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Nov 23 05:21:29 <bhag_> How to build custom images for arm boards with ssh server and custom username and password on boot
Nov 23 06:49:04 <Nothing_Much> How come I can't upgrade my Ubuntu 13.10 kernel on Armhf?
Nov 23 06:52:26 <Nothing_Much> Is there a problem with the dependencies for Armhf?
Nov 23 08:27:08 <infinity> Nothing_Much: Upgrade it to what?
Nov 23 17:13:17 <Nothing_Much> infinity: Upgrade the Linux kernel from 3.4 to 3.11
Nov 23 17:17:04 <infinity> Nothing_Much: On what device?  Is this Ubuntu touch?
Nov 23 17:17:16 <infinity> Nothing_Much: Touch uses Android kernels, and they lag behind upstream a lot.
Nov 23 17:17:22 <Nothing_Much> Ubuntu desktop on an Odroid-XU
Nov 23 17:17:44 <infinity> Nothing_Much: Oh, that's not a device supported by Ubuntu at all, so talk to the person you got the kernel from. :P
Nov 23 17:18:18 <Nothing_Much> infinity: What do you mean?
Nov 23 17:18:58 <Nothing_Much> Why can't I just upgrade my kernel from Synaptic?
Nov 23 17:19:01 <infinity> Nothing_Much: I mean exactly what I said.  The kernel on that device didn't come from Ubuntu.
Nov 23 17:19:32 <infinity> ARM isn't like x86, different platforms need (sometimes wildly) different kernels.
Nov 23 17:19:38 <infinity> We only support a small number of platforms.
Nov 23 17:19:45 <Nothing_Much> Ah
Nov 23 17:19:55 <infinity> Your device isn't one of them.  So, wherever you got that kernel/image from, they're the people to talk to.
Nov 23 17:19:55 <Nothing_Much> Well, would compiling my own Kernel be good enough?
Nov 23 17:20:10 <infinity> Sure, if you compiled it from sources with support for your board.
Nov 23 17:20:16 <infinity> I suspect it's not entirely supported upstream.
Nov 23 17:21:06 <Nothing_Much> I'm not sure I understand, can I just copy the Linux kernel from github or.. wherever Linus holds the kernel and clone it and compile it?
Nov 23 17:22:48 <highvoltage> Nothing_Much: I think that's the point infinity is making, you can't do that, since you'll need the patches from the manufacturer of your board
Nov 23 17:23:12 <Nothing_Much> Ohh..
Nov 23 17:23:37 <Nothing_Much> Is it possible that Arm would become as easy as x86?
Nov 23 17:25:21 <highvoltage> I think devicetree in the linux kernel is meant to make it somewhat easier, but it doesn't really stop manufacturers from doing weird or completely different things
Nov 23 17:27:24 <infinity> ARMv7 is slowly getting better, but we'll never be able to support ALL boards from one kernel, mainly because once a board is done, no one cares anymore except hobbyists who buy it.
Nov 23 17:27:34 <infinity> ARMv8 should be as easy as x86.  At some point.
Nov 23 22:10:55 <IamTrying> I have Beagle Board - which has a flash card, when i switch on. Does not show anything at all. How can i install Ubuntu 13.x on it please?
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