**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 15 02:59:59 2012 Jul 15 15:23:04 hmm, Depends: linux-ti-omap4 but it is not installable Jul 15 15:23:20 any idea what makes apt-get think something can't be installed? Jul 15 15:23:47 (this is filesystem started via debootstrap, and yes I've added ti ppa and apt-get update'd) Jul 15 15:23:50 apt will think something is not installable if a condition in the depends cannot be met Jul 15 15:24:15 right, but any way I can get more output to hint at what that condition might be? Jul 15 15:24:29 I'm guessing something is missing because I started w/ debootstrap Jul 15 15:24:31 pastie the error message? Jul 15 15:24:45 not too much informative that I can see, but hang on Jul 15 15:25:16 lilstevie, http://hastebin.com/gaqedakido.vhdl Jul 15 15:26:07 oh, g-damn-it Jul 15 15:26:18 I think debootstrap gave me an armel filesystem Jul 15 15:26:27 apt-get install linux-ti-omap4 Jul 15 15:26:39 see why linux-ti-omap4 is uninstallable Jul 15 15:26:40 I think all stuff in ti ppa is armhf Jul 15 15:26:44 but that will generally do it Jul 15 15:27:20 yeah, debootstrap gave me armel.. ok.. time for take-2 Jul 15 15:31:24 heh Jul 15 15:31:36 well yeah, debootstrap is not used these days Jul 15 15:33:48 well, issue was I was doing debootstrap from my oneric filesys.. I did really trust dist-update for the armel->armhf upgrade Jul 15 15:34:03 but I didn't give --arch so I guess it just assumed armel Jul 15 15:34:16 * robclark didn't even realize there was an armel precise Jul 15 15:34:34 (s/did/didn't/) Jul 15 17:05:54 hi Jul 15 17:06:37 can i install ubuntu on a nokia phone which use symbian Jul 15 17:06:39 ? Jul 15 17:12:30 any answers? Jul 15 17:14:27 os_, must be armv7 Jul 15 17:14:37 yeh it is Jul 15 17:15:16 oh, symbian is a totally differn't OS Jul 15 17:15:28 i know Jul 15 17:15:32 so it would be a PITA Jul 15 17:15:40 can i replace it with ubuntu? Jul 15 17:15:53 well you would have to be able to modify the bootloader Jul 15 17:16:03 and you would have to have hardware support in linux for all your devices Jul 15 17:16:10 and chipset Jul 15 17:16:16 and arm hardware support really isn't that good Jul 15 17:16:32 :( Jul 15 17:16:54 i mean there is good support for some hardware, but it isn't like x86, where one kernel you can just boot and see Jul 15 17:17:09 there are like a bazillion differn't incompatible kernel configs, so you have to compile for your specific chipset Jul 15 17:17:26 :( Jul 15 17:17:38 ok Jul 15 17:17:43 and anyways, ubuntu isn't really targeted at super-small devices and those type of input methods, although work is very appreciated Jul 15 17:18:01 ok Jul 15 17:18:02 thanks Jul 15 17:18:07 if you want to work on arm, i recommend one of theses well-supported boards: http://www.linaro.org/engineering/getting-started/low-cost-development-boards/ Jul 15 17:18:25 here is a netbook: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TEGRA/AC100/ Jul 15 17:19:06 ok Jul 15 17:19:12 thanks Jul 15 17:19:45 linux/ubuntu can be installed in a chroot on android Jul 15 17:20:13 canonical is even selling it http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android Jul 15 17:21:21 so, hardware support is actually pretty good, sans graphics drivers, but its pretty complex--and the way arm works, chips arn't neccicarily compatible, its not like you have a standardized base like x86 Jul 15 17:33:05 probably saying "there is no one-click-installer" would have sufficed. or a plain "no" Jul 15 17:33:12 ;P Jul 15 17:34:42 LetoThe2nd, indeed **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jul 16 02:59:57 2012