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Aug 02 03:07:41 <ogra_> jimerickson, looks like the installer didnt finish at all, did you get any error messges ?
Aug 02 03:08:42 <jimerickson> just ubi-partman failed with error 141 at one point. i tried it several times.
Aug 02 03:10:01 <ogra_> right, it didnt proceed after that
Aug 02 03:10:22 <jimerickson> correct
Aug 02 03:11:52 <ogra_> also yuo seem to have checked the option to install the nonfree stuff (on the first page), this tries to instll the pvr driver which isnt ready for the current kernel yet
Aug 02 03:12:25 <jimerickson> ah ok i can try it again without that if you wish
Aug 02 03:12:31 <ogra_> (thats unrelated to the partitioner issue indeed)
Aug 02 03:13:06 <ogra_> no. it shouldnt cause the install to fail or crate partition errors
Aug 02 03:13:35 <jimerickson> ok
Aug 02 03:16:03 <ogra_> hmm, something created a vfat on your usb drive as first partiton
Aug 02 03:16:13 <ogra_> did you dothat manually ?
Aug 02 03:17:29 <jimerickson> well at one point i created a fat32 partition in hopes it would populate it
Aug 02 03:18:01 <ogra_> no, it cant boot off the usb driver
Aug 02 03:18:05 <ogra_> *drive
Aug 02 03:18:20 <ogra_> the u-boot partition needs to live on the SD
Aug 02 03:18:36 <ogra_> (imagine the SD as a bootfloppy)
Aug 02 03:18:56 <jimerickson> right but how else can i install except to a usb hub?
Aug 02 03:19:35 <ogra_> well, the install as you did it was surely not wrong, but the vfat on USb would be wasted space
Aug 02 03:20:00 <jimerickson> ok
Aug 02 03:20:15 <ogra_> the bootloader gets installed to the SD card at the end of the installation
Aug 02 03:20:31 <jimerickson> i see
Aug 02 03:20:43 <ogra_> so you dont need to have a vfat on USB
Aug 02 03:22:01 <ogra_> i would try without checking the third party driver option and just letting the partitioner take over the whole usb disk automatically (guided partitoning), see if that works
Aug 02 03:22:38 <jimerickson> will do ogra. i will report back in a few.
Aug 02 03:22:46 <ogra_> ok
Aug 02 03:31:37 <ogra_> i'm not sure about all the debconf messages in your syslog, will have to ask cjwatson about these tomorrow, no idea if they are fatal
Aug 02 03:32:52 <jimerickson> ok
Aug 02 03:33:25 <jimerickson> its installing right now. no errors so far
Aug 02 03:33:35 <ogra_> good
Aug 02 03:34:15 <ogra_> i need to update the install docs on the wiki to actually explain that you need the SD for the bootloader ...
Aug 02 04:12:45 <jimerickson> well it made a 255 mb ext2 partition and the rest ext4. but no fat32. so it does not boot.
Aug 02 04:16:45 <jimerickson> ogra_, is there something else i am doing wrong?
Aug 02 04:27:21 <infinity> jimerickson: Hrm?  The vfat partition it uses to boot is on the SD card.
Aug 02 04:27:56 <jimerickson> ok then how do i stop it from booting to the installer?
Aug 02 04:28:09 <infinity> jimerickson: It overwrites the installer bits on the card.
Aug 02 04:28:39 <jimerickson> its not doing that. would you like syslog and partman?
Aug 02 04:29:01 <infinity> jimerickson: No, but ogra_ would love more info, I'm sure. :P
Aug 02 04:29:23 <jimerickson> ok
Aug 02 04:33:21 <jimerickson> infinity let me get this straight, the sdcard is the boot disk and i leave a usb stick in the hub to boot from now. no more installing to sdcard?
Aug 02 04:49:11 <jimerickson> nevermind i am confused.
Aug 02 05:50:47 <jimerickson> install halts with /dev/cdrom cannot be unmounted.
Aug 02 05:52:21 <GrueMaster> ogra_: mpls means I forgot to change the focus from irc to the terminal.  Happens.
Aug 02 06:22:14 <janimo> marvin24, on precise kernel+L4T work well indeed. I'll check a newer X
Aug 02 07:24:13 <Inoperable> howdy
Aug 02 07:24:19 <Inoperable> i got a strange problem on my device
Aug 02 07:24:44 <Inoperable> kernel freezes on changing the console
Aug 02 07:25:13 <Inoperable> when i try to change from tty1 to tty2
Aug 02 07:25:17 <Inoperable> happens not always
Aug 02 07:25:28 <Inoperable> but if system is under load almost always
Aug 02 08:19:02 <marvin24> janimo: I wrote you yesterday, that removing the xorg.conf (on debian) helps. This makes sense as in this case the framebuffer driver is used 8-(
Aug 02 08:39:12 <janimo> marvin24, ok. I have not upgraded to quantal or X 12 yet
Aug 02 08:39:27 <janimo> I need to make some more GLES measurements with known good setup
Aug 02 08:40:02 <marvin24> janimo: did you tried multi board support for 3.1?
Aug 02 08:40:07 <marvin24> that won't work
Aug 02 08:40:15 <janimo> yes, does not work
Aug 02 08:40:20 <janimo> do you know the reason?
Aug 02 08:40:57 <janimo> I fI build in paz00 config even with the actual board files not built-in the image (ifdefed out or removed from the makefile altogether) I get a non-booting zImage
Aug 02 08:41:01 <janimo> no idea why
Aug 02 08:42:07 <janimo> the only weird diff between the two symbol lists is setup_machine_tags gets a constprop.6 suffix in the PAZ00 enabled image
Aug 02 08:42:27 <janimo> on #tegra I was told multiboard setup in mainline 3.1 should work
Aug 02 08:51:23 <marvin24> janimo: the bootloader is a bit strange I think
Aug 02 08:51:40 <marvin24> it's not kernels fault
Aug 02 08:51:49 <marvin24> you could try u-boot though
Aug 02 08:53:15 <marvin24> mainline u-boot works out of the box on all nvidia boards (including paz00)
Aug 02 08:53:25 <janimo> I am trying to boot on tf101
Aug 02 08:53:32 <janimo> which fails if I add PAZ00 to the kernel
Aug 02 08:54:00 <janimo> so you think it is the bootloader? Does it do more than just pass a fixed machine ID and let the kernel run?
Aug 02 09:06:55 <marvin24> janimo: I think it reads the machine id from the kernel
Aug 02 09:07:08 <marvin24> at least on paz00
Aug 02 09:07:21 <marvin24> or does something else weird
Aug 02 09:08:09 <janimo> so much for having a standard way of bootloader->arm-kernel interface I guess?
Aug 02 09:09:01 <marvin24> janimo: fastboot was never designed to boot multiple machine kernels
Aug 02 09:09:23 <marvin24> each OEM has its own version, fit for a single device
Aug 02 09:09:37 <janimo> still, why would it not use the simple way of telling the kernel which mach id is it? To use same fastboot binary on multiple zImages?
Aug 02 09:09:49 <janimo> multiple devices that is
Aug 02 09:09:59 <marvin24> janimo: don't ask ...
Aug 02 09:10:21 <marvin24> all of the stuff which comes from nvidia is quick-and-dirty hack
Aug 02 09:10:43 <marvin24> that's the price you have to pay if you want to go quickly to market
Aug 02 09:10:59 <marvin24> you just cannot do it sane
Aug 02 09:11:15 <marvin24> we have to accept this
Aug 02 09:18:21 <janimo> marvin24, which exactly are the two issues you asked from nvidia? One is the plymouth crasher which we work around via console=tty1. The other?
Aug 02 09:18:36 <marvin24> segfault
Aug 02 09:18:48 <marvin24> nvidia seems to know about already and working on it
Aug 02 09:18:55 <marvin24> so we just have to wait ...
Aug 02 09:21:31 <janimo> ah, the X 12 ABI
Aug 02 09:24:51 <marvin24> janimo: if console=ttyS0,.... is specified, is the framebuffer console used at all?
Aug 02 09:25:11 <janimo> never tried that
Aug 02 09:25:20 <marvin24> I think that's a better workaround as it should also kill all the error messages still left
Aug 02 10:45:48 <lilstevie> marvin24, has anyone tried to figure out why all the unity stuff is transparent with unity-gles and the tegra drivers
Aug 02 10:46:44 <marvin24> lilstevie: I know it is not tegra specific
Aug 02 10:46:57 <marvin24> try xorg-edgers to find out :-)
Aug 02 10:47:41 <marvin24> I even don't know if it is driver or unity fault
Aug 02 10:47:48 <marvin24> and no one seems to care currently
Aug 02 10:48:14 <lilstevie> marvin24, heh I was more asking on the nvidia side of things
Aug 02 10:48:43 <lilstevie> I mean using unity-2d is no issue, just wondered if anyone actually knows what the issue is
Aug 02 10:48:45 <marvin24> and my answer is that it is propably not nvidias fault this time
Aug 02 10:49:04 <lilstevie> yeah, that was what ogra said the other day too
Aug 02 10:49:31 <lilstevie> nvidia doesn't exactly have an easy way to report bugs either :/
Aug 02 10:49:48 <marvin24> e.g. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1024768
Aug 02 10:49:49 <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1024768 in unity "[xorg-edgers] Missing icons in unity launcher and app switcher after update" [High,Confirmed]
Aug 02 10:50:12 <marvin24> lilstevie: yes, that's unfortune
Aug 02 10:50:59 <marvin24> on the other hand, sometimes you can grab an engineer on #tegra who has access to the internal bug reporting system
Aug 02 10:51:07 <lilstevie> hm
Aug 02 10:51:13 <lilstevie> I am not in #tegra :p
Aug 02 10:51:17 <marvin24> I just talk with someone
Aug 02 10:51:28 * lilstevie joins
Aug 02 10:51:52 <marvin24> he said that the two main problems we are facing on the ac100 (console and abi 12 segfault) are already known
Aug 02 10:51:57 <marvin24> and they are working on a fix
Aug 02 10:52:59 <lilstevie> ah cool
Aug 02 10:53:22 <lilstevie> I haven't tried quantal here yet, so I haven't seen abi12 issues
Aug 02 11:43:09 <janimo> infinity,  I was told by Jo Shields Sony has some armhf patch for mono which they do not intend to upstream though. I hope that is good for Debian then for the moment
Aug 02 11:43:54 <infinity> janimo: I don't care where the patch comes from, if we can ship it...
Aug 02 11:44:00 <infinity> (And if it works)
Aug 02 11:44:13 <janimo> well if Debian can ship it we can too
Aug 02 11:44:19 <janimo> I'd rather wait till they sort it out
Aug 02 11:44:26 <infinity> Well, yes.  I meant "if the license is free".
Aug 02 11:44:34 <janimo> yes, Jo said GPL
Aug 02 11:45:20 <infinity> Sounds shiny.  If it's not wildly unauditable, we can probably fix precise with it too.
Aug 02 11:46:57 <lilstevie> why wouldn't they want to upstream it
Aug 02 14:52:40 <ogra_> infinity, i would appreciate some comments (i surely forgot a few checks or so) http://paste.ubuntu.com/1125314/
Aug 02 14:53:12 <ogra_> (thats a wget initramfs script for dumping the images onto the SD and reboot into d-i/ubiquity)
Aug 02 14:53:36 <ogra_> i need to make sure it doesnt fall over once i left boston :)
Aug 02 14:54:54 <infinity> No DNS at that point in the boot, I guess?
Aug 02 14:55:09 <infinity> I guess if cdimage moves, they're smart enough to fix it.
Aug 02 14:55:18 <ogra_> yeah, i would have to add dns clients, but the image server is on the internal net anyway and wont change IP
Aug 02 14:55:40 <ogra_> and the imageurl option comes from the pxe config so its easily changeable
Aug 02 14:56:02 <infinity> imageurl=)  <-- ITYM imageurl=*)
Aug 02 14:56:21 <ogra_> oh, indeed !
Aug 02 14:56:59 <ogra_> funny that my test worked ... i shouldnt have had access ot cdimage during the test
Aug 02 14:57:26 <infinity> And ${imageurl=##} is much more readable than the form you used.
Aug 02 14:57:49 <ogra_> ok, i always steal that from the framebuffer script :)
Aug 02 14:57:58 <ogra_> we should fix it there too then ;)
Aug 02 14:58:01 <infinity> Or, wait, I could be on crack.
Aug 02 14:59:04 <infinity> I am, but so are you. :P
Aug 02 14:59:55 <ogra_> heh
Aug 02 15:00:27 <infinity> You want ${opt#*=}
Aug 02 15:00:34 <infinity> Which suddenly makes much more sense.
Aug 02 15:01:22 <ogra_> lol, yeah
Aug 02 15:01:32 * ogra_ blames jetlag :P
Aug 02 15:01:43 <infinity> And add a bs=4M to that dd(1) if you don't want it to take a week.
Aug 02 15:01:56 <ogra_> it takes about 3min
Aug 02 15:02:02 <ogra_> but yeah, adding it
Aug 02 15:02:15 <infinity> Assuming the dd in use takes bs=, but I imagine it does.
Aug 02 15:02:28 <ogra_> its the normal dd
Aug 02 15:02:33 <ogra_> no busybox stuff
Aug 02 15:02:53 <ogra_> ogra@horus:~/tmp$ ls -l bin/dd
Aug 02 15:02:53 <ogra_> -rwxr-xr-x 1 ogra ogra 3140 Aug  1 22:47 bin/dd
Aug 02 15:02:54 <infinity> Kay, other than that, looks okay.
Aug 02 15:03:01 <ogra_> great, thanks a lot
Aug 02 15:03:10 * ogra_ rolls the initrd and tries
Aug 02 15:03:21 <infinity> ogra_: That's the klibc dd, not the coreutils one.
Aug 02 15:03:35 <ogra_> oh, ok
Aug 02 15:03:42 <infinity> And it doesn't take bs=
Aug 02 15:03:43 <infinity> Just tested.
Aug 02 15:03:46 <infinity> So, don't do that. :P
Aug 02 15:03:48 <ogra_> we'll i'll know in a minute if it works
Aug 02 15:04:13 <ogra_> ah, k
Aug 02 15:04:15 <infinity> (base)adconrad@cthulhu:~$ /usr/lib/klibc/bin/dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null bs=4M
Aug 02 15:04:18 <infinity> /usr/lib/klibc/bin/dd: bad operand `bs=4M'
Aug 02 15:04:34 <infinity> Oh, wait, it just doesn't do the "M" bit.
Aug 02 15:04:39 <ogra_> well, it seems to use a decent blocksize by default ... else it wouldnt be that fast i suppose
Aug 02 15:04:57 <infinity> But yeah, 3m is fine.  Whatever. ;)
Aug 02 15:04:58 <ogra_> 3min are not bad for a 600M image
Aug 02 15:07:15 <ogra_> works like a charm :)
Aug 02 15:08:32 <ogra_> hmm, the ipconfig output actually shows the dns server
Aug 02 15:14:01 <ogra_> well, but userspace bits are missing ...
Aug 02 15:14:17 <infinity> Which userspace bits?
Aug 02 15:14:30 <ogra_>  /etc/resolv.conf ?
Aug 02 15:14:34 <ogra_> no idea
Aug 02 15:14:39 <infinity> Oh, if you're using a wget linked to glibc, yeah.
Aug 02 15:14:51 <infinity> klibc could resolve fine
Aug 02 15:14:59 <ogra_> ah
Aug 02 15:15:12 <ogra_> well, not worth the effort
Aug 02 15:15:21 <infinity> Probably not.
Aug 02 15:16:12 * ogra_ now has all bits ready for the automated testing ... just need to glue them together somehow now
Aug 02 15:32:55 <wookey> infinity: apt is definately borked WR sources.list arch qualifiers. lp#1032250
Aug 02 15:33:14 <wookey> I've seen it before, ages ago actually, but never really got to the bottom of it before
Aug 02 16:34:22 <GrueMaster> bug 1032250
Aug 02 16:34:23 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1032250 in apt "apt chooses wrong architecture if sources.list contains arch-qualified entries" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032250
Aug 02 16:34:52 <GrueMaster> much better.
Aug 02 16:36:24 <GrueMaster> ogra_: How goes the automation setup?
Aug 02 17:02:12 <ogra_> GrueMaster, well, all pieces are ready, just need to glue them together
Aug 02 17:02:24 <ogra_> (which i'm working on right now)
Aug 02 17:03:06 <GrueMaster> Well, when you are done sniffing glue, have a beer on me.  :P
Aug 02 17:05:31 <ogra_> hehe, will do
Aug 02 17:05:46 <ogra_> GrueMaster, your usbboot wikipage helped me a lot on monday btw, thanks for that
Aug 02 17:07:04 <GrueMaster> No problem.
Aug 02 17:07:28 <GrueMaster> Just wish I was still in the game (sometimes).
Aug 02 18:30:04 <janimo> ogra_, infinity is quantal's flash-kernel supposed to work on precise to with no issues?
Aug 02 18:30:42 <janimo> I need to modify it and I'd rather do it in quantal and then use the same in precise than touch two codebases - even if they may be similar enough
Aug 02 19:01:35 <janimo> lilstevie, do you know if the boot part on the asua can be made visible from the kernel?
Aug 02 19:02:07 <lilstevie> with a butchers knife
Aug 02 19:02:34 <lilstevie> aka hacky patch to the gpt driver
Aug 02 19:07:23 <janimo> lilstevie, as long as it works why not?
Aug 02 19:07:35 <janimo> wouldn't be the first hack in the tf kernel :)
Aug 02 19:08:58 <ogra_> there are hacks ?!?!
Aug 02 19:09:28 <ogra_> janimo, f-k from quantal will likely not work on precise withaout a lot of transitioing
Aug 02 19:09:47 <ogra_> comkpletely different places for all the configs etc
Aug 02 19:10:02 <janimo> ogra_, so it is not self-contained?
Aug 02 19:10:14 <ogra_> and with the switch to drop all boot.scr support you will need to transition to the new configs
Aug 02 19:10:30 <janimo> ogra_, but ok thanks will check precise's version then
Aug 02 19:10:34 <ogra_> (thats something i'm in the middle of in quantal)
Aug 02 19:11:08 <ogra_> if i'm done the postinst should auto-transition your configs, even on precise (since upgrades will have to work)
Aug 02 19:11:32 <ogra_> but thats something i earliest start mid next week
Aug 02 19:12:24 <ogra_> also f-k is currently broken for all but omap/omap4 in quantal
Aug 02 19:13:15 <ogra_> (there is a hack in place that i will revert as soon as infinity fixed live-installer)
Aug 02 20:21:15 <jimerickson> using the 2-Aug-2012 omap4+armhf image on a pandaboard ES. it boots to a black screen. sad panda.
Aug 02 20:22:24 <scientes> jimerickson, http://inotternews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/sad-panda-podiatrist_medium.jpg?dur=203
Aug 02 20:54:23 <ogra_> jimerickson, doesnt it come up with X if you wait long enough ?
Aug 02 20:54:45 <ogra_> that plymouth is broken is known, you get a black screen instead of a splash
Aug 02 20:54:55 <ogra_> but once X starts you should get display properly
Aug 02 21:27:34 <jimerickson> well i waited quite awhile now and still a black screen. i will zsync my image tonight and try again later.
Aug 03 00:16:09 <mturquette> i'm unable to install the xorg:omapdrm_pvr driver on my panda board
Aug 03 00:16:53 <mturquette> jockey-text --enable=xorg:omapdrm_pvr throws the usual "please look at /var/log/jockey.log"
Aug 03 00:18:13 <mturquette> anyone had luck with LEB 12.07?  (that's what i'm using)
Aug 03 01:25:23 <frrgwregw> Hi
Aug 03 01:25:52 <frrgwregw> I am trying to install Ubuntu on my Beaglebone A6 and I cannot seem to do it from my mac
Aug 03 01:26:08 <frrgwregw> I haven't found any documentation on this..
Aug 03 01:26:11 <frrgwregw> Any help?
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