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Jan 20 09:19:26 <purezen> Hey guys..!! I am planning to get the Samsung ARM chromebook to run Ubuntu.. would that be worth doing..??
Jan 20 09:19:49 <purezen> Any limitations I might face...?
Jan 20 10:14:52 <infinity> purezen: We don't officially (or unofficially) support it, and don't ship a kernel or installer for it, but several people are using it nonetheless.  hrw is a good person to ask about it.
Jan 20 10:24:15 <mvt007geek> well...i am downloaded an ubuntu-12.04-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+omap4 .then i used "dd" to write image on sdcard.after that i connected sdcard to pandaboard.my pandaboard has a monitor connected to it.but it seems monitor is not working.so i decided to test pandaboard to make sure it is working well or not and i downloaded "validation" from pandasite.then i used "dd" to wrote validation on pandaboard but it need a serial port to show me the results
Jan 20 10:36:29 <mvt007geek> my serial port seems not work
Jan 20 10:40:43 <infinity> mvt007geek: How did you write the image?
Jan 20 10:41:10 <infinity> mvt007geek: "zcat ubuntu-whatever.img.gz | sudo dd of=/dev/sdb bs=4M"
Jan 20 10:41:31 <mvt007geek>    	 	 	 	 	 	    dd if=ubuntu-12.04-preinstalled-desktop-armel+omap4.img of=/dev/sdb
Jan 20 10:42:12 <infinity> Oh, you unzipped it first?  So you have a huge image sitting on your hard drive?
Jan 20 10:42:36 <infinity> Also, that paste says armel, not armhf.
Jan 20 10:43:07 <infinity> Which is kinda impossible, we had no armel images for 12.04
Jan 20 10:43:50 <mvt007geek> infinity: complete name is ubuntu-12.04-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+omap4    this is what i downloaded from site and also did checksum on it
Jan 20 10:44:23 <infinity> That's not the complete name.  Does it end in .img or .img.gz?
Jan 20 10:45:13 <mvt007geek> yes. .img after zipping///////.img.gz befor zipping
Jan 20 10:45:48 <infinity> Alright, there's no reason that shouldn't work, then.  Works here just fine.
Jan 20 10:46:02 <infinity> Using the HDMI port closest to the USB (not the other one).
Jan 20 10:47:11 <mvt007geek> ok
Jan 20 10:47:13 <mvt007geek> i did
Jan 20 10:47:20 <mvt007geek> before
Jan 20 10:47:57 <infinity> Anyhow, you really should plug something into the serial and have a look.
Jan 20 10:48:05 <infinity> Even with our images, the early boot outputs to serial.
Jan 20 10:48:15 <infinity> Since uBoot has no idea how to turn on the HDMI.
Jan 20 10:49:01 <mvt007geek> which one i use? minicom?kermit? or picocom
Jan 20 10:49:03 <mvt007geek> ?
Jan 20 10:49:42 <infinity> I use screen.
Jan 20 10:50:00 <infinity> screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200
Jan 20 10:50:57 <mvt007geek> right now i installed it.
Jan 20 10:50:59 <mvt007geek> and..
Jan 20 10:52:34 <mvt007geek> i use a usb to serial cable.one head connected to pc number1 another head to pc number2
Jan 20 10:52:50 <mvt007geek> infinity: screen is installed in pc1
Jan 20 10:52:54 <infinity> So do I.  Hence why I said /dev/ttyUSB0
Jan 20 10:53:42 <mvt007geek> what command i should use for screen?
Jan 20 10:53:51 <mvt007geek> i am so strange to screen
Jan 20 10:54:20 <infinity> "screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200"
Jan 20 10:54:33 <infinity> I feel like I might be repeating myself.
Jan 20 10:55:56 <mvt007geek> well.i did that command.what is next step?
Jan 20 10:56:24 <infinity> Plug in your Panda's power? :P
Jan 20 10:57:07 <mvt007geek> now serial port is into pc number2 as i told.shoud i plug it out?
Jan 20 10:57:25 <infinity> Err.  I assumed "pc2" was your Panda...
Jan 20 10:57:43 <infinity> Which would sort of make some sense if you intend to talk to the Panda via serial.
Jan 20 10:59:03 <mvt007geek> no problem i will connect it to panda :)
Jan 20 11:05:30 <mvt007geek> i did this.what is next step
Jan 20 11:06:20 <mvt007geek> infinity:
Jan 20 11:07:51 <infinity> ...
Jan 20 11:08:01 <mvt007geek> infinity: screen shows me nothing.
Jan 20 11:08:09 <mvt007geek> only white page
Jan 20 11:08:11 <infinity> What did it say when you ran it?
Jan 20 11:08:26 <mvt007geek> screen??
Jan 20 11:08:34 <mvt007geek> screen told nothing
Jan 20 11:08:56 <infinity> Just an empty screen with a blinking cursor?
Jan 20 11:08:59 <infinity> If so, that's fine.
Jan 20 11:09:21 <infinity> So, make sure the SD card is in your Panda, pull the power, and plug the power back in.
Jan 20 11:09:32 <infinity> You should seem some uBoot output.  And it loading a kernel.
Jan 20 11:09:33 <infinity> Etc.
Jan 20 11:10:33 <mvt007geek> still nothing :(
Jan 20 11:10:48 <infinity> Jigge the card, reseat it, power-cycle again.
Jan 20 11:11:10 <infinity> If it doesn't even see uBoot, you've either written the image wrong or your card is bad, or your Panda is broken.
Jan 20 11:12:17 <mvt007geek> no.it shows nothing. let's try pcnumber2
Jan 20 11:12:35 <mvt007geek> should i reboot that pc again?
Jan 20 11:12:47 <infinity> Erm.
Jan 20 11:12:51 <infinity> The Pandaboard, nor your PC.
Jan 20 11:12:54 <infinity> s/nor/not/
Jan 20 11:13:15 <mvt007geek> what?
Jan 20 11:14:42 <mvt007geek> infinity: u mean i don't connect pc2 to pc1?
Jan 20 11:25:05 <purezen> infinity: Hey..!! thanks there..:) ok.. I particularly needed some headers to get it working and its current state..
Jan 20 11:25:54 <infinity> purezen: I'm not much help, since I don't own one and have thus not been paying attention but, like I said, hrw might be of help.
Jan 20 11:26:01 <infinity> Or his blog may have pointers, if you dig.
Jan 20 11:26:13 <infinity> http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/
Jan 20 11:27:26 <purezen> infinity: well.. thanks for that.. and right right now he doesnt look available.. shall I pm him..?
Jan 20 11:28:33 <infinity> purezen: I'm not his secretary, I can't say.  But sure, go nuts. :P
Jan 20 11:28:58 <infinity> (Do read the Chromebook entries in his blog, though, he may answer some of your questions there)
Jan 20 11:29:33 <kulve> how do you set the IP for usb0 for nexus7 with g_multi?
Jan 20 11:29:43 <kulve> I might copy the same logic for my rootfs
Jan 20 11:31:21 <purezen> infinity: ok.. :D :D .. will do that.. thanks again..:)
Jan 20 12:01:29 <wookey> xnox: I tried using dh_autoreconf but it doesn't seem to work. just do "dh  $@  --with-autoreconf", right? Doesn;t work for json-c for me
Jan 20 12:02:35 <wookey> http://people.linaro.org/~wookey/buildd/raring-arm64/json-c_0.10-1.2-raring-arm64-20130120-1050.log
Jan 20 12:02:55 <wookey> what am I doing wrong?
Jan 20 12:04:32 <infinity> wookey: "--with autoreconf"
Jan 20 12:04:35 <infinity> wookey: No dash.
Jan 20 12:07:35 <infinity> wookey: "--wish-autoreconf" isn't a dh(1) option, so it'll just pass it down to all the sub-dh modules (as you see it doing).
Jan 20 12:08:08 <infinity> wookey: "--with foo,bar,baz", however, means "include dh_foo, dh_bar, and dh_baz in the list of fancy things you do"
Jan 20 12:08:22 <infinity> s/wish/with/
Jan 20 12:09:11 <wookey> aha. cheers
Jan 20 12:09:36 <wookey> doh
Jan 20 13:21:25 <mvt007geek> what is the best way to write an arm image (ubuntu) into sdcard?
Jan 20 13:22:40 <mvt007geek> i used dd but serial port doesn't show it and it don't boot when i put sdcard in pandaboard. is there a good software to do that?
Jan 20 14:20:39 <cobalt60> mvt007geek welcome to the wonderful world of Linux on ARM
Jan 20 14:22:56 <robclark> rsalveti (or anyone), I don't suppose there is a working gnome-shell somewhere for 12.10?  http://pastie.org/pastes/5735819/text
Jan 20 14:48:27 <Rjs> kulve: my solution to setting the IP is to have something like this in /etc/network/interfaces: auto usb0\niface usb0 inet static\n  address 10.1.2.3\n  netmask 255.255.255.0
Jan 20 14:49:36 <Rjs> (possibly also set gateway 10.1.2.1 if you want a default route through it - I mostly just use a http proxy on the same 10.1.2.x network so a default route is not needed)
Jan 20 14:52:37 <Rjs> and I have something similar on the computer(s) that I connect the nexus7 to: iface usb0 inet static\n  address 10.1.2.1\n  netmask 255.255.255.0
Jan 20 14:54:35 <kulve> Rjs: thanks but my rootfs (Mer based) doesn't parse /etc/network/interfaces. I'm looking for e.g. udev rules that run a script when usb0 emerges
Jan 20 14:56:33 <lilstevie> kulve: you should probably ask Mer support
Jan 20 14:58:07 <Rjs> kulve: hmm, at least for me the interface seems to exist all the time after the gadget driver is loaded, regardless of whether the usb port is connected to something not - so maybe you might as well run the script just once after the driver is loaded
Jan 20 15:00:17 <Rjs> (as long as you don't set a default gateway, it shouldn't be a problem that the extra interface is up even though it isn't connected to anything - except that the IP network you configure for it it should be private enough that it doesn't clash with anything you use elsewhere)
Jan 20 15:01:28 <Rjs> at least I haven't had any problems with this kind of setup on my openmoko gta02 (whose g_ether gadget driver also behaves like that)...
Jan 20 15:02:19 <kulve> basically I need to make sure that the script that loads the g_multi is run before the script that sets up the IP. That's why an udev based thing would have been nice
Jan 20 15:03:13 <kulve> but nm, I'm sure I'll find something from the google :)
Jan 20 15:09:05 <Rjs> ok :) I've not done much with udev so I'm not quite sure how it works... from a quick glance, I think that debian stable (which I happen to be using now) has a rule in /lib/udev/rules.d/80-drivers.rules to run /lib/udev/net.agent which is a shell script that runs ifup or ifdown as necessary
Jan 20 15:09:13 <Rjs> maybe Mer has something similar, I don't know...
Jan 20 15:09:35 <kulve> maybe this could work: "KERNEL=="usb0", ACTION=="add", RUN+="ifconfig usb0 192.168.2.15 up"
Jan 20 15:09:46 <kulve> bbl
Jan 20 16:12:48 <_Takashi_> Hi, just flash the latest raring on a nexus7, the screen isnt't drawn correctely at all and it's stuck at system config, does anyone else had the same problem. Thanks in advance .
Jan 20 17:33:05 <magart> Anyone here using Ubuntu on their Nexus 7?
Jan 20 17:34:28 <Tassadar> magart: I think you can presume that at least one of 146 people on this channel does
Jan 20 17:34:30 <Tassadar> :)
Jan 20 17:36:22 <magart> ;)) I'm looking for a way to solve the touch problem. Basically whatever you touch, the OS then sticks to it so you can't switch between windows or click some buttons.
Jan 20 17:37:27 <magart> Also it would be nice to know if there's a place where a changelog is kept so I know what was changed each day (because there is a new image every day).
Jan 20 17:38:32 <Tassadar> well, the thing with touch is known and reported bug in X - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-nexus7/+bug/1068994
Jan 20 17:38:34 <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1068994 in ubuntu-nexus7 "button1 gets stuck after a while" [Critical,Confirmed]
Jan 20 17:56:49 <magart> how can you enable meatcity on Nexus 7?
Jan 20 17:56:58 <magart> I meant metacity* :)
Jan 20 18:50:44 <cobalt60> Metacity?  How about IceWM-Lite?
Jan 20 18:51:59 <cobalt60> or OpenBox if you prefer GUI config tools
Jan 20 19:02:23 <magart> Yea...whatever. How do you enable them?
Jan 20 19:02:56 <Tassadar> just install them like on normal desktop ubuntu I would guess
Jan 20 19:13:49 <robclark> anyone know what package /usr/bin/jockey-gtk is in?  dpkg-query -L jocky-gtk only lists /usr/share/doc/... for me
Jan 20 19:14:26 <robclark> (not sure if that is anything to do with why gnome-session --session=ubuntu doesn't work for me.. but that is one thing it complains about.. fwiw compiz itself does work)
Jan 20 19:37:07 <robclark> oh, hm. nm, I think I see the issue..
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