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Sep 10 03:02:02 <mjrosenb> infinity: so you both display the warning that the upgrade may nuke the video, and don't upgrade the kernel so the video doesn't get nuked?
Sep 10 03:12:29 <infinity> mjrosenb: There was a warning too?
Sep 10 03:12:34 <infinity> mjrosenb: In that case, yes!
Sep 10 03:12:51 <infinity> mjrosenb: It was a while ago since we took these decisions, it's all fuzzy now. :P
Sep 10 03:13:31 <mjrosenb> infinity: just covering all of your bases :-p
Sep 10 03:13:44 <mjrosenb> at least, there was a warning when I tried to do it through the gui.
Sep 10 03:13:51 <mjrosenb> I didn't check when I ran do-release-upgrade.
Sep 10 03:14:02 <infinity> mjrosenb: I think the "don't bother upgrading" thing was based on an assumption that the intersection of people who use Pandas and people who care about security updates was probably lower than the intersection of people using them as media devices/etc and people who didn't care about security.
Sep 10 03:14:59 <infinity> mjrosenb: That, and that people using them as build servers and such were typically nerdy enough to ask/search and get the right answer to get the new kernel.
Sep 10 03:14:59 <mjrosenb> oh, the new kernel is pulling in all sorts of new goodies.
Sep 10 03:15:02 <mjrosenb> at least a new libc.
Sep 10 03:15:11 <infinity> New libc?  *blink*
Sep 10 03:15:16 <infinity> That should already have been there. :P
Sep 10 03:15:31 <infinity> Sounds more like your upgrade only half finished.
Sep 10 03:15:42 <infinity> Which is likely, given the error you got.
Sep 10 03:15:48 <infinity> A dist-upgrade might not be a bad plan.
Sep 10 03:15:54 <mjrosenb> Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.19-0ubuntu6.3) ...
Sep 10 03:15:55 <mjrosenb> maybe.
Sep 10 03:16:06 <infinity> Oh, no.  Triggers != new package.
Sep 10 03:16:20 <infinity> Triggers are, well, triggers.  That's ldconfig running, in the libc case.
Sep 10 03:17:00 <mjrosenb> yeah, I saw libc scroll by, and spoke
Sep 10 03:17:05 <mjrosenb> then I looked at what it said.
Sep 10 03:17:07 <mjrosenb> Setting up libunwind8 (1.1-2.2ubuntu3) ...
Sep 10 03:17:10 <mjrosenb> that's new though.
Sep 10 03:17:19 <infinity> unwind would be a new -tools dep.
Sep 10 03:17:29 <infinity> Don't recall what links it, but probably perf.
Sep 10 03:17:39 <infinity> Cause perf links in half the world.
Sep 10 03:17:50 <infinity> Rather bloated little binary for a kernel tool.
Sep 10 03:18:09 <mjrosenb> that being said.
Sep 10 03:18:10 <mjrosenb> Kernel /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-35-generic does not match your subarchitecture
Sep 10 03:18:10 <mjrosenb> omap4, therefore not writing it to flash.
Sep 10 03:18:14 <mjrosenb> does not sound good.
Sep 10 03:20:08 <infinity> Oh, Paolo, way to go.
Sep 10 03:20:22 <infinity> I bet that's a chicken and egg issue he didn't notice with flash-kernel.
Sep 10 03:20:48 <infinity> Basically, I assume it's looking for the DTB version of the board name, not the old version, and you don't get that until you boot with a DTB.
Sep 10 03:21:35 <infinity> A hand-edit of /usr/share/flash-kernel/all.db (or whatever, tab complete a bit) to make the old OMAP4 entry match the new one (ie: make both Machie: types do the same thjings with the generic kernel, etc) should fix it.
Sep 10 03:21:49 <infinity> Then if it gets overwritten in an upgrade, no big deal, cause you'll have the new Machine ID.
Sep 10 03:22:04 <infinity> Amazed no one else has tripped on that, or cared enough to report it.
Sep 10 03:24:55 <mjrosenb> infinity: if you point me at a bug reporter, I can file it (5 months after 14.04 was released)
Sep 10 03:25:34 <infinity> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flash-kernel/+filebug
Sep 10 03:27:02 <mjrosenb> infinity: ... I copied that, then typed in bugzilla.mozilla.org
Sep 10 03:28:01 <mjrosenb> "type the two words" it is a picture of a house, with 119 on it.
Sep 10 03:29:57 <mjrosenb> ok, really, what is it with recapcha giving me nothing but a single street address?
Sep 10 03:30:25 <mjrosenb> evidently, I cannot file a bug because I cannot create an account
Sep 10 03:30:29 <mjrosenb> since I am not a human.
Sep 10 03:45:50 <mjrosenb> infinity: ok, I'm once again stumped.  all.db doesn't exist on the filesystem, and all directories belonging to flash-kernel don't seem to have anything that looks like a database in it
Sep 10 04:13:32 <mjrosenb>                                 if [ `expr "$kfile" : '.*linaro.*-omap$'` -ne 0 ]; then
Sep 10 04:13:36 <mjrosenb>                                         check_subarch "omap"
Sep 10 04:13:38 <mjrosenb>                                 else
Sep 10 04:13:40 <mjrosenb>                                         check_subarch "omap4"
Sep 10 04:13:50 <mjrosenb> looks like it is /explicitly/ checking against omap and omap4.
Sep 10 05:04:18 * mjrosenb wonders where these people infinity said would be coming on line in a bit :-p
Sep 10 05:05:18 <mjrosenb> ugh. looks like I need to recover my pandaboard.
Sep 10 05:07:14 <mjrosenb> infinity mentioned that upgrading to 14.04 if ubuntu is installed on a usb disk should be pretty easy
Sep 10 05:40:58 <mjrosenb> blast, as soon as I get to Starting kernel ...
Sep 10 05:41:15 <mjrosenb> it drops the serial connection
Sep 10 05:41:28 * mjrosenb guesses he needs to configure the kernel to spew to serial
Sep 10 05:56:10 <mjrosenb> baudrate=115200
Sep 10 05:56:21 <mjrosenb> that is already in the kernel arguments... that does not bode well.
Sep 10 05:56:34 <mjrosenb> err, no.
Sep 10 05:56:58 <mjrosenb> no, bootargs is controlling uboot.
Sep 10 05:59:57 <mjrosenb> ah, I don't know how printenv works.
Sep 10 06:00:03 <mjrosenb> thete is no bootargs.
Sep 10 06:00:06 <mjrosenb> that sounds bad.
Sep 10 07:41:46 <mjrosenb> anyone up/home yet?
Sep 10 10:35:42 <mjrosenb> is 14.04 supposed to use uEnv.txt on the pandaboard?
Sep 10 11:07:09 <mjrosenb> argh, I really wish I knew why this is failing with an unhelpful error message.
Sep 10 21:41:22 <mjrosenb> infinity: you back yet?
Sep 10 21:41:52 <mjrosenb> (I think you're the only other person I've seen talk in here since I joined.)
Sep 10 21:59:26 <infinity> mjrosenb: I'm aroundish, but pretty busy.
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