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Mar 31 11:21:37 <hvn2> hi, is there a difference between kernels on arm and x86, apart from the cpu ? My custom kernel 3.10.18 runs mostly fine on both, but apt-get downloads, verifies, gets deps and at point of installing, it hangs/stalls. On x86, same kernel, all goes fine.
Mar 31 17:40:01 <ndec> hi ogra_ , how do you write the ubuntu 'rootfs' image file? with fastboot? how do you manage large  partition size?
Mar 31 17:40:32 <ogra_> are you talking about ubuntu touch ?
Mar 31 17:44:30 <ndec> yes.
Mar 31 17:45:01 <ndec> these days, i am using a board that has fastboot only, and I need to flash ubuntu .img onto it.
Mar 31 17:45:12 <ndec> my images are not ubuntu touch.. but that doesn't matter for flashing
Mar 31 17:45:19 <ndec> ogra_: ^
Mar 31 17:46:12 <ogra_> well, touch uses a very special initrd which kind of does parts of the container setup
Mar 31 17:47:02 <ndec> but how do you flash the ubuntu rootfs?
Mar 31 17:47:11 <ndec> and how big is it
Mar 31 17:48:12 <ogra_> bzr branch lp:project-rootstock-ng
Mar 31 17:48:21 <ogra_> take a look at rootstock-touch-install
Mar 31 17:51:08 <ndec> ogra_: so you don't use fastboot flash?
Mar 31 17:51:49 <ogra_> only for recovery
Mar 31 17:52:04 <ogra_> (well, boot.img and recovery in fact)
Mar 31 17:52:40 <ogra_> the installer is "source: goget-ubuntu-touch binary: ubuntu-device-flash"
Mar 31 17:53:01 <ndec> ogra_: the ubuntu FS resides on userdata?
Mar 31 17:53:15 <ogra_> in case you want to see the actual install process (but that wont help you without the knowledge from rootstock which shows how the ubuntu-system.img is assembled)
Mar 31 17:53:37 <ogra_> the ubuntu fs is a loop mounted img file in userdata
Mar 31 17:54:21 <ndec> ok. i see.
Mar 31 17:55:03 <ndec> why is that, btw. why do you need a file and loop mount, vs putting the content in userdata?
Mar 31 18:19:49 <ogra_> nethe OTA system uses img diffs
Mar 31 18:19:57 <ogra_> *the
Mar 31 18:20:48 <ogra_> we used the loop mounted imgs because you cant really force people to repartition ... it wont be like that for *real* ubuntu phones
Mar 31 18:21:13 <ogra_> as long as we offer nexus installs these go with loop mounts
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