**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Apr 24 02:59:58 2012 Apr 24 08:00:26 janimo: Do you still have your Quickstart handy, and can I beg you to be my community tester? Apr 24 08:24:17 infinity, my quickstart is still around, albeit unused. I can test stuff on it sure Apr 24 08:43:59 janimo: That would be awesome. We just need solid smoketesting on the mx5 images, so I can release them. Apr 24 08:44:12 infinity, where they at? Apr 24 08:44:18 and images? do we not only have one? Apr 24 08:44:34 regular cdimage as usual right? Apr 24 08:44:37 janimo: Just the one desktop image, yeah. Apr 24 08:44:42 ok. Apr 24 08:44:47 janimo: cdimage/daily-preinstalled/current Apr 24 08:44:57 * janimo looks for mx5 power cords Apr 24 08:45:50 I like the lack of any trace of *armel* on that page Apr 24 08:47:36 janimo: That's by design. ;) Apr 24 08:47:57 indeed, glad we dropped them Apr 24 09:50:33 infinity, I no longer remember if desktop images had less output on video than on serial. The mx5 image stopped outputting to VGA after mounting root - so I stopped it after a minute , whereas booting with serial attached it prints out resize info Apr 24 09:50:59 I think desktop images should have some sort of progress indication or it looks not much different from bad SD or other boot problems Apr 24 09:51:26 especially since the last lines are the infamous 'couldnt' mount because of unsupported optional features (240)' Apr 24 09:51:53 which may in fact mean I have some issue with this card, but I have seen the error before and it seemed harmless Apr 24 09:52:00 janimo: It's meant to output via plymouth. It does on omap*... Apr 24 09:52:41 Not progress, mind you, but it does say "resizing, please wait". Apr 24 09:53:21 it says so on serial, with VGA on it just stays in text mode (after it switches the fonts to the thinner looking ones) Apr 24 09:53:28 no plymouth/splash in sight Apr 24 09:54:01 Fun. I haven't booted an mx5 image in eons. :/ Apr 24 09:54:08 me neither Apr 24 09:54:27 Not that I care if the splash works. Apr 24 09:54:33 Just that it boots/installs. Apr 24 09:54:35 I think our resize tricks buy much less than they are worth Apr 24 09:54:39 make testing harder and more confusing Apr 24 09:54:44 So, I'm still cool with blaming your card. Apr 24 09:54:51 developers can use a straight to sd, bootbale image Apr 24 09:55:07 bootable. Apr 24 09:55:16 as the linaro ones are Apr 24 09:55:16 Release is in two days, not changing that. :P Apr 24 09:55:25 I know :) Apr 24 09:55:26 just saying Apr 24 09:55:48 we spend too much time (or well, spent) for a corner case which has few advantages imo Apr 24 09:56:15 especialy since these images are clearly not for human beings, to warrant the extra handholding Apr 24 10:51:34 infinity, it kind of boots up but it is very slow. The install does not seem to finish (ubi disappears and I restarted manually after ~10 min) Apr 24 10:51:59 if it were a movie I'd give ubuntu on mx53 '1 star' Apr 24 10:52:36 it has way less users than the omaps and is less mature, that may explain its status Apr 24 10:52:42 still better than only having b-class celebrities in it Apr 24 10:52:47 :) Apr 24 10:53:00 :) Apr 24 10:57:27 ogra_: don't you like b-movies? Apr 24 10:57:37 i love b movies Apr 24 10:57:58 but having one star in them makes them commercially more popular :) Apr 24 10:59:01 FTW http://goo.gl/sAVTO (might be NSFW depending on your office) Apr 24 10:59:33 lol, i recently noticed that in my EPG Apr 24 11:00:23 since everyting is so slow on this mx53 it should at least be funny. I wish it said Das home as a tooltip instead of Dash home Apr 24 11:01:06 ogra_: i certainly recommand to watch it. Apr 24 11:01:36 heh, will do if my GF doesnt run away then :) Apr 24 11:01:49 janimo, haha Apr 24 11:02:30 ogra_: good luck with that Apr 24 11:02:36 janimo: locoboard i guess? Apr 24 11:02:45 the OOM killer should also print a short random joke in dmesg to make the best of the situation Apr 24 11:03:16 lol Apr 24 11:03:26 file a bug, thats a great suggestion :) Apr 24 11:03:55 then people without internet but who need the instant gratyfication of every distraction would just run fork-bombs and tail dmesg Apr 24 11:03:56 +1 Apr 24 11:04:32 this is what testing mx53 does to me :) Apr 24 11:04:37 idea: make a module to provide /sys/distractions/eliza Apr 24 11:05:00 a.k.a. kernel space psychoanalysis Apr 24 11:05:28 'Are you echoing 1 to me?' Apr 24 11:05:56 harrharrharr Apr 24 11:07:48 * ogra_ now has a robert de-niro voice in his head ... Apr 24 11:08:56 i am not insane. 9 voices in my head are telling me all the time, and the tenth one is constantly humming the tune of tetris. Apr 24 11:21:37 ogra_, is there any new unity/compiz gles fix in the queue? Apr 24 11:21:49 it should work from -proposed Apr 24 11:21:50 besides what is in -proposed Apr 24 11:21:51 ok Apr 24 11:49:48 janimo: Erk. I wish I had my board here. I can't see how/why it would be any more broken than omap. :/ Apr 24 11:50:10 infinity, I know it was very slow when releasing 11.10 too Apr 24 11:50:21 although for unknown reasons, it could be hw/board specific Apr 24 11:50:34 I just know it used to boot for 10 minutes or so back then Apr 24 11:50:41 If you can actually get it to install, that's good enough for me. :/ Apr 24 11:50:48 If not, maybe we'll just drop the image from the release. Apr 24 11:51:06 infinity, yes, it installed and I could log in, just not very usable Apr 24 11:51:31 but that would probably be true for other similarly specced computers Apr 24 11:51:41 I know the beagle was not very snappy either Apr 24 11:51:57 with the mx53 factory image though everything was very smooth Apr 24 11:54:17 Alright. Well, if it boots and installs, that's enough for me. Apr 24 11:54:34 Maybe I'll find some time to see why it sucks next cycle. :/ Apr 24 11:54:42 janimo: Can you mark it tested in the tracker? Apr 24 11:54:50 janimo: And if we have to respin, can I beg you to retest? ;) Apr 24 11:55:23 infinity, I can retest, it is not too much work just boring :) Apr 24 11:55:29 ;) Apr 24 11:55:39 My hero. Apr 24 11:55:42 I need to see how I log into the tracker, I know I only used it when I made the account months ago Apr 24 11:55:48 I couldn't really disconnect my board without blowing up my whole network. Apr 24 11:56:03 ah yes, you're using it as archive mirror Apr 24 11:56:09 Among other things. :) Apr 24 11:56:50 Have any of you any experience with failing sd cards on an omap system? I'm seeing some strange things when upgrading several of our devices. apt-get dist-upgrade runs through, device is rebooted, but no file is changed in the fs! It's like the update never happened. dmesg reports nothing. No indication by kernel that the fs has become ro Apr 24 11:57:47 How does the kernel respond if writes to the sd fails? Apr 24 11:57:55 ogra_, does unity3d on omap/PVR behave usably? I see lots of artifacts on x86/pvr Apr 24 11:58:43 sveinse: If writes fail, that'll bubble up to userspace. Apr 24 11:58:56 yes, though so Apr 24 12:00:04 The weird thing is that I can edit a file successfully. cat it. reboot and the file is back to its previous contents. Apr 24 12:00:55 Does a ext4 journal recovery only recover file meta data or does it recover older versions of files as well? Apr 24 12:09:49 janimo, according to rsalveti and alf_ it should be fine Apr 24 12:10:14 did you rebuild it with the gles patch applied on x86 ? Apr 24 12:10:15 ogra_, ok thanks. It flickers a lot and has screen corruption here though Apr 24 12:10:27 ogra_, yes, in my ppa:jani/xd Apr 24 12:10:34 by default it will only be applied at build time on arm Apr 24 12:10:36 janimo: there are some glitches, but it's usable Apr 24 12:10:36 k Apr 24 12:10:43 and they are pvr related Apr 24 12:10:49 unfortunately Apr 24 12:11:02 but ti forwarded the issues to img already Apr 24 12:11:22 but guess that on x86 it'd go with intel Apr 24 12:11:38 rsalveti, ok good to know. Indeed, IMG need sto send Intel new binaries as well :) Apr 24 12:11:41 thanks Apr 24 13:18:08 ogra_: what still needs to happen to get the compiz packages from proposed to updates or main? Apr 24 13:18:37 rsalveti, well, seems the fglrx patch is supposed to be updated, i still wait for the commit :( Apr 24 13:18:49 oh, ok :-( Apr 24 13:18:54 ogra_: do we have a bug tracking that? Apr 24 13:19:07 beyond that, this patch needs to be tested on all non fglrx x86 HW Apr 24 13:19:21 i think that bug was already autoclosed Apr 24 13:19:28 oh, ok Apr 24 13:19:40 they found a better fix they want to commit Apr 24 13:20:51 got it Apr 24 14:44:47 smplman, did you get around to test the omap images on the XM ? Apr 24 14:45:04 yes but the checkbox test was running crazy slow Apr 24 14:45:16 but the install worked ? Apr 24 14:45:18 audio doesn't seem to work but everything else was good Apr 24 14:45:22 yay Apr 24 14:45:24 i didn't have time to file a bug Apr 24 14:45:38 is it building the kernel on install? Apr 24 14:45:40 audio is a long standing issue, needs UCM profiles and has a bug open already Apr 24 14:45:45 nope Apr 24 14:45:55 also there was no partition option Apr 24 14:45:56 smplman: The audio bug is 925094 Apr 24 14:46:06 i wanted to use my ssd for the root fs Apr 24 14:46:06 will you log the result on the tracker ? (else i can) Apr 24 14:46:20 ah, you cant with the preinstalled images Apr 24 14:46:21 i believe i did in the test cases Apr 24 14:46:33 i submitted but I'm not sure they went through Apr 24 14:47:00 ethernet worked right off the bat Apr 24 14:47:52 the desktop image runs pretty slow, but i think once i get the ssd going it should be much better Apr 24 14:48:43 well, i'll submit a success report then and add 925094 to the result Apr 24 14:49:06 ogra_: thanks Apr 24 14:49:16 thanks for testing !!!! Apr 24 14:49:28 tanks for the support ;-) Apr 24 14:49:32 thanks* Apr 24 14:49:35 :) Apr 24 14:53:20 GrueMaster, didnt you test ac100 ? would you mind logging it on the tracker ? Apr 24 14:54:14 I could, but it wasn't really a test. Didn't see any issues though. Apr 24 14:54:44 well, i can too if you dont want to, no prob :) Apr 24 14:55:25 (i'm not testing more than the install either here, given i actually use it daily anyway userspace is tested enough imho :) ) Apr 24 14:56:31 * ogra_ submits Apr 24 16:01:55 * ppisati -> brb Apr 24 18:37:29 GrueMaster: I followed your advice to use netboot image and preseeding, however the installer does not fetch the preseeding config file Apr 24 18:37:40 http://pastebin.com/xF7QgFvD Apr 24 18:41:01 cehh: I see a problem with your kernel bootargs. Try bootargs=vram=12M fixrtc quiet debian-installer/framebuffer=false console=ttyO2,115200n8 url=http://10.218.103.34/anonymous/tmp/carlos/preseed.cfg -- debconf/priority=critical locale=en_US console-setup/ask_detect=false console-setup/layoutcode=us live-installer/enable=false Apr 24 18:41:21 It will automatically choose dhcp if your preseed has that set. Apr 24 18:42:34 Here is my preseed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/944541/ Apr 24 18:43:05 GrueMaster: thx, i'm going to give it a try Apr 24 18:46:04 where can i get said net boot image? Apr 24 18:48:01 smplman: The netboot images for arm are at http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/precise/main/installer-armel/current/images/ Apr 24 18:48:15 gracias Apr 24 18:48:23 smplman: The netboot images for armhf are at http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/precise/main/installer-armhf/current/images/ Apr 24 18:48:37 ahh, love me some hf Apr 24 18:48:44 First link is for armel. Apr 24 18:49:47 GrueMaster: thanks Apr 24 18:50:04 Use the netboot images. The cdimages are just the raw kernel & initrd w/o uboot crc headers. Apr 24 18:50:17 thats what i tested last night on my beagle xm Apr 24 18:50:30 I've been wanting to try the net boot images Apr 24 18:51:43 Also, the *-fat-* images are essentially fat partitions. The *.gz images are compressed raw SD images. Apr 24 18:52:34 fb - Frame Buffer (Monitor required). serial - Serial Console (no monitor needed). Apr 24 18:52:45 gotcha, was about to ask Apr 24 18:52:50 They really need to have a readme file defining these. Apr 24 18:53:02 i would have fumbled my way through it Apr 24 18:53:17 :) Apr 24 18:53:35 anyone tried the net install on an omap yet? Apr 24 18:53:46 GrueMaster: those bootargs worked much better. The problem now is that network autoconfig failed Apr 24 18:53:48 http://pastebin.com/Q5Q37M77 Apr 24 18:54:06 i know I've tried rcn-ees net boot precise image and it worked nicely Apr 24 18:54:29 cehh: Do you have link lights on your XM? Apr 24 18:54:50 yes Apr 24 18:55:05 I had a problem with intermittent network connectivity issues. Apr 24 18:55:23 Hmm. If you have a link, it should be able to resolve via dhcp. Apr 24 18:55:50 after doing usb start at uboot prompt, there is nw connectivity Apr 24 18:56:12 I had to physically remove the network cable and wait a few seconds before plugging in for it to detect. Apr 24 18:56:26 I'm wondering if the problem is that bxm does not use regular eth iface but instead usb eth Apr 24 18:57:14 No, I had it working. Just had issues with the link detection. Apr 24 18:57:27 See bug 838200. Apr 24 18:57:28 Launchpad bug 838200 in u-boot-linaro "No network support on Beagle XM" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/838200 Apr 24 18:59:51 cehh: try sudo modprobe smsc95xx Apr 24 19:00:31 cehh: nevermind Apr 24 19:03:17 smplman: my problem is with the ubuntu installer (ie. running uInitrd) Apr 24 19:03:26 btw, I'm using bxm rev.C Apr 24 19:03:35 thats what i have Apr 24 19:03:44 drop to a shell and try the modprobe Apr 24 19:03:56 then run the install Apr 24 19:04:06 i had to this this once or twice Apr 24 19:04:15 ok, let me try that Apr 24 19:04:28 the lights on the ethernet will come on if it worked Apr 24 19:06:16 Cool. I added "usb start" to my boot.scr, and my netboot is working without any intervention. Apr 24 19:06:51 I have a bxm Rev b. Apr 24 19:07:30 smplman: no love after doing 'modprobe smsc95xx' Apr 24 19:07:36 GrueMaster: it has only happened to me twice. every other time ethernet just works Apr 24 19:07:58 cehh: you try to unplug and plug back in? Apr 24 19:08:00 I do have eth lights Apr 24 19:08:20 cehh: solid or blinking lights? Apr 24 19:08:30 On my board, I always have had link issues. Even with the preinstalled images. Apr 24 19:09:00 Orange LED should be solid (link). Green should blink (traffic). Apr 24 19:09:08 solid orange, blinking green Apr 24 19:09:17 if you have lights go back into the install and dhcp should take over Apr 24 19:10:46 same error, can't dhcp. Apr 24 19:11:10 cehh: Sounds like an issue on the dhcp server side. Apr 24 19:12:11 yes, the problem is that the other equip on the network can dhcp just fine. Apr 24 19:12:28 One issue I had was that I had to increase the # of dhcp assigned ip addresses and reduce the lease time. Doing constant reboots on the beaglexm would eventually cause me to run out of addresses. Apr 24 19:13:01 Remember, the bxm doesn't have a static mac address. Apr 24 19:14:20 And I don't think the kernel will use the same mac as assigned by u-boot. Apr 24 19:15:08 will try on a different network Apr 24 19:18:09 cehh: I have it installing here (almost done actually). Apr 24 19:28:34 yea i ran out of addresses also Apr 24 19:28:44 it also jacks with ssl certs Apr 24 19:58:45 I tried on a different network but faced same dhcp problem. I will use manual nw config for now Apr 24 20:11:00 cehh, did you have problem with dhcp? I had the same problem with ubuntu core, but I'm not totally sure it's not a configuration fault on my side Apr 24 20:28:21 jeinor: yes, I had problems w/ dhcp. I'm using manual nw config for now Apr 24 20:29:11 GrueMaster: I'm getting close...Now I'm getting an error about mirror not supporting precise release Apr 24 20:29:17 http://pastebin.com/2sE9cjUS Apr 24 20:31:45 my preseed.cfg is at http://pastebin.com/SYArrsp8 Apr 24 20:31:58 cehh: i have heard the servers are getting slammed today for some reason Apr 24 21:24:01 hi Apr 24 21:25:57 i got an arm device Apr 24 21:26:06 i can't able to run youtube Apr 24 21:26:08 is that nomal ? Apr 24 22:11:46 GrueMaster: you still around? Apr 24 22:12:04 I'm back now. Apr 24 22:12:39 cehh: That mirror looks like a debian mirror, not an Ubuntu mirror. Apr 24 22:13:37 Nothing in it to indicate an Ubuntu mirror. Apr 24 22:14:10 And afaik, there are no public mirrors of ports.ubuntu.com. I have my own private internal mirror, but that is it. Apr 24 22:19:47 GrueMaster: i needed some help with the netboot image but i got it Apr 24 22:19:57 like i said, i fumbled through it ;0) Apr 24 22:20:01 Ah, ok. Apr 24 22:20:07 running now Apr 24 22:20:46 GrueMaster: network configured automatically Apr 24 22:34:08 cehh: it also looks like you used the debian squeeze variant instead of the precise Apr 24 22:34:14 i did that once Apr 24 23:26:58 hai Apr 24 23:27:25 been having some random issues with my panda-es over the past few weeks and was curious if any of you guys have seen something similar Apr 24 23:27:38 12.04 server, using the preinstalled image, fully updated Apr 24 23:28:11 over the course of a day in running, it just vanishes from the network, a quick reset and i'm up and running Apr 24 23:28:43 have a serial console connected now to see if I can gather any other information, but anyone seen any random failures like this? Apr 24 23:29:28 initially thought it might have been a power lackage from my PoE adapter, but have since reproduced with that out of the equasion Apr 24 23:41:08 vanhoof, where is the rootfs stored? nfs, usb-hdd? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Apr 25 02:59:58 2012