damn :(
Mar 16 21:52:20 <xteejx_> I'll have a google around for debian related stuff then, thanks anyway for the pointer :)
Mar 16 21:52:45 <GrueMaster> Good luck.
Mar 16 21:53:00 <xteejx_> lol thank you :)
Mar 16 22:53:42 <Riddell> on what mailing list can I ask arm issues?
Mar 16 22:54:30 <pbuckley> heh
Mar 16 22:54:47 <pbuckley> i wonder how many raspberry pi people we will see in the upcoming weeks asking why ubuntu doesnt boot
Mar 16 22:55:07 <lilstevie> pbuckley, heaps no doubt :p
Mar 16 22:56:15 <pbuckley> btw anyone know of a good eq (per frequency adjustments)?
Mar 16 22:56:25 <pbuckley> thats system wide
Mar 16 22:56:41 <pbuckley> alsamixer seems to have some built in filters
Mar 16 22:56:46 <pbuckley> but couldnt figure out how to change em
Mar 16 22:58:30 <GrueMaster> Riddell: What arm issues?  What platform?  There are quite a few choices.
Mar 16 22:58:51 <Riddell> GrueMaster: the one where my pandaboard doesn't boot with a precise install
Mar 16 23:00:19 <pbuckley> using the right image?
Mar 16 23:02:44 <GrueMaster> Riddell: First, I would recommend going through the troubleshooting section at http://pandaboard.org/content/resources/troubleshooting to make sure your system works and your environment is set up correctly.
Mar 16 23:03:30 <GrueMaster> If everything goes well there, we can work to figure out why Ubuntu isn't working on your pandaboard.
Mar 16 23:03:41 <Riddell> it works fine
Mar 16 23:03:45 <Riddell> it does not work with precise
Mar 16 23:04:21 <GrueMaster> What exactly doesn't work with Precise?  (note that I frequently test the daily precise images).
Mar 16 23:05:01 <Riddell> the same thing as last time we looked at it http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/precice-arm-boot.txt
Mar 16 23:05:26 <pbuckley> im running two pandaboards with precise
Mar 16 23:05:40 <pbuckley> that looks like a bad sd card at first glance
Mar 16 23:05:51 <Riddell> works fine with oneiric
Mar 16 23:06:01 <pbuckley> well something is wrong with your setup
Mar 16 23:06:02 <pbuckley> i assure you
Mar 16 23:06:13 <pbuckley> sorry
Mar 16 23:06:14 <pbuckley> bad day
Mar 16 23:06:17 <pbuckley> ill be back later
Mar 16 23:06:52 <GrueMaster> Which image is this?
Mar 16 23:07:39 <GrueMaster> I'm not seeing this on today's daily image.
Mar 16 23:08:09 <Riddell> armhf omap4 daily build from today for ubuntu-desktop, armhf omap4 daily build for when we last tested it, armel precise image from alpha 1
Mar 16 23:08:28 <Riddell> I know you're not.  you weren't when we tested it the other day either.
Mar 16 23:09:10 <GrueMaster> Hmm.  It is possible you have a defective board, but I can't verify that.
Mar 16 23:09:52 <Riddell> got a copy of the validation image?
Mar 16 23:09:53 <GrueMaster> This is on first boot?
Mar 16 23:10:17 <Riddell> yes, also on boot after upgrade from oneiric
Mar 16 23:10:22 <GrueMaster> Not on me.  It is at http://pandaboard.org/content/resources/troubleshooting
Mar 16 23:10:28 <Riddell> that link doesn't work
Mar 16 23:11:04 <GrueMaster> Try http://pandaboard.org.  Click on RESOURCES.
Mar 16 23:11:56 <GrueMaster> Or is it the gforge.ti link that is broken?
Mar 16 23:12:36 <Riddell> yes
Mar 16 23:16:29 <GrueMaster> Let's try in #pandaboard.
Mar 16 23:22:28 <GrueMaster> Riddell: Well, that would explain the broken link.
Mar 16 23:22:38 <Riddell> mm hmm
Mar 16 23:23:23 <GrueMaster> So, do you have a more recent copy of the daily builds, or at least Beta 1?
Mar 16 23:30:35 <GrueMaster> Also, can you download and try the ubuntu-server daily as well?  I doubt it will change anything, but it would be useful to test.
Mar 16 23:40:46 * Riddell snoozes
Mar 17 02:18:45 <danboid> How do I install http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/main/l/linux-meta-ti-omap4/linux-image-omap4_3.2.0.1408.8_armel.deb ?
Mar 17 02:19:11 <danboid> The debs there are only a few k in size so is there a ppa I'm missing?
Mar 17 02:19:29 <infinity> danboid: No.
Mar 17 02:19:36 <infinity> danboid: It depends on the real kernel image.
Mar 17 02:19:41 <GrueMaster> You want linux-ti-omap4.
Mar 17 02:19:52 <infinity> danboid: No PPAs required, just apt-get install linux-image-omap4.
Mar 17 02:21:29 <danboid> Nope - if I run that command it will install linux-image-3.0.0-1207-omap4
Mar 17 02:21:41 <danboid> which doesn't have ALSA seq
Mar 17 02:21:49 <infinity> danboid: Because you're running oneiric.
Mar 17 02:21:58 <GrueMaster> http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/main/l/linux-ti-omap4/linux-image-3.2.0-1409-omap4_3.2.0-1409.12_armhf.deb
Mar 17 02:22:00 <infinity> danboid: 3.2.x is the precise kernel.
Mar 17 02:22:21 <GrueMaster> infinity: He wants the precise kernel on Oneiric.
Mar 17 02:22:25 <GrueMaster> http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/main/l/linux-ti-omap4/linux-image-3.2.0-1409-omap4_3.2.0-1409.12_armel.deb actually.
Mar 17 02:22:47 <infinity> Sure, but if you want the precise kernel on oneiric, you shouldn't just manually install the debs, you should add precise sources and do some creative pinning.
Mar 17 02:22:51 <infinity> Cause otherwise, you won't get upgrades.
Mar 17 02:23:55 <GrueMaster> Upgrades are irrelevant when you are testing a specific feature of the kernel (Alsa Sequencers in this case if I'm not mistaken).
Mar 17 02:24:44 <danboid> GrueMaster, Yep
Mar 17 02:25:55 <danboid> I'll happily install precise the minute I know pvr is working but its not an option just yet
Mar 17 02:26:32 <GrueMaster> Not sure that pvr will work with the kernel link I pointed to you either.
Mar 17 02:26:56 <infinity> Oh, if you want PVR working, you need to install the 3.1 kernel from the tiomap-dev PPA.
Mar 17 02:27:07 <infinity> It's the one that has the bits that go with their binary driver.
Mar 17 02:29:35 <danboid> GrueMaster, Thanks for the link - I'm going to give that a go
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