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Apr 16 13:45:14 <angs> I have an armel processor and I will use qemu emulator on x64 ubuntu 13.10. do I need to add dpkg --add-architecture armhf for armel?
Apr 16 13:45:38 <angs> if I run dpkg --add-architecture armel, it outputs "W: Failed to fetch http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/saucy-updates/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-armel/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)" when I run apt-get update
Apr 16 13:45:52 <ogra_> there is no support for aarmel in ubuntu anymore
Apr 16 13:45:55 <ogra_> *armel
Apr 16 13:47:44 <angs> is armhf better than armel? why ubuntu does not support it anymore
Apr 16 13:49:08 <ogra_> its not "better" they support different things ... and are optimized for different hardware
Apr 16 13:50:03 <angs> I see thank you
Apr 16 13:50:03 <angs> my purpose is to run qemu emulator to run debian 7.4(armel) on ubuntu 13.10(x86). can I do it on ubuntu?
Apr 16 13:50:06 <ogra_> armel supports older hardware but is not optimized for the latest ...
Apr 16 13:50:19 <ogra_> ubuntu armhf only runs on ARMv7 hardware and newer
Apr 16 13:50:31 <ogra_> sure
Apr 16 13:50:48 <ogra_> you just needs to install the right qemu
Apr 16 13:51:19 <angs> I installed qemu-user-static
Apr 16 13:51:23 <ogra_> and then follow whatever debian emulator howto you have
Apr 16 13:51:33 <ogra_> qemu-user.static is for chroots
Apr 16 13:51:40 <ogra_> not for a full VM
Apr 16 13:51:58 <ogra_> you want qemu-user-system or qemu-system
Apr 16 13:52:11 <angs> ah ok, thanks I will look into that one
Apr 16 13:52:12 <ogra_> and use the armel binary from that for your setup
Apr 16 14:19:45 <angs> ogra_ I have kernel and root files (armel) on a microSD card. can I run the linux on any GUI based VM  on my laptop (x64) that does the same thing what qemu-system does?
Apr 16 14:20:52 <ogra_> yes, qemu starts a complete virtual machine, but it is limited in what HW it supports ... whatever howto you use for brining up your debian VM should tell you though
Apr 16 14:22:43 <angs> thank you
Apr 16 19:08:15 <arg_> Hi , I am using Ubuntu 14.04 beta-2 arm root file system and facing an error . I see an empty desktop with just a mouse pointer .If I stop lightdm and manually run X , I see the X window. I am using the default modesetting driver and not sure if its driver issue. Can anyone please help me with this issue with lightdm/driver issue ?
Apr 16 19:56:30 <arg_> Hi , I am using Ubuntu 14.04 beta-2 arm root file system and facing an error . I see an empty desktop with just a mouse pointer .If I stop lightdm and manually run X , I see the X window. I  am using the default modesetting driver and not sure if its driver issue. Can anyone please help me with this issue with lightdm/driver issue ?
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