**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Sep 19 02:59:59 2009 Sep 19 02:59:59 Decimation, in fact, I've seen accounts with _so much tenure_, that each line got an upgrade each year Sep 19 03:00:16 yeah, my brothers line gets an upgrade each year. Sep 19 03:00:28 but he's been on it for like.. 4 years. Sep 19 03:00:37 The short answer is, don't count on it... it's not terribly popular for family shares to have more than 1 line with premier benefits Sep 19 03:00:58 alternatively, sprint can fix that. complain a lot Sep 19 03:01:07 :P will do Sep 19 03:01:28 i still need to call and complain about service in my house to get an airave. Sep 19 03:01:57 and im going to the store tomorrow to show them the dead pixels on my screen, along with the broken screen on/off button Sep 19 03:02:04 although i love the phone, ive had a lot of issues with it Sep 19 03:02:21 this one that i have now that is messed up is my 5th Sep 19 03:02:30 * zsoc has only had 1 pre Sep 19 03:02:41 i might switch the hero if it keeps up. Sep 19 03:03:49 wow, hehe. My phone has been fine so far. Sep 19 03:04:09 what were the problems with your phones, decimation ? Sep 19 03:04:33 dead pixels, broken screen lock buttons, broke middle button. Sep 19 03:04:49 my phone would randomly restart on one. Sep 19 03:04:51 i am not sure if my middle button is broken .. Sep 19 03:05:06 bpadalino: mine didnt do anything... lol Sep 19 03:05:19 i never push mine so i wouldn't know :( Sep 19 03:05:24 that middle button shouldn't be necessary Sep 19 03:05:24 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYV9NNoI8Hc <- shes a beauty Sep 19 03:05:32 the Pixi doesn't use it Sep 19 03:05:41 tharris-: pong Sep 19 03:05:43 tlp: its part of the phone, and it broke. Sep 19 03:05:46 * zsoc wonders what odd irc client Decimation is using that he doesn't realize private message windows Sep 19 03:05:49 that shouldnt happen. Sep 19 03:06:11 * Decimation thinks zsoc should put a sock in it :) Sep 19 03:06:45 * zsoc had something useful to suggest :< Sep 19 03:07:41 * geist yawns into the channel Sep 19 03:09:00 geist: sleepy or just bored? :) Sep 19 03:09:12 decompressing from work this week Sep 19 03:09:46 rough weeks were had by many this week Sep 19 03:09:58 i got the flu :( Sep 19 03:10:49 h1n1? Sep 19 03:10:53 * zsoc hides the kids Sep 19 03:11:03 flu is bad Sep 19 03:11:16 i broke stuff at work and was disappointed Sep 19 03:11:34 flu is horrible - especially when its your first full week of high school and you miss the first test in each of your classes. Sep 19 03:11:49 Decimation: probably good to get it over with Sep 19 03:11:54 supposedly h1n1 is pretty mild all in all Sep 19 03:12:08 True that, just bad for young and old, just like most flus. Sep 19 03:12:11 zsoc: the majority of flu IS h1n1 Sep 19 03:12:29 Honestly, I'm surprised the human race is still alive, with all that's going against us (mostly caused _by_ us) Sep 19 03:12:33 it's a specific h1n1 strain that people are freaking out about Sep 19 03:12:43 destinal, that's true, but I wasn't going to get into that Sep 19 03:12:46 people are freaking out because people are stupid Sep 19 03:13:25 i heard it was some school kids who on a playground dare making out with pigs that caused this whole mess Sep 19 03:13:34 yeah, and the funny thing is this happened back in 1976 with another swine flu Sep 19 03:13:44 Same thing with bacterial infections tho. People are like OMG ANTIBIOTICS even tho 90% of the time they are unnecessary. Sep 19 03:13:47 no big deal then either but people freaking out over nothing Sep 19 03:14:12 has nothing to do with pigs at all Sep 19 03:14:16 Sooo webOS internals... lol Sep 19 03:14:25 yeah, web os Sep 19 03:14:27 good OS Sep 19 03:14:39 the pig growers of america were pleading with the media to stop calling it swine flu Sep 19 03:14:46 apparently there's a big hit in the market as a result Sep 19 03:14:52 since people are stupid, they dont eat pigs now Sep 19 03:15:02 cheap bbq sounds good Sep 19 03:15:03 I wub my bacon Sep 19 03:15:06 geist, that's very true, unfortunately Sep 19 03:15:20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_qJ2tOY7ss&feature=player_embedded Sep 19 03:15:26 supposedly china stopped all imports from the US over it Sep 19 03:15:48 no more pork fried rice? :( Sep 19 03:16:08 bacon is sooo good. Sep 19 03:16:10 mmm, pork fried rice Sep 19 03:16:44 more for you here in the US .. but you'll miss it next time you get shipped off to china Sep 19 03:16:51 lets hope rod doesn't come in a find us chatting it up about non-webos-interals stuff. Sep 19 03:17:08 Decimation: this will go down on our permanent records Sep 19 03:17:16 he's got the logs .. Sep 19 03:17:21 destinal: NOT THE PERMANENT RECORDS Sep 19 03:17:26 bpadalino: yeah, actually gotta get a new visa soon Sep 19 03:17:26 he'll grep us Sep 19 03:17:39 bpadalino: yeah, but thats after the fact - when im not here. Sep 19 03:17:40 still haven't filled out my expense report from last time Sep 19 03:17:42 geist, hopefully they don't send you during the holidays Sep 19 03:17:58 yeah well, when the factory wants to work, it works Sep 19 03:18:01 geist: what do you do over in china? Sep 19 03:18:03 holidays are for the weak Sep 19 03:18:17 i push people off 12 story buildings Sep 19 03:18:24 oh wait. i mean.. err Sep 19 03:18:31 fun stufff. Sep 19 03:18:55 usually i'm there just to be a sw guy around when stuff goes wrong Sep 19 03:20:27 it is nice having manufacturing 3 minutes down the road .. that's for sure Sep 19 03:21:14 helps with reworks too Sep 19 03:25:41 yah Sep 19 03:25:58 for a while at danger we used flextronics, which are in the area in san jose Sep 19 03:26:59 destinal, was that a Violent Femmes reference? Sep 19 03:27:41 zsoc: actually yeah that was the line going through my head :P Sep 19 03:28:04 * zsoc high fives destinal Sep 19 03:28:16 i was thinking of that movie, but that was actually 'they'll DOCK YA' Sep 19 03:28:25 hudsucker proxy Sep 19 03:36:03 weird Sep 19 03:46:27 rwhitby: (again, referencing http://webos.pastebin.com/m3d8370af) j==v1.length && j==v2.length isn't possible since lastv=max(v1.length,v2.length), and j is always < lastv. Sep 19 03:47:57 later all Sep 19 03:54:36 geist: cool. /sbin/tokens on an emulator is happy to load from an image of the nvram area of a pre . not surprising but cool. Sep 19 04:02:59 yep Sep 19 04:03:10 it's just a simple data structure, you could easily figure it out if you looked at it with a hex editor Sep 19 04:03:27 actually yeah, did that some months back Sep 19 04:03:43 how we found the "obey" picture :) Sep 19 04:03:58 yep, though it should also be sitting in a .tga file in /boot Sep 19 04:04:13 it doesn't strictly speaking need to be in the file system except it makes the .ipkg stuff work Sep 19 04:04:26 needs a file to know that it's installed Sep 19 04:04:29 ah Sep 19 04:04:48 as you can probably guess, bootie reads the nvram structure too Sep 19 04:04:56 that's where it grabs the logos from Sep 19 04:05:12 and if bootie didn't have fs support, i would have probably tossed the kernel in there too Sep 19 04:05:20 but since it can read from ext3 directly, it's not necessary Sep 19 04:05:24 yeah, I noticed the battery calibration stuff in there as wel Sep 19 04:05:27 well Sep 19 04:06:17 BATToCH BATToRSP' Sep 19 04:06:23 yeah Sep 19 04:06:33 i have no idea why they use 'o' as the space delimiter Sep 19 04:06:41 that's some weirdo legacy palm thing Sep 19 04:07:31 interesting, I guess the accelerometers must vary chip to chip if there's a calibration token Sep 19 04:07:42 i think so, yeah Sep 19 04:07:49 v\owelsomakeog\o\odospaceodelimiters Sep 19 04:07:55 think the light sensor does too Sep 19 04:12:40 oh, tokens command is overloaded into the trenchcoat binary Sep 19 04:57:33 has anyone attempted the on screen keyboard patch with 1.2? Sep 19 04:57:42 I have... error 4 Sep 19 04:58:26 I guess there is just too many discrepencies between 1.1 and 1.2 Sep 19 04:58:38 discrepancies too Sep 19 05:08:29 RTFM Sep 19 05:09:30 sorry good night Sep 19 06:12:41 hey its darth pooh Sep 19 06:12:59 i accidentially just napped for 4 hours Sep 19 06:30:26 any of you getting error when installing the new keyboard ? Sep 19 08:11:11 this channel is surprisingly quiet... Sep 19 08:15:37 lot of east coasters on here. seems like it Sep 19 08:15:49 yeah Sep 19 08:29:19 oil: Sorry, that was me. Sep 19 08:29:24 I had to have a number of them killed. Sep 19 08:29:48 Too chatty. Sep 19 08:29:56 You know what rwhitby thinks of those types. Sep 19 08:32:41 lol Sep 19 09:36:05 hey , anyone knows if palm's graphics lib or webkit has abstraction interface for IM Sep 19 09:41:36 hey oil Sep 19 09:41:39 I feel implementing input method for CJK language on webos's framework is more challenging and interesting Sep 19 09:41:46 Dot Game is played on paper here in Oz Sep 19 09:41:51 and is known as "Boxes" Sep 19 09:42:06 why'd you pick "Dot Game", out of curiosity? Sep 19 09:42:14 (i'm writing a post on the app catalog updates) Sep 19 09:42:21 for uh Sep 19 09:42:24 lack of a better name? Sep 19 09:42:29 lol Sep 19 09:42:34 it was from memory Sep 19 09:42:45 and im pretty sure we called it dot game as a kid Sep 19 09:42:51 freaks Sep 19 09:43:03 :P Sep 19 09:43:06 wikipedia calls it "dots and boxes" Sep 19 09:43:23 and lists a bunch of other aka's Sep 19 09:43:30 hmmmm Sep 19 09:43:38 * freakout edits Wikipedia to reflect the true name Sep 19 09:43:44 lol Sep 19 09:43:56 I <3 Wikipedia Sep 19 09:44:02 It can bend reality to your will Sep 19 09:44:08 until some prissy jerk reverts it Sep 19 09:44:12 * oil edits your edit to have the real real name Sep 19 09:44:33 * freakout edits the edit of my edit to call oil a douche Sep 19 09:44:43 lol Sep 19 09:44:49 * freakout also throws in "Dot Game stinks" Sep 19 09:44:58 * oil gets others in on the edit war till its locked and then reverted to what it is now Sep 19 09:45:06 lolol Sep 19 09:45:10 I got banned from Wiki once Sep 19 09:45:22 or i add [citation needed] after your edit to the title Sep 19 09:45:28 For consistently making insulting edits to the webpage of a local conservative politician Sep 19 09:46:00 ooo, the [citation needed] bomb Sep 19 09:46:03 deadly. Sep 19 09:46:16 anyway, I'm going to call Dot Game "crazy-addictive" Sep 19 09:46:22 So stick that in your pipe and smoke it. Sep 19 09:48:13 lol Sep 19 10:40:20 * rwhitby marks up the permanent records ... Sep 19 10:40:45 ? Sep 19 10:40:56 backlog Sep 19 10:44:24 so Sep 19 10:44:28 config confirmation Sep 19 10:44:47 any news on the 1.2 update? Sep 19 10:44:56 I really expected that to release since it leaked... Sep 19 10:48:19 rwhitby: http://i36.tinypic.com/2cg2ec2.png Sep 19 10:48:46 oil: what happens if the url is too long? Sep 19 10:49:10 it ...'s the end of it Sep 19 10:49:14 cool Sep 19 10:49:21 looks good. Sep 19 10:49:22 i figure the domain is more important Sep 19 10:49:26 yep Sep 19 10:49:26 then whats at hte end Sep 19 10:49:35 its not exactly functional yet Sep 19 10:49:38 it doesn't return anything Sep 19 10:49:44 i figured you would built hte methods, etc Sep 19 10:49:48 then it can be added easily Sep 19 10:50:00 ok Sep 19 10:50:57 and i changed Sep 19 10:50:57 http://i35.tinypic.com/29d9vnm.png Sep 19 10:51:18 oh, we can have multiple feed lines per config file (e.g. all and armv7) - do we handle that, or just make people create two conf files? Sep 19 10:51:35 id say make them create two Sep 19 10:51:40 easier all around that way Sep 19 10:52:27 i setup the feed confirmation to recieve Sep 19 10:52:28 config: 'Example Feed', url: 'http://example.com/feed/all', type: 'install', hash: '5aa072ab2370003ae18f8637bad10589' Sep 19 10:53:04 the service method is going to need a filename too, just like the ones passed to you in listconfigs Sep 19 10:53:23 that would just be what Sep 19 10:53:26 name without spaces Sep 19 10:53:28 and .conf at the end Sep 19 10:54:07 well, we don't have the concept of a multi-word feed name anywhere at the moment. Sep 19 10:54:31 we have a feed unique identifier (single word, with hyphens) Sep 19 10:54:49 and a conf file name, and a url Sep 19 10:55:10 "Example Feed" doesn't have anywhere to go Sep 19 10:55:27 the file name would just be ExampleFeed.conf Sep 19 10:55:59 Hmm - feed conf files are usually just lowercase and hyphens. Sep 19 10:56:07 so lowercase it Sep 19 10:56:08 lol Sep 19 10:56:56 I'd rather restrict what the user can type in as the name ... Sep 19 10:57:12 so that it can be used for both the identifier and the filename Sep 19 10:57:44 ok Sep 19 10:57:54 that was kind of the plan wasnt it? Sep 19 10:58:04 e.g. 'example' -> 'example.conf' Sep 19 10:58:09 right Sep 19 10:58:34 http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=services/ipkgservice.git;a=commit;h=bff18bef67088f1762b3e544eeb70a775510d845 Sep 19 10:59:22 the alternative is that we extend the feed config file format to have an optional comment at the end which stores the "Friendly Name", but that's just extra useless information for something that won't be used that often. Sep 19 10:59:36 yeah, its not needed Sep 19 11:01:00 let me look in the ipkg source to see what names they use for things ... Sep 19 11:03:03 name, base_url, extra_data, gzip Sep 19 11:03:12 hmm - wonder what extra_data is ... Sep 19 11:05:43 looks like it's an extra level of directory to be added to the URL, like a Debian distro it seems Sep 19 11:06:01 so not useful for this, and I've never seen it used for embedded stuff. Sep 19 11:07:09 oil: can we change 'config' to 'name' in the confirmation, to match what ipkg calls that field? Sep 19 11:07:45 its not hard Sep 19 11:09:02 and we toggle_config based on the filename only - we're not toggling individual feeds within a config file Sep 19 11:10:07 we really need to fix our method names too - we have 'restartjava', 'list_configs' and 'confirmInstall' - three different naming schemes in the one service. Sep 19 11:10:27 what do Palm use for their services? Sep 19 11:10:44 idk Sep 19 11:11:04 they have installNoVerify, right? Sep 19 11:11:58 so we probably should use restartJava, listConfigs, and confirmInstall ... Sep 19 11:13:00 I'll add duplicate wrappers so we can transition across an apiVersion. Sep 19 11:13:20 ok Sep 19 11:13:37 just list what all is changed and i can go through and change it everywhere Sep 19 11:25:59 ok Sep 19 11:26:06 later tonight. Sep 19 11:26:27 or when i wake up tomorrow Sep 19 11:26:28 xD Sep 19 11:37:59 oil: is your stuff checked in? Sep 19 11:38:27 yeah Sep 19 11:38:54 ok, I'll take a look at it tonight. Sep 19 13:29:54 Arrrrrr! Avast, me hearties! T'day be International Talk Like A Pirate day! YHHABOR! Sep 19 13:31:14 arrrr, it be so much the more fun when it falls on a waarrrrkday. Sep 19 13:38:50 Let's see if infobot can talk like a ~pirate Sep 19 13:39:00 ~pirate Sep 19 13:39:01 So forgive me my rough mood unaccustomed to sue; I woo not, perhaps, as your landlubbers do. Sep 19 13:39:15 botsnack, I guess. Not bad Sep 19 13:46:00 ~botsnack Sep 19 13:46:00 Templarian: :) Sep 19 14:24:56 AnOutsider_AFK: ping Sep 19 14:40:01 ello Sep 19 14:59:00 rwhitby: Argg! I need a sum of 8 gold dabloons, can you lend me a hand matie? Sep 19 15:00:55 Templarian: just wanted to say thanks again for the komodo plugin Sep 19 15:01:29 a bunch of random guys on IRC are coming up with better ways to use and develop for the Pre than palm haha Sep 19 15:03:10 Arrrr - who be saying dat we be random ya scurvy-ridden land-lubber! Sep 19 15:07:58 tis I Sep 19 15:27:56 Arr - I'll be back to scrub the decks again when the sun's over the yard-arm! Goodnight, mateys! Sep 19 15:32:45 haha Sep 19 15:35:23 http://developers.slashdot.org/story/09/09/19/1345236/Python-Converted-To-JavaScript-Executed-In-Browser Sep 19 15:38:31 haha at the first comment Sep 19 17:40:20 woot, went to the sprint store Sep 19 17:40:41 ordered me a new phone, and gave me a 100 dollar discount off the next bill for all my troubles. Sep 19 17:40:51 I, LOVE, THAT, COMPANY YEAHHHHHH Sep 19 18:20:37 oil: i was suprisingly up till 5 Sep 19 18:20:40 and im an eastcoster Sep 19 18:20:43 so i would have been awake Sep 19 18:20:48 but i wasnt paying attention to irc Sep 19 18:21:06 PreGame left the chat room. (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) Sep 19 18:21:07 [04:11am] oil: this channel is surprisingly quiet... Sep 19 18:21:07 [04:15am] hmagoo: lot of east coasters on here. seems like it Sep 19 18:21:07 [04:15am] oil: yeah Sep 19 18:53:30 is a text message a alert or notification? Sep 19 18:54:59 ... Sep 19 18:55:24 well, my sound for recieving a txt message doesnt work, trying to figure out whats wrong Sep 19 18:55:40 im suing My Notification Sep 19 18:55:43 using* Sep 19 19:24:30 has anyone worked on a patch to auto-resend messages that dont send? Sep 19 19:36:35 seems like PreWare doesn't work upon launch half the time. It's stuck on "Checking Version" Sep 19 19:51:11 tlp: i guess im the only one who has NEVER had that problem Sep 19 19:52:24 hmm Sep 19 19:52:43 rebooting the phone fixed it Sep 19 19:52:50 maybe the package manager service got hosed Sep 19 20:01:29 Decimation_: I've ahd that problem plenty. It's pretty surprising the Pre doesn't handle it better. Sep 19 20:01:46 The Pre actually doesn't handle many "phone" things well. Though it's a nice little handheld computer. Sep 19 20:08:15 Decimation_: i've never had a message not send :D Sep 19 20:11:40 PuffTheMagic: while, i have :P i wish it would auto resend oppose to me having to click the message and press send again. Sep 19 20:13:41 yeah seems like a simple feature Sep 19 20:15:17 The Treo would never give up. Sometimes, annoyingly so. Sep 19 20:15:47 Does anyone have a recommendation on which Google Voice app to use? Sep 19 20:19:13 does anyone have a working emulator and ssh on it? Sep 19 20:27:12 PorkchopExpress: gdial pro Sep 19 20:47:01 gdial pro in preware is crashing ipkg Sep 19 20:47:05 funny you mention it Sep 19 20:47:17 cant anyone run ipkg -o /var info Sep 19 20:47:25 with out a segfault? Sep 19 20:47:49 run update before it Sep 19 21:35:57 Is there any good example of handling a json request and pushing it into a list? I have the json request pulling properly, and I'm having trouble getting the listWidget to automatically propgate with the data. Or, to propogate initially. Anyone have ideas? Sep 19 21:37:52 Blehk: preware does it Sep 19 22:12:27 Blehk, you just have some code that takes the json result and parses it into the list widget's model? Sep 19 22:12:35 and then call modelchanged.. Sep 19 22:12:40 not too much too it Sep 19 22:25:30 avast! Sep 19 22:25:41 (lol just had to say it) Sep 19 22:30:15 Do you think its possible for someone to replace the list of contacts when you press the button in the messaging app to have a check next to each of them? Sep 19 22:30:24 so you can check a bunch for mass text messaging. Sep 19 22:32:03 sure, of course it is Sep 19 22:32:33 not really more difficult than a lot of the patches we've already seen Sep 19 22:36:49 Keen Studios Live App Catalog Special is tonight Sep 19 22:37:01 destinal: well someone should make it :P Sep 19 22:37:02 Self Aware Games, Jason and I will be there Sep 19 22:38:07 JackieRipper: pingggggg Sep 19 22:39:28 kesne? hmm? Sep 19 22:39:59 http://keen-studios.net/live Sep 19 22:40:00 :) Sep 19 22:40:14 when is "tonight"? Sep 19 22:40:21 lol Sep 19 22:40:23 my next question Sep 19 22:40:26 hehe Sep 19 22:40:32 7pm pacific time Sep 19 22:40:50 self aware games... Sep 19 22:40:54 the word ace people? Sep 19 22:41:03 Yeah Sep 19 22:42:51 ugh, finally - solved my 4x4x4 rubiks cube Sep 19 22:42:59 Hehe Sep 19 22:43:02 Those are easy Sep 19 22:43:13 been trying to figure it out for the past week Sep 19 22:43:13 5x5x5's are only a a little harder Sep 19 22:43:29 did you just say rubik's cubes are *easy*?! Sep 19 22:43:34 * freakout feels dumber than usual Sep 19 22:43:38 freakout: they are.. Sep 19 22:43:38 lol Sep 19 22:43:54 i read how to solve a 3x3 Sep 19 22:44:06 then took that knowledge and figured out the 4x4x4 my self. Sep 19 22:45:55 freakout: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/dhmassacre Sep 19 22:46:01 look at all these beautiful solved cubes :) Sep 19 22:46:12 decimation: how about your cousin huh? Sep 19 22:46:28 Eguy: my mom went crazyyy. Sep 19 22:46:32 and he's my mom's cousin ;) Sep 19 22:47:06 lol I think the woman should of won but I liked the other stuff better lol Sep 19 22:47:59 i liked recycled percussion the most. Sep 19 22:49:39 Me too Sep 19 22:49:44 they will get signed for sure Sep 19 22:50:11 Eguy: well, it was all about getting a vegas show Sep 19 22:50:25 for vegas, they by far had it. Sep 19 22:50:32 and acrodunk too Sep 19 22:50:49 freakout: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/dhmassacre just finished my last cube - so if you wanna feel stupid :P Sep 19 22:51:17 :O Sep 19 22:51:43 ....I can spell good.... Sep 19 22:52:07 * freakout is off for breakfast Sep 19 22:53:03 im sickk :/ Sep 19 22:53:43 Swine flu? Sep 19 22:53:50 bahh idk Sep 19 22:53:52 some flu Sep 19 22:53:53 WHERE Sep 19 22:56:44 ugh, im so white - need to go tan Sep 19 22:56:45 :P Sep 19 23:06:54 AnOutsider: have you decided yet on whether or not you're going to make a PreThemer app? Sep 19 23:07:18 Decimation: go outside ;) Sep 19 23:07:28 Eguy: i doo. Sep 19 23:07:29 lol Sep 19 23:07:34 probably just whiter cause im sick. Sep 19 23:08:27 gdial for sure needs a new icon Sep 19 23:08:54 Anyone know where in the .css file to change the color background for the messaging app? Sep 19 23:10:19 Woo hoo! Sep 19 23:10:20 http://keen-studios.net/ Sep 19 23:10:24 Finally finished that Sep 19 23:10:34 Decimation: I guess I will. Folks are asking for it, and no one seems to read the repeated posts saying to remove themes before installing another Sep 19 23:10:53 sweet a live show Sep 19 23:10:56 will there be boobs Sep 19 23:11:58 Abyssul did you find it? Sep 19 23:12:03 No Sep 19 23:12:19 then keep on looking ;) Sep 19 23:12:43 lemme pop it in DW and take a look Sep 19 23:13:03 I dont have DW lol Sep 19 23:13:06 Wordpad ftw? Sep 19 23:13:11 morning Sep 19 23:13:17 There will not be boobs xD Sep 19 23:13:17 heh, I like th ecode coloring Sep 19 23:13:20 morning rod ole pal Sep 19 23:13:24 i was wondering, does anyone know where the file that stores the location of the icons on your launcher page Sep 19 23:13:29 bah, what's a show without boobs Sep 19 23:13:35 like a file stating the order and such of them Sep 19 23:13:47 Abussul: It is in /usr/palm/applications/com.palm.app.messaging ;) Sep 19 23:14:07 I know that Eguy, I need to know where in the .css file Sep 19 23:14:30 rwhitby: mornin sunshine. Sep 19 23:14:32 I know, I am giving you a hard time :P Sep 19 23:14:43 Lol thanks man. I can always count on ya :) Sep 19 23:14:56 http://webos.pastebin.com/d5788a26f could it be that? Sep 19 23:15:08 Hmm Sep 19 23:15:14 lines 568-571 Sep 19 23:15:17 Somebody just called and said I'm Gay Sep 19 23:15:22 Nope Sep 19 23:15:28 they're gay or you're gay Sep 19 23:15:38 "I'm Gay" Sep 19 23:15:41 That is a background Image me thinks Sep 19 23:15:48 I figured it would be a hex code. Sep 19 23:16:12 Me too Sep 19 23:16:17 color code Sep 19 23:16:43 well if there's currently no color (i.e. white) there's no need for a code Sep 19 23:17:06 if you change background: none; to background:#000000; you can test and see if chat entries are now black Sep 19 23:17:16 why do you want to change it? Sep 19 23:17:23 cuz he's a themer yo Sep 19 23:17:25 that's how we do Sep 19 23:19:12 http://twitter.com/precentral/statuses/4112027506 surprised to see that Sep 19 23:19:30 AnOutsider: ping Sep 19 23:19:35 pong Sep 19 23:26:32 haha Sep 19 23:27:23 AnOutsider: changing that to black made the background around some of the windows black. Sep 19 23:27:35 then not the right spot ;) Sep 19 23:27:49 I wonder if its possible Sep 19 23:27:52 hmm, i know sarahpeterman did it in one of her themes. I wonder if that's actually just an image Sep 19 23:28:04 well if it's an HTML element, it HAS to be possible Sep 19 23:28:05 She never did Sep 19 23:28:06 just an issue of how Sep 19 23:28:45