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Apr 20 10:35:39 <Meizirkki> hi
Apr 20 10:36:26 <Meizirkki> What prevents one from using android kernel directly with ubuntu?
Apr 20 10:36:43 <Meizirkki> on a tablet, for example
Apr 20 10:37:02 <ogra_> nothing .... but you need to change the configuration
Apr 20 10:37:26 <ogra_> and it shouldnt be to old for some options the userspcae needs
Apr 20 10:37:57 <ogra_> (udev or upstart require some settings that are only there from certain versions on)
Apr 20 10:38:14 <Meizirkki> so as long as the kernel source is available one could in theory boot ubuntu on any tablet?
Apr 20 10:38:32 <ogra_> well ... theoretically
Apr 20 10:39:18 <ogra_> android kernels usually have no support for consoles enabled ... if you are lucky the vendor included a driver but disabled it ... often there is no code at all for this ...
Apr 20 10:39:21 <Meizirkki> hmm
Apr 20 10:40:04 <ogra_> the issue with android kernels is that they usually are heavily hacked to get driver support in ... but in a way that possibly breaks building the kernel with other configs
Apr 20 10:41:19 <ogra_> so its really depending on how good the vendor implementation is or if its just a bad hack on top of a mainline kernel or so
Apr 20 10:41:44 <Meizirkki> okay
Apr 20 10:43:51 <ogra_> and then there are indeed no xorg drivers for most of the tablets out there since android doesnt use X
Apr 20 10:44:16 <Meizirkki> Yup I see.
Apr 20 10:44:31 <Meizirkki> Will wayland work?
Apr 20 10:44:45 <ogra_> dunno, mir will :)
Apr 20 10:44:48 <Meizirkki> (isn't it what ubuntu touch is looking forward to using)
Apr 20 10:44:59 * Meizirkki googles mir
Apr 20 10:45:03 <ogra_> no, ubuntu touch will use Mir
Apr 20 10:45:22 <ogra_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec
Apr 20 10:45:32 <ogra_> its similar to wayland ... but different :)
Apr 20 10:45:32 * Meizirkki gets a bunch of submarines and space ships googling mir
Apr 20 10:46:00 <ogra_> (there is an #ubuntu-mir channel)
Apr 20 10:48:52 <Meizirkki> Thanks ogra_ :)
Apr 20 11:01:18 <darkfader> Meizirkki: thanks for bringing ubuntu-on-android up, might help me solve my gps issue (if i dare try, that is)
Apr 20 11:02:21 <Meizirkki> :)
Apr 20 11:12:37 <aks_> hello all, i am working on beagleboard, i have installed ubuntu 11.04 image which was provided by vendor, now problem is i want to compile kerenl module for that but i m not able to get kerenl files in /lib/modules
Apr 20 11:13:23 <aks_> even i not able to find source of that kernel
Apr 20 11:13:57 <aks_> kernel version is 2.6.32
Apr 20 11:24:09 <aks__> hello all,
Apr 20 11:24:19 <aks__> i am working on beagleboard
Apr 20 11:24:35 <aks__> i have installed ubuntu 11.04 image
Apr 20 11:24:54 <aks__> on it which done not have kernel source
Apr 20 11:25:03 <aks__> kernel version is 2.6.32
Apr 20 11:25:17 <aks__> i want to compile kernel module
Apr 20 11:25:52 <aks__> but i dont find kernel source image in installed image
Apr 20 11:26:00 <aks__> so how can i do that
Apr 20 19:44:11 * Snark wonders if emacs runs on ubuntu-touch
Apr 20 20:34:43 <pinportal_> hello, can I install Lubuntu in a CPU WM8650?
Apr 20 20:36:22 <pinportal_> WM8650 = 600Mhz ARM926EJ-S processor
Apr 20 20:37:47 <ogra_> nope, ubuntu (or lubuntu in that case) only supports ARMv7 and newer ... yours is a v5
Apr 20 20:37:54 <ogra_> (see channel topic)
Apr 20 20:54:34 <phillw> ogra_: thanks, I only know to send ARM questions here :) pinportal_ I have had a dig around, and it seems that debian sid should work, this is the link http://wm8650.net/index.php?newsid=444
Apr 20 20:58:17 <darkfader> i think i ripped one of those out of a nas box, they had a "netbsd.bin" in their fw package
Apr 20 20:58:33 <darkfader> but i never got up my spirit to hack at it
Apr 20 21:02:06 <pinportal_> so I can install on WM8650 tablet?
Apr 20 21:06:38 <k1l> pinportal_: no. no ubuntu
Apr 20 21:16:52 <pinportal_> it is bad :(
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