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Mar 18 03:02:13 <TheMuso> twb: If you are willing to jump through a few hoops, you can get Ubuntu running on the Samsung Chromebook.
Mar 18 03:02:32 <twb> I heard bad things about the google stuff
Mar 18 03:02:52 <twb> Something about SBK?
Mar 18 03:03:05 <TheMuso> THis is news to me...
Mar 18 03:03:15 <TheMuso> You are probably thinking of the Intel variant of the Chromebook.
Mar 18 03:03:19 <lilstevie> twb, I'm awake
Mar 18 03:03:31 <TheMuso> I think Samsung have an Arm version and an Intel version, probably named different things and look differently, but yeah.
Mar 18 03:03:40 <twb> TheMuso: not sure.  I'll see if I can find the reference I"m thinking of
Mar 18 03:03:41 <lilstevie> the samsung one does have a few issues
Mar 18 03:03:44 <TheMuso> Don't know the name differences.
Mar 18 03:03:50 <lilstevie> like melting the speakers
Mar 18 03:03:57 <lilstevie> if you futz with alsa incorrectly
Mar 18 03:03:58 <TheMuso> Ok, wasn't really aware of the issues, just know it can be done.,
Mar 18 03:04:07 <TheMuso> lilstevie: Yeah but thats fixed as of raring.,
Mar 18 03:04:14 <twb> http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/22465.html "Don't like Secure Boot? Don't buy a Chromebook."
Mar 18 03:04:28 <twb> "Out of the box, Chromebooks are even more locked down than Windows 8 machines."
Mar 18 03:04:45 <TheMuso> twb: Yeah thats about the intel variants, I *think*
Mar 18 03:04:48 <twb> It's not clear if that's x86_64 ones
Mar 18 03:05:01 <twb> NFI how far the EFI madness has penetrated the arm space
Mar 18 03:05:10 <lilstevie> twb, remove a single gold screw and the arm chromebook is open
Mar 18 03:05:17 <twb> lilstevie: OK
Mar 18 03:05:36 <lilstevie> EFI on arm has only penetrated the windows rt devices so far
Mar 18 03:05:53 <lilstevie> arm chromebook uses u-boot
Mar 18 03:06:26 <lilstevie> RaYmAn would be better than me at this though
Mar 18 03:06:51 <lilstevie> he flashed a full devel unlocked u-boot to his device (can only be done with the gold screw undone)
Mar 18 03:07:07 <lilstevie> the gold screw basically enforces SPI writelock
Mar 18 03:07:13 <twb> OTOH the TF101 is still working fine, I'm mainly just wanting to do upgrades to its kernel and stuff that are likely to brick it for a couple of days, meaning I can't do my job.  So maybe what I *should* be doing is getting an x86 netbook instead as my backup...
Mar 18 03:07:25 <lilstevie> tf101 is dead
Mar 18 03:07:26 <lilstevie> Lo
Mar 18 03:08:09 <lilstevie> performance of chromebook is much faster
Mar 18 03:09:17 <twb> Meh, it's only doing emacs and ssh, and it's pretty much already limited by how fast I can type
Mar 18 03:09:42 <twb> >1G of ram would be nice so I can buffer more of the SD card in RAM
Mar 18 03:11:03 <twb> http://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/devices/samsung-chromebook.html#specs says only 6½hr battery
Mar 18 03:14:12 <lilstevie> it says "over"
Mar 18 03:14:13 <lilstevie> :p
Mar 18 03:16:01 <twb> yeah but it's a vendor claim running vendor's OS, so when you switch to a proper linux you assume it's about 80% of their lowest claim
Mar 18 03:41:56 <Zero_Chaos> at full load I get 6 hours on my chromebook battery (like, compiling the whole time)
Mar 18 03:42:07 <Zero_Chaos> if you let it clock down it's closer to 12 hours
Mar 18 03:42:33 <twb> OK
Mar 18 03:49:09 <lilstevie> Zero_Chaos, running ubuntu
Mar 18 03:49:13 <lilstevie> or chromeos
Mar 18 03:49:23 <Zero_Chaos> lilstevie: niether ;-)
Mar 18 03:50:01 <lilstevie> Zero_Chaos, lol
Mar 18 03:51:49 <Zero_Chaos> lilstevie: gentoo
Mar 18 03:51:55 <lilstevie> figured
Mar 18 03:52:11 <lilstevie> it was either going to be debian or gentoo, but you said compiling all day
Mar 18 03:52:35 <Zero_Chaos> yeah kinda narrows it down ;-)
Mar 18 03:52:56 <twb> haha
Mar 18 03:54:02 <lilstevie> I'm unsure where the best performance is with arm
Mar 18 03:54:29 <lilstevie> gentoo for me is a little heavy when you probably need to spend a week compiling everything needed for a desktop env
Mar 18 03:54:45 <Zero_Chaos> lilstevie: closer to two days
Mar 18 03:54:52 <twb> lilstevie: surely you can cross-compile anyway
Mar 18 03:54:56 <twb> So just do it on big iron
Mar 18 03:54:58 <lilstevie> Zero_Chaos, heh thats on the a15 though right
Mar 18 03:55:01 <Zero_Chaos> then again i don't use kde so maybe a week for kde users
Mar 18 03:55:26 <lilstevie> someone said it took 16-17 hours to compile chromium on the tf201
Mar 18 03:55:42 <twb> Last time I tried to compile webkit I ran out of ram
Mar 18 03:55:47 <lilstevie> heh
Mar 18 03:55:48 <twb> Probably because -g was on
Mar 18 03:56:29 <lilstevie>  I'm running fedora on my tf201 as an experiment for the time being and it seems alright, but no EGL/GLES stuff at this stage
Mar 18 04:00:30 <twb> Oh *that's* why my old x86 netbook is in the cupboard.  It's btrfs-on-SSD shat itself
Mar 18 04:01:24 <lilstevie> lol
Mar 18 04:02:53 <twb> I worked out how to recovery /home and /srv later, but / was gooooone
Mar 18 04:03:30 <lilstevie> lol
Mar 18 09:35:36 <imblaze> hello all
Mar 18 09:38:46 <imblaze> i have a few questions about boot on android devices from uefi volumes
Mar 18 09:53:44 * ogra_ guesses you should better ask in an android channel then
Mar 18 11:20:49 <imblaze> .
Mar 18 11:22:34 <RoyK> ,
Mar 18 12:01:43 <Tassadar> imblaze: ping
Mar 18 15:11:02 <ptl> anyone uses ubuntu in a chromebook xe303c12 here?
Mar 18 20:02:10 <angs> I am trying to install wpa_supplicant 2.0 on ubuntu-arm server but it has too much dependencies. Once someone here told a command with aptitude to install dependencies automatically, does anyone know how I can do it?
Mar 18 20:04:14 <ogra_> dependencies are always installed automatically
Mar 18 20:04:22 <infinity> angs: Are you building wpa_supplicant yourself, or getting it from a PPA, or...?
Mar 18 20:04:38 <ogra_> oh, yeah, i missed the 2.0
Mar 18 20:04:46 <infinity> angs: If it's not coming from an apt repository, apt (or aptitude) aren't going to be much help.
Mar 18 20:05:22 <infinity> angs: Though, "apt-get build-dep wpasupplicant" might give you an approximation of the things you need to built it, if that's what you were looking for.
Mar 18 20:05:34 <infinity> s/built/build/
Mar 18 20:07:04 <angs> yes I am trying to build it myself
Mar 18 20:07:16 <angs> than you it install some packages now
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