**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 29 02:59:58 2013 Jan 29 06:15:56 Where is the boot.img file? http://lilstevie.geek.nz/downloads Jan 29 06:16:06 It always goes to black screen Jan 29 06:16:19 Downloaded: http://lilstevie.geek.nz/downloads/OLiFE-Prime-Edition.tar.gz_1.2a_TF101_767779ccfa200e5e00b2f1e33a3d73a9 Jan 29 06:16:29 Downloaded: http://lilstevie.geek.nz/downloads/OLiFE.tar.gz_1.2a_TF101_c30263fd8271a23bb211fd9fdd69fa45 Jan 29 07:33:49 good morning Jan 29 07:38:44 ikepanhc: ping Jan 29 07:43:11 ikepanhc: I replied on the bug Jan 29 07:43:48 fabo: thanks for the quick reply. /me is checking Jan 29 07:44:59 fabo: execuse me, which bug you mentioned? Jan 29 07:49:11 ikepanhc: bug 1078356 Jan 29 07:49:12 Launchpad bug 1078356 in Arndale "usb 3.0 support" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1078356 Jan 29 07:49:47 fabo: thanks I see it Jan 29 07:51:21 fabo: one more question, can you point me where I can clone the git tree for the binary? Jan 29 07:54:55 ikepanhc: http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=kernel/linux-linaro-tracking.git linux-linaro branch Jan 29 07:55:12 thanks a lot Jan 29 07:55:18 ikepanhc: all the details are available in the changelog (including config fragments) Jan 29 08:01:58 fabo: the kernel oops at s5p_usb_phy_init+0x56/0x1a8, is that possible that we might have different hardware? Jan 29 08:02:17 * ikepanhc is posting the full log on bug Jan 29 08:03:54 ikepanhc: I'm not that different hardware are available. I guess we have the same. Jan 29 08:05:58 ikepanhc: I experienced kernel oops too, reported in a separate bug (seems related to toolchain) Jan 29 08:15:28 ikepanhc: do you have something connected on usb when you boot? Jan 29 08:16:00 fabo: yes, a usb2ethernet Jan 29 08:16:26 could remove it and see if you still get the oops? Jan 29 08:16:32 +you Jan 29 08:17:39 hmm, a little bit hard, its far away from me and I need someone do that for me Jan 29 08:17:52 I will try to ask. thanks for the suggestion Jan 29 08:21:05 ikepanhc: I observed strange behavior depending on the peripherals connected Jan 29 08:21:35 ikepanhc: I don't know the root cause but it could be hardware Jan 29 08:22:04 fabo: including oops of ohci_irq? Jan 29 08:23:23 ikepanhc: yes, I have random oops if I plug something on ethernet or usb, both are connected on the same bus Jan 29 08:24:46 fabo: I see that too, the value of regs in ohci_irq() is NULL and the funciton using it Jan 29 08:25:26 fabo: probably the first interrupt comes before everything initial, this is my guess Jan 29 08:26:26 fabo: this is the dirty workaround I have http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=hwe/ubuntu-quantal-arndale.git;a=blobdiff;f=drivers/usb/host/ohci-hcd.c;h=88678526688de06d6ddb142f22fe40ec1596dd9e;hp=4a1d64d92338e7653035b054decf6e714909a41f;hb=d206e0141339b25724445ba79cfb7ec7b57bc5c1;hpb=08ff89b94bc54d91df7fcb8800c8aeb6a1fff072 Jan 29 08:28:09 ikepanhc: it worths a try. it could be the same root cause as my oops with ethernet/sata Jan 29 08:28:30 I'll apply and test Jan 29 08:29:04 glad I can help Jan 29 08:31:26 ikepanhc: according to tushar, plugging an usb device might be just avoiding that ATM (probing, enumeration might be taking some time) Jan 29 08:34:14 * ikepanhc nods. but I can only remove access to the hardware, ethernet is critical to me :( Jan 29 08:35:05 s/remove/remote Jan 29 13:11:32 ogra_: I'm playing with ubuntu on this nexus 7, any ideas how to get another shell up? I've installed plasma-active but I can't seem to persuade lightdm to launch it as the autologin session Jan 29 13:12:00 i think it should respect ~/.dmrc, not sure Jan 29 13:12:18 nope, it just changes that back to ubuntu when I change it Jan 29 13:13:32 Riddell, hmm, i guess thats a question for the desktop team then, i dont see any way to change the session in lightdm here Jan 29 13:13:46 looks like they dropped the UI element for that Jan 29 13:14:12 there should be a config file for lightdm though, where you should be able to force the default Jan 29 13:14:14 I did find that somehow but then there's no way to type in a password Jan 29 13:15:16 /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf has user-session= Jan 29 13:15:27 you need to enable the keyboard in the panel Jan 29 13:15:43 (we default to autologin, so the greeter didnt see much love yet) Jan 29 13:16:18 there should be an a11y icon Jan 29 13:50:04 ogra_: whee I got it running Jan 29 13:50:21 alas the touchscreen seems not to be working Jan 29 13:50:27 I wonder what enabled that to function Jan 29 14:41:34 ogra_: Hmm I have installed today's raring image for nexus 7, I get graphical corruption in the background of OEM config and then I'm stuck on "Who are you?" after configuring the wifi; are these known issues and is there a workaround? Jan 29 14:42:15 lool, a reboot fixes the focus error Jan 29 14:42:33 lool, wallpaper issue is known and filed as well, just ignore it :) Jan 29 14:44:43 Ok; hard-resetting then Jan 29 14:44:53 ogra_: is there a bug for the focus issue? Jan 29 14:45:23 yep, but i'm not at a machine where i can look it up quickly, i'll give you the number later Jan 29 14:45:40 lool, xnox is working on that afaik Jan 29 14:46:50 * xnox is going to add g-s-d hacks to paint background such that everyone stops bugging me about it. Jan 29 14:47:06 but that will not fix background for Xubuntu/Lubuntu/Studio/Mythbuntu Jan 29 14:47:09 =(((( Jan 29 14:47:34 Shouldn't it be at least black? Jan 29 14:47:56 that seems like a driver bug somewhere Jan 29 14:48:18 yes, thats another issue that has several incarnations Jan 29 14:49:12 the driver doesnt properly clean up if you shut down X ... booting without splash you actuallly see the content of the desktop on last shutdown for a second when lightdm starts Jan 29 14:49:36 iirc that was communicated to nvidia Jan 29 14:51:34 probably because Android does not use framebuffer directly, I kinda wonder how do they draw to screen Oo Jan 29 14:51:56 we dont use any android bits :) Jan 29 14:52:13 there is an actual xorg driver in use Jan 29 14:52:25 which has the bug Jan 29 14:53:07 not only that, everything which writes directly to framebuffer has that bug Jan 29 14:53:17 fb's content is not erased after reboot Jan 29 15:16:33 hmm, would the fix be simply to erase the contents of the framebuffer before enabling the display (in-kernel, I guess)? (can you do anything else if, say, the kernel crashes or gets stuck and is later rebooted?) Jan 29 15:18:53 (I've seen very similar things on regular desktop computers with some X drivers as well, so I think it's been quite common at least in the past - e.g., kill an X server and go back to a text console, then restart X, and it was quite common in the past that the previous screen contents were briefly visible before X cleared the display) Jan 29 15:19:53 I just set the whole framebuffer to "black" before I do first update. Jan 29 15:21:00 on ubuntu's kernel, it was more visible because of the console text/graphic mode switch, maybe it is needed to "erase" fb even before that happens (?) Jan 29 15:46:25 ogra_: Seems the daily-preinstalled images for nexus 7 / raring have stopped building since the 24th; can't find more recent logs; any idea why? Jan 29 15:46:44 lool, DC breakage Jan 29 15:46:48 http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntu/raring/ stops at the 24th Jan 29 15:46:50 ogra_: :-/ Jan 29 15:47:02 lool, todays build should be running right now, they managed to fix it today Jan 29 15:47:39 the livefs builder broke and we have no fallback ... and there was nobody to go physically to the board to bring it up again Jan 29 15:47:48 (it isnt in the mandabox) Jan 29 15:47:57 ok Jan 29 15:50:07 there is hope we'll get a fallback builder soon Jan 29 15:50:27 its quite hard with one livefs builder for all arm images and flavours Jan 29 16:01:59 infinity: aarch64 porting meeting? Jan 29 16:02:13 janimo, hey ... should i drop the matrix stuff from acceld now ? Jan 29 16:02:20 hrw: The one that's in Finnish? :) Jan 29 16:02:27 yes Jan 29 16:02:33 ogra_, no, far from it Jan 29 16:02:45 the g-s-d change is just a small part of the picture Jan 29 16:02:50 ah, ok, your changelog entry sounded hopeful Jan 29 16:02:56 I still need the kernel/udev rules in place Jan 29 16:03:01 hrw: Was it a G+ hangout? Link me. Jan 29 16:03:20 well,some of g-s-d rotations are fixed Jan 29 16:03:32 but orientation detection relies on kernel support which we do not have yet Jan 29 16:03:33 hrw: (Sorry, a bit scatterbrained today, tag-team debugging initramfs-tools with a user) Jan 29 16:03:37 but it's next on my todo Jan 29 16:03:45 ah Jan 29 16:03:45 infinity: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/da41dcc2462a4ed93ec4e603dcfff109b6004142 Jan 29 16:04:08 ogra_, this was a change to the gsd xrandr plugin, the other part is the orientation plugin Jan 29 16:04:12 janimo, also add a joystick device so we can use games by accelerometer ;) Jan 29 16:04:29 ogra_: the serial stuff is working great for login on n7, but is there a way to make the kernel messages and early boot stuff when it unpacks the rootfs go there also? Specifying it as one of the console= doesn't seems to be sufficient. Jan 29 16:04:33 while you fix the kernel Jan 29 16:04:42 ogra_, what could be done but I don't think it's worth the trouble is using dbus-send to ask gsd to rotate instead of manually calling xrandr and xinput Jan 29 16:04:49 but no real gain Jan 29 16:05:13 ogra_, yes, it actually needs to be exposed as a joystick in order for gsd to talk to it :) Jan 29 16:05:13 plars, nope, the serial bit comes from a USB driver, it can only start once that is loaded, cant log anything before Jan 29 16:05:21 but only axis and no shoot button Jan 29 16:05:23 ogra_: ok Jan 29 16:05:52 janimo, pfft, users can buy a bluetooth button for that :P Jan 29 16:06:23 or play non-violent games where you just cruise in a spaceship but don't shoot anything Jan 29 16:06:30 haha Jan 29 16:08:17 plars, thanks for reminding me serial login exists. I have annoying lags and lockups via wifi/ssh Jan 29 16:09:11 well, sadly serial login also eats our battery Jan 29 16:09:22 ogra_: oh, really? Jan 29 16:09:45 there seems to be a bug in either the g_serial driver or in getty, yeah Jan 29 16:10:54 which causes a ton of wakeups per second currently ... check with htop, you will see ttyGS0 in the top CPU consumers Jan 29 16:11:23 well, while you're on serial you're also plugged in no? Jan 29 16:12:23 heh, yeah, you should Jan 29 16:12:26 janimo: well, yes but I can easily drain more battery than I'm charging Jan 29 16:12:45 janimo: and considering we'd like to do some power testing in an automated way, this could complicate things a bit Jan 29 16:12:47 it definitely causes a lot of CPU load atm Jan 29 16:13:04 i know cking will look at it though Jan 29 16:13:10 but he seems to be off today Jan 29 16:39:40 ogra_, janimo: we may end up having to test install differently and just keep a system upgrading, still not having much luck with the preseeding. Does the kernel upgrade properly now? I seem to recall that being an issue at some point Jan 29 16:39:56 kernel is fine Jan 29 16:40:04 awesome Jan 29 16:40:08 upgrades from quantal to raring have issues Jan 29 16:40:19 nobody plans to fix that though Jan 29 16:40:26 ogra_: yeah, don't need that Jan 29 16:42:36 wow, the settings i just uploaded actually bring the system load to a sane value on the nx7 Jan 29 16:42:37 !! Jan 29 16:42:54 finally a default load below 1 Jan 29 16:46:56 ogra_, what changed? Jan 29 16:48:45 janimo, i just added an upstart job that applies the same settings as in init.grouper.rc for the cpufreq governor Jan 29 16:49:15 we switched to the interactive governor a while ago, which already improved over ondemand but never used the options android uses for it Jan 29 17:08:13 ogra_, nice Jan 29 17:08:53 yeah, i'm quite impressed what such a small change does Jan 29 17:09:26 having an idle load below 0.10 if you had it above 1 all the time is quite great Jan 29 17:21:06 I'm currently running this on my galaxy note: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845631 Jan 29 17:21:52 however it's ubuntu 10.10 and it seems the deb files for an update have all length 0 Jan 29 17:22:29 better talk to the creator of that chroot then Jan 29 17:22:29 well, it is two and a half years old, repositories are probably down already Jan 29 17:22:40 is there a more recent arm image for v7 that I can use as a drop in replacement? Jan 29 17:22:41 oh, right Jan 29 17:23:13 I suppose you can use nexus 7's images when it is just chroot Jan 29 17:23:44 thanks Tassadar, is there a link for that? Jan 29 17:23:49 well, depends how many hacks that chroot has :) Jan 29 17:24:11 yeah, gimme a while, I'm reading the thread Jan 29 17:24:22 theoretically do-release-update should just DTRT and set the sources.list to old-releases.ubuntu.com Jan 29 17:24:37 and upgrade you Jan 29 17:25:28 I guess a release upgrade should work, however the image is rather small Jan 29 17:25:43 yeah, 1.6gb? Jan 29 17:26:12 compressed, if installed it leaves about 1 gig free Jan 29 17:26:31 what is total size of the .img file? Jan 29 17:27:26 about 3G Jan 29 17:28:20 Wow, I just did "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade" and now my ubuntu installation on my nexus7 reads the X mouse location along the Y axis and vis versa! It's really weird! You can start apps (listed along the left side) by touching along the top of the screen. You can get to top screen menus by touching along the right side! Some fix since yesterday (when I did the last upgrade) has really screwed up mouse positions! Jan 29 17:28:56 LisaNori, use the serial shell and upgrade again, there was a small window where kernel and userspace were out of sync today Jan 29 17:29:12 mosasaur: I guess that is not enough to do the upgrade Jan 29 17:29:15 just another upgrade should fix it Jan 29 17:29:57 Tassadar: yeah that's why I'd like some torrent with a more recent image Jan 29 17:30:08 I did the upgrade just a few minutes ago. I don't have a way to attach a USB keyboard. I'll see if i can ssh in. Jan 29 17:31:14 weird, if it was a few mins ago all should be fine Jan 29 17:31:22 LisaNori: I suppose you're not talking about just a chroot? Jan 29 17:31:41 nope Jan 29 17:31:42 the nexus7 is nbative Jan 29 17:31:45 *native Jan 29 17:32:11 LisaNori, was that a raring install or did you upgrade from a quantal demo image ? Jan 29 17:32:13 I'd say there isn't one you can _just_ drop in, but you could make one from the nexus 7's I suppose, the chroot seems pretty much okay Jan 29 17:32:44 LisaNori, (the original installation i mean) Jan 29 17:33:32 It was a raring install (using the dual boot capability). Worked fine yesterday. Worked fine when I turned it on today. Screwed after I did upgrade and rebooted. Jan 29 17:33:44 oh, dual boot, hmm Jan 29 17:33:54 let me try ti Jan 29 17:33:56 it Jan 29 17:34:01 is the nexus 7 already at 12.04 or something like that? Jan 29 17:34:05 if you can ssh in, check the kernel version Jan 29 17:34:13 mosasaur, 13.04 Jan 29 17:34:21 OK :-) Jan 29 17:35:23 * Tassadar is rebooting to ubuntu on his n7 to try update Jan 29 17:35:57 smells like the kernel wasnt updated Jan 29 17:36:42 we are at 3.1.10-9-nexus7 Jan 29 17:36:47 apparently ssh isn't enabled and the onscreen keyboard is useless now. I'll try using "adb shell". Jan 29 17:36:51 uname -r should tell Jan 29 17:37:24 won't work, if you are on linux, just plug it in and type "screen /dev/ttyACM0 115200" Jan 29 17:37:35 we run a serial login on the USB port in the default ubuntu image (no idea if that applies to the dual boot image) Jan 29 17:37:49 (and then your username and enter, even if it does not show anything in terminal) Jan 29 17:37:52 right, follow Tassadar Jan 29 17:39:18 Cool! That worked fine! I'm in. Jan 29 17:39:25 well, uname -r Jan 29 17:39:49 3.1.10-8-nexus7 Jan 29 17:39:57 aha Jan 29 17:40:01 there is your prob Jan 29 17:40:14 :) ? Jan 29 17:40:36 your kernel wasnt upgraded, no idea why, i only work with the official image Jan 29 17:40:53 but i guess Tassadar can help you :) Jan 29 17:41:13 LisaNori: tell me what "ls -l /boot | grep vmlinuz" shows you Jan 29 17:41:47 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 Jan 24 17:40 vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-3.1.10-8-nexus7 Jan 29 17:41:48 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4523920 Jan 24 13:35 vmlinuz-3.1.10-8-nexus7 Jan 29 17:41:53 Oo Jan 29 17:42:11 okay, just wait until I update my installation Jan 29 17:42:23 sudo apt-get install linux-nexus7 Jan 29 17:42:26 try that Jan 29 17:42:41 the kernel wont be upgraded is the metapackage isnt installed Jan 29 17:42:48 seems thats missing from your setup Jan 29 17:43:02 s/is/if/ Jan 29 17:44:07 running now... Jan 29 17:44:28 it should pull in 3.1.10-9-nexus7 alongside Jan 29 17:45:00 does it install also flash-kernel Jan 29 17:45:02 ? Jan 29 17:45:23 i dont think so Jan 29 17:46:03 I wonder how could "linux-nexus7" be missing Jan 29 17:46:20 *can/whatever-the-correct-english-is Jan 29 17:46:32 no idea Jan 29 17:47:27 in order to install using multirom, I followed the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403 Jan 29 17:47:52 Ok, so, now I do "apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade" and reboot? Jan 29 17:48:10 just reboot should be fine if you see 3.1.10-9-nexus7 in /boot/ Jan 29 17:48:37 LisaNori: when did you install ubuntu, like from which that was the image you installed via recovery? Jan 29 17:48:41 at least roughly Jan 29 17:49:56 Following the instructions on the page I mentioned above, I followed the link "here" in step 2 under "Adding ROMs". That's the image I loaded. Jan 29 17:50:06 http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&drKey=1359&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.xda-developers.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D2011403&v=1&libid=1359481624518&out=http%3A%2F%2Fcdimage.ubuntu.com%2Fdaily-preinstalled%2Fcurrent%2F&title=%5BWiFi%263G%5D%20MultiROM%20v6%20-%20xda-developers&txt=here&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13594818010172 Jan 29 17:50:47 those images are built daily, every day there is different image, I wanna know when did you download it Jan 29 17:50:52 Of course, I followed those instructions about a week or two ago, so it would have been a different image there at the time. Jan 29 17:51:16 cat /var/log/installer/media-info Jan 29 17:51:21 Let me see if I still have the image I loaded around somewhere. Jan 29 17:51:28 that should tell from when the installation is Jan 29 17:51:47 if it uses our tarballs as a source at least Jan 29 17:51:51 root@rajnexus7:/boot# cat /var/log/installer/media-info Jan 29 17:51:51 cat: /var/log/installer/media-info: No such file or directory Jan 29 17:51:55 It should not matter, I just want to know to be sure it is not like some acient image or something like that Jan 29 17:52:32 and if it was week or two then it is enough, you don't have to look for the file Jan 29 17:52:38 hmm, so its not our tarball or the install pre-dates the addition of build stamps Jan 29 17:52:43 Ok, the image I downloaded is dated Jan 23, 17:48 Jan 29 17:52:48 yeah, I don't use the installer Jan 29 17:52:57 not at all ? Jan 29 17:53:04 no, it just extracts the image Jan 29 17:53:17 i mean the graphical part for user setup etc Jan 29 17:53:33 it does some kind of important configuration bits Jan 29 17:53:53 I thought that the installer which extracts tar.gz archive creates that file... Jan 29 17:54:12 oh, right, it copies it from the initial initrd Jan 29 17:54:23 we ship it originally in the initrd Jan 29 17:54:41 * ogra_ forgot about that step, sorry Jan 29 17:54:47 so it cant be in the tarball indeed Jan 29 17:54:53 I rebooted and it works fine now. Thanks a lot! Jan 29 17:55:01 unless your re-packaging scripts copy it :) Jan 29 17:55:22 looks like mine also did not update to newest kernel Oo Jan 29 17:55:58 well, i'm pretty sure linux-nexus7 is in the tarball :) Jan 29 17:56:07 aah, yeah, that's why Jan 29 17:56:16 flash-kernel is tied to linux-nexus7 Jan 29 17:56:21 and I do "apt-get -y purge ac100-tarball-installer flash-kernel" Jan 29 17:56:41 because I really don't want to have flash-kernel when dual bootin Jan 29 17:56:42 g Jan 29 17:56:51 chmm Jan 29 17:56:52 you could try an evil hack and export FLASH_KERNEL_SKIP=1 in 7etc7environment or so Jan 29 17:57:03 then f-k becomes a no-op Jan 29 17:57:28 or at least it should, if you find a place where it doesnt thats a bug Jan 29 17:57:40 */etc/environment Jan 29 17:57:47 LisaNori: you probably won't be able to boot into android now Jan 29 17:58:34 try to do "apt-get purge flash-kernel" and before you confirm it, tell me what packages will it remove Jan 29 18:01:56 or, better yet, "dpkg --remove flash-kernel" should remove only that package Jan 29 18:02:20 ogra_: is that right? Jan 29 18:04:45 Here's the output from "apt-get purge flash-kernel": Jan 29 18:04:46 Reading package lists... Done Jan 29 18:04:46 Building dependency tree Jan 29 18:04:46 Reading state information... Done Jan 29 18:04:46 The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: Jan 29 18:04:46 abootimg apt-clone archdetect-deb dmraid dpkg-repack gir1.2-json-1.0 Jan 29 18:04:47 gir1.2-timezonemap-1.0 gir1.2-xkl-1.0 kpartx kpartx-boot libdebconfclient0 Jan 29 18:04:47 libdebian-installer4 libdevmapper-event1.02.1 libdmraid1.0.0.rc16 lvm2 Jan 29 18:04:48 os-prober python3-pyicu rdate thunderbird-locale-en thunderbird-locale-en-gb Jan 29 18:04:48 thunderbird-locale-en-us uboot-envtools uboot-mkimage Jan 29 18:04:49 Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. Jan 29 18:04:49 The following packages will be REMOVED: Jan 29 18:04:50 flash-kernel* Jan 29 18:04:50 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 11 not upgraded. Jan 29 18:04:51 After this operation, 135 kB disk space will be freed. Jan 29 18:04:51 Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n Jan 29 18:05:44 yeah, you can proceed, just press y, it will remove only that package Jan 29 18:07:08 what is this accomplishing, exactly? Jan 29 18:07:08 and then "echo "flash-kernel hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections", to be sure it will never install again Jan 29 18:07:21 flash-kernel flashes ubuntu kernel to main boot partition, replacing android Jan 29 18:07:31 you don't want that when dual-booting Jan 29 18:07:44 Yep, that makes sense. Jan 29 18:08:12 you will probably have to restore boot.img from backup or something, that apt-get install linux-nexus7 probably already flashed ubuntu's kernel :/ Jan 29 18:08:23 Ok. Done. Jan 29 18:08:40 I just finished shutting down linux and booting android just fine, then rebooted to linux. Jan 29 18:09:02 well...then it's all good, but if there was any update to that kernel, it would flash it Jan 29 18:10:09 ...and I have to fix the recovery not to remove linux-nexus7 package, and I don't have any idea why does it do that in the first place Jan 29 18:11:37 Just rebooted into android again just fine, so I guess everything's ok. I tend to leave it running ubuntu most of the time though. :) Jan 29 18:13:07 hmm Jan 29 18:13:16 you did not do "dist-upgrade", did you? Jan 29 18:13:30 like you were always doing "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade", right? Jan 29 18:13:42 no, I always go "apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade". Jan 29 18:14:13 I think that linux-nexus7 was there, but normal upgrade did not update it because it would require installing new packages Jan 29 18:14:55 at least dpkg.log says so Jan 29 18:15:59 anyway, I should entirely disable that package when installing ubuntu, we _really_ don't want it Jan 29 18:16:15 I mean flash-kernel Jan 29 18:25:29 Tassadar, ah, yeah, that could be, you indeed always want to dist-upgrade Jan 29 18:25:46 especially in development releases where dependencies can change around Jan 29 18:25:57 hm, the older kernel was not removed Jan 29 18:26:04 nope Jan 29 18:26:09 no ubuntu does that Jan 29 18:26:19 apt-get --purge autoremove Jan 29 18:26:24 But we keep two by default. Jan 29 18:26:43 at least initrd.img symlink is okay now Jan 29 18:26:46 ogra@anubis:~$ ls -l /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-*|wc -l Jan 29 18:26:46 11 Jan 29 18:26:52 thats my x86 desktop Jan 29 18:27:16 dammit, just 10 on my debian) Jan 29 18:27:39 but yeah, the autoremove would clean them up Jan 29 18:28:04 I'm just thinking of a way to choose correct initrd now) Jan 29 18:28:05 except that i cant use it because it would remove packages i still want around Jan 29 18:28:40 Tassadar, ? Jan 29 18:28:51 it is always /boot/initrd.img Jan 29 18:29:06 which is always a symlink to the latest Jan 29 18:31:16 yeah, problem is it was not, before this update initrd.img was some rubbish 23 bytes long file Jan 29 18:31:46 why is that ? Jan 29 18:31:49 and I haven't realized that there can be more than one kernel, so I searched for "initrd-*" Jan 29 18:31:59 I dunno, you're the guy) Jan 29 18:32:03 it is like that in the image Jan 29 18:32:30 well, indeed it is, the installer cares for creating a proper initrd that matches the HW diuring install Jan 29 18:32:55 the graphical part? Jan 29 18:33:08 the part after it Jan 29 18:33:14 ooh, nice) Jan 29 18:33:31 then it's no problem and I can just use the symlink Jan 29 18:33:35 the part that removes the installer (which you definitely dont want on an installed system) Jan 29 18:33:56 in the end it runs update-initramfs Jan 29 18:34:12 though note that there is an existing initrd already from the unpacking stage Jan 29 18:34:43 yeah...in the image there should always be just one initrd, right? Jan 29 18:34:46 i'm not sure how all these steps behave if there isnt a file at all or a broken symlink or whatever is 23byte big there Jan 29 18:35:19 since thats not a usecase that could happen in a normal install Jan 29 18:36:15 anyway, i'll call it a day now Jan 29 18:36:21 * ogra_ is off Jan 29 19:34:22 bug #1109197 Jan 29 19:34:23 Launchpad bug 1109197 in ac100-tarball-installer (Ubuntu) "fails to preserve mtimes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1109197 Jan 29 19:55:43 anyone knows how to disable touchpad on the tf101? I've tried "xinput --set-prop "Virtual core XTEST pointer" "Device Enabled" 0" but it doesn't work.. It even made X crash.. :( Jan 29 20:07:24 I got it! you can turn off gondor's alarm fire lights! Jan 29 21:54:04 today I installed ubuntu on my nexus7. later i managed to set up everything to compile the kernel but I miss some information how to install the kernel image. Jan 29 21:55:06 it's funny. somehow one should generate boot.img and then you can flash it with fastboot Jan 29 21:55:25 checkout scripts in the ubuntu-nexus7 project branches. Jan 29 21:55:29 sudo apt-get install abootimg (or something like that) Jan 29 21:55:33 unless there is userspace way to do it. Jan 29 21:55:44 XorA: ah, didn't know that abootimg works on nexus7. Jan 29 21:55:58 xnox: biit.img is AFAIk a standard format Jan 29 21:56:02 boot.img Jan 29 21:56:12 * XorA does not have nexus 7 to break Jan 29 21:56:58 XorA: ah, ok. Cause like on panda & ac100 there is flashkernel as well which can update kernel in the correct partitions while running ubuntu on device. Such that one doesn't need to use external machine / boot into flashing mode. Jan 29 21:57:02 although I do remember the Android SDK version having some extra options which were essential for booting some boards Jan 29 21:57:17 i have seen abootimg. it somhow packs together the kernel with some other files. Jan 29 21:57:36 flash-kernel works perfectly fine on the nexus7 too. Jan 29 21:57:38 can i simply take the other files from the existing img? Jan 29 21:57:45 (It does, indeed, leverage abootimg along the way) Jan 29 21:58:43 If you're building your kernels via the ubuntu kernel source and, thus, making shiny .deb packages, just installing the package will take care of the rest. Jan 29 21:58:57 if you use the ubuntu kernel source package, just install the package the buiuld produces with dpkg -i Jan 29 21:59:08 *snap* Jan 29 21:59:10 :) Jan 29 21:59:12 If you're doing the whole mess by hand, you'll want to generate an initramf, then run flash-kernel against your version. Jan 29 21:59:28 s/initramf/initramfs/ Jan 29 21:59:38 not even i do that by hand Jan 29 22:00:06 * ogra_ uses dpkg -i and then dd's /dev/mmcblk0p2 to an img file Jan 29 22:00:24 all steps inbetween are automatic that way Jan 29 22:01:55 i wanted to try out if i can make usbnet work. would be fine if i could use usb to transfer files to the nexus7 Jan 29 22:02:20 you surely can, but will have to disable the g_serial setup then Jan 29 22:02:49 (including the upstart job that runs getty on the werial line) Jan 29 22:02:57 *serial Jan 29 22:03:23 by default the usb port is set up as usb serial console Jan 29 22:03:32 if i can have usbnet i should be able to use ssh and dont need the serial any more Jan 29 22:03:51 well, true indeed Jan 29 22:04:01 dont you have a wlan ? Jan 29 22:05:17 yes till now i connected via wlan. it worked but i had to use an additional old fritzbox due to lack of any other wlan devices Jan 29 22:05:51 ah, yeah, thats bad Jan 29 22:06:44 i thought usb is a neater solution. i was wondering why i hadnt found anything regarding usbnet on nexus7 yet Jan 29 22:08:20 well, while usb is a neater solution, the kernel recieves regular fixes so you likelz have to recompile a lot if you want to keep track Jan 29 22:08:35 nils__, there is an android package for reverse teathering over usb Jan 29 22:09:07 any idea where the right place for further details about hacking nexus7 is - maybe except of this chat. Jan 29 22:09:30 scientes but i am running ubuntu Jan 29 22:09:46 yeah i relize that now Jan 29 22:09:46 well, here and in #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-desktop i'd say Jan 29 22:10:42 thanks for your thoughts. much appreciated. Jan 29 22:10:47 nils__, i was pondering to actually try the g_composite driver instead of g_serial but havent gotten around to test it yet Jan 29 22:11:20 composite should actually be able to provide both Jan 29 22:12:40 s Jan 29 22:13:33 thanks ogra, I will try to install my kernel tomorrow. actually just at the beginning. great device. my first mobile gadget with linux. Jan 29 22:13:43 :) Jan 29 22:16:07 nils__: its a bit fancier than my first mobile linux device :_D Jan 29 22:17:43 haha, yeah Jan 29 22:18:27 when i had my first B/W ipaq the nexus7 would have been a supercomputer Jan 29 22:18:48 or at least a very powerful server Jan 29 22:20:54 ogra, I see you also blog about the Nexus7 status. Jan 29 22:21:32 well, only the meeting announcements but yeah Jan 29 22:21:55 others definitely have blogged more and more intresting stuff :) Jan 29 22:22:14 so there's another source where I can gather some infos. Jan 29 22:22:29 nice. thanks a lot. cheers. Jan 29 22:23:34 most of the blogs that are related to ubuntu on the nexus7 are aggregated on planet.ubuntu.com Jan 29 22:26:05 * XorA should stick OZ on nexus for old times sake! Jan 29 22:26:24 it should fly Jan 29 22:26:43 be interesting compared to plasma desktop Jan 29 22:26:51 heh Jan 29 22:26:55 or unity Jan 29 22:27:17 GPE -> Unity and Opie -> Modern QT :-D Jan 29 22:27:51 heh Jan 29 22:28:00 thats the approx equivs Jan 29 22:28:36 i actually like unity ... just has to go on a little diet Jan 29 22:28:48 * XorA is not a fan Jan 29 22:28:52 (which it currently is in the middle of) Jan 30 01:53:22 infinity: trying to MA crossbuild eglibc2.17 falls over quickly with: Jan 30 01:53:25 configure: error: --enable-multi-arch support requires assembler and linker support Jan 30 01:53:35 which is dull Jan 30 01:56:19 you should forward-port the patches from the -cross-toolchain packages, or wait until infinity does do so Jan 30 01:57:58 ah. OK. Jan 30 02:10:31 Hi Jan 30 02:11:27 Is ubuntu going to run on the nexus 4 phone, I have been googling I have not really seen any news **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jan 30 02:59:59 2013