**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon May 20 02:59:59 2013 May 20 07:39:09 hi all May 20 07:39:45 I'm reading abou ubuntu and arm, but it's the arm image a full desktop or just a server without X? May 20 07:40:51 Which "the ARM image" are you referring to? May 20 07:42:18 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM this one May 20 07:42:34 i have an allwinner10 tablet, it's a pengpod, and I'm running debian+lxde on it. May 20 07:42:38 We ship an image for Pandas that's a full desktop, and then some proof of concept ubuntu-touch images that are tablet/phone images, and then we ship netboot stuff for a few platforms that you might call "server". May 20 07:43:31 elwood: The OMAP, mx53, and ac100 images listed there are desktop images. May 20 07:43:51 elwood: But given that you don't want an INSTALLER image anyway, since we can't boot on your hardware, the point's probably moot. May 20 07:43:52 infinity: so I have just to try if they are booting for my hw? May 20 07:44:03 elwood: None of them will boot on an A10. May 20 07:44:20 elwood: I can save you the trouble, if you were hoping for a bootable image, we don't ship one that works for you. May 20 07:45:11 infinity: so I have to create an image on my own or there is no possibility at all? May 20 07:46:22 elwood: Creating an installer image seems like a bit of a waste of time for just you. If I were you, since you clearly have a kernel that works (which we don't ship for the A10), and a Debian installation, I'd debootstrap saucy to a subdirectory, chroot in, and play around a bit. May 20 07:46:46 elwood: Likely will still be a bit of fail there unless you also have 3D drivers, etc. May 20 07:46:54 yes I have a debian wheezy working May 20 07:47:08 with mali/opengl support May 20 07:47:50 Kay, well. If you can make that go, you can probably also make Ubunty go. I'd just scrap the idea of trying to create an "image", and instead just piece together a manual install, but that's just me. May 20 07:48:21 Not sure what the state of A10 support in the multiplatform kernel is, but if that's improving, maybe we can enable it for raring. May 20 07:48:50 Even then, we'd also need to sort out bootloaders and other messes, which is platform-dependant, not SoC-dependant, so you'd probably still be in manual install land. May 20 07:49:29 yes, I mean manual install with create an image, I've expressed wrong. English is not my language :) May 20 07:50:17 Sure, well, the easiest manual ways to go would be to either debootstrap something on your Debian system, or download and untar ubuntu-core to a subdirectory on your Debian system, and then play from there. May 20 07:50:38 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/releases/13.04/release/ May 20 07:51:20 so there are packs for arm? May 20 07:51:30 Neither one of those is quite "installing", per se, but the next move from there could be to try to jame your kernel and driver into an Ubuntu rootfs and deplace Debian with it, if you wanted. May 20 07:54:45 ok so I'll try, thanks for the suggestions **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue May 21 02:59:58 2013