**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 24 03:00:01 2012 Oct 24 06:58:13 lilstevie: I heard a rumour that tf101 works perfectly now and I should man up and reflash it. Is that true? Oct 24 13:27:58 I installed ubuntu-server to a beagleboard-xm. When I am connected to the board via the serial port at the first time (kernel building). The screen layout is too messed up http://i46.tinypic.com/34fog0p.png I use "screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200 8N1" and minicom to connect the board but each time I get that messy screen. Can anyone tell me how I can fix it? Oct 24 13:29:09 angs: are you sure your serial cable is ok? Oct 24 13:29:42 angs: are weird Oct 24 13:29:53 angs: two things: Oct 24 13:29:59 angs: are you sure hw is ok? Oct 24 13:30:17 angs: second: try with cu - cu -s 115200 -l /dev/ttyUSB0 Oct 24 13:30:38 angs: usually that kind of garbage means wrong settings, or bad hw Oct 24 13:30:45 angs: ah, and check the serial cable too Oct 24 13:34:03 suihkulokki, ppisati: yes cable is broken. although it was a new cable that I bought recently. Thank you for your help Oct 24 13:40:49 attention, complaint: i installed yesterday netinstaller filed under 13.04 on my panda but it still call itself 12.04! that makes me feel way less 1337!!!1!one!!!eleven Oct 24 13:40:52 *SCNR* Oct 24 13:41:03 (12.10, sry:P ) Oct 24 13:41:42 file a bug ;) Oct 24 13:44:15 LetoThe2nd: Calls itself 12.04 where? Oct 24 13:44:49 infinity: sry, 12.10 ;) in the issue and usb-release...? at least thats what methinks. Oct 24 13:44:58 (just remembered it for the sake of trolling ;)) Oct 24 13:45:21 LetoThe2nd: Oh, you mean 13.04 is calling itself 12.10? dist-upgrade. Oct 24 13:45:44 infinity: yeah exactly. 13.04 is calling itself 12.10. Oct 24 13:45:47 LetoThe2nd: I updated base-files almost two days ago, it should be fine. Oct 24 13:45:58 (base)adconrad@cthulhu:~/build/debian-installer$ lsb_release -a Oct 24 13:45:58 No LSB modules are available. Oct 24 13:45:58 Distributor ID: Ubuntu Oct 24 13:45:58 Description: Ubuntu Raring Ringtail (development branch) Oct 24 13:45:58 Release: 13.04 Oct 24 13:46:00 Codename: raring Oct 24 13:46:17 infinity: i see. will try then probably tonight when i'm at home :P Oct 24 13:46:24 LetoThe2nd: d-i itself may be wrong in some bits until we rebuild it, but the installed system should be right. Oct 24 13:46:53 Oh, wait. Oct 24 13:46:54 Hahaha. Oct 24 13:47:01 No, if you installed with d-i, you installed 12.10. :P Oct 24 13:47:08 it also seems to point to qq sources... Oct 24 13:47:13 Since that's just a copy of the d-i from 12.10 Oct 24 13:47:16 Yeah, exactly. Oct 24 13:47:16 infinity: i did. netinstall, d-i Oct 24 13:47:23 We just haven't rebuilt the installer yet, that's all. Oct 24 13:47:33 s/quantal/raring/ in sources.list and dist-upgrade, and you're there. Oct 24 13:47:34 *trolltrolltroll* too slow you are! Oct 24 13:47:42 makes me feel way less version 1337 Oct 24 13:48:06 *SCNR* Oct 24 13:48:19 will give it a try then :) Oct 24 14:24:31 QUESTION : I asked question at UbuntuOpenWeek for contributing to Ubuntu For ARM. They advised me to get feedback here. May I know how to get started Oct 24 14:25:59 puneri: best place to start is probably looking at arm team bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-arm Oct 24 14:26:45 suihkulokki : Thanks. Prowess needed to resolve bugs ? Oct 24 14:27:24 QUESTION : I have STM32F4DISCOVERY with me, possible to port Ubuntu For ARM ? Oct 24 14:29:57 puneri: not for beginners, and even hard for experts. Oct 24 14:30:30 plus one would probably need one or two thousand years for the recompile on an v7m ;) Oct 24 14:45:58 QUESTION : What are armel and armhf ? Are these something specific for ubuntu arm ? Oct 24 14:46:18 they are abis Oct 24 14:47:37 armel = arm eabi little endian ... Oct 24 14:47:52 armhf = arm eabi with hardfloat support Oct 24 14:47:54 ok. thanks. Oct 24 14:48:08 armel = arm eabi little endian, and uses a softfp Oct 24 14:48:13 ogra_ got it Oct 24 14:48:19 damn my slow typing :p Oct 24 14:48:28 haha Oct 24 14:48:35 and i'm even in a neeting Oct 24 14:48:40 *meeting Oct 24 14:49:08 I had to turn a tap off in the kitchen half way through though so I didn't flood my water filter Oct 24 14:49:23 but eh, still could have typed faster Oct 24 14:49:24 :p Oct 24 14:53:34 hm, I have to say, I do not like one of the new features in 12.10 (this isn't arm though really, noticed it on my desktop) is showing the battery levels of my bluetooth devices (keyboard and mouse) as if they were device batteries Oct 24 14:59:50 lilstevie: Actually, that is quite handy (but would be nice if it could be disabled). Oct 24 15:01:21 lilstevie, it always monitored these values Oct 24 15:01:32 since the very first release of gnome-power-manager Oct 24 15:01:44 they probably changed the display ppolicies upstream Oct 24 15:08:42 GrueMaster, it is how it displays it that is the problem Oct 24 15:08:45 as a laptop battery Oct 24 15:10:31 Ah. Oct 24 15:15:19 QUESTION : Sorry, However on Ubuntu ARM Bugs section I'm not able to understand anything. Help please to get started ? Oct 24 15:53:22 lilstevie: Bugs are filed already about the presentation being misleading/confusing. Oct 24 15:53:36 lilstevie: (But the feature is cool, once they sort out not making it look silly) Oct 24 15:55:42 infinity, :) I do agree the feature is cool, it is just how it is presented, actually something I would say <=12.04 was missing was an easy way to see levels, but last thing I want is gpower sending my computer to sleep for a flat mouse battery :p Oct 24 15:57:09 lilstevie: It shouldn't sleep if the mouse battery dies, it's just that the display prioritises showing you whichever battery is lower which, when your laptop is charged, will pretty much always be the mouse/keyboard/whatever. Oct 24 15:57:51 lilstevie: If you start running your laptop flat, the laptop battery should suddenly become the one displayed. Oct 24 15:58:17 lilstevie: (But yes, both wildly unintuitive and confusing) Oct 24 15:58:37 lilstevie: There are probably other bugs filed, but you might want to add your 2 bits to bug 1066208 Oct 24 15:58:37 Launchpad bug 1066208 in gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Battery indicator shows mouse battery instead of notebook battery" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066208 Oct 24 15:59:09 lilstevie: Assuming you have some bikeshed ideas about how to do it more sanely. Oct 24 15:59:45 (I'd probably personally just refrain from swapping the indicator to a peripheral battery until the peripheral was at 5% or something) Oct 24 16:00:09 But even that would need some obvious indicator that it wasn't your laptop battery dying. Oct 24 22:41:55 janimo: Looks like you accidentally repurposed bug 1068733 for 3.2.0 (it was meant to be for 3.5.0), you might want to take the actual 3.2.0 bug 1068573 and use it for 3.5.0, I guess. :P Oct 24 22:41:56 Launchpad bug 1068733 in linux-armadaxp (Ubuntu) "linux-armadaxp: 3.2.0-1610.15 -proposed tracker" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1068733 Oct 24 22:41:57 Launchpad bug 1068573 in linux-armadaxp (Ubuntu) "linux-armadaxp: -proposed tracker" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1068573 Oct 24 23:12:44 someone tell where to find the python module 'util'. (yes, I feel stupid asking this question) Oct 24 23:19:01 OK, been told. Oct 25 00:26:50 infinity, I don't have a laptop battery, cause it is a desktop, it is displaying the bt mouse and bt keyboard batteries as laptop batteries, to the point where power statistics labels them "Laptop Battery" Oct 25 00:41:20 lilstevie : Heh, I've had that problem Oct 25 01:27:25 could we change the topic to mention raspbian rather than debian for pi users? While it's possible to run debian armel on the Pi it's distinctly suboptimal Oct 25 01:37:01 right Oct 25 01:37:17 maybe should be "Try #raspbian" Oct 25 01:37:20 to redirect users properly **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Oct 25 03:00:00 2012