**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 03 02:59:59 2014 Sep 03 05:14:42 hello. I have not used my pandaboard in a year and was wondering if anyone had an idea how it would perform with 14.04 Sep 03 06:56:15 nikko_01: Headless or desktop? Sep 03 06:56:29 nikko_01: As a headless machine, they still perform really well, and are quite handy. Sep 03 06:57:17 nikko_01: For desktop/gui type use, the situation's a bit crap, cause TI dropped support on the floor for OMAP4 quite a long while back, which means no more sketchy binary drivers which means no more 3D drivers at all, since there isn't an open source powervr driver. Sep 03 06:58:29 infinity: so the situation has not changed. I did want to use it to build my UI as well as real-time embedded processor. Sep 03 06:58:52 nikko_01: So, you can run a desktop that doesn't demand fancy 3D performance (xubuntu, lubuntu, etc), the 2D framebuffer performance isn't awful, but no 3D and, more importantly for some usecases (set top box?), no non-free video decode acceleration. Sep 03 06:59:30 nikko_01: The situation isn't likely to improve ever, really. PowerVR doesn't play well with others. Sep 03 07:01:00 infinity: Got it. It's a shame . I have 2 of those boards. I assume the same is true with beagleboard Xm? Sep 03 07:01:26 Not sure that video's on the XM, or the state thereof. Sep 03 07:02:12 I tink it is the same chip or earlier generation if I am not mistaken Sep 03 07:02:28 But pretty much anything who's upstream status is "nothing but a non-free driver", we're not shipping any of those, and for most of them, it's because it's usually an unsupported non-free driver that only works with a kernel from 4 years ago. Sep 03 07:03:27 Infinity: Thanks for the info. Any arm board in those price ranges you know of? Sep 03 07:04:21 Haven't kept track of the latest and greatest. Sep 03 07:04:46 But free Mali drivers are starting to not suck, AFAIK, so in the future, I'd look for SoCs with Mali GPUs. Sep 03 07:04:47 ok. thanks for the info again. Sep 03 07:05:02 Though, today, unless you're really into hacking together stuff and playing a LOT, pretty much everything sucks. Sep 03 07:05:34 Except if you take a device that you know works with, say, Android or ChromeOS, and violently shoehorn their drivers and kernel into Ubuntu. Sep 03 07:05:39 Which is actually a lot less fun than it sounds. Sep 03 07:05:41 I don't recommend it. Sep 03 07:06:19 does not sound like fun **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Sep 04 02:59:58 2014