**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jul 28 02:59:59 2012 Jul 28 19:12:36 so trying to install precise server pre-installed on to a panda board Jul 28 19:12:50 the resize finishes, but it fails to mount roofs after the reboot Jul 28 19:12:59 any tips on what to do? Jul 28 19:13:05 (I have a 32GB sd card) Jul 28 19:13:28 i fixed the rootfs on my host laptop, and resizing it offline Jul 28 19:13:33 hopefully it will work =/ Jul 28 19:44:52 howdy Jul 28 19:45:01 where do i get a uboot build for tf101? Jul 28 19:47:57 ? Jul 28 20:28:31 xnox: Resize always goes fine for me on a 32G card, so it's nothing to do with the size. Jul 28 20:29:02 xnox: But I'll give the same advice I give everyone: get an external USB drive and do a netboot. Jul 28 20:42:57 lilstevie: do you know if the tf300t or the 700 is supported by olife? Jul 28 20:44:27 anyone else here know about installing ubuntu on the tf300t? Jul 28 21:04:47 anyone here with recommendations for a tablet that has quadcore arm and allows installation of ubuntu? Jul 28 21:39:03 infinity: well i am suspecting that I have a fake sd card. i did managed to get to oem-config only to be killed by fs errors Jul 28 21:39:27 xnox: SD/MMC sucks. News at 11. Jul 28 21:39:39 xnox: Seriously, plug in a hard drive, do a netboot, rejoice. Jul 28 21:41:09 infinity: well i do not control a dhcp on my network. Jul 28 21:41:17 so i need to set that up as well for netboot Jul 28 21:41:21 xnox: Eh? Jul 28 21:41:25 xnox: netboot, not PXE. Jul 28 21:41:51 xnox: netboot just means "those tiny d-i images that grab everything from the network", not "some magic requiring bootp/tftp". Jul 28 21:42:23 infinity: hm. ok Jul 28 21:42:32 http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/precise/main/installer-armhf/current/images/omap4/netboot/ Jul 28 21:42:41 why is pre-install not working though! Jul 28 21:42:59 xnox: Grab either boot.img-fb.gz or boot.img-serial.gz (depending on if you're using a serial cable or a monitor/keyboard console), zcat to card, go. Jul 28 21:43:19 xnox: preinstall works when it works, when the hardware is all happy. When it's not, it's not worth diagnosing. Jul 28 21:43:46 xnox: Because "99% of SD/MMC cards kinda suck, and 99% of filesystems that aren't FAT suck on SD/MMC" etc, etc aren't worth fretting over. Jul 28 21:44:04 what's best for sd card? Jul 28 21:44:06 ext2? Jul 28 21:44:10 xnox: And even when preinstall works, the resulting system is slow and crap BECAUSE YOU'RE RUNNING IT ON SD. Jul 28 21:44:19 xnox: FAT. Jul 28 21:44:21 xnox: And FAT. Jul 28 21:44:25 xnox: Also, FAT. Jul 28 21:44:36 xnox: SD cards are designed specifically for FAT filesystems. Jul 28 21:45:02 ext4 without journal? Jul 28 21:45:08 xnox: Some people have tried to work around it with flash-targetted filesystems that try to do all their writes to the same physical areas that FAT does, and that kinda works. ext will never do that. Jul 28 21:45:22 xnox: ext*, even without journalling, still spreads writes all over. Jul 28 21:45:31 hmm =( Jul 28 21:45:35 xnox: SD is designed to take all the heavy write hits to one specific area. Jul 28 21:46:03 Anyhow. Seriously. Don't worry about it. Jul 28 21:46:22 Cause even if you have a nice SD-friendly filesystem, you're still running your filesystem on a slow-ass storage device. Jul 28 21:46:25 And it sucks. Jul 28 21:46:46 And if you intend to use that Panda for anything other than showing people "look, it can display a static web page", use an external drive. Jul 28 21:50:36 xnox: (If we actually ever start targetting Ubuntu at flash-only devices, like doing tablet or phone installs and the like, we should look into things like yaffs2 and such, but for now, when the install is clearly for "servers and desktops", the answer is "use ext4 on an external disk, doofus". :P Jul 28 21:50:41 ) Jul 28 21:55:02 And by "targetting flash-only devices", I don't mean "jamming our desktop install on a tablet", as many do for experimentation, I mean "creating a slimmer slate-targetted install/UI", which is being worked on. Jul 28 21:55:03 also why does chromium crash on amd64 in quantal? Jul 28 21:55:09 * xnox nevermind =) Jul 28 21:55:20 xnox: Ask micahg. :P Jul 28 21:55:37 infinity: he asked for help/contributions in maintaining it :P Jul 28 21:55:52 Oh, then help him, and ask yourself? Jul 28 21:56:09 =) Jul 28 22:21:33 Imagine my surprise when I SSH to the panda to be told that / is full. Jul 28 22:21:35 http://paste.debian.net/181017/ Jul 28 22:30:08 Which appears to contain things like http://paste.debian.net/181018/ over and over Jul 28 22:31:06 Laney, bug 746137 (i told you before) Jul 28 22:31:07 Launchpad bug 746137 in jasper-initramfs "Page allocation failure on Pandaboard and Beagle XM" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/746137 Jul 28 22:31:33 ogra_: I upped that limit. Jul 28 22:31:37 You said it might be taht. Jul 28 22:45:48 Hi, I have a quick question, I want to install Debian Wheezy armhf on my IM53 QSB board, I have succesfuly created a rootfs and compiled a kernel for it however for life of me I can't get any video output. Is there some sort of magic to invoke in u-boot to get the display working or I'm missing something? Jul 28 22:46:56 Laney: Which kernel is that? Jul 28 22:47:07 Linux sherwood 3.4.0-204-omap4 #9-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Mon Jul 9 12:56:56 UTC 2012 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux Jul 28 22:47:27 Laney: Please do file a bug. All (and I mean *all*) slowpath warnings are kernel bugs. Jul 28 22:48:21 oh wait it's not debian-arm -_- silly me Jul 28 22:48:27 I'm scared apport will try to attach that 98G file Jul 28 22:48:41 but yeah. Jul 28 22:48:44 Laney: So don't use apport. Jul 28 22:49:02 Laney: Turns out you can go to /ubuntu/+source/linux-ti-omap4 and click "report a bug". :) Jul 28 22:49:22 Manually attaching stuff is so passé. :-) Jul 28 22:49:28 Laney: Attach snippets of logs, and add the bot-stop-nagging tag, so the bot doesn't have a hissy. Jul 28 22:49:38 doing. Jul 28 22:49:59 Quintasan: display fiddling on the quickstart is painful. Jul 28 22:51:07 infinity: Hell, I got the board hoping I would get some Plasma development done but no gpu drivers so I figured I could turn it into torrent box, but now I can't even get any video output Jul 28 22:53:00 (For the benefit of others, we've taken this discussion to #debian-arm) Jul 28 23:13:42 ogra_: but i am seeing page allocation failures with precise as well... has it been srued? Jul 28 23:14:25 nevermind read the bug report fully now Jul 29 00:45:48 does vfpv3u hardware exist? Jul 29 00:45:56 (user floating point exception traps)? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jul 29 02:59:58 2012