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Oct 15 13:03:01 <XavB> fabo: Hi, I am having a look to the ubuntu-build-service git tree and I am trying to "play" with quantal-armhf-ubuntu-desktop. I have installed the packages/live-build_3.0~a47-1_all.deb from the tree, but when I run configure I have: unrecognized option '--hostname'  andunrecognized option '--username'
Oct 15 13:03:08 <XavB> fabo: is it expected?
Oct 15 13:15:40 <fabo> XavB: yes, live-build 3.0a45 is required
Oct 15 13:16:09 <fabo> XavB: I need to update the configs to latest live-build but it wasn't a high prio
Oct 15 13:16:55 <XavB> fabo: thx for the answer, to play with the tool, I have just removed hostname and username in a first stage...
Oct 15 13:17:30 <XavB> fabo: can you give me the most "up to date" wiki doc about lb?
Oct 15 13:18:04 <fabo> XavB: I should drop a47 from the tree to avoid confusion
Oct 15 13:19:26 <fabo> XavB: best doc is upstream > http://live.debian.net/manual-3.x/
Oct 15 13:19:54 <fabo> everything else is straight forward as we use pristine live-build
Oct 15 13:20:30 <fabo> XavB: feel free to poke for any questions
Oct 15 13:30:13 <XavB> fabo: ok, so the config is up to date, I am just missing a new version of live-build, correct? I looked for the last build on linaro-maintainers/tools ppa, but only 45 is there...
Oct 15 13:30:59 <XavB> thx for the doc link
Oct 15 13:41:48 <ppisati> rsalveti: lp 1065902
Oct 15 13:41:48 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1065902 in linux-ti-omap4 "black/blue screen before installer, tty switch fixes it" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1065902
Oct 15 13:42:00 <ppisati> rsalveti: do you think we have any chance to get a fix for that?
Oct 15 13:42:08 <ppisati> rsalveti: before release i mean
Oct 15 13:53:30 <fabo> XavB: correct
Oct 15 13:54:12 <rsalveti> ppisati: I'll check if a newer driver improves that, but I'm unable to reproduce this issue with my pandas
Oct 15 13:54:13 <fabo> XavB: take the one coming from the git repo
Oct 15 13:54:23 <rsalveti> ppisati: which panda are you using? (rev, es x normal)
Oct 15 13:54:30 <ppisati> rsalveti: panda es
Oct 15 13:54:46 <rsalveti> seems the issue is just happening on a quite recent panda rev
Oct 15 13:54:54 <rsalveti> which is known to TI
Oct 15 13:55:25 <ppisati> rsalveti: and did they fix it?
Oct 15 13:55:35 <rsalveti> nops
Oct 15 13:55:36 <ppisati> ogra_: which panda do you have?
Oct 15 13:55:57 <ogra_> EA1, several ESes
Oct 15 13:56:21 <ogra_> and i think one was called an A1 (older one first gen)
Oct 15 13:56:30 <ppisati> i've other pandas here, i can check if it appears with every of them
Oct 15 13:56:35 * ppisati tries
Oct 15 13:56:59 <ogra_> it doesnt appear on mine
Oct 15 13:57:07 <ppisati> ogra_: are you sure?
Oct 15 13:57:13 <ppisati> ogra_: did yoiu try beta2?
Oct 15 13:57:19 <ogra_> the only screen issue i have is the green screen on dpms
Oct 15 13:57:24 <ogra_> indeed i did
Oct 15 13:57:37 <ogra_> but i dont need to switch ttys fo rthe green stuff
Oct 15 13:57:51 <ogra_> i also did test the recent dailies
Oct 15 13:57:56 <rsalveti> yeah, seems to be related with a more recent rev
Oct 15 13:58:09 <rsalveti> I installed the image just a few days ago, without any issues
Oct 15 13:58:55 <ogra_> same for me
Oct 15 13:59:08 <ogra_> all recent images i tried were fine apart from the dpms stuff
Oct 15 13:59:26 <ogra_> (and the webkit breakage)
Oct 15 14:00:34 * ppisati tries a panda reva4
Oct 15 14:01:39 <ppisati> i've the same problem
Oct 15 14:01:57 <ppisati> panda reva4
Oct 15 14:04:10 * ogra_ uses HDMI all the way btw
Oct 15 14:04:22 <ogra_> no adapters, no DVI involved here
Oct 15 14:05:15 <ppisati> i'm attached to the port closest to the nic
Oct 15 14:05:21 <ppisati> i tried with and without adapter
Oct 15 14:05:28 <ppisati> (i've a dvi to vga adapter)
Oct 15 14:05:45 <ppisati> and in both cases, with a panda rev.a4 i get a black screen
Oct 15 14:07:45 <ogra_> but you dont have a plain HDMI monitor you could use ?
Oct 15 14:08:09 <ogra_> port closest to the nic is HDMI
Oct 15 14:08:34 <ogra_> if oyu use DVI on the monitor dside you need to use the other port
Oct 15 14:09:12 <ppisati> ogra_: no, vga and dvi input-p input
Oct 15 14:09:21 <ppisati> ogra_: i've always used that port and it has always worked
Oct 15 14:09:27 <ogra_> hmm, k
Oct 15 14:09:31 * ppisati tries with the other port
Oct 15 14:14:11 <ppisati> ok, using tje other port i get a displat but it's like 800x600
Oct 15 14:14:17 <ppisati> jsalisbury: ^
Oct 15 14:14:31 <ppisati> ogra_: anyhow, can you add your findinds to the bug report?
Oct 15 14:14:39 <ppisati> rsalveti: anyhow, can you add your findinds to the bug report?
Oct 15 14:14:53 * ppisati tries again with the ES
Oct 15 14:25:07 <jsalisbury> ppisati, I can give it a try too
Oct 15 14:27:07 <ppisati> ok, connecting to my tv (native hdmi) it works
Oct 15 14:30:56 <jsalisbury> ppisati, I don't get any display at all when using the other(HDMI) port.  Even if I switch ttys
Oct 15 14:31:06 <ppisati> jsalisbury: wait
Oct 15 14:31:12 <jsalisbury> ppisati, ack
Oct 15 14:31:13 <ppisati> jsalisbury: it takes longer
Oct 15 14:31:25 <jsalisbury> ppisati, ahh ok.
Oct 15 14:31:30 <ppisati> jsalisbury: i get a display, but with a crappy resoltion like 800x600
Oct 15 14:32:00 <ppisati> jsalisbury: while attaching the board to a device with a native hdmi port (my plasma tv), i get the video output ok
Oct 15 14:32:12 <ppisati> jsalisbury: your monitor has a dvi input, right?
Oct 15 14:32:47 <jsalisbury> ppisati, correct.  I use the DVI port on the panda.  Then I have a HDMI cable that attaches to a HDMI->DVI converter
Oct 15 14:32:56 <ppisati> jsalisbury: same here
Oct 15 14:33:43 <ppisati> jsalisbury: so the 3d driver changed "something" and we can't use the hdmi port (the one closest to the usb tower+nic) anymore
Oct 15 14:33:52 <ppisati> jsalisbury: did you get a video output now?
Oct 15 14:34:04 <jsalisbury> ppisati, just restarted and waiting still
Oct 15 14:35:03 <ogra_> ppisati, i'm using the HDMI port just fine ... it might be that HDMI->DVI doesnt work though
Oct 15 14:35:30 <ppisati> ogra_: you use the hdmi port with an hdmi monitor?
Oct 15 14:35:34 <ogra_> yes
Oct 15 14:35:40 <ogra_> straight
Oct 15 14:35:44 <ppisati> ogra_: the cable/converter has worked fine so far
Oct 15 14:35:52 <ppisati> ogra_: same here, it's just a cable
Oct 15 14:35:56 <ppisati> i've another i can try that
Oct 15 14:36:01 <ppisati> *another cable
Oct 15 14:36:08 <ogra_> your TV works you say ?
Oct 15 14:36:30 <rsalveti> my hdmi is working just fine
Oct 15 14:36:33 <rsalveti> at es and 4430
Oct 15 14:37:04 <ppisati> yes, with my tv everyhing was ok
Oct 15 14:37:25 <ogra_> rightm, so its only DVI that has issues
Oct 15 14:37:29 <ogra_> one way or the other
Oct 15 14:37:45 <ppisati> well, two persons with the same issue
Oct 15 14:37:52 <ppisati> sounds weird at least
Oct 15 14:37:53 <ogra_> on DVI
Oct 15 14:38:08 <ppisati> ogra_: i've used this setup since... maverick?
Oct 15 14:38:13 <ppisati> ogra_: no prob at all
Oct 15 14:38:19 <ogra_> sure
Oct 15 14:38:23 <ogra_> but a lot changed
Oct 15 14:38:46 <ppisati> yeah, but people who will try Q will still use the same setup
Oct 15 14:38:56 <ogra_> there is a new xserver-xorg-video-omap we use now for exapmple
Oct 15 14:39:11 <ogra_> that pvr driver made a leap jump version wise
Oct 15 14:39:21 <ogra_> and there is new DSS code in the kernel
Oct 15 14:39:31 <ppisati> ok, but if it worked before IMO it's a bug
Oct 15 14:39:46 <ogra_> i dont say it isnt :)
Oct 15 14:39:50 <ppisati> we can't just say "use a device with a native hdmi"
Oct 15 14:39:59 <ogra_> we can
Oct 15 14:40:10 <ogra_> well, we actually have to if it doesnt get fixed in time :)
Oct 15 14:41:40 <ppisati> i'll update the lp bug with my findings
Oct 15 14:42:00 <jsalisbury> ppisati, Using the HDMI port, I did eventually get the login screen.  However, after logging in, the screen went blank and never came back
Oct 15 14:42:44 <ogra_> thats with a recent desktop image ?
Oct 15 14:43:20 <jsalisbury> Thats with the daily image from the 11th
Oct 15 14:44:10 <ppisati> i'm using autologin
Oct 15 14:44:23 <ppisati> ah
Oct 15 14:44:32 <ppisati> it goes black if i leave it idle
Oct 15 14:44:40 <ppisati> uhm
Oct 15 14:44:55 <jsalisbury> ppisati, hmm, I cant switch to any other ttys either
Oct 15 14:45:30 <xnox> ogra_: bug 1066880
Oct 15 14:45:30 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1066880 in ubiquity "12.10 Beta 2 arm image acts like an ISO not like 12.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066880
Oct 15 14:45:37 <ogra_> jsalisbury, the daily desktop image from the 11th still had the webkit breakage, how did you install it ?
Oct 15 14:47:00 <jsalisbury> ogra_,  The usual way.  I dd'd the image to the sd card, powered up and access the installer.
Oct 15 14:47:20 <ogra_> hmm, k
Oct 15 14:47:46 <jsalisbury> ogra_, I ran into this other bug we are talking about now, but not the webkit breakage
Oct 15 14:48:15 <ogra_> well, webkits bnreakage was when the installer dies right after the user setup page
Oct 15 14:53:27 <st3fan> so my pandaboard with 12.10 keeps hanging/crashing .. what can i do to debug this?
Oct 15 14:54:24 <st3fan> this morning it was frozen in xscreensaver
Oct 15 14:54:29 <ppisati> jsalisbury: bug updated
Oct 15 14:54:53 <jsalisbury> ppisati, ack
Oct 15 14:55:18 * ppisati tries with another cable, just in case
Oct 15 14:56:25 <ogra_> st3fan, xscreensaver ? we dont install that ...
Oct 15 15:00:36 <st3fan> ogra_: it is a not an xscreensaver problem .. i've also had many of the same same freezes on an idle unity desktop
Oct 15 15:01:27 <st3fan> i have a console hooked up to the serial port but it only prints 'Booting kernel' and then goes silent. Is there a way to get all kernel diagnostics out there?
Oct 15 15:01:34 <ogra_> well, my board was last installed on friday and idled over rthe weekend, no such issue here
Oct 15 15:02:05 <ogra_> yes, drop quiet from /etc/default/flash-kernel and run sudo flash-kernel
Oct 15 15:02:17 <ogra_> that should print all rteh kernel messages
Oct 15 15:03:02 <st3fan> cool i will try that
Oct 15 15:03:11 <ogra_> oh, wait, you said serial
Oct 15 15:03:15 <st3fan> yes
Oct 15 15:03:27 <ogra_> you also want to add: console=ttyO2,115200n8
Oct 15 15:03:36 <ogra_> the redirects the output to serial
Oct 15 15:03:44 <ogra_> same file, same line
Oct 15 15:03:45 <st3fan> also in flash-kernel?
Oct 15 15:03:48 <ogra_> yes
Oct 15 15:03:58 <st3fan> i'm at work now but i will try tonight
Oct 15 15:04:03 <ogra_> just replace "quiet" with the console option
Oct 15 15:04:07 <st3fan> yup
Oct 15 15:05:44 <st3fan> what does flash-kernel do?
Oct 15 15:08:34 <st3fan> is the kernel loaded from flash storage on the pandaboard?
Oct 15 15:10:46 <ogra_> there is no flash in pandaboards
Oct 15 15:10:53 <ogra_> the kernel comes from your SD card
Oct 15 15:11:35 <ogra_> flash-kernel originally only used flash this the name ... but with other methods showing up it also flashes to SD or whatever your board requires
Oct 15 15:11:45 <ogra_> s/this/thus/
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