**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jun 06 02:59:58 2012
Jun 06 08:49:44 <ppisati> ogra_: what was your problem with panda's led?
Jun 06 10:01:53 <ppisati> ogra_: what was your problem with panda's led?
Jun 06 10:02:47 <ogra_> ppisati, they arent in the initrd we build for resizing, so if the screen is broken you dont really see that the board is doing something apart from the NIC LEDs
Jun 06 10:03:13 <ppisati> ogra_: why they aren't in installer initrd?
Jun 06 10:03:17 <ogra_> (rootfs only gets mounted after the next reboot)
Jun 06 10:04:09 <ogra_> good question, i bet because the initramfs-tools scripts dont have any clue about led_gpio
Jun 06 10:05:13 <ogra_> but beyond that i dont understand why we dont build all driver for HW the board has into the kernel anyway
Jun 06 10:05:18 <ogra_> *drivers
Jun 06 10:05:56 <ppisati> ogra_: actually that was compiled in in P
Jun 06 10:06:01 <ogra_> its a single purpose kernel, all pandas should have the same HW so we could save the boot time to load modules
Jun 06 10:06:16 <ogra_> i see led_gpio with lsmod ...
Jun 06 10:06:33 <ppisati> yep
Jun 06 10:06:44 <ogra_> oh, in P
Jun 06 10:07:05 <ppisati> updateconfigs turned it =m i guess
Jun 06 10:07:25 <ogra_> well, its not overly important, its just showing explicitly due to the monitor issue
Jun 06 10:07:33 <ppisati> yeah
Jun 06 10:07:35 <ogra_> otherwise i wouldnt even have noticed
Jun 06 10:07:42 <ppisati> anyway
Jun 06 10:07:51 <ppisati> let's compile it in
Jun 06 10:07:54 <ppisati> actually
Jun 06 10:07:55 <ogra_> yeah
Jun 06 10:08:05 <ppisati> i would like to know how our initramfs are populated
Jun 06 10:08:17 <ppisati> what if, for example, i want to add module xyz?
Jun 06 10:08:34 <twb> ppisati: initramfs-tools has pretty extensive docs
Jun 06 10:08:57 <twb> You add a build-time hook that says something like 'require_mod xyz'.  I forget the exact details
Jun 06 10:09:06 <ogra_> take a look at /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hook-functions
Jun 06 10:09:23 <ogra_> that has the functions that loop over modules
Jun 06 10:09:36 <ogra_> and decide if they need to be pulled in or not
Jun 06 10:10:17 <ogra_> (with a lot of hardcoding in "auto_add_modules")
Jun 06 10:11:06 <ogra_> i assume we should add an auto_add_modules gpio function for gpio drivers
Jun 06 10:12:01 <ogra_> (initramfs-tools defaults to MODULES=most which in turn uses the auto_add_modules function)
Jun 06 10:14:31 <twb> IIRC you can even just list extra modules you want in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules or so
Jun 06 10:15:04 <ogra_> twb, we are talking about the default behavior ...
Jun 06 10:15:18 <ogra_> the configs are just overrides
Jun 06 10:15:33 <ogra_> we usually never use them in official images
Jun 06 10:36:06 <_william_> hi all
Jun 06 10:37:01 <_william_> I would like to know if there exist a flashplayer (free or nonfree) for ARM architecture ?
Jun 06 10:41:46 <ogra_> yes, but only for companies that sign contracts with adobe (i.e. most android phones come with flash)
Jun 06 10:42:25 <_william_> ok thanks
Jun 06 10:42:27 <ogra_> there are free alternatives ... some of them work so so ... some are totally unusable ... (look for gnash or lightspark)
Jun 06 10:43:25 <_william_> i'm first going to ask my hardware manufacturer if they have a player they can ship with the terminal
Jun 06 11:34:34 <angs> I am trying to create an adhoc wlan and typed the following commands but I can not see my embedded board on "iwlist wlan0 scan" in my laptop. Does anyone have any suggestion?
Jun 06 11:34:37 <angs> ifconfig wlan0 down
Jun 06 11:34:37 <angs> iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc essid beagleboard-xm channel 1 key abcdef1234
Jun 06 11:34:37 <angs> ifconfig -a wlan0 10.42.43.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
Jun 06 11:34:37 <angs> ifconfig wlan0 up
Jun 06 11:39:19 <angs> ping 255.255.255.255?
Jun 06 11:39:24 <angs> anyone?
Jun 06 12:01:21 <marvin24> [22:40:54] <janimo> marvin24, here is hangs after Freeing init memory: 336K
Jun 06 12:01:31 <marvin24> yes, there is a known problem with the console
Jun 06 12:01:42 <marvin24> but I don't know how to solve it
Jun 06 12:02:04 <ogra_> make plymouthd unexecutable
Jun 06 12:02:16 <marvin24> I mean solve it in the kernel
Jun 06 12:02:20 <marvin24> not back userspace hack
Jun 06 12:02:25 <janimo> marvin24, so how come only mine does not boot if it is aknown problem?
Jun 06 12:02:33 * ogra_ hasnt opened a bug for that yet but plans to look into it before final release
Jun 06 12:02:58 <janimo> ogra_, so you have 3.1 booting, did you need some hack around it?
Jun 06 12:03:00 <ogra_> janimo, i forgot about telling you :) mine wouldnt boot either if i hadnt changed that months ago
Jun 06 12:03:08 <marvin24> dito
Jun 06 12:03:21 <janimo> sigh, I could have used this info in the ml thread :)
Jun 06 12:03:28 <ogra_> sorry
Jun 06 12:03:40 <janimo> I thought 3.1 was ready to upload from all points of view
Jun 06 12:03:58 <janimo> np, dealing with these things sucks and prone to forgetting stuff :)
Jun 06 12:04:18 <janimo> so there is no point trying to upload now since it would not boot on stock ubuntu
Jun 06 12:04:32 <ogra_> well, by all means upload it, i can work around in the ac100 installer for the time being
Jun 06 12:04:53 <janimo> ah, so upload but not make it default yet ?Fine
Jun 06 12:05:07 <ogra_> i'm also not sure its necessarily a kernel issue, might actually be plymouth
Jun 06 12:05:30 <janimo> ogra_, btw do you know about arm chroots via qemu-static on x86? Any way to tell it to use many CPUs for use in cross building?
Jun 06 12:05:32 <ogra_> i dont think anyone has debugged it deeply yet
Jun 06 12:05:48 <janimo> I do such a build now but it seems the default is single CPU, and slooow kernel build
Jun 06 12:05:58 <ogra_> hmm, i never tried multiple build threads
Jun 06 12:06:00 <marvin24> ogra_: event the android device people (for android 4.0) see this problem
Jun 06 12:06:06 <marvin24> but android doesn't care
Jun 06 12:06:17 <ogra_> ah
Jun 06 12:07:45 <janimo> marvin24, so making plymouthd executable is the workaround?
Jun 06 12:08:02 <ogra_> unexecutable ...
Jun 06 12:08:06 <janimo> ah
Jun 06 12:08:15 <marvin24> I somehow did it different I think
Jun 06 12:08:28 <marvin24> dpkg -r plymouth also worked ...
Jun 06 12:08:41 <ogra_> i moved mine to .orig and linked the actual plymouthd to /dev/null
Jun 06 12:08:43 <ogra_> err
Jun 06 12:08:50 <ogra_> /bin/true, sorry
Jun 06 12:10:58 <janimo> is there some command line arg to deactivate plymouth?
Jun 06 12:11:05 <janimo> kernel cmdline that is
Jun 06 12:11:09 <ogra_> nope
Jun 06 12:11:27 <ogra_> you could try dropping splash but i think that still fires off plymouthd from mountall
Jun 06 12:11:36 <ogra_> once the rootfs is mounted
Jun 06 12:11:57 <ogra_> since plymouth acts as UI to mountall
Jun 06 12:16:41 <janimo> yes, I boot without splash to see the error messages
Jun 06 12:42:29 <angs> does anyone else have problem with ssh to the embedded board, most of the time ubuntu-arm refuses the ssh connection
Jun 06 12:46:41 <lilstevie> janimo: ogra_ yeah I had to move plymouthd to .orig and link to /bin/true also for the transformer prime on 3.1
Jun 06 12:46:47 <lilstevie> nvidia broke something
Jun 06 12:47:01 <janimo> lilstevie, thanks, good to have another confirmation
Jun 06 12:47:12 <janimo> is this true for later kernels too?
Jun 06 12:47:59 <lilstevie> janimo: 3.1 is the latest we have running on the tf201\
Jun 06 12:48:03 <lilstevie> tf201*
Jun 06 12:48:32 <janimo> what about tf101 ?
Jun 06 12:48:49 <janimo> so it is not a tegra2 only thing even
Jun 06 12:49:45 <lilstevie> no it is a tegra thing in general
Jun 06 12:50:21 <lilstevie> and we (androidroot) haven't applied the technique to update kernel yet to the tf101
Jun 06 12:50:49 <lilstevie> the only 3.1 ports are by people who have sketchy reps at best
Jun 06 13:13:10 <ogra_> ndec, one more for your collection http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDA4ODAzODMy.html :)
Jun 06 14:45:12 <ogra_> ndec, is there any way we can tell 4460 and 4470 pandas apart by looking at the board ?
Jun 06 14:45:38 <ogra_> (we just got a new chunk and i'm not sure which they are )
Jun 06 15:47:21 <GrueMaster> ndec: Did you ever get my Blaze?  I wanted to confirm it was received.
Jun 06 16:31:57 <angs> I have 5 embedded board that runs ubuntu, none of them gets IP when I plug the ethernet cable. Ethernet led is always red although the cable is plugged. I checked the cable and connection, it works. if I use another linux distribution (e.g. angstroms dist.), eth0 interface gets IP. what should I do?
Jun 06 16:32:53 <GrueMaster> angs: First, what board (there are a few out there). second is this an Ubuntu kernel?
Jun 06 16:34:15 <angs> I use beaglebone and loaded images according to the instruction here: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Precise_12.04_armhf
Jun 06 16:34:51 <angs> I can not connect to the board now, it should be 3.2.0 kernel
Jun 06 16:36:35 <angs> I was connected one of them after hundred attempts, ubuntu was working fine
Jun 06 16:38:07 <GrueMaster> Well, I know the beaglebone doesn't use an Ubuntu kernel, so you won't get much support here (sorry).  Try asking on #beagle.
Jun 06 16:39:01 <GrueMaster> The only other suggestion would be to see what ethtool reports when the cable is plugged in.
Jun 06 16:40:05 <angs> #beagle people use angstroms dist which sucks and very problematic.
Jun 06 16:40:31 <ogra_> well, rcn-ee is often here, i guess its his kernel you use
Jun 06 16:40:34 <angs> how can I access ethtool?
Jun 06 16:40:41 <ogra_> he should be able to help you with issues
Jun 06 16:40:45 <angs> yes what is his nick?
Jun 06 16:40:52 <angs> thanks ogra_ it is good to know
Jun 06 16:41:22 <ogra_> his nick is rcn-ee
Jun 06 16:41:30 <ogra_> he is usually also in #beagle though
Jun 06 16:41:34 <angs> thank you
Jun 06 17:39:32 <muriani> anyone else have issues with wxgtk-based programs working one time, and then all segfaulting when run any time after that?
Jun 06 17:40:02 <Neko> muriani, YO DUDE!
Jun 06 17:40:05 <Neko> <-- Matt from Genesi
Jun 06 17:40:13 * ogra_ doesnt think anyone tests wxgtk :/
Jun 06 17:40:21 <muriani> in 11.10 specifically, haven't tried 11.04, and 12.04's armhf doesn't play well what I'm doing
Jun 06 17:40:24 <muriani> Neko: DUDE!
Jun 06 17:40:27 <muriani> :D
Jun 06 17:40:54 <Neko> you know if you asked nicely I could have sent you an Efika :)
Jun 06 17:40:59 <muriani> hahahaha
Jun 06 17:41:03 <muriani> I have one!
Jun 06 17:41:11 <Neko> the PPC one, I'm sure?
Jun 06 17:41:14 <Neko> I meant the ARM one
Jun 06 17:41:14 <muriani> oh wait, you mean an MX :P
Jun 06 18:06:05 <muriani> anyhoo, anyone had experience with trying to run gnuradio stuff in ubuntu recently?
Jun 06 18:06:12 <muriani> other than me.
Jun 06 20:18:17 <angs> I have followed the all methods on http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu to install ubuntu to my board(beagleboard). I get "unable to open a folder for boot" error each time as it is seen here http://i47.tinypic.com/33wr0k1.png Is it a something that I should be worry or is it an unimportant error?
Jun 06 21:59:59 <scientes> whaaaaa
Jun 06 22:00:13 <scientes> why is it using xdg-utils
Jun 06 22:05:32 <lilstevie> janrinze: sure, just submit a pull request, I will evaluate, and if it gets rejected I will also give you a comment on why
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