**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 13 02:59:58 2012
Jul 13 09:40:50 <ndec> ogra_: hi. are you aware of any problem to play mp3 with 12.04? we get segfault with gst/libmad, and if we rebuild libmad with  —disable-aso  there is no problem. i am surprised that I don't see a bug for that...
Jul 13 09:41:16 <ogra_> hmm, havent heard of that
Jul 13 09:41:28 <ndec> if you don't hear MP3, it's because of that ;-)
Jul 13 09:41:46 <ndec> do you have an ARM h/w running ubuntu close by?
Jul 13 09:42:19 <ndec> if you could try a gst-launch playbin2 uri=file://<xxx.mp3> that would be nice.
Jul 13 09:44:22 <ogra_> nothing with a desktop install atm (doing low level work here) but i will test that
Jul 13 09:45:29 <ndec> ok. thx
Jul 13 10:26:09 <Laney> does the daily live image (quantal-desktop-armhf+omap4) install onto the same sd card it's booted from?
Jul 13 10:26:39 <Laney> I was expecting to be able to install it onto a USB disk but it just went ahead and installed without giving me a choice of destination
Jul 13 10:30:26 <LetoThe2nd> um, have the images ever been different?
Jul 13 10:30:58 <ogra_> Laney, no, you need an USB disk
Jul 13 10:31:18 <Laney> I don't know what happened then
Jul 13 10:31:36 <ogra_> and you should get the normal ubiquity partitioning dialogs as on x86 ... if not, thats a bug
Jul 13 10:32:05 <ogra_> "use whole disk" should default to your USB disk
Jul 13 10:32:05 <Laney> I chose timezone, keyboard layout, username
Jul 13 10:32:41 * ogra_ guesses he needs to do a test install to take a look, stgraber also reported some weird stuff yesterday
Jul 13 10:33:05 <Laney> and indeed cfdisk confirms the USB disk hasn't been touched
Jul 13 10:33:49 <ogra_> well, smells a bit like the installer is in oem-config mode ... stephane had an oem-config related error messsage too
Jul 13 10:34:01 <ogra_> though i have no idea why that would be
Jul 13 10:34:26 <Laney> I can believe that, yeah
Jul 13 10:34:57 <ogra_> if you look at the SD, do you actually have a squashfs on there ?
Jul 13 10:35:02 <ogra_> (second partition)
Jul 13 10:35:33 <ogra_> (in the casper/ dir)
Jul 13 10:45:50 <Laney> ogra_: I see no casper/ there
Jul 13 10:45:56 <ogra_> oh
Jul 13 10:46:05 <ogra_> which image did you download then ?
Jul 13 10:46:13 <Laney> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/quantal-desktop-armhf+omap4.img
Jul 13 10:46:23 <Laney> argh
Jul 13 10:46:37 <Laney> hang on ...
Jul 13 10:46:40 <ogra_> looks ok to me
Jul 13 10:46:56 <Laney> spot the difference
Jul 13 10:46:58 <Laney> zcat quantal-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+omap4.img.gz | sudo dd bs=4M of=/dev/sdb; sudo sync
Jul 13 10:47:07 <ogra_> lol
Jul 13 10:47:09 <ogra_> K
Jul 13 10:47:22 <ogra_> i should probably add a quantal section to the wiki :P
Jul 13 10:47:39 <Laney> "check your tab completion"
Jul 13 10:48:02 <ogra_> the img file can just be dd'ed
Jul 13 10:48:11 <ogra_> no need for the zcat
Jul 13 10:48:14 <Laney> compressed?
Jul 13 10:48:22 <ogra_> it isnt compressed
Jul 13 10:48:22 <Laney> I think I got that from some wiki page
Jul 13 10:48:37 <ogra_> right, as i said, i need to update it for quantal
Jul 13 10:48:38 <Laney> oh, the desktop one, yeah
Jul 13 10:48:58 <ogra_> sudo dd if=quantal-desktop-armhf+omap4.img of=/dev/sdb bs=4M
Jul 13 10:49:03 <Laney> already doing it
Jul 13 10:49:06 <ogra_> good
Jul 13 10:49:16 <ogra_> theoretically that one should work ....
Jul 13 10:49:23 <ogra_> *theoretically*
Jul 13 10:49:31 <ogra_> *whistle* ...
Jul 13 10:50:19 * Laney coughs
Jul 13 10:53:53 <Laney> this looks a lot more like ubiquity
Jul 13 10:54:36 <ogra_> phew
Jul 13 10:55:04 <ogra_> i hope the bootloader install works now or hw-detect ... it failed in one of these steps
Jul 13 10:55:17 * ogra_ isnt sure which of the two
Jul 13 11:13:05 <Laney> ogra_: ah, bah, it failed
Jul 13 11:13:15 <ogra_> how ?
Jul 13 11:13:28 <Laney> not sure yet
Jul 13 11:13:47 <Laney> hopefully apport collects useful info, otherwise i'll look
Jul 13 11:20:57 <Laney> ogra_: bug 1024356
Jul 13 11:20:58 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1024356 in ubiquity "quantal armhf+omap4 daily live 2012-07-12 crashed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1024356
Jul 13 11:21:01 <Laney> need any more?
Jul 13 11:21:18 <ogra_> looks fine, thx
Jul 13 11:21:24 <Laney> cool
Jul 13 11:21:34 <ogra_> debconf.DebconfError: (10, "oem-config/enable doesn't exist")
Jul 13 11:21:36 <ogra_> aha
Jul 13 11:21:43 <Laney> seen before?
Jul 13 11:21:44 <ogra_> thats the same bug stgraber saw yesterday
Jul 13 11:22:00 <Laney> nice, feel free to dup it
Jul 13 11:22:11 <ogra_> i dont think he filed it actually :)
Jul 13 11:22:17 <ogra_> but he pinged me about it
Jul 13 11:22:21 <Laney> tsk
Jul 13 11:26:11 * Laney retreats back to precise-server :P
Jul 13 11:34:49 <ogra_> ppisati, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/110025692/UbiquitySyslog.txt ... lots of "swapper/0: page allocation failure" ... and "smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0: eth0: kevent 2 may have been dropped" in there
Jul 13 11:36:33 <ppisati> ogra_: was reading it
Jul 13 11:37:08 <ogra_> ah, k
Jul 13 11:51:41 <ppisati> is there a way to "open" the image and replace it with my own kernel? is it the live install?
Jul 13 11:51:44 <ppisati> ogra_: ^
Jul 13 11:52:08 <ppisati> the page allocation failures are a dup of this
Jul 13 11:52:10 <ppisati> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ti-omap4/+bug/746137
Jul 13 11:52:11 <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 746137 in jasper-initramfs "Page allocation failure on Pandaboard and Beagle XM" [Undecided,Fix released]
Jul 13 11:52:23 <ppisati> and the workaround listed there didn't solve the problem
Jul 13 11:52:26 <ppisati> do we still use it?
Jul 13 12:20:11 <ogra_> ppisati, you should be able to replace uImage on the first partition as long as the module symbols match
Jul 13 12:20:36 <ppisati> ogra_: i'll try
Jul 13 12:20:38 <ogra_> the initrd is a capser initrd, thats a bit more tricky to rebuild
Jul 13 12:20:43 <ogra_> *casper
Jul 13 12:20:44 <ppisati> uhm
Jul 13 12:20:53 <ppisati> ogra_: btw with live installer
Jul 13 12:21:00 <ppisati> "Failed to unmoun partitions"
Jul 13 12:21:11 <ppisati>  /cdrom
Jul 13 12:21:26 <ogra_> that shouldnt cause a fatal error
Jul 13 12:21:44 <ogra_> (x86 USB installations dont have /cdrom either)
Jul 13 12:22:20 <ppisati> it's stuck there
Jul 13 12:22:32 <ppisati> and i can't go further nor back
Jul 13 12:23:11 <ogra_> todays image ?
Jul 13 12:23:15 <ppisati> yep
Jul 13 12:23:19 <ppisati> just downloaded
Jul 13 12:23:24 <ogra_> there was a ubiquity upload ....
Jul 13 12:23:38 <ppisati> let me retry
Jul 13 12:23:49 <ogra_> but that wont be on the image i guess
Jul 13 12:24:36 <ogra_> (uploaded 11:35 , images were published at 12:00 ... unlikely that it made it on todays build)
Jul 13 12:34:12 <ppisati> ogra_: so, /dev/mmcblk0p2 is mounted on /cdrom
Jul 13 12:34:36 <ppisati> ogra_: and the installer "needs to do changes to the partition table" but can't since a partition is stil mounted (/cdrom indeed)
Jul 13 12:34:48 <ogra_> err
Jul 13 12:34:55 <ogra_> are you trying to install to the SD ?
Jul 13 12:35:00 <ppisati> ogra_: seems it's impossible to installe don the sd card
Jul 13 12:35:17 <ogra_> thats why the partitioner shows that big fat warning if you select it :)
Jul 13 12:35:40 <ppisati> it means we can't install anymore on the sd card then
Jul 13 12:35:49 <ogra_> you can do it but need to create the rootfs partition beforehand and tell the partitioner to not recreate the partition table
Jul 13 12:36:01 <ppisati> what a mess
Jul 13 12:36:03 <ppisati> ok
Jul 13 12:36:10 <ogra_> (iirc the message the partitioner has says exactly that)
Jul 13 12:36:11 <ppisati> i'll try on the usd hdd
Jul 13 12:36:26 <ogra_> its an old and known restriction ...
Jul 13 12:36:40 <ppisati> does it say we can't install on the same card?
Jul 13 12:36:44 <ppisati> whatever
Jul 13 12:36:53 <ppisati> let me try with the usb hdd
Jul 13 12:36:58 <ogra_> you could take over the toolchain maintenance from infinity, i know he has ideas since a while how to fix it, but he never finds the time for it )
Jul 13 12:37:01 <ogra_> ;)
Jul 13 12:37:46 <ppisati> no way, infinity is doing a great work! :)
Jul 13 12:37:47 <ppisati> btw
Jul 13 12:37:59 <ppisati> "toolchain maintenance"? don't we get it from linaro?
Jul 13 12:38:11 <ppisati> i mean the toolchain
Jul 13 12:39:02 <ogra_> sure, but thats far from prefect ... there are still enough bugs to weed out ... and also bootstrapping a new arch like armhf (or aarm64 next) takes some manpower ...
Jul 13 12:39:15 <ppisati> i guess so
Jul 13 12:39:16 <ogra_> which is usually adams :)
Jul 13 12:39:30 <ppisati> but i though we got it from linaro and we didn't touch it
Jul 13 12:39:43 <ogra_> we ofte enough do
Jul 13 12:39:47 <ogra_> *often
Jul 13 12:39:58 <ogra_> look at who uploads eglibc ;)
Jul 13 12:41:13 <ogra_> he usually works very close with linaro
Jul 13 12:41:56 <ogra_> anyway, i know he has ideas for a fix, but that might require huge amounts of ram i fear (moving the installer to a tmpfs or so)
Jul 13 12:42:33 <ogra_> the partitioner shouldnt show the device to you though ... i think we should have a bug for this ...
Jul 13 12:42:59 <ogra_> i.e. if there is a pre-made partition on the device to install to, it should show it ... if the partition isnt there it should be hidden
Jul 13 12:43:27 <ogra_> that would make far more sense than the current warning nobody reads
Jul 13 12:45:37 <ppisati> to me the biggest drawback is that user now needs another medium besides the sd card to do the installation
Jul 13 12:45:46 <ogra_> right
Jul 13 12:45:52 <ogra_> thats on purposee
Jul 13 12:46:08 <ppisati> really?
Jul 13 12:46:21 <ogra_> demoing a system from the slowest media you can use on it isnt really a helpful demo
Jul 13 12:46:32 <ppisati> true
Jul 13 12:46:32 <ogra_> and thats largely what these images are, demos
Jul 13 12:47:24 <ogra_> beyond that, we really want to get rid of any arch specific deltas when not needed
Jul 13 12:48:06 * ogra_ runs an ubiquity debug session to get more info 
Jul 13 13:02:07 <ppisati> ok
Jul 13 13:02:12 <ppisati> installation finisehed here
Jul 13 13:02:14 <ppisati> reboot
Jul 13 13:02:25 <ppisati> (i can;t type today)
Jul 13 13:04:23 <ogra_> its friday the 13th ... nobody expects you to be able to type :P
Jul 13 13:04:34 <ppisati> or to survive...
Jul 13 13:04:38 <ogra_> heh
Jul 13 13:04:58 <ppisati> cool
Jul 13 13:05:01 <ppisati> it took a bit
Jul 13 13:05:03 <ppisati> but it booted
Jul 13 13:05:07 <ogra_> nice
Jul 13 13:05:38 <ppisati> but now i need an sd install only (sprinting next week and i don';t want to bring my hdd around)
Jul 13 13:05:45 * ppisati -> reinstall preinstalled
Jul 13 13:06:27 <ppisati> don't we produce omap4 preinsatalled anymore?
Jul 13 13:06:44 <ogra_> nope
Jul 13 13:06:48 <ppisati> there's only the server
Jul 13 13:06:52 <ppisati> i'll use that
Jul 13 13:07:10 <ogra_> as i said above. you can install to a pre-created partition on the SD
Jul 13 13:08:13 <ppisati> server is faster
Jul 13 13:08:21 <ppisati> i'll leave the desktop version @ home
Jul 13 13:08:58 <ppisati> and
Jul 13 13:09:11 <ppisati> btw, the splash screen didn't work during the boot
Jul 13 13:09:43 <ogra_> yep, known
Jul 13 13:09:57 <ogra_> bug 1018907
Jul 13 13:09:59 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1018907 in plymouth "plymouth in quantal on arm does only boot with black screen" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1018907
Jul 13 13:22:29 <stgraber> ogra_: trying with the latest ubiquity it actually worked here... but according to cjwatson and the ubiquity diff, there wasn't any fix in there...
Jul 13 13:22:45 <stgraber> so it's some kind of race and I got lucky, I guess
Jul 13 13:22:58 <ppisati> stgraber: omap4 live daily?
Jul 13 13:24:27 <ogra_> stgraber, my test install is in the last stages, lets see
Jul 13 13:25:29 <stgraber> ppisati: yep
Jul 13 13:26:18 <ogra_> ok, crashed here too ... apport running
Jul 13 13:26:35 <ogra_> (i ran with ubiquity -d, lets see if that shows the issue)
Jul 13 13:27:07 <stgraber> ogra_: check /var/log/syslog for a stacktrace containing "oem-config/enable doesn't exist"
Jul 13 13:27:50 <stgraber> ogra_: Colin added some debugging in ubiquity with the latest release to try and catch that bug (or another bug in the same area), so hopefully you'll have something in the log that'll help debugging
Jul 13 13:29:32 <ppisati> doh...
Jul 13 13:29:36 <ppisati> it did work here...
Jul 13 13:30:02 <ogra_> sigh
Jul 13 13:30:08 <ogra_> i have a totally different error
Jul 13 13:30:15 <ogra_> thats absolutely not helpful :(
Jul 13 13:30:36 <ogra_> (massive amounts of ext2 errors in syslog)
Jul 13 13:33:31 <stgraber> fun
Jul 13 13:35:04 <ogra_> yeah
Jul 13 13:35:26 <ogra_> i still dont get why the images default to use an ext2 partition for /boot ... we dont make any use of it
Jul 13 13:35:53 <ogra_> rsalveti, hey
Jul 13 13:36:55 <rsalveti> ogra_: hey!
Jul 13 13:37:18 <ogra_> rsalveti, do you have any ETA for new dkms drivers for omap4 that work with TILT ?
Jul 13 13:40:38 <rsalveti> ogra_: ti pushed a new version at the ppa, I'll be reviewing it later today to see if I can update the driver available at quantal
Jul 13 13:40:44 <rsalveti> but it should work with tilt
Jul 13 13:41:11 <ogra_> awesome, thanks ... since we have full jockey support all users get offered the installation immediately after first boot
Jul 13 13:41:23 <rsalveti> yeah, makes sense
Jul 13 13:41:26 <ogra_> so having a fixed package in the archive would help a lot :)
Jul 13 13:41:51 <rsalveti> the newer driver will probably require a few patches on some other packages, but I'll review those as well
Jul 13 13:42:35 <rsalveti> ogra_: ppisati: regarding the smsc95xx messages, the workaround was part of jasper
Jul 13 13:42:54 <rsalveti> and if we want to install the rootfs at a usb driver, we need it around from first boot
Jul 13 13:43:18 <rsalveti> otherwise you'll get tons of messages and it'll make the system slow
Jul 13 13:44:16 <ogra_> oh, i remember, that was a sysctl workaround
Jul 13 13:56:55 <ppisati> rsalveti: do you carry it in linaro? the workaround i mean
Jul 13 13:57:24 <rsalveti> ppisati: yup
Jul 13 17:52:54 <janimo> marvin24, ogra_ the free nvflash replacement does only work with unlocked devices of course. Useful since it is easier to install than nvflash if it's packaged but does not do anything which already can't be done
Jul 13 17:53:14 <janimo> such as flash locked down hardware :)
Jul 13 17:53:42 <janimo> marvin24, if X fails to start with 'TEGRA: Failed to initialize display controller library' where would you look for a fix?
Jul 13 17:53:46 <janimo> 2.6.39 kernel
Jul 13 17:53:58 <janimo> 2.6.36 works with the same userland/X
Jul 13 17:54:06 <marvin24> janimo: urg
Jul 13 17:54:11 <marvin24> update your kernel ...
Jul 13 17:54:16 <janimo> to 3.1 ?
Jul 13 17:54:21 <marvin24> or 3.0
Jul 13 17:54:22 <janimo> transformer not ac100
Jul 13 17:54:29 <janimo> works with 26.36
Jul 13 17:54:35 <marvin24> ah, you need the right display drivers for your kernel
Jul 13 17:54:41 <marvin24> every kernel has a different one
Jul 13 17:54:44 <janimo> just thought you know since it is tegra2 stuff
Jul 13 17:54:57 <marvin24> we just skipped this version ;-)
Jul 13 17:55:12 <janimo> heh, nvidia dev site is closed due to attacks at the moment
Jul 13 17:55:26 <janimo> but I'll try getting another L4T if that should solve it
Jul 13 17:55:36 <janimo> IIRc L4T had one for 2.6.38
Jul 13 17:55:41 <marvin24> yes, someone stole 450000 yahoo acounts and tries every site now with the same passports
Jul 13 17:56:18 <marvin24> I don't know if NV every released L4T for a .39 kernel
Jul 13 17:56:28 <janimo> and this is a reason for closing down a site? I am glad google did not follow nvidia devzone's lead :)
Jul 13 17:56:42 <marvin24> not yet ...
Jul 13 17:56:56 <marvin24> they are very nervous
Jul 13 17:56:57 <janimo> they have kernels for each L4T tagged appropriately but the reverse is not true
Jul 13 18:15:36 <janimo> ogra_, did you do some more detective work on the ac100 crash with large initrd?
Jul 13 19:19:12 <marvin24> janimo: fastboot can only handle 2 MB initrds
Jul 13 19:19:18 <marvin24> hard coded
Jul 13 19:19:37 <marvin24> which was more than enough, android uses 150 k !
Jul 13 19:20:00 <janimo> marvin24, is ubuntu already using best compression method? It's lzma right?
Jul 13 19:20:35 <marvin24> no, I always used xz (which is not so good)
Jul 13 19:20:46 <marvin24> we could try with lzma though
Jul 13 19:23:21 <janimo> I think they are comparable
Jul 13 19:23:39 <janimo> we need to get the ubuntu initrd size down for ac100 then I guess
Jul 13 19:24:46 <marvin24> yeah, nearly equal
Jul 13 19:24:55 <marvin24> but my testdata is a bit bad for this
Jul 14 00:28:23 <lilstevie> ogra_: you about?
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