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Jun 16 03:16:55 <mahmoh> GrueMaster: thx, I tried that and it did nothing - turns out the new flash-kernel doesn't use it, all that's handled in the initrd now, which appears broken
Jun 16 03:17:04 <mahmoh> dannf: thx for looking ^
Jun 16 07:46:43 <cvanvliet> should I have an omaplfb module being able to load with a stock Linaro (Ubuntu) image. When I try to start PVR, tells me I have no module
Jun 16 07:47:08 <cvanvliet> I have an Overo IronStorm (dm3730)
Jun 16 07:51:17 <infinity> cvanvliet: Make up your mind, is it a Linaro image, or stock Ubuntu?
Jun 16 07:51:23 <infinity> Two very different kernels.
Jun 16 07:51:40 <infinity> If you use a 12.04 Ubuntu image, PVR will Just Work.
Jun 16 07:52:30 <infinity> If you're using Linaro images, those are entirely different kernels, meant to hilight the latest and greatest upstream bits, but the PVR drivers aren't built to work with them.
Jun 16 07:52:49 <cvanvliet> infinity, thanks
Jun 16 07:53:03 <cvanvliet> I think that is the info I needed
Jun 16 07:53:26 <cvanvliet> I cant use 12.04 as it is armhf and we need the SGX drivers
Jun 16 07:55:21 <infinity> Hrm?
Jun 16 07:55:39 <infinity> TI is only building the drivers for armhf now.
Jun 16 07:55:53 <cvanvliet> OMAP3?
Jun 16 07:56:07 <cvanvliet> I thought is was only OMAP4
Jun 16 07:56:13 <infinity> Oh.  No, for Panda.  I'm not sure what they're doing for omap3.
Jun 16 07:56:27 <infinity> I missed the bit above about the plaform.
Jun 16 07:56:49 <infinity> You could use 12.04/armel, though.  We just don't provide preinstalled images for that.
Jun 16 07:56:56 <cvanvliet> infinity, it is all new to me, all info helps ;)
Jun 16 07:57:03 <infinity> We do provide d-i netboot images, if you have an external HDD to install to.
Jun 16 07:58:22 <cvanvliet> ahh, i did not no there was a 12.04 armel, I was under the impression it was only armhf
Jun 16 07:58:48 <cvanvliet> where is the best walkthrough (as I said noob)
Jun 16 07:58:49 <infinity> armhf is the only thing we're supporting as an LTS, and the only thing we made nice preinstalled images for.
Jun 16 07:59:01 <infinity> But you can install armel readily enough with a d-i image.
Jun 16 07:59:01 <cvanvliet> got it
Jun 16 07:59:10 <infinity> Like I said, if you have an external HDD.  Which is the sane way to go anyway.
Jun 16 07:59:13 <lilstevie> where possible armhf is much better
Jun 16 07:59:35 <lilstevie> but yeah, not possible for you
Jun 16 07:59:35 <infinity> http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/precise/main/installer-armel/current/images/omap/netboot/
Jun 16 07:59:44 <cvanvliet> lilstevie, yeah, understood
Jun 16 08:00:01 <infinity> lilstevie: Yeah, we tried to lean on TI to get armhf builds of omap3 binary blobs, but they really only seemed to care about omap4.
Jun 16 08:00:03 <lilstevie> I was in the same boat
Jun 16 08:00:04 <infinity> Which made some sense.
Jun 16 08:00:06 <cvanvliet> our target has to be for now omap3
Jun 16 08:00:16 <lilstevie> infinity: yeah, why waste resources on old hardware
Jun 16 08:00:23 <infinity> lilstevie: Pretty much.
Jun 16 08:00:41 <infinity> lilstevie: I might push them again at some point.  I'd happily SRU armhf blobs into precise.
Jun 16 08:00:44 <lilstevie> or if you are nvidia why waste resources period
Jun 16 08:00:49 <lilstevie> heh
Jun 16 08:01:13 <infinity> ndec: Say, can we get armhf builds of omap3 sgx blobs for precise?  Kthx.
Jun 16 08:01:16 <infinity> robclark: ^
Jun 16 08:01:17 <lilstevie> I will just be happy once I can get live-build to cooperate and build me a nice image
Jun 16 08:01:59 <infinity> lilstevie: Oh, one of my work items (if I find the time to do it) is to mangle live-build so that it can produce "proper" Ubuntu images end-to-end.
Jun 16 08:02:26 <lilstevie> but then part of me says I should wait until nvidia release r15rc
Jun 16 08:02:27 <infinity> lilstevie: In other words, taking all the "magic" that we do with cdimage/debian-cd out of the loop, so what happens on the buildds can happen on your local machine, and the result is identical.
Jun 16 08:02:42 <lilstevie> oh nice
Jun 16 08:02:54 <lilstevie> I still am at the stage of configuring it to build something for me
Jun 16 08:03:14 <lilstevie> getting ready to produce tf201 images
Jun 16 08:03:18 <cvanvliet> infinity, any chance TI , will change their opinion, we are using gumstix / IGEP devices
Jun 16 08:03:28 <infinity> Well, for the weird way ogra_ does ac100 images, that goal's already there.
Jun 16 08:03:30 <cvanvliet> and that is why stuck at omap3
Jun 16 08:03:43 <lilstevie> infinity: yeah, but that isn't how I do things
Jun 16 08:03:55 <lilstevie> :p
Jun 16 08:04:02 <infinity> Installing livecd-rootfs, and mangling the ac100 target to do what you want, and building with -fplain will get you a bootimg/tarball installer mess.
Jun 16 08:04:15 <lilstevie> I have no bootimg
Jun 16 08:04:17 <lilstevie> :)
Jun 16 08:04:21 <infinity> Ahh.
Jun 16 08:04:26 <lilstevie> I boot a zImage/initrd from /boot
Jun 16 08:04:30 <lilstevie> in the fs
Jun 16 08:04:37 <infinity> Well, that's obviously cleaner.
Jun 16 08:04:45 <infinity> Not sure why that wasn't an option on the ac100.
Jun 16 08:05:04 <infinity> Maybe it was, and Oli's just weird.
Jun 16 08:05:07 <lilstevie> well
Jun 16 08:05:12 <lilstevie> cause by default it isn't
Jun 16 08:05:17 <infinity> That would do it.
Jun 16 08:05:22 <lilstevie> this is a highly customized kexec solution
Jun 16 08:05:27 <infinity> Check.
Jun 16 08:05:34 <lilstevie> although multiboot would offer the same
Jun 16 08:06:07 <lilstevie> kexec doesn't work by default on the tf201, but with some magic that hardboots the device it does :p
Jun 16 08:06:36 <lilstevie> bl inits all the hw from scratch
Jun 16 08:06:51 <lilstevie> kernel decompressor code finds a flag in memory
Jun 16 08:07:05 <lilstevie> jumps to different logic that boots the other kernel
Jun 16 08:09:18 <infinity> lilstevie: That sounds like a pretty violent abuse of kexec.  Well done.
Jun 16 08:09:23 * infinity thinks it might be sleep time.
Jun 16 08:11:26 <lilstevie> it is violent but gotta thank the guy who thought of it
Jun 16 08:11:29 <lilstevie> it works amazingly
Jun 16 08:11:35 <lilstevie> night
Jun 16 08:13:08 <cvanvliet> night infinity and thanks
Jun 16 08:38:07 <cvanvliet> following these instructions here, for netboot -> http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ARM/NetBoot
Jun 16 08:38:35 <cvanvliet> I need to load a specific module for my network card
Jun 16 08:38:51 <cvanvliet> how do i do that?
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