**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 25 02:59:58 2014 Mar 25 10:00:23 hi Mar 25 10:00:34 i have a cubieboard1. i installed this: lubuntu-server-13.06-v1.01 which runs the 3.4.43+ kernel what has no apt-get installable headers. but i need a kernel with headers to install the liplinian driver package. Mar 25 10:01:15 so ask the person that created your image Mar 25 10:01:37 can i install kernel on it? how? Mar 25 10:01:42 (this is not an ubuntu image, someone externally has built it ) Mar 25 10:03:34 why on earth are there kernels without headers anyway? :D Mar 25 10:04:02 there definitely are headers ... the person who created your kernel surely has them :) Mar 25 10:04:31 (or had at least, when the kernel was built) Mar 25 10:06:05 im just confused.. i downloaded loads of images for the cubieboard1 but all are running on this headerless kernel. (i mean it doesnt have like not apt-get installable which is for me linux noob the only way to get i guess) Mar 25 10:10:20 well, there are no official images for the cubieboard from ubuntu ... and there is no kernel for it in the ubuntu archive Mar 25 10:10:48 if some third person creates an image at home we cant help much, you need to find that person to give you the headers Mar 25 10:10:59 or the kernel source ... Mar 25 10:13:07 i will. and i will http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsXKAtpLm4I Mar 25 15:20:47 Hi Mar 25 15:21:03 I'd like to package my software for distribution on ubuntu for ARM Mar 25 15:21:21 with ubuntu-based ARM thin clients in mind Mar 25 15:21:45 which versions of ubuntu should I target, which variants of ARM should I build for? Mar 25 15:22:32 and especially, which ARM systems are the most well supported by ubuntu. I'm looking for a system that would actually have proper GPU acceleration Mar 25 16:14:32 awakecoding: target: trusty (as development) and saucy (as latest released) at least. may also consider precise (last lts) Mar 25 16:14:42 and care about armhf Mar 25 16:15:09 hrw: ok, thanks. are there qemu images available? what's the best way to cross-compile? Mar 25 16:15:37 I do not track ubuntu development for quite long time Mar 25 16:15:59 there are some armhf images but how to run them in qemu? provide own kernel probably Mar 25 16:16:58 ok Mar 25 16:17:06 is there a recommended platform for using ubuntu on ARM? Mar 25 16:18:07 I was asking yesterday in #linaro and even today GPU acceleration is a huge issue on the vast majority of linux boards Mar 25 16:18:29 no GPU acceleration == it's going to suck as a thin client Mar 25 16:21:31 define GPU acceleration Mar 25 16:21:45 2D? 3D as OpenGL? 3D as OpenGLES? Mar 25 16:25:04 hrw: mostly 2D, but 3D affects the general usage of the desktop, especially with unity Mar 25 16:25:39 for unity I would go to local store and buy x86 hardware Mar 25 16:25:47 but I am known as not a fan of unity Mar 25 16:26:15 putting unity aside, let's say it's used with a more lightweight desktop, if the X11 environment is unaccelerated, it's still going to cause performance problems Mar 25 16:31:07 take the utilite pro for instance, I've got one of those, it's pretty neat, but no GPU acceleration is a bummer: http://utilite-computer.com/web/utilite-models Mar 25 16:31:23 if it had GPU acceleration I could make an amazing thin client out of it **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Mar 26 02:59:59 2014