**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 03 02:59:59 2012
Dec 03 07:52:33 <dholbach> good morning
Dec 03 08:19:34 <feasty> morning dholbach
Dec 03 08:19:41 <dholbach> hey feasty
Dec 03 08:20:14 <feasty> Cheers for the email the other day.
Dec 03 08:24:10 <dholbach> thank YOU
Dec 03 08:24:22 <dholbach> I'll reply to it in a bit - just finishing up some other small bits
Dec 03 08:25:19 <feasty> Hey no worries.
Dec 03 09:14:44 <hrw> hello
Dec 03 09:16:26 <smartboyhw> hello
Dec 03 09:24:45 <feasty> hey
Dec 03 10:57:50 <xnox> ogra-cb_: so i get initramfs busybox from the nexus boot/rootfs on cdimage.
Dec 03 10:58:17 <xnox> ogra-cb_: and I haven't been able to boot a single one off cdimage so far (as far as i remember)
Dec 03 10:58:36 <xnox> the one from hwe still works... but I do use the 16GB specific image there.
Dec 03 11:23:13 <ogra_> xnox, how did you install ?
Dec 03 11:24:38 <hrw> ogra_: does unity 3d works on opengles?
Dec 03 11:25:15 <ogra_> hrw, sure
Dec 03 11:25:22 <ogra_> else nexus7 wouldnt be possible
Dec 03 11:26:08 <hrw> ogra_: someone complains for chromebook: https://bugs.launchpad.net/chromebook-arm/+bug/1085596
Dec 03 11:26:09 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1085596 in Cross distro support for Samsung Chromebook (ARM based) "Graphics acceleration not working in ubuntu desktop 12.10" [Undecided,New]
Dec 03 11:26:50 <ogra_> yes, seems the GLES driver doesnt offer all features, you can force it to GLES though but that will still render parts in SW
Dec 03 11:27:09 <ogra_> though its fast enough to be usable even with that
Dec 03 11:27:38 <hrw> nux-tools has a tool to check it iirc?
Dec 03 11:28:24 <ogra_> yes, and that seems toi be bugy
Dec 03 11:28:27 <ogra_> *buggy
Dec 03 11:28:47 <ogra_> xnox, just installing the latest daily here, seems to work fine so far
Dec 03 11:29:15 <ogra_> zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/current/raring-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+nexus7.img.gz.zsync
Dec 03 11:29:21 <ogra_> zcat raring-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+nexus7.img.gz >raring-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+nexus7.img
Dec 03 11:29:27 <ogra_> sudo fastboot erase boot
Dec 03 11:29:30 <ogra_> sudo fastboot erase userdata
Dec 03 11:29:38 <ogra_> sudo fastboot flash userdata raring-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+nexus7.img
Dec 03 11:29:44 <ogra_> sudo fastboot flash boot raring-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+nexus7.bootimg
Dec 03 11:29:49 <ogra_> sudo fastboot reboot
Dec 03 11:30:08 <ogra_> xnox, thats my installation preocess, there is no reason it shouldnt work for you the same way
Dec 03 11:30:15 <ogra_> *process
Dec 03 11:30:42 <mjrosenb> odd, my chromebook does not seem to ant to update to 12.10
Dec 03 11:30:53 <mjrosenb> it seems to really like 12.04
Dec 03 11:31:10 <ogra_> mjrosenb, you need to tell update-manager that you want to run non LTS releases
Dec 03 11:31:18 <mjrosenb> did that already
Dec 03 11:31:27 <ogra_> (somewhere in /etc/default)
Dec 03 11:31:40 <mjrosenb> oh, I think I did it through the gui.
Dec 03 11:31:53 <ogra_> well, should be the same
Dec 03 11:32:42 * mjrosenb verifies that he did this...
Dec 03 11:32:56 <hrw> mjrosenb: I wish you lack with alsa mixer then
Dec 03 11:33:01 <hrw> s/lack/luck
Dec 03 11:33:29 <ogra_> it is actually in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
Dec 03 11:33:46 <hrw> mjrosenb: when you will start playing with alsa mixer switches be aware of smoke possibilities
Dec 03 11:33:54 <mjrosenb> hrw: alsamixer isn't currently working, so upgrading can't hurt.
Dec 03 11:34:04 <xnox> ogra_: I'll purge my downloads and redownload just in case.
Dec 03 11:34:10 <mjrosenb> hrw: "smoke possibilities"?
Dec 03 11:34:31 <ogra_> xnox, on the 16G model it should still work, it just wont use all of the available diskspace
Dec 03 11:34:40 <hrw> mjrosenb: many people (including me) already fried speakers in chromebook
Dec 03 11:34:47 <ogra_> mjrosenb, you can blow up the speakers apparently
Dec 03 11:35:01 <mjrosenb> neato.
Dec 03 11:35:11 <hrw> mjrosenb: smoke, melted plastic etc
Dec 03 11:35:18 <hrw> and lot of heat of course
Dec 03 11:35:25 <mjrosenb> I usually leave my laptop's speakers muted, so unless that option is inverted...
Dec 03 11:35:48 <hrw> it is a bit more complicated
Dec 03 11:38:32 * ogra_ is in oem-config
Dec 03 11:41:14 <ogra_> gah
Dec 03 11:41:29 <ogra_> the WLAN paswword input field doesnt take any input
Dec 03 11:43:52 <ogra_> xnox, hmm, i thinnk compiz screws up onboard here
Dec 03 11:44:18 <ogra_> i can provide the wlan PW via the NW applet ... but not through the installer
Dec 03 11:44:19 <xnox> ogra_: interesting.
Dec 03 11:44:27 <ogra_> and now i cant type in my name
Dec 03 11:45:34 <ogra_> fridays image worked though
Dec 03 11:46:23 <ogra_> sigh
Dec 03 11:46:35 <ogra_> not being able to create a user is kind of a blocker
Dec 03 11:46:56 * ogra_ reboots
Dec 03 11:49:49 <ogra_> ah, better, a reboot fixed it (though probably because i didnt need to configure the wlan this time)
Dec 03 11:56:38 <hrw> ogra_: which keymap does ac100 uses?
Dec 03 11:56:51 <hrw> ogra_: kernel one, own xkb one, generic xkb one?
Dec 03 11:57:02 <ogra_> consoilesetup as every ub untu out there
Dec 03 11:57:10 <ogra_> *console-setup
Dec 03 11:57:39 <ogra_> nexus7 install finished ... no issues beyond the kbd input stuff above
Dec 03 11:59:20 <hrw> ogra_: console-setup is just a package.
Dec 03 12:00:56 <ogra_> yes, the package conatining all kbd and console font related setup bits
Dec 03 12:01:48 <ogra_> it uses keyboard-configuration, xkb-data and kbd in the backend
Dec 03 12:03:43 <hrw> ok, but did you added ac100 specific keymap or not had to?
Dec 03 12:04:22 <ogra_> why would i `
Dec 03 12:04:42 <hrw> ok
Dec 03 12:05:32 <hrw> I am wondering how to handle chromebook keyboard. default keymap under chromium has set of useful mappings (pgup/down home/end) which are missing under ubuntu
Dec 03 12:59:29 <ppisati> ok, this is weird
Dec 03 12:59:46 <ppisati> i've a package (oprofile) that was removed in precise
Dec 03 12:59:51 <ppisati> but later was reintroduced
Dec 03 12:59:58 <ppisati> but was only built for armel
Dec 03 12:59:59 <ppisati> ?!?!
Dec 03 13:00:03 <ppisati> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oprofile/
Dec 03 13:00:41 <ppisati> here is the Q version
Dec 03 13:00:47 <ogra-cb> likely debian/control messed up
Dec 03 13:01:01 <ppisati> showing that it was only built for i386/amd64 and armel
Dec 03 13:01:04 <ppisati> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oprofile/0.9.8-0ubuntu1
Dec 03 13:01:36 <ogra-cb> check debian/control if it is "Architecture: any"
Dec 03 13:01:49 <ogra-cb> (it should)
Dec 03 13:02:28 <ppisati> nope
Dec 03 13:02:36 <ppisati> Architecture: alpha amd64 arm armel hppa i386 ia64 mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 sparc
Dec 03 13:02:59 <ogra-cb> yeah. fix that then :)
Dec 03 13:03:02 <ppisati> adding armhf should be enough
Dec 03 13:03:25 <ogra-cb> well, it defines all available arches anyway
Dec 03 13:03:42 <ogra-cb> so "Architecture: any" would be proper
Dec 03 13:03:49 <ppisati> yeah, "any" is probably better
Dec 03 13:51:46 <ppisati> actually it's more than this
Dec 03 13:51:52 <ppisati> the importer fails
Dec 03 13:51:57 <ppisati> http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/oprofile.html
Dec 03 13:52:08 <ppisati> bah
Dec 03 13:52:20 <janimo> ogra-cb, do you know what could have bringed and empty  /lib/modules/3.5.0-213-omap4/ on the nexus7?
Dec 03 13:52:40 <janimo> I only noticed it now, no idea which package brought it
Dec 03 13:52:56 <ppisati> weird
Dec 03 13:53:00 <janimo> I suppose it's not via the default install. It only had a build symlink in it
Dec 03 13:53:25 <ogra-cb> ppisati, well, bug 653312 shows some activity at least
Dec 03 13:53:25 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 653312 in Ubuntu Distributed Development "Import fails with NoSuchRevision" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/653312
Dec 03 13:53:34 <ogra-cb> ppisati, make some noise there :)
Dec 03 13:53:57 <ogra-cb> janimo, headers most likely
Dec 03 13:55:38 <ogra-cb> 3.1.10-8-nexus7  3.5.0-215-omap4
Dec 03 13:55:39 <ogra-cb> ogra@nexus7:~$ dpkg -S /lib/modules/3.5.0-215-omap4
Dec 03 13:55:39 <ogra-cb> linux-headers-3.5.0-215-omap4: /lib/modules/3.5.0-215-omap4
Dec 03 13:55:40 <ogra-cb> yeah
Dec 03 13:56:31 <ogra-cb> ogra@nexus7:~$ apt-cache show linux-headers-3.5.0-215-omap4|grep Task
Dec 03 13:56:31 <ogra-cb> Task: ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-usb, edubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-usb
Dec 03 16:26:47 <ogra-cb> ppisati, err, whats that about disabling ondemand +
Dec 03 16:26:49 <ogra-cb> ?
Dec 03 16:27:09 <ppisati> ondemand is broken in P
Dec 03 16:27:11 <ppisati> or actually
Dec 03 16:27:17 <ppisati> cpufreq was broken back then
Dec 03 16:27:27 <ppisati> in fact the default scheduler is performance
Dec 03 16:27:59 <ppisati> but there's one guy insisting in using ondemand
Dec 03 16:28:08 <ogra-cb> cant be, i never had a simgle issue with that
Dec 03 16:28:15 <ppisati> so i decided to swith it off completely
Dec 03 16:28:18 <ppisati> precise?
Dec 03 16:28:19 <ogra-cb> and thats an essential ubuntu default
Dec 03 16:28:27 <ppisati> no, it's not
Dec 03 16:28:34 <ogra-cb> natty to raring
Dec 03 16:28:51 <ppisati> here is the original bug
Dec 03 16:28:54 <ppisati> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ti-omap4/+bug/971091
Dec 03 16:28:54 <ogra-cb> ppisati, yes, we forcefully set it in userspace since 2008
Dec 03 16:28:54 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 971091 in Linaro-Ubuntu "Pandaboard ES freezes with the default CPU scaling governor ondemand" [Medium,Fix committed]
Dec 03 16:29:15 <ogra-cb> i know, i see the bug (you mention it in the merge request too)
Dec 03 16:29:53 <ppisati> comment #16 says "AFAIK this should be solved in tilt-3.4, the problem was coming from frequency update code which should now be in good shape."
Dec 03 16:29:55 <ogra-cb> if you disable it in kernel, did you test how the userspace bits behave if the module is nonexisting ?
Dec 03 16:30:02 <ppisati> wait
Dec 03 16:30:13 <ppisati> i'm not using on demand on my boards
Dec 03 16:30:23 <ppisati> i mean, no one forces it
Dec 03 16:30:39 <ogra-cb> afaik the only prob we ever had with ondemand vs perfocmance that was actiually traceable against cpufreq was when we switched to cpuidle for a short period in precise
Dec 03 16:30:51 <ogra-cb> ppisati, see the init scripts
Dec 03 16:32:11 <ogra-cb> specifically /etc/init.d/ondemand
Dec 03 16:32:57 <ppisati> ogra-cb: wait
Dec 03 16:33:40 <tassadar_> ogra-cb: will 12.10 ubuntu for nexus7 receive any updates or will you update only raring now?
Dec 03 16:34:21 <ogra-cb> tassadar_, *i* wont touch quantal (but i also havent touched it since UDS)
Dec 03 16:34:57 <ogra-cb> tassadar_, quantal is a very evil hacked up demo image that shoouldnt actually be used for more than demoing or looking at bugs
Dec 03 16:35:18 <ogra-cb> raring recieves all the love
Dec 03 16:37:08 <tassadar_> okay, thanks, one more annoying question: I would like ubuntu to be able to use some folder in /data/media/ as root folder and to be able to use .img file from flash drive as /. Is there a chance that modification like that would get into official ubuntu packages, if it is clean&properly done?
Dec 03 16:38:07 <ogra-cb> yes, i think i told you about the work in grub that linaro is doing
Dec 03 16:38:24 <ogra-cb> thats exactly using such a setup
Dec 03 16:38:54 <ogra-cb> using grub for a boot menu, then lupin for mounting an img
Dec 03 16:40:07 <ogra-cb> atter all i would still suggest to just use the recovery partition, apply two minot changes to the userspace and be done though
Dec 03 16:40:15 <ogra-cb> *minor
Dec 03 16:40:54 <tassadar_> I don't want to lose recovery :/
Dec 03 16:40:56 <ogra-cb> (ita auper trivial)
Dec 03 16:41:07 <ogra-cb> *its super ...
Dec 03 16:41:28 * ogra-cb cant see his keys in the dark
Dec 03 16:42:05 <ogra-cb> you can even do dual boot with the current images with a minor modificatio
Dec 03 16:42:08 <ogra-cb> n
Dec 03 16:42:30 <tassadar_> ...continue...)
Dec 03 16:42:41 <ogra-cb> ?
Dec 03 16:42:57 <tassadar_> what exactly do you mean by minor modification
Dec 03 16:43:23 <ogra-cb> well, flash bootimg to recovery and develop a patch for flash-kernel to respect that
Dec 03 16:43:43 <ogra-cb> thats all dual boot needs
Dec 03 16:44:38 <ogra-cb> ppisati, is there no way to fix it in kernel ?
Dec 03 16:44:53 <tassadar_> well, now that kexec-hardboot support is in n7 kernel, I can just use files from /boot folder in Ubuntu's root, which is awesome
Dec 03 16:44:55 <ogra-cb> instead of chopping out the option
Dec 03 16:44:58 <ppisati> ogra-cb: the fix is "somewhere" is tilt-3.4
Dec 03 16:45:13 <ppisati> ogra-cb: so it could be anywhere
Dec 03 16:45:19 <ogra-cb> tassadar_, that wont save you, it will berak on the fist run of update-initramfs
Dec 03 16:45:39 <tassadar_> yes, I'll have to remove the flash-kernel hook
Dec 03 16:46:03 <ogra-cb> which you really want to keep in case someone uses i.e. an encrypted homedir
Dec 03 16:47:08 <ogra-cb> tassadar_, if you want to avoid flashing, tra to have a file that exports FLASH_KERNEL_SKIP on boot
Dec 03 16:47:18 <ogra-cb> (set it to something indeed)
Dec 03 16:47:22 <ogra-cb> that should save you
Dec 03 16:47:41 <ogra-cb> thats better than removing packaged files
Dec 03 16:47:51 <tassadar_> yeah, saw that in the hooks, that will indeed be better
Dec 03 16:47:59 <ogra-cb> (they have a tendency to re-appear) ;)
Dec 03 16:50:50 <ppisati> ogra-cb: anyhow, if you try to use a governor that is not available, it's a noop
Dec 03 16:50:57 <ogra-cb> k
Dec 03 16:51:08 <ogra-cb> still, its an ubuntu default we dont offer
Dec 03 16:51:39 <ogra-cb> also are we sure the thing wont overheat if it permanently runs at full speed ?
Dec 03 16:51:53 <ppisati> either we do this, or we have to disable cpufreq
Dec 03 16:52:32 <ogra-cb> which means full power anyway and bigger changes
Dec 03 16:53:15 <ogra-cb> well, seems there is no way around unless we offer a backported kernel then :/
Dec 03 16:54:48 <ppisati> ogra-cb: btw, i was pretty sure i asked what our builders were running, and i was told it was performance
Dec 03 16:55:23 <ogra-cb> ppisati, ah, could be, i think they use ubuntu-core or something similar, that might not ship these userspace bits
Dec 03 16:55:52 <ppisati> ogra-cb: so if they don't melt, i'm good with performance
Dec 03 16:56:22 <ogra-cb> heh, k
Dec 03 16:56:54 <ogra-cb> infinity, so whats your plan wrt nexus7 and flavours
Dec 03 16:57:16 <infinity> Not sure I have one.
Dec 03 16:57:20 <ogra-cb> currently an ubuntu desktop build takes 130-150min
Dec 03 16:57:58 <ogra-cb> if we switch doing tarball post processing on nusakan i guess we could get to 90min or so
Dec 03 16:58:55 <ogra-cb> i have definitive requests from kubuntu. lubuntu and edubuntu
Dec 03 16:59:15 <ogra-cb> and would like to provide something for them by A2 time
Dec 03 16:59:25 <infinity> We'll have to talk about it in a bit, then.
Dec 03 16:59:33 <infinity> It may require bringing up another buildd.
Dec 03 16:59:50 <ogra-cb> do you think there are chances for simply getting a second builder in place
Dec 03 16:59:57 <ogra-cb> ah, snap
Dec 03 17:13:38 <whatissixbynine> sup sup
Dec 03 17:17:43 <whatissixbynine> I've got a galaxy s3 i9300 (exynos 4212 quad core version, 1gb ram, no lte). Would like to get this going for it.. any advice?
Dec 03 17:19:48 <whatissixbynine> 4412 i meant, sorry!
Dec 03 17:41:29 <whatissixbynine> :/
Dec 03 18:01:50 <whatissixbynine> jeez guys
Dec 03 18:02:05 <whatissixbynine> how ya gonna pick up momentum if no one is ever around ;_;
Dec 03 18:05:05 * ogra-cb sees 178 people in the channel
Dec 03 18:06:56 <ogra-cb> whatissixbynine, usually people react to questions in this channel, you should probably ask yours :)
Dec 03 18:07:36 <whatissixbynine> [09:18] <whatissixbynine> I've got a galaxy s3 i9300 (exynos 4212 quad core version, 1gb ram, no lte). Would like to get this going for it.. any advice?
Dec 03 18:07:57 <ogra-cb> thats not a question is it ?
Dec 03 18:08:19 <whatissixbynine> sure looks like it to me o.O
Dec 03 18:08:40 <ogra-cb> what exactlyy do you want to know ?
Dec 03 18:08:41 <whatissixbynine> its enough information to correctly ident it (was 4412 rather than 4212 cpu btw)
Dec 03 18:08:59 <ogra-cb> we dont offer any images for phones
Dec 03 18:09:11 <whatissixbynine> well, i don't see an ubuntu for general exynos, but i do see one for odroid-x
Dec 03 18:09:12 <ogra-cb> so its up to you
Dec 03 18:09:21 <ogra-cb> the userspace can surely run on that HW
Dec 03 18:09:25 <whatissixbynine> there was a great project with the motorola, vids and such, calls and texts working
Dec 03 18:09:49 <ogra-cb> not from here though
Dec 03 18:10:08 <whatissixbynine> so your saying that no one bothered to pull the stuff in?
Dec 03 18:10:20 <ogra-cb> there is a commercial project from canonical, if you mean ubuntu for android
Dec 03 18:10:31 <whatissixbynine> hm
Dec 03 18:10:45 <ogra-cb> of which there is nothing more available than these videos
Dec 03 18:11:01 <xnox> publically that is.
Dec 03 18:11:17 <ogra-cb> ubuntu-arm offrers current;y images for panda and beagleboard as well as the nexus7 tablet and the ac100 netbook
Dec 03 18:11:40 <ogra-cb> if you want anything else you need to build it
Dec 03 18:12:14 <ogra-cb> (oh, and i forgot highbank and armadaxp arches on server)
Dec 03 18:12:20 <whatissixbynine> hm
Dec 03 18:12:56 <whatissixbynine> yeah i figured i would have to build it, but i thought i could take something like the odroid and hack it towards this. anyway not sure how to start.
Dec 03 18:12:59 <whatissixbynine> so
Dec 03 18:13:18 <whatissixbynine> Would like to get this going for it.. any advice? where do i start?
Dec 03 18:13:33 <whatissixbynine> I can get chroot working, and i don't like it. vnc sucks.
Dec 03 18:13:40 <ogra-cb> well, userspace is usuallz always the same in ubuntu-arm
Dec 03 18:13:41 <whatissixbynine> just its crashing is a dealbreaker
Dec 03 18:14:13 * xnox is not sure what "odroid" is that you are talking about.
Dec 03 18:14:17 <whatissixbynine> the ubuntu for android is what I am looking for
Dec 03 18:14:24 <ogra-cb> so you need to know how to modify the bootloader and shoudl provide your own kernel
Dec 03 18:14:30 <whatissixbynine> http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/main.php
Dec 03 18:14:36 <ogra-cb> ubuntu for android only exists in videos
Dec 03 18:15:14 <whatissixbynine> ok, so the repos for the packages i want arn't open source or openly available?
Dec 03 18:15:27 <ogra-cb> no idea if there are repos
Dec 03 18:15:40 <ogra-cb> there is surely code, but yeah, thats not public yet
Dec 03 18:15:43 <whatissixbynine> i dont really care if i got to build from scratch, i'm looking for a guide or howto or something
Dec 03 18:15:54 <ogra-cb> well, there is nothing yet
Dec 03 18:16:13 <whatissixbynine> well, how does one go about porting arm to a new device?
Dec 03 18:16:16 <whatissixbynine> one that's NOT new
Dec 03 18:16:27 <whatissixbynine> 99% of what i need driver wise should be in the odroid image
Dec 03 18:16:32 <ogra-cb> well, userspace is usually ported :)
Dec 03 18:16:45 <whatissixbynine> ?
Dec 03 18:16:52 <whatissixbynine> no comprende
Dec 03 18:16:54 <ogra-cb> as long as you have an ARMv7 device all of ubuntu will just run
Dec 03 18:17:21 <whatissixbynine> yes it is
Dec 03 18:17:55 <ogra-cb> what you need to get your specific device going is ehough insight into the bootloader and boot process and your own kernel build
Dec 03 18:18:03 <whatissixbynine> give me a sec
Dec 03 18:18:05 <ogra-cb> (as i said above a few lines)
Dec 03 18:18:06 <whatissixbynine> i'm having trouble with ur head
Dec 03 18:20:30 <ogra-cb> all of ubuntu is built and available for ARMv7 ... if you have a working setup you can just apt-get install whatever you want ... not different to any intel PC
Dec 03 18:20:45 <ogra-cb> but whats not in ubuntu is any support for your device
Dec 03 18:20:52 <ogra-cb> (bootloader and kernel)
Dec 03 18:21:16 <ogra-cb> everything above bootloader and kernel level is already there and usable ...
Dec 03 18:21:33 <ogra-cb> so to enable your device you need to get these two bits working
Dec 03 18:26:21 <whatissixbynine> ok
Dec 03 18:26:31 <whatissixbynine> that makes a bit more sense
Dec 03 18:27:24 <whatissixbynine> when I chroot into it, and do the vnc type install, that does not create an acceptable kernel/bootloader?
Dec 03 18:27:31 <whatissixbynine> that's actually a vm?
Dec 03 18:27:49 <ogra-cb> no, that uses the android kernel and bootloader
Dec 03 18:28:00 <ogra-cb> its a chroot, a VM emulates a machine
Dec 03 18:28:18 <whatissixbynine> right, thought so
Dec 03 18:28:20 <ogra-cb> the chroot just uses the android and runs an ubuntu rootfs inside
Dec 03 18:28:34 <ogra-cb> whcih also means that various bits indeed wont work
Dec 03 18:28:36 <whatissixbynine> got it
Dec 03 18:37:02 <whatissixbynine> hm
Dec 03 19:07:05 <Ethernin> yeah it would be great if you could just install full arm ubuntu with it's own kernel on android phones...
Dec 03 19:07:16 <Ethernin> like the Nexus 7
Dec 03 19:08:00 <whatissixbynine> yes
Dec 03 19:14:23 <whatissixbynine> Ethernin, it really should be possible. very annoying that it's even this hard. even more annoying that there's little to no open projects for porting to new devices
Dec 03 19:16:42 <RaYmAn> It's not hard at all. Getting basic linux/debian/ubuntu running on any arm device where you can flash your own kernel is trivial..Getting it running good is a whole other matter of course.
Dec 03 19:20:44 <whatissixbynine> RaYmAn, ok now your talking sir!
Dec 03 19:21:06 <whatissixbynine> i have ability to dual boot into secondary rom, so initially i would slam in there
Dec 03 19:21:21 <whatissixbynine> running good may indeed take a lot more, but i would be happy to get a start on
Dec 03 19:21:45 <whatissixbynine> currently downloading the android sammy source for my i9300 and gonna try to slam the linux image from odroid inside it
Dec 03 19:22:33 <RaYmAn> usually the easiest is just a couple of steps. 1) get a standard rootfs that doesn't start anything graphical - disable plymouth.Put it on an sdcard 2) build a kernel with fbconsole enabled and point cmdline at sdcard. fbcon should give some info
Dec 03 19:23:31 <whatissixbynine> not sure at all what i'm doing at this point, but i suppose i could update yall as we go
Dec 03 19:24:18 <whatissixbynine> right
Dec 03 19:33:34 <slangasek> hey, anyone here who could help with a gdb-multiarch issue?
Dec 03 19:37:36 <slangasek> am trying to run gdb-multiarch on x86_64 against an Ubuntu armhf corefile + executable; I swear this used to work, but I never remember quite how to do it so I'm not sure if gdb has regressed or if I'm just missing the magic option
Dec 04 01:54:47 <mjrosenb> so I'm trying to update my chromebook to 12.10
Dec 04 01:55:03 <mjrosenb> and it is failing due to a checksum mismatch
Dec 04 01:55:06 <mjrosenb> W:Failed to fetch
Dec 04 01:55:07 <mjrosenb> gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ports.ubuntu.com_ubuntu-ports_dists_quantal_main_binary-armhf_Packages
Dec 04 02:02:52 <persia> Try again now (it's been 5 minutes).  That usually means a mirror goes wonky, which is usually solved shortly for the mirrors identified by "ports.ubuntu.com"
Dec 04 02:11:45 <mjrosenb> I tried at like noon, and was getting it then
Dec 04 02:11:49 * mjrosenb tries again
Dec 04 02:12:57 <mjrosenb> nopepe, still there
Dec 04 02:13:00 <mjrosenb> s/pe//
Dec 04 02:41:14 <mjrosenb> any other suggestions?
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