**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 23 02:59:58 2012 Apr 23 08:35:31 is preinstalled image still the official way of installing ubuntu on panda? Apr 23 08:36:36 hrw: yes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAP pick server or desktop Apr 23 08:37:07 hrw: certainly, or the netboot images. Apr 23 08:39:26 thanks Apr 23 09:57:51 janimo: *pokity poke* Apr 23 09:58:10 * ogra_ grumbles about compiz Apr 23 09:58:58 alf_, seems they added another quilt change to compiz, there should soon be a new commit so we have to redo everything again Apr 23 09:59:28 ogra_: What a great way to start the week ;) Apr 23 09:59:34 yeah Apr 23 09:59:58 especially isnt i fought over the weekend to even get our friday update reviewed and approved Apr 23 10:00:19 * ogra_ wont find the time to do any image testing that way :( Apr 23 10:00:34 s/isnt/since/ Apr 23 10:00:40 * ogra_ glares at his fingers Apr 23 11:23:10 ogra_: Do you know when they are going to commit the compiz changes? I don't see anything new yet (I am using debcheckout compiz). Apr 23 11:23:27 no, waiting for sil2001 Apr 23 11:23:38 i guess he will ping me once he is done Apr 23 11:23:49 (at least i hope he will) Apr 23 11:25:12 ogra_: ok Apr 23 11:34:08 Does is exist any one-liner command for installing all unmet build depends for a package? Apr 23 11:34:28 apt-get build-dep should do. Apr 23 11:35:23 Thats for a source from the apt repo, right? Apr 23 11:35:58 of course, it won't work automagically for any src tarball you download from $NIRVANA Apr 23 11:36:40 expect IMHO if the tarball is properly debianzied, there might be some trick to do. Apr 23 11:37:21 It's a unpacked debian source ready to build. I can always create my little script for it then Apr 23 11:39:59 i guess in the debhelper suite or similar i have seen something like that then. but really not sure. Apr 23 11:40:54 I remeber debian has a package with a lot of different tools and script for package development Apr 23 11:40:59 * sveinse can't remember its name Apr 23 11:41:10 ogra_: hi. about the blaze board we discussed last time, did you ship it? Apr 23 11:41:24 urgh, thanks for reminding, no i didnt yet Apr 23 11:41:32 np Apr 23 11:41:42 * ogra_ will make sure to get that dont this week Apr 23 11:41:47 really sorry Apr 23 11:41:54 if you ship it, i would prefer you ship it to Andy directly (or perhaps someone else at linaro) Apr 23 11:41:54 too many compiz updates :P Apr 23 11:42:08 yeah, i think thats what we agreed on Apr 23 11:42:11 so when you are ready to ship, ask me who to send it to ;-) Apr 23 12:31:44 What is multi-arch specifically? Apr 23 12:34:06 sveinse: http://wookware.org/talks/ there have a look at those starting with multiarch Apr 23 12:50:59 LetoThe2nd: Thanks. Will multiarch be implemented in precise for armel/hf ? Apr 23 12:52:22 sveinse: should be, IMHO Apr 23 13:03:18 hi guys i'm getting this error any clue? Apr 23 13:03:19 pycurl.error: (60, 'server certificate verification failed. CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt CRLfile: none') Apr 23 13:07:55 i got this error while doing : add-apt-repository ppa:tiomap-dev/omap-trunk Apr 23 13:44:42 Hello - I just bumped to Ubuntu Core, a minimal version of Ubuntu Apr 23 13:45:27 Is there a possibility that Ubuntu Core would be built for ARMv6 as well as ARMv7? Only the minimal install, minimal amount of packages? Apr 23 13:46:07 Walther: from an official point of view, the answer is certainly "no, unless someone pays for it" Apr 23 13:47:06 hehe. How many packages are there in ubuntu-core? Approximately Apr 23 13:47:30 as in, would it be possible to make it happen as a community project or completely hopeless Apr 23 13:48:10 Walther: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/848154 Apr 23 13:48:11 Launchpad bug 848154 in ubuntu "ARM version not supporting V6 RaspPi" [Undecided,Invalid] Apr 23 13:48:17 Walther: it might be possible to shape the future.. next UDS happens in two weeks from nw Apr 23 13:48:22 now Apr 23 13:48:55 Walther: well its open source, the community can do whatever the community wants :) Apr 23 13:48:55 it might be possible to lower the optimization grade for armel to support the RaspPi for the next 12.10 release Apr 23 13:49:10 since the armel port are now pushed into community hands Apr 23 13:49:41 Walther: and i really suggest to look the launchpad thread, it's very interesting. Apr 23 13:49:50 LetoThe2nd: Sure, I was just wondering how big effort would it require (certainly much, much less than the full-fletched ubuntu install) Apr 23 13:50:24 Walther: and still way more than just using debian. Apr 23 13:50:30 Walther: the hardest part are probably providing infrastructure unless canonical nicely keeps the current infrastructure Apr 23 13:50:52 Walther: someone have to keep the builders up and running Apr 23 13:53:01 i'm using ubuntu-core on pandaboard, even after doing add-apt-repository ppa:tiomap-dev/omap-trunk , and apt-get update , when i do apt-get install ubuntu-omap4-extras , i get unable to locate package Apr 23 13:54:32 ...I just got an idea. The first comment on the launchpad page is basically "okay, if we get the resources" Apr 23 13:54:49 How about a nice Kickstarter project from Canonical ARM team? Apr 23 13:55:36 Given enough pledges, it could be done - and there might be enough people already in the RasPi community alone to provide the necessary funding Apr 23 13:56:42 Also, by linking the Kickstarter project to a couple of big tech blogs (e.g. Engadget) would provide additional coverage Apr 23 13:57:06 ...and if the goal is not reached, nobody will be charged anything Apr 23 13:59:26 Walther: the quickest way to create an armv6 build would be to help the linaro cross compile effort Apr 23 13:59:57 Walther: like setup a armv6 optimized toolchain and try cross compile all the packages you need Apr 23 14:01:12 Personally, I think a nice Kickstarter project could provide the necessary funds quickly and easily (not to mention, for free) Apr 23 14:01:41 Walther: all in all the tasks that ubuntu will do gets decided at the summit next monday in two weeks Apr 23 14:02:14 * LetoThe2nd does not believe in kickstarter as the wonder hammer that solves all problems. and especially not when it comes to raspi. Apr 23 14:02:29 true. I wonder if anyone here in the channel who happens to work at Canonical could suggest the idea forward Apr 23 14:02:37 before the summit Apr 23 14:02:51 certainly some people have listened. Apr 23 14:02:55 LetoThe2nd: perhaps not a wonder hammer, but it could make the significant difference Apr 23 14:03:17 between not making the official build / support and making an official version Apr 23 14:03:41 ...oh, and to clarify, I'm talking about (at least) the Core version Apr 23 14:03:43 Walther, there is always option f, (fork).. figure you need about 10 pi's backed by harddrives, you can take the src pks of debian/ubuntu and build what you want. ;) Apr 23 14:03:58 Walther: well, it all depends. i personally don't see no use in it. but thats my personal opinion. Apr 23 14:04:04 I do understand that porting / making support for the complete Ubuntu build would be a big thing Apr 23 14:04:48 it would be easier to baseline with debian and use armv4t+ Apr 23 14:04:54 LetoThe2nd: Well, if we are talking about *personal* opinions, IMHO Canonical could take advantage of the RasPi and buy a couple thousand and sell as educational bundles Apr 23 14:05:04 given there would be support Apr 23 14:05:09 then we support all the armv5 devices with 512mb of ram Apr 23 14:05:14 that can run a desktop Apr 23 14:05:17 Walther, if you want the packages to live in the ubuntu infrastructure you have to port the whole archive Apr 23 14:05:35 i don't think the making is *that* big a deal (we've had armv5 and armv6 ubuntus already), but its more like - why care about obsolete, horribly underpowered hardware that is just driven by hype, but not technical reason. Apr 23 14:05:42 if you do your own port somewhere else you indeed can do a partial port Apr 23 14:05:49 ogra_: perhaps, but even having the Ubuntu Core would be a step forward, right Apr 23 14:05:54 no Apr 23 14:06:09 LetoThe2nd: you forget the price and educational market Apr 23 14:06:12 ubuntu-core is created from the archive ... you woul dneed the full port Apr 23 14:07:03 as i said above, you could provide your own archive somewhere with your own build infrastructure (as rcn-ee suggested above) and only build the ubuntu-core packageset indeed Apr 23 14:07:31 LetoThe2nd: if you think about it, raspi is 35usd and hs a desktop and office suite for free - compare to the cheapest possible (say 100usd laptop project) + microsoft licenses (Windows, Office, etc) that are used at the moment Apr 23 14:07:32 after all though i would suggest debian Apr 23 14:07:42 Walther: honestly, to me that is mostly buzzwording. i don't mean to flame here, but giving some kid a thing that isn't able to do much more than just booting into a desktop and that is fully loaded then (but hey, it runs ubuntu!!!) is of little use. better give them arduinos. they have proven worthwhile, and they are even cheaper. Apr 23 14:07:49 you wont run a usable desktop on the RPi Apr 23 14:07:54 it isnt capable Apr 23 14:08:15 ogra_: full ack. i've seen desktops on marvell. forget ever think of really using them. Apr 23 14:08:31 right Apr 23 14:08:42 ogra_: define capable - there are *many* schools that don't have any computers Apr 23 14:08:47 at all Apr 23 14:08:51 trying to run a recent browser will make you hit OOM very fast Apr 23 14:09:27 they're worthwhile using for some tasks. but certainly not for desktop replacement of any kind (and thats why is implied here), not even by the lowest of standards. Apr 23 14:09:48 i bought a raspi so the project survives the startup-phase. the fact, that it is a v6 is surely a showstopper Apr 23 14:09:56 current SW simply isnt designed for 256M systems ... you could indeed run something like dillo or w3m ... but i doubt thats what people would call a "desktop" Apr 23 14:10:01 LetoThe2nd: replacement? Perhaps no. But replacing not having a computer does make a difference Apr 23 14:10:25 i brought a rasppi to twrite tutorials on how to program opengl es Apr 23 14:10:38 that i can do without a desktop Apr 23 14:10:54 my stance are that debian are good enough Apr 23 14:10:59 Walther: well, a few lines above you suggested it as a drop-in replacement for a windows computer including office. and it will just not be that. it will run a cli terminal and emacs fine. but that is probably not what people demand of it. Apr 23 14:11:40 LetoThe2nd: No, I wasn't implying a replacement for existing computers with office wtc, I was trying to say that more people would afford that kind of setup Apr 23 14:11:51 also dont forget to run a RPi as desktop you will need disks, keyboards, mice and a monitor Apr 23 14:12:18 that somewhat wont keep you at the super cheapo level Apr 23 14:12:24 Walther: as i said, its all opinions. for me, its buzzwording and wasted effort, until the first raspis are actually brought to real use. Apr 23 14:12:52 the RPi is an awesome machine as a PVR or media box Apr 23 14:12:57 as well as a NAS Apr 23 14:13:13 but definitely not designed for desktop use Apr 23 14:13:29 ogra_: but it has 1080p output!!!one!!eleven!! Apr 23 14:13:34 And, it is a perfect cheap computer for schools in developing countries that cannot afford more expensive setups Apr 23 14:13:45 (it has a great en/decoding engine for media ... but no RAm and no CPU power) Apr 23 14:14:05 LetoThe2nd: I never used that as an argument, just sayin' Apr 23 14:14:14 Walther, and these schools have monitors, mice and keyboards already ? Apr 23 14:14:15 better they would have left out that stupid media chip and invested in ram and cpu power. then it could do things. but of course, it wouldn't be so hypeable. Apr 23 14:14:41 16:07 < Walther> LetoThe2nd: if you think about it, raspi is 35usd and hs a desktop and office suite for free Apr 23 14:14:49 (just citing) Apr 23 14:15:15 and i said that it will not have desktop and office. not in any usable fashion. Apr 23 14:15:23 ogra_: CRT monitors are not only free but paid for if someone takes them, as the process of properly recycling them is expensive Apr 23 14:15:26 donating the $25 or whatever your RPi costs nowadays to a project that sends used HW to third world countries is surely a better investment Apr 23 14:15:53 ogra_: ack again. Apr 23 14:16:00 CRt monitors are heavy ... you need to ship them to that country Apr 23 14:16:18 the shipment will be more costly than the CRT is worth Apr 23 14:16:27 ogra_: do you happen to know where they are recycled at the moment (at least most of them)? In developing countries... Apr 23 14:16:37 (unless you do it in masses in a project like linux4africa for example) Apr 23 14:16:41 * LetoThe2nd is out again. point has been made clear. Apr 23 14:17:03 Anyway, I think we are getting to a sidetrack of opinions vs opinions Apr 23 14:17:37 well, to come back to the topic, ubuntu doesnt roll the archive after an image seed but rolls images from a complete archive Apr 23 14:17:50 sticking to the original thing - what would it require and what would be the easiest way of getting some extent of Ubuntu Apr 23 14:17:52 so what you asked for wont be possible in the current infrastructure Apr 23 14:18:30 either do your own infrastructure and roll your own port or convince canonical to invest into an armv4/v5/v6 port Apr 23 14:19:06 the latter would indeed mean a full archive port Apr 23 14:19:21 and that will take you 6 months with a team of fulltime people Apr 23 14:20:59 (plus HW ressources, the current ubuntu arm build machines are fully saturated with what we have already) Apr 23 14:21:02 Oh, and another thing - iirc, Canonical has the Ubuntu TV project Apr 23 14:21:12 it does Apr 23 14:21:38 Raspi would be a good possibility for that - XBMC has been proven to work smoothly on RasPi Apr 23 14:21:58 unity-2d wont run in 256M Apr 23 14:22:14 Walther, playing video and using the desktop are two different things, when you have a hardware video decoder.. Apr 23 14:23:40 as i said before, the RPi will make an awesome PVR/DVR or media playback machine Apr 23 14:24:00 but you wont run a desktop on it in any usable way Apr 23 14:24:19 invest a few bucks more and buy a cubox or so if you want a desktop ;) Apr 23 14:24:25 and of course, is the video stack open? ;) if not, is anyone able to support it.. Apr 23 14:24:38 Is Ubuntu TV intended to be a *full* desktop? Apr 23 14:25:01 ubuntu tv is an extension to unity-2d Apr 23 14:25:01 I though it was going to be just that, a PCR/DVR with Ubuntu features Apr 23 14:25:08 PVR* Apr 23 14:25:45 its just an additional lens that handles media and epg data Apr 23 14:26:46 so an official Ubuntu TV device would indeed run a full Ubuntu desktop (with unity-2d, that is)... Apr 23 14:27:19 an official ubuntu-tv device would be a TV Apr 23 14:27:30 well, that's quite a lot of requirements imho for what is essentially a PVR/DVR Apr 23 14:27:43 not less than google-tv Apr 23 14:28:06 and not less then your avg, mythtv system. ;) Apr 23 14:28:11 yeah Apr 23 14:31:10 Anyway, so what was the linoros thing you mentioned briefly in the beginning? Apr 23 14:31:19 some kind of cross-compiled build someone is doing Apr 23 14:31:30 see #linaro Apr 23 14:32:57 thanks, this seems to be what I'm after Apr 23 14:35:26 Walther, a lot of this is just talk... There's enough of you guys that want, please pull together, and follow the gensi example.. Before the notion of ubuntu/debian armhf, they did their own 'armhf' port of debian, and then showed what was possible with it.. They then worked with the community, then after some time, it's now in debian/ubuntu as an port.. Apr 23 14:35:54 yep, I'm not going to give up Apr 23 14:36:47 and I'm not interested in flamewars or similar, opinions are opinions - even good, supported opinions are just opinions that can be opposed with other good, supported opinions Apr 23 14:37:20 and yes, I believe there are enough people in the Raspi community that at least some kind of a build will be made at some point Apr 23 14:37:21 well samsung smart tvs run an openembed of sorts, mine has a fairly powerful CPU Apr 23 14:38:06 Walther, figure you'd need 5-10 pi's.. just port the intial 'debootsrap' requirements, and get it on: http://www.debian-ports.org/ Apr 23 14:39:46 rcn-ee: I think cross-compiling would make more sense - iirc it took about 3h to compile the quake III port :P Apr 23 14:40:13 Walther, you cant easily cross build something with a big dependency chain Apr 23 14:40:32 Walther, except that's against the debian/ubuntu where everything is built native.. ;) Apr 23 14:40:44 building natively makes more sense in that context even if it takes a bit more time Apr 23 14:41:02 if you only build a single app, cross is surely a good thing Apr 23 14:41:06 if you want cross-compiled distro, look at angstrom... Apr 23 14:41:12 but try to cross build a desktop :) Apr 23 14:41:32 ogra_: possible, but difficult indeed. Apr 23 14:41:32 yeah, for cross use a distro thats designed for cross from the ground up Apr 23 14:41:49 like openembedded/angstrom etc Apr 23 14:42:15 I build my kernels cross compiled because it saves a few hours, but I would hate to build more than that Apr 23 14:42:18 .oO( which remonds me, i need to add the embedded spec to the UDS tracker ) Apr 23 14:42:22 *reminds Apr 23 14:42:39 lilstevie, hours ? Apr 23 14:42:42 wow Apr 23 14:43:04 * ogra_ builds the ac100 kernel package in about 1.5h natively Apr 23 14:43:28 admittedly on a fast external USB disk, not on the emmc Apr 23 14:44:49 ogra_: the asus kernel on the tf101 and tf201 have some horrible bottleneck somewhere Apr 23 14:45:02 trimslice is slghtly faster Apr 23 14:45:31 get an ac100 ;) Apr 23 14:45:36 it flies :) Apr 23 14:45:39 (hehe, compile times are silly... I remember compiling a linux 3 kernel in 45s) Apr 23 14:45:44 (if you throw it at least :P ) Apr 23 14:46:32 heh well builds take 20minutes on my core duo Apr 23 14:46:47 my panda did one in 9mins last night... oh the wonders of ccache. ;) Apr 23 14:47:04 thats cheating !!! Apr 23 14:47:32 and the incremental build with a single non-important line change helped. ;) Apr 23 14:47:56 and I haven't tried a compile since the migration to 3.1 on the tf201 Apr 23 14:48:52 the new kernel is faster Apr 23 14:58:02 Yeah, well, I was abusing a server I'm on to achieve the sub-minute compile time Apr 23 14:58:15 24 cores on a server with 144GB ram Apr 23 15:03:39 you don't need anything nearly that expensive to build kernels in under a minute. Apr 23 15:05:23 Nope.. Apr 23 15:05:39 Although did you notice that the current kernel broke distcc? Apr 23 15:05:50 I can't get away with a multi-machine compile at the moment Apr 23 15:08:02 Quantal Quetzal ! Apr 23 15:09:56 ogra_: PP... ;) Apr 23 15:24:55 GrueMaster: Regarding your 'Community support request' to help testing beagle boards Apr 23 15:25:06 is this the daily url http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily-preinstalled/current/ ? Apr 23 15:25:20 cehh, yep Apr 23 15:25:26 cehh: Yes. Apr 23 15:25:53 and http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/214/builds for tracking your results Apr 23 15:26:19 OK, thanks. Apr 23 15:26:54 GrueMaster: when you have time, please reply to my question on BeagleBoard Apr 23 15:27:35 I basically need to know if it is possible to add test tools (iperf, lmbench, etc. ) to the filesystem image Apr 23 15:28:29 cehh: Yes, after booting. You should be able to run "apt-get install" to install most of the ~15,000 packages in the Ubuntu pool. Apr 23 15:28:48 Hi what happened to http://people.canonical.com/~tobin/natty/beagleXM-natty.tgz Apr 23 15:28:54 Whether or not they actually work is another question. Apr 23 15:29:45 beagleboarduser: It went away when I did. Sorry. Switch to Oneiric (11.10) or Precise (12.04 - now in final release testing). Apr 23 15:30:14 is the 12.04 very buggy? Apr 23 15:30:22 the opposite :) Apr 23 15:30:26 very good Apr 23 15:30:31 will try 12.04 Apr 23 15:30:34 beagleboarduser: I hope not. Release is Thursday. Apr 23 15:30:43 its more like a street car. Apr 23 15:30:46 will try it anyways Apr 23 15:36:04 cehh: Could you send me a link to the beagleboard topic? Otherwise I will have to wait for the daily summary. Apr 23 15:36:42 GrueMaster: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/3NFPUue_oG4 Apr 23 15:37:00 thx Apr 23 15:37:21 btw, is the kernel update documented at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Server/Install?action=show&redirect=ARM%2FOMAPHeadlessInstall still required w/ latest server image? Apr 23 15:46:44 cehh: That was a one-image only update due to new hardware that came out at release time. Support was added to the next Ubuntu release as native. Apr 23 15:46:57 (and the links are probably broken now). Apr 23 15:49:30 got it. One less step to do :) Apr 23 15:51:46 I will need to create an apt package for ltp-ddt. We currently use OE to build it. The other test tools that we use seem to be already available with apt Apr 23 15:54:33 ...just wondering, is Ubuntu ARM compatible with Marvell 88AP510 SoC Apr 23 15:55:48 Walther: see the topic Apr 23 15:58:22 ...could you clarify which part of it answers to my question? Apr 23 15:59:24 Walther: is 88AP510 armv7 or not? Apr 23 16:01:28 Marvell Armada 510 (88AP510) SoC with an ARM v6/v7-compliant superscalar processor core Apr 23 16:01:36 so not really sure Apr 23 16:01:43 so in v7 mode it will :) Apr 23 16:02:04 'kay, thanks Apr 23 16:02:33 cubox comes with armada 500, thats definitely working Apr 23 16:02:36 wasn't that marvell thing some homebrew v6/v7 schimera? Apr 23 16:02:41 yep Apr 23 16:02:49 marvell does such things Apr 23 16:03:15 *notes* if i ever want to brew schimeras, apply at marvell. Apr 23 16:03:29 hehe Apr 23 16:05:23 * ogra_ thinks schimeras are a good tradeoff if you also get GigE, PCIE and proper SATA by default on their boards :) Apr 23 16:06:26 did i say anothing bad? Apr 23 16:06:31 nah Apr 23 16:27:48 ogra_: ping... Apr 23 16:28:02 djszapi, yes ? Apr 23 16:28:11 What development package installs linux/rtc.h on my ubuntu ? It is installed by linux-api-headers on my Archlinux box. Apr 23 16:28:24 use dpkg -S Apr 23 16:28:40 (with the full path) Apr 23 16:29:08 which package to install: Apr 23 16:29:10 1) linux-headers-3.0.0-1208-omap4 Apr 23 16:29:18 2) linux-headers-3.1.1-26-linaro-lt-omap Apr 23 16:29:29 the one matching your used kernel Apr 23 16:29:33 djszapi: linux-libc-dev Apr 23 16:29:54 ogra_: the linaro one, thanks. Apr 23 16:29:57 ubuntu@panda3:~$ dpkg -S /usr/include/linux/rtc.h Apr 23 16:29:57 linux-libc-dev: /usr/include/linux/rtc.h Apr 23 16:30:17 weird, the linary header is already installed, but I still have zero linux/rtc.h :/ Apr 23 16:30:33 well, what GrueMaster said Apr 23 16:46:54 thanks ogra_ and GrueMaster Apr 23 16:55:17 hi, i've been trying to cross compile a simple program using arm-linux-gnueabi-* tools on ubuntu 11.10 . but despite of -march=armv6 switch its is always producing armv7 executable. Apr 23 16:57:07 how can i make it produce armv6 code ? Apr 23 16:59:58 ssilly: The ubuntu build tools are hardwired to only produce armv7. You would need to rebootstrap gcc and the other low level tools and libraries to do this. You might want to consider Debian for this type of work. Apr 23 17:00:58 well, theoretically you should be able to override the default target arch Apr 23 17:01:13 but you probably need to set more than just -march Apr 23 17:01:31 i guess infinity might know more as a toolchain expert Apr 23 17:03:05 thanks, so i should either compile the toolchain , or go with debian and hope that it works .. Apr 23 17:03:35 debian armhf gcc uses the same defaults Apr 23 17:07:13 oh. so basically i cannot skip the gcc compilation :( Apr 23 17:07:28 armel debian uses v4t Apr 23 17:10:46 thanks. i'll give debian a try Apr 23 17:11:26 ogra_: What is the easiest way to upgrade ac100? Can I dd the bootimg to a partition and let it take over on next reboot? Apr 23 17:11:45 thats what i do usually Apr 23 17:12:03 though i would suggest to also dd the sosboot image to the recovery partiton Apr 23 17:12:14 Ok. What is the partition for dd? Apr 23 17:12:21 then, even if you screw up, you can enter an initrd in the recovery partition Apr 23 17:12:27 And where is the sosimage? Apr 23 17:12:30 check with abootimg -i Apr 23 17:13:50 GrueMaster, http://ac100.grandou.net/sosboot Apr 23 17:24:41 Ok, installing. cool. Apr 23 17:53:54 ogra_: Did the nVidia driver for AC100 armhf make it into the pool? Apr 23 17:54:05 nope Apr 23 17:54:22 it didnt make it our of nvidia yet :) Apr 23 17:54:26 *out Apr 23 17:54:43 ah. Apr 23 17:55:27 Hmm. Hash sum mismatch on ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports precise main sources. Apr 23 18:11:12 It would be nice to have hdmi out this weekend. I am heading to LinuxFestNW (http://linuxfestnw.org). Apr 23 18:11:31 well, then you would have to use armel Apr 23 18:12:39 But I want it all! :P Apr 23 18:13:09 heh, call nvidia then :) Apr 23 19:32:12 GrueMaster requested testers for the beagle board xm. Should i be using the daily images or something more specific? Apr 23 19:32:26 daily is fine Apr 23 19:32:52 and log results at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/214/builds Apr 23 19:32:54 looking at the qa tracker it looks as if no one has really updated the xm Apr 23 19:33:05 i will update my findings tonight Apr 23 19:33:48 or omap at all Apr 23 19:34:27 awesome, thanks ! Apr 23 19:37:30 ogra_: do i need a launchpad account to post? Apr 23 19:37:43 yep, i think so Apr 23 21:30:37 infinity, peekity peek Apr 23 23:25:39 booting the daily image on a beagleboard xm, there is no partition option available Apr 23 23:26:20 is this expected or is there a way to load gparted? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Apr 24 02:59:58 2012