**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 15 02:59:58 2013 Jan 15 03:02:13 Hmm... Stock kernel source isn't happy with native compiler... Jan 15 03:02:35 Looks like it was designed with the NDK compiler in mind. Jan 15 03:17:24 does anyone know which TI omap PPA I should us for pandaboard? I'm currently running 12.04 and I installed the TI extras which now causes great instability Jan 15 03:17:32 my board crashes under heavy network load Jan 15 03:29:50 jj234: Are you sure you needed TI extras at all? Jan 15 03:30:00 no, not at all Jan 15 03:30:02 jj234: Other than some accelerated codecs, it's entirely unnecessary. Jan 15 03:30:22 I guess I thought maybe there had been some kernel improvements Jan 15 03:30:49 i saw an article comparing 12.10 to 12.04 with impressive improements Jan 15 03:30:53 improvements Jan 15 03:31:02 Sure, then run 12.10 with the Ubuntu kernel. Jan 15 03:31:29 I really do want the codecs though...at least down the roda Jan 15 03:31:30 road Jan 15 03:32:00 All, well then. You may be stuck with the kernel's in TI's PPA. Unless their 12.10 PPA was built to use the distro kernel, I can't recall anymore. Jan 15 03:32:26 I don't believe it was Jan 15 03:32:41 someone in #pandaboard told me their PPA has problems, but I couldn't really confirm Jan 15 03:32:57 and that there are several of them, and that I need to make sure I use the correct one...again, I can't really confirm Jan 15 04:56:36 Rjs: good that you got it working Jan 15 07:19:02 hi, all! I have a question about nexus 7: I can suspend this device from Unity, but how can I suspend it from console? Jan 15 07:24:54 reisei: pm-suspend Jan 15 07:26:18 infinity: it's waking up immediately D: Jan 15 07:27:06 reisei: Ahh well, that, I might not be able to help with while I'm heading off to bed. Jan 15 07:27:09 Hello, I would like to test an armhf rootfs I built but I can't find a qemu + kernel combo that can mount it Jan 15 07:28:13 does anyone have a suggestion for -M option that would give me vga and be able to access a disk image? Jan 15 07:29:23 infinity: okay then... Jan 15 07:40:57 What can be wrong with suspend if nexus 7 wakes up immediately? Jan 15 07:42:20 try something like: sleep 1 && pm-suspend ? Jan 15 07:51:24 kulve: that didn't work. Jan 15 07:57:57 reisei: i know whats wrong Jan 15 07:57:59 :) Jan 15 07:58:09 its easy enough to fix Jan 15 08:08:33 raster: so, how can I fix it? Jan 15 08:08:45 raster: and what's wrong? :) Jan 15 08:10:59 muahahhahaha Jan 15 08:11:09 * raster dangles the carrot in front of reisei Jan 15 08:11:21 so close Jan 15 08:11:22 and yet... Jan 15 08:11:24 so far Jan 15 08:11:40 * raster eats his cake Jan 15 08:13:15 aaah ok enuf with the theatrics Jan 15 08:13:17 rfkill Jan 15 08:13:24 suspend happens to not kill wifi Jan 15 08:13:27 wifi stays on Jan 15 08:13:32 wifi interrupt wakes entire os Jan 15 08:13:39 the moment any packet pops up on the network Jan 15 08:13:44 u need to rfkill before suspend Jan 15 08:18:30 raster: thank you, it works Jan 15 08:25:15 raster: and did wake-on-wlan work? Jan 15 09:10:44 reisei: i havent tried wake on wlan Jan 15 09:10:52 u mean send it a special wake on lan packet? Jan 15 09:12:47 WoL over wireless? How can that work when you're no longer connected to the AP? Jan 15 09:15:39 "- Standby Mode Only - Because wireless clients must remain connected to the BSS at all times, standby mode is the lowest power state supported. Hibernation or full power off states will not work because no power is provided to the wireless NIC to maintain network association." Jan 15 09:15:49 Look at that. WoWLAN exists. Jan 15 09:15:54 And it's as awful as I suspected. Jan 15 09:17:30 raster: yes, the special packet. Jan 15 09:18:48 nup Jan 15 09:18:50 havent tried/bothered Jan 15 09:18:55 thus rfkill is good enough for me Jan 15 09:18:56 :) Jan 15 09:19:52 It's not likely to be something you can do unless the wireless is on the SoC either. If it's actually a USB part or something, there's about a 0 chance that it gets power when the machine's in standby. Jan 15 09:20:37 (And even if it *does* live close enough to the SoC to be technically possible, it needs hardware support for the feature) Jan 15 09:20:41 infinity: it was developed by some people. Jan 15 09:21:00 I thought it supported in Ubuntu. Jan 15 09:21:11 reisei: Yeah, I just spent the last 10 minutes reading up on the spec/standard. Jan 15 09:21:33 reisei: Software support isn't enough for WoWLAN, it's very hardware-dependent. Jan 15 09:22:17 (Remember the old days when you couldn't do WoL without your PCI nic having a little power cable snaking to you motherboard? Yeah. That pain, all over again.) Jan 15 09:25:35 nd lucky for me... i dont need wowlan ... Jan 15 09:25:39 so i dont need to care Jan 15 09:25:45 infinity: but it also needs this function be supported in drivers. Jan 15 09:25:49 all i care is that when my n7 suspends. it suspends and damned well stays that way Jan 15 09:25:52 :) Jan 15 09:26:14 raster: even if you press the button? Jan 15 09:26:20 i'm much more worried about the lack of vsynced gl rendering in thetegrat3 drivers Jan 15 09:26:20 Har har. Jan 15 09:26:35 and i have a sneaking suspicion that they do copies and not buffer swaps Jan 15 09:26:45 that lack of vsync offends me highly Jan 15 09:26:56 reisei: well power button wakes it up -= that i want :) Jan 15 09:27:04 :) Jan 15 09:29:28 also playing mp3s is nasty Jan 15 09:29:36 its skip-heaven Jan 15 09:29:45 gst seems to be happy to use the hw decoder to do it Jan 15 09:29:52 it still eats thru cpu along the way Jan 15 09:30:19 and is an awesome skippathon with the cpu freq jumping about like a rubber crazy-ball Jan 15 09:30:37 i so need some time to sink some love into my n7 and sort things out Jan 15 09:32:29 by the way, how can I make the system image file? It contains just rootfs? Jan 15 09:32:48 * raster shrugs Jan 15 09:32:50 durno Jan 15 09:52:45 nobody knows :( Jan 15 09:56:04 someone does Jan 15 09:56:12 they just arent here and talking to you :) Jan 15 10:00:49 so, then I'll keep asking :) Jan 15 13:11:09 please-please, tell me, how can I make my own image file for nexus 7... Jan 15 13:17:12 debootsrap Jan 15 13:18:09 kulve: but how can I pack it? Jan 15 13:20:10 I don't know the details how ubuntu creates it's images. I do my own rootfs (usually not ubuntu based) and I just copy the rootfs Jan 15 13:22:03 kulve: how do yo copy it? Jan 15 13:23:30 I use the moslo stuff mentioned here: http://ruedigergad.com/2013/01/08/new-rootfs-tarball-of-plasma-active-for-nexus-7/ With that you can just mount the partition over usb and then do whatever you want with it Jan 15 13:24:13 actually it's this post: http://ruedigergad.com/2012/12/21/plasma-active-for-nexus-7-running-the-touch-optimized-plasma-active-linux-distribution-on-nexus-7/ Jan 15 13:28:44 I do need more simple way of flashing the system. I just need to create the image for my purposes with the preinstalled packages.. Jan 15 13:30:07 why is the creation of image such a big secret? :) Jan 15 13:31:23 I believe it's not secret, there just isn't a simple way to create a full blown rootfs Jan 15 13:31:39 is not a secret, its just that nobody ever takes the time to properly document it for endusers Jan 15 13:32:07 rootfs is built using livecd-rootfs which in turn is a wrapper to live-build Jan 15 13:32:40 post processing (bootability, partitioning an image if needed etc) is done by debian-cd Jan 15 13:33:07 publishing, naming and post processing for publication (torrents or so) is done by cdimage Jan 15 13:33:22 code for all of them is on launchpad (see the ubuntu-cdimage team) Jan 15 13:34:55 for creating the nexus7 rootfs tarball see the livecd-rootfs source Jan 15 13:36:01 ogra_: thank you very much! You helped me. I'll go now and read the manuals :) Jan 15 13:36:14 i dont think there are manuals Jan 15 13:36:22 the source code is the doc :) Jan 15 13:37:00 ogra_: d'oh Jan 15 13:37:16 it's okay too :) Jan 15 13:37:47 apt-get source livecd-rootfs ----> cd to source ---> grep -r nexus7 * Jan 15 13:37:59 (note thats only in the raring source package) Jan 15 13:40:07 ogra_: ok... if I'll be in trouble, can I ask you again?:) Jan 15 13:40:13 sure Jan 15 13:40:28 ogra_: thank you! Jan 15 13:40:31 reisei: maybe you should document your steps while at it ;) Jan 15 13:42:34 kulve: that's not a bad idea :) I should try... Jan 15 18:55:50 hi! Jan 15 18:56:20 I've installed 12.10 on a pandaboard Jan 15 18:56:43 booting the installer on the SD card, and installing on a SD via USB Jan 15 18:57:18 is there a way to remove the installer SD and use the one with the install directly? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jan 16 02:59:59 2013