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Feb 25 06:25:09 <anish[1]> anyone tried compiling raspberry pi kernel using ubuntu10.10?
Feb 25 20:20:32 <xnox> ogra_: do you have a bug # handy of the "can't type in the fields in oem-config but works elsewhere"
Feb 25 20:25:37 <topi`> quick q: i'm considering getting a samsung chromebook and installing raring on it. do the chromeOS suspend/resume bugs affect ubuntu as well?
Feb 25 20:28:59 <ogra_> xnox, heh, funny coincidence ...
Feb 25 20:29:29 <ogra_> xnox, watch your bugmail. i just duplicated one to the master bug
Feb 25 20:29:42 <ogra_> bug 1093050
Feb 25 20:29:43 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1093050 in ubuntu-nexus7 "compiz dies during oem-config and steals the focus so that input fields are unusable" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1093050
Feb 25 20:30:15 <ogra_> i thought i made the description clear enough, but just searched my butt off to find it again ...
Feb 25 20:30:43 <xnox> ogra_: thanks, i was pinged about the one you marked as duplicate on #ubuntu-quality ;-)
Feb 25 20:31:07 <ogra_> heh
Feb 25 20:32:10 <marvin24> is the omap u-boot device tree the same as the kernel one?
Feb 25 20:32:31 <marvin24> I wonder how to pass the device tree to u-boot on tegra
Feb 25 20:33:05 <ogra_> ppisati, ^^^
Feb 25 20:33:39 <marvin24> btw, it's maybe not a clever choice to put device tree outside of /boot if you want to load it
Feb 25 20:33:51 <ppisati> marvin24: you mean the DTB file? it's build from kernel source so yes
Feb 25 20:33:58 <ppisati> *built
Feb 25 20:34:10 <marvin24> ppisati: you mean it is build into the kernel?
Feb 25 20:34:16 <ppisati> marvin24: nope
Feb 25 20:34:22 <ppisati> marvin24: it's in...
Feb 25 20:34:24 <ppisati> marvin24: wait
Feb 25 20:34:41 <marvin24> I know it is inside the kernel source
Feb 25 20:34:51 <marvin24> but you need to pass it to the kernel on boot
Feb 25 20:34:55 <ppisati> marvin24: right
Feb 25 20:34:59 <marvin24> either you compile it in (bad)
Feb 25 20:35:06 <marvin24> or you load it with uboot
Feb 25 20:35:09 <ppisati> marvin24: it's not compiled in
Feb 25 20:35:29 <marvin24> ppisati: so how is it loaded?
Feb 25 20:35:29 <ppisati> marvin24: we are switching to a multiplatform kernel (omap3/4, freescale imx6 and vexpress)
Feb 25 20:35:51 <marvin24> yes, even with single platform (multi-soc) you need to load it
Feb 25 20:36:10 <ppisati> marvin24: you manually modify uboot.scr or uenv.txt (or the other don't remember)
Feb 25 20:36:14 <ppisati> marvin24: wait
Feb 25 20:36:25 <ppisati> marvin24: and add
Feb 25 20:36:26 <marvin24> I haven't found this in flash-kernel
Feb 25 20:36:29 <ppisati> marvin24: "fatload mmc 0:1 0x82600000 board.dtb"
Feb 25 20:36:32 <marvin24> that's why I asked
Feb 25 20:36:46 <ppisati> marvin24: "bootm ... ... 0x82600000"
Feb 25 20:36:53 <ppisati> marvin24: our flash-kernel doesn't support DTB
Feb 25 20:37:02 <ppisati> marvin24: you need to do the modification manually
Feb 25 20:38:33 <marvin24> oh
Feb 25 20:38:43 <marvin24> so hard coded in u-boot ...
Feb 25 20:39:24 <ppisati> marvin24: you can modify the loader script and rebuild (boot.scr) or just modify/update it (uenv.txt&c)
Feb 25 20:39:58 <marvin24> boot script is in /usr/share/... and should not be modified
Feb 25 20:40:10 <marvin24> and uenv.txt is kinda non standard, but ok
Feb 25 20:40:23 <marvin24> if that's that way to go
Feb 25 20:41:13 <marvin24> ppisati: still, dtb in /lib/firmware/device-tree is not so nice
Feb 25 20:41:15 <ppisati> marvin24: there was something in /etc/...
Feb 25 20:41:21 <marvin24> if you have a /boot partition
Feb 25 20:41:31 <ppisati> marvin24: uh?
Feb 25 20:41:42 <ppisati> yu copy it to the fat partition and you load it from there
Feb 25 20:41:57 <ppisati> marvin24: that's what flash-kernel should do
Feb 25 20:41:58 <marvin24> there is /etc/defaults/flash-kernel or so which can be enhanced
Feb 25 20:42:04 <ppisati> marvin24: but (unfortunately) doesn't
Feb 25 20:42:08 <marvin24> ah, copy
Feb 25 20:42:18 <marvin24> I did it by hand
Feb 25 20:42:28 <marvin24> yes, also missing in flash-kernel
Feb 25 20:44:03 <ppisati> marvin24: watch out that if you are running an old version of u-boot it doesn't support dtb
Feb 25 20:46:15 <marvin24> ppisati: it's already booting (2013.01)
Feb 25 20:46:38 <marvin24> just need to fix up the last things (e.g. flash-kernel)
Feb 25 20:51:07 <qengho> topi`: I have a Chromebook that's a few months old.  Has Precise, which does not suspend.  I don't know about Raring.
Feb 25 20:54:08 <ogra_> qengho, apparently hrw's kernel in raring is supposed to suspend
Feb 25 20:54:20 <ogra_> i havent found the time to try it yet
Feb 25 20:54:49 <qengho> Nice.  I have a reason to upgrade, then.
Feb 25 20:55:19 * ogra_ runs raring userspace but still the original kernel
Feb 25 21:07:46 <topi`> qengho: have you tested if suspend works in chromeOS?
Feb 25 21:08:03 <topi`> I just read that there are problems suspending in chromeOS
Feb 25 21:08:17 <topi`> doesn't ubuntu use the same kernel?
Feb 25 21:08:38 <ogra_> worked in the original chromeos install for me
Feb 25 21:09:14 <topi`> ogra_: sounds better than the suspend reliability in AC100, then ;)
Feb 25 21:09:44 <ogra_> well, in ubuntu it reliably doesnt suspend  with that kernel
Feb 25 21:09:45 <topi`> wife wants an absolutely quiet netbook, so I'm probably shelling out some $$$ for chromebook
Feb 25 21:09:59 <ogra_> and if i upgrade i'll likely lose dualboot
Feb 25 21:10:22 <topi`> how does dualboot work then?
Feb 25 21:10:28 <ogra_> and while flash from chromeone works flawless in ubuntu chromium, the hangout plugin doesnt
Feb 25 21:10:32 <topi`> I know nothing of samsung bootloader
Feb 25 21:10:33 <ogra_> painful
Feb 25 21:10:37 <qengho> topi`: not the same kernel, exept in the narrowest sense as in "your television uses the same kernel as your Android phone".
Feb 25 21:10:58 <ogra_> you need to switch back from developer mode to boot back int chrOS
Feb 25 21:11:25 <topi`> interesting
Feb 25 21:11:25 <ogra_> qengho, i currently use the exact same kernel here
Feb 25 21:12:08 <topi`> I knew ogra would ;)
Feb 25 21:12:50 <topi`> ogra_: I bet you must already be playing with some nice Aarch64 boards already ;)
Feb 25 21:13:13 <ogra_> nah, #ubuntu-touch toptally sucked me in
Feb 25 21:13:17 <topi`> you guys get all those fancy devices a year earlier than us mortals
Feb 25 21:13:27 <topi`> ouch...
Feb 25 21:13:44 <ogra_> and the boards nowadays go rather to linaro
Feb 25 21:13:45 <topi`> I was (slightly) involved in the touchscreen driver for the Nokia N(
Feb 25 21:13:46 <topi`> N9
Feb 25 21:15:04 <ogra_> well, ubuntu touch bases on CWM 10.1 ...
Feb 25 21:15:17 <ogra_> so there are no drivers to touch, they just work
Feb 25 21:15:51 <topi`> ok
Feb 25 21:19:43 <ogra_> 23 ports to other devices underway after 5 days ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
Feb 25 21:21:12 <xnox> ogra_: are they merged? are they legal to be merged?
Feb 25 21:21:55 <ogra_> not yet merged, not sure what the plan is on merging, but there are images that you can just use with our userspace image
Feb 25 21:22:11 <xnox> awesome!
Feb 25 21:22:31 <ogra_> i think its absolutely legal
Feb 25 21:23:40 <xnox> if the userspace image is detached than I can see how we don't have to merge anything, apart from possibly make pointers to android repo git forests URL (either straight from android.com or with some patches applied in forked github repos)
Feb 25 21:23:59 <xnox> s/detached/independ of base-hw image/
Feb 25 21:24:04 <ogra_> yeah
Feb 25 21:24:55 <ogra_> porting is largely just copy paste work and a successfull compile run
Feb 25 21:25:44 <xnox> oh, so we could automate it =) e.g. by hosting a repository with android-repo manifests URLs pointing to the right places.
Feb 25 21:26:05 <ogra_> well, until you run into build issues
Feb 25 21:26:25 <ogra_> but yeah, you could just rip the snippets out of CWM
Feb 25 21:27:34 <infinity> ogra_: s/CWM/CM/ I assume?
Feb 25 21:27:45 <ogra_> err, yes
Feb 25 21:28:06 * infinity was trying to sort out how ClockWork factored into this.
Feb 25 21:28:51 <ogra_> heh, i'm just learning all the android l33tspeak and names, bear with me :)
Feb 25 21:31:04 <XorA> ogra_: hehe, learning to optimize by changing the wallpaper then?
Feb 25 21:31:23 <ogra_> lol
Feb 25 21:32:58 <XorA> my Android devices seem to get stuck on stock roms, Optimize too often means break ;-)
Feb 25 21:34:13 <ogra_> well, we only use the kernel and driver layers (HAL, surfaceflinger etc) ... the rest is a plain ubuntu rootfs
Feb 25 21:34:53 <ogra_> so as long as androind HW layer doesnt suck performance wise ....
Feb 25 21:35:10 <XorA> would need one of these funky modern devices I guess to try ubuntu-touch
Feb 25 21:43:49 <ogra_> well, yeah, dualcore and 1G is currently a requirement ...
Feb 25 21:44:17 <ogra_> i doubt you would have aany fun below that
Feb 25 21:48:25 <marvin24> ppisati: I guess I will just change the kernel package to copy the relevant device tree to /boot/device-tree.dtb based on /proc/device-tree/model instead of poking around with flash-kernel
Feb 25 21:49:32 <ogra_> ++
Feb 25 21:49:58 <ogra_> its not like they change or anything
Feb 25 21:50:36 <XorA> ogra_: my phone is an Xperia Play :-D so just a little old :-D
Feb 26 01:23:27 <tripelb> Looking for the community discussing - Ubuntu on the Nexus 7. Any clues where it is?
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