**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Nov 07 02:59:57 2009 Nov 07 03:00:40 http://forums.precentral.net/webos-patches/210774-patch-unthrottle-download-manager.html Nov 07 03:00:44 elpollodiablo1, ^^ Nov 07 03:02:12 I knew I read about that somewhere, thanks egaudet Nov 07 03:10:24 has anyone gotten any reading from the gps without being registered to a gsm network? Nov 07 03:10:38 or is the gps like part of the modem on this device? Nov 07 03:13:34 there's no mention of the gps anywhere in the kernel sources, no pins, no power managament, no serial port, nothing Nov 07 03:14:31 has anyone successfully done a portscan on the Pre? Nov 07 03:15:30 I know I asked this earlier just trying to get some more insight Nov 07 03:17:09 elpollodiablo1, what are you looking for exactly? Nov 07 03:17:43 trying to figure out what ports are open by default on the pre and if sprint is blocking any ports Nov 07 03:19:22 elpollodiablo1, sprint blocks 80, and _maybe_ 443 Nov 07 03:19:26 Anyone here have a know of Luna Know-how Nov 07 03:20:20 zsoc, you know anything about which ports are open by default on the pre? Nov 07 03:21:09 elpollodiablo1, netstat -nap ? Nov 07 03:22:17 I did that Nov 07 03:22:35 anyreason you can think of that a port scan would not know Nov 07 03:23:31 elpollodiablo1, ... are you not really a linux person? Nov 07 03:23:40 yes Nov 07 03:23:44 lol Nov 07 03:24:16 I am having problems typing tonight Nov 07 03:24:19 elpollodiablo1, netstat doesn't lie Nov 07 03:24:34 what is the ssh port on the emulator? Nov 07 03:25:56 it is port 5522 Nov 07 03:28:49 I just ran netstat on the emulator but it does not have port 5522 open are they forwarding port 5522 to 22 or something? Nov 07 03:31:07 elpollodiablo1, i can't vouch for the emulator.. it's not real ;) Nov 07 03:31:57 I was thinking it had something to do with the emulator, I will have to check it to my pre at some point Nov 07 03:50:54 ok, yes, gps is part of the modem and the only way to talk to the gps is through the modem's usb connection is seems Nov 07 03:56:14 for the record, a native kernel build takes 1h31m Nov 07 03:56:30 on the device and for the device Nov 07 03:58:22 sounds like a long time .. you should distribute it amongst a cluster of pre's Nov 07 04:04:56 What is the appid of the screen and lock settings app? Nov 07 04:07:06 com.palm.app.screenlock Nov 07 04:09:01 balrog-k1n, why would you build on the pre? Nov 07 04:11:00 zsoc: to save myself messing with cross toolchains and always having to have the desktop with me if i need to rebuild Nov 07 04:11:32 zsoc: once you make the initial build, small modifications are pretty quick to recompile Nov 07 04:12:43 balrog-k1n, i know i've done both. i just like saying "why in the world would you build on the pre" ;) Nov 07 04:13:07 true.. Nov 07 04:13:40 plus i crashed my pre twice building things until it froze from heat lol Nov 07 04:14:35 does the case get hot too when it's about to do that? Nov 07 04:14:47 i hoped the omap3 didn't get that hot Nov 07 04:15:12 * balrog-k1n tries to assess how far he is from overheating Nov 07 04:15:27 there's a thermometer somewhere on board btw Nov 07 04:15:49 set pre on gel ice pack Nov 07 04:16:21 i could install liquid nitrogen cooling on the phone! Nov 07 04:16:27 i bet nobody has done that yet Nov 07 04:19:28 Hi guys! Hope this question has not been asked too many times. Since Palm still has not mad developer phones available for purchase, I was thinking of getting one on eBay with a bad ESN to use sans phone sort of like what in iPod-Touch is to the iPhone. Is this doable or will it just stay in that "configure me" mode? Did RodW ever get a phone? Nov 07 04:21:10 bassrat, do know, if you buy a phone with a bad esn, you are supporting a customer who decided not to pay their bill Nov 07 04:21:59 I'll by a new one with good ESN if it can be used for development in an area not serviced by sprint. Nov 07 04:22:23 and I don't have to pay 2-yr contract. Nov 07 04:22:23 bassrat: mine works and i haven't activated it or anything, in fact i still haven't put a good SIM in it yet because i don't have any for the moment Nov 07 04:22:41 bassrat: but it's the german one, not simlocked, not sure if it makes a difference Nov 07 04:22:45 bassrat, yes, there is a utility written by rod which will skip the activation Nov 07 04:25:26 any one know anything about /etc/palmipcinterfaces.conf Nov 07 04:25:31 re Nov 07 04:25:40 k, thanks. What is the best "legitimate" way to get extra phones without getting new contracts. Nov 07 04:26:23 Would like a pixi or two for testing as well. ;-) Nov 07 04:28:27 bassrat: I have a good esn CDMA Pre now, which meta-doctor works well for, and I have an unlocked German GSM Pre currently in shipping to .au Nov 07 04:28:51 bassrat: do you want CDMA or GSM ? Nov 07 04:30:14 Thanks for the update, Rod. I've got two CDMA devices but can use either since apps don't need phone for testing. Nov 07 04:30:38 GSM would be nice but not necessary. Nov 07 04:30:42 bassrat: I got a good ESN devices for USD$300. Nov 07 04:30:49 CDMA that is Nov 07 04:31:04 via eBAY Nov 07 04:32:05 bpadalino bought it for me from craigslist I think - he went and picked it up personally for me (1 hour drive - bpadalino rules). I got another person here to check the ESN for me before purchase to make sure it was clean and good. Nov 07 04:34:34 Ok, so (1) buy unit with good ESN and (2) use your utility to bypass activation and it should be good to go for wifi, side-loading, etc. Anything but calls and Sprint services correct? Nov 07 05:04:42 NSFW ^^^ Nov 07 05:04:52 :p Nov 07 05:08:43 ... ? Nov 07 05:14:56 rwhitby: still about? Nov 07 05:21:02 freakout: yep Nov 07 05:21:14 bassrat: correct Nov 07 05:21:18 rwhitby: Where'd you spot that facebook.jar in 1.3? Nov 07 05:21:49 freakout: I'm afraid I can't tell you Nov 07 05:22:01 NDA? Nov 07 05:22:17 I haven't signed anything, but 1.3.1 is indeed under an NDA. Nov 07 05:23:02 * freakout nods Nov 07 05:41:51 argh... damned US hosting/shell service. Nov 07 05:52:37 no there is a free blocked game in the catalog Nov 07 05:53:38 ? Nov 07 05:54:03 s/no/now/ Nov 07 05:54:16 ~botsmack Nov 07 05:54:17 OWW! Nov 07 05:57:55 oil, awesome man :) Nov 07 06:13:13 its not by me Nov 07 06:18:48 oil: is it good? Nov 07 06:19:52 idk Nov 07 06:19:55 i didn't download it Nov 07 06:25:54 Wow Nov 07 06:26:04 I can't stop laughing at Perfect Bounce reviews Nov 07 06:27:45 2 star rating Nov 07 06:27:45 woo Nov 07 06:27:54 yet, the dl count kicks ass Nov 07 07:30:08 werd. Nov 07 07:36:50 hi Nov 07 07:37:19 anybody installed the new messaging plugin from gregroll? Nov 07 07:37:43 how do you add a new irc server? Nov 07 07:39:46 whoa, I just had the system time 10 minutes slow Nov 07 07:40:45 been running clipcarl's cpuspeed script for months (some people say they have had time weirdness with it) never had a problem like that. hmm Nov 07 07:40:53 I had service too Nov 07 07:41:25 even sent a text message and it showed the timestamp for the reply earlier than the message I received.. could it have been Sprint? Nov 07 07:41:57 Id say sprint Nov 07 07:42:02 are you on 1.2.1? Nov 07 07:42:11 with cpuspeed? Nov 07 07:42:40 do you have venoms instructions in your script? Nov 07 08:06:52 no just straight cpuspeed 1.2.1 Nov 07 08:17:19 what's cpuspeed? Nov 07 08:19:39 geist: some patches have been submitted at http://gitorious.org/webos-internals/modifications/trees/master/misc, some of which install some upstart scripts to modify cpufreq/* and smartreflex. Nov 07 08:19:59 I suspect that's what hmagoo is referring to, but I'm not sure. Nov 07 08:20:20 ah that Nov 07 08:21:47 geist: we haven't packaged them in Preware due to the unknown effect on the hardware. Nov 07 08:22:04 * geist gives rwhitby a high five Nov 07 08:23:09 lol Nov 07 09:13:48 yo Nov 07 09:26:52 hey Nov 07 09:33:03 12 Nov 07 09:33:08 erps Nov 07 12:19:52 hmm Nov 07 14:30:39 * balrog-k1n managed to get into some kind of Field Test program directly from bootie where you can test the hw Nov 07 14:31:50 z & y are inverted there, sym is called "menu", dot is "alt", orange square is "op" Nov 07 14:39:08 WOW, now it entered the crazy mode Nov 07 14:40:16 i pressed sym + orange + r in the field test program, it's emitting some random tone-dialling sounds, all leds are full on (incuding camera flash) and the screen is changing colours Nov 07 15:41:22 goodmorning all Nov 07 15:43:35 morning. Nov 07 15:44:11 how do i remove a theme it it doesn't show up in preware as installed? Nov 07 15:46:54 BoBoYsDaDDa: I only have use one theme which is the basic black theme... I may be wrong but I would assume each theme has an ID which I would use to uninstall thru prompt. Nov 07 15:48:29 that would require me to speak linux i'll have to get someone to tell me the script commands for that Nov 07 15:48:51 Well I speak Linux :) Nov 07 15:49:02 do u know the command? Nov 07 15:49:14 i'm running the monster theme Nov 07 15:49:40 before it updated which is what i believe caused the problem when it updated on preware Nov 07 15:51:19 BoBoYsDaDDa: Which one, there two with the title monster. Nov 07 15:52:07 it is com.prethemer.themes.05bfaa8b88 Nov 07 15:52:13 oops sorry Nov 07 15:52:30 com.prethemer.themes.950e540eec Nov 07 15:52:37 BoBoYsDaDDa: What I would do is install the same theme and see if it shows as installed and then remove it. Nov 07 15:52:50 it won't install Nov 07 15:54:09 alright i' Nov 07 15:54:14 dangit Nov 07 15:54:28 alright i'll be back later. wife and kids are whining about breakfast Nov 07 15:54:31 thanx for trying Nov 07 15:54:55 BoBoYsDaDDa: I will PM you the command. I was in the middle of something. Nov 07 15:55:25 ok thankyou Nov 07 16:17:13 ok, i killed linux, is there some easy way to access the filesystem from the bootloader but without wiping out all of the fs? Nov 07 16:18:04 balrog-k1n: killed the penguin, ouch! Nov 07 16:18:24 yup, i feel bad now Nov 07 16:18:32 but it had to happen Nov 07 17:01:17 Where does one find palmpre.zip mentioned in OpenVPN_for_Palm_Pre wiki page? Nov 07 17:05:45 Nevermind, I assume that's custom stuff created for each vpn onnection. Nov 07 17:20:38 hello Nov 07 17:47:09 So quiet... :p Nov 07 18:49:40 Abyssul_wIRC: ssssh Nov 07 19:17:00 can someone help me my theme is not available to remove but when i try to install a theme over it, the ipkg log says i need to remove the previous theme Nov 07 19:20:39 hello eeveyone Nov 07 19:21:21 i have a ? was wondering if anyone could help ,e Nov 07 19:21:22 me* Nov 07 19:22:23 what is it Nov 07 19:23:20 i have been reading mitch allens palm web os book and on page 44 he says create feed.js Nov 07 19:24:14 feeds.js* in the models dir. i dont have a models dir so do i just create the directory and then create feeds.js as a text file or am i doing it the wrong way. cause now i dont get an app that works anymore Nov 07 19:27:31 before i did that and the next thing it worked fine Nov 07 19:46:00 anyone here? :( Nov 07 19:47:28 I AM! Nov 07 19:47:30 :D Nov 07 19:47:42 i saw you're basketball game kesne :P Nov 07 19:48:11 hehe Nov 07 19:48:16 the 1.5 star one? Nov 07 19:48:29 That made me $500 in a day? Nov 07 19:48:33 That one? Nov 07 19:52:48 :P Nov 07 19:52:53 sooo lucky :P Nov 07 19:53:08 Hehe Nov 07 19:53:13 I have an update ready Nov 07 19:53:14 imma crack it! Nov 07 19:53:16 j.k :P Nov 07 19:53:20 That'll fix those issues Nov 07 19:53:24 Psh Nov 07 19:53:36 Im afraid that checkers 1.1.0 will get cracked Nov 07 19:53:51 It has the ENTIRE pro 1.1 framework in it Nov 07 19:54:07 Just have to do a lot of uncommenting Nov 07 19:54:10 and other fun stuff Nov 07 19:54:20 when are you gonna push a checkers pro update? Nov 07 19:54:55 Eventually Nov 07 19:55:02 probibly not before the pixi Nov 07 20:03:05 kesne Nov 07 20:03:13 yes? Nov 07 20:22:56 smothwall or ipcop ? ? Nov 07 20:28:26 Hmmm I wonder if palm's stock is evening up Nov 07 20:35:43 Sigh. Flashing back to webOS 1.1.3. Couldn't make the App Catalog work in 1.2.1. dammit Nov 07 20:36:00 Meh, App Catalog is useless to me Nov 07 20:36:28 the 1.1.3 version is pretty damn useless to *me*, too, but I need access to do app reviews Nov 07 20:36:34 I haven't bought a single app and most of the ones I've downloaded, I never use. I just downloaded for hecks sake Nov 07 20:36:39 (even though it doesn't even have half the apps in it) Nov 07 20:54:45 freakout: did ya need me for something? Nov 07 20:58:12 * Marajin slaps freakout with an electric eel. Nov 07 21:01:40 Marajin: wanted to ask you aboot your app cat since you'd updated to 1.2 (didn't you?) Nov 07 21:01:44 But I worked out the issue. Nov 07 21:09:05 any of you GTalk people know how to register a non gmail email to use gtalk? Nov 07 21:09:39 i dont think you can? Nov 07 21:19:22 Yep, you can.; Nov 07 21:19:25 I did it finally. Nov 07 21:20:01 Where did your Astra users get 4.2? Nov 07 21:20:17 * oil has non-gmail gtalk, and non-microsoft msn Nov 07 21:21:43 * freakout-EEE thinks oil 's head must be spinning at the amount of chat clients he has open Nov 07 21:21:46 * dBsooner does too Nov 07 21:22:38 So I'm back on webOS 1.1.3 now. Geez it's a heap of crap Nov 07 21:22:54 freakout, you have an Eee? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Nov 07 21:23:15 2009 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Nov 07 21:23:45 2009 Nov 07 21:24:30 dBsooner, yep. Nov 07 21:24:51 freakout-EEE: you like it? I won one from my employer for being safe for the quarter Nov 07 21:24:54 dBsooner: On it right now coz my Pre just crashed my PC's USB hub, including the wireless adaper. again Nov 07 21:24:56 She has been using it for a week. Nov 07 21:25:19 It's an original Eee, dBsooner - so tiny tiny screen, 4GB SSD, etc Nov 07 21:25:32 But it's been such a useful little workhorse. No complaints Nov 07 21:25:36 although i Nov 07 21:25:46 'm gonna replace with an Acer aspire, i think Nov 07 21:25:52 * freakout-EEE <3's netbooks Nov 07 21:25:54 trillian does them all Nov 07 21:29:33 freakout-EEE: I have heard bad things about Acer Aspire One's Nov 07 21:29:58 oil: I know it does. I was a beta tester of Astra for a long time.. Then I finally bought the license.. How do I get 4.2? Nov 07 21:30:14 i use 3.5 Nov 07 21:30:19 astra is ugly Nov 07 21:30:20 old school. word. Nov 07 21:30:37 I like having facebook chat and myspace im Nov 07 21:30:41 which Astra does Nov 07 21:30:52 i use neither of those websites, so im not missing anything Nov 07 21:30:59 oil lies Nov 07 21:31:02 morning Nov 07 21:31:05 oil loves facebook Nov 07 21:31:07 i wish he Nov 07 21:31:09 d stop poking me Nov 07 21:31:14 annoying Nov 07 21:31:19 that sounds pretty gay Nov 07 21:31:20 morning rwhitby Nov 07 21:31:44 mornin rwhitby Nov 07 21:32:18 oil: to get my non-gmail email to work with trillian, I had to add a gmail email to my non-gmail email services. Nov 07 21:33:46 eew.. trillian Nov 07 21:35:18 freakout-EEE: yeah sorry, I did go to 1.2, and the app catalogue is now useless ;) Nov 07 21:35:33 freakout-EEE: as opposed to .. mostly useless under 1.1.3 ;) Nov 07 21:54:30 Marajin, there's a thread on Precentral about re-enabling it, but it didn't work for me Nov 07 21:54:38 so back to 1.1.3 i went... for now. Nov 07 21:54:47 I'll docotor again when 1.3 comes out Nov 07 21:55:20 unless I find someone to create a US profile for me xD Nov 07 22:04:52 freakout-EEE: heh :) Nov 07 22:04:59 freakout-EEE: I don't much care :p Nov 07 22:05:16 freakout-EEE: the 1.2.1 store does work but has like ... 20 items in it from memory Nov 07 22:06:35 * dBsooner is back to WIndows 7. Nov 07 22:06:36 :D Nov 07 22:06:46 dBsooner: huzzah for windows 7 :) Nov 07 22:07:40 freakout-EEE: also, bah to eees, I have a vye-pc UMPC :p yay for switchable tablet/laptop form factor Nov 07 22:20:44 freakout-EEE: have you run ShowProps on your Pre? Nov 07 22:25:48 mornin Nov 07 22:44:30 I still can't figure out why anyone uses windows. Nov 07 22:46:51 Usually through need -- or, that's why I do. Nov 07 22:47:29 brb Nov 07 22:53:41 zsoc|busy: because everyone else does I suppose? because if you want to play mainstream games without lots of inane fiddling? Nov 07 22:59:13 because if you don't and you go to Aunt Minnie's house you'll have to google for 30 minutes just to figure out to rid that diseased excuse of an OS from persistent pop-up anti-virus offers Nov 07 22:59:45 hmagoo: pebkac ;) Nov 07 23:00:52 no, not really.. you don't spawn an entire anti-virus money-making industry when you release 3 major OS versions over a few decads Nov 07 23:00:55 decades Nov 07 23:02:05 that is the most freedom I ever saw MS empower to users, the freedom to have websites and software overtake your computer. Nov 07 23:02:13 it's pebkac... the OS gets targeted due to popularity, and they succeed because the average user isn't capable of making imformed decisions Nov 07 23:02:21 *informed Nov 07 23:02:48 well, the end users are not the developers, it is supposed to be an OS. not just hardware access Nov 07 23:03:08 and you're going to extoll the virtues of what OS instead? Nov 07 23:03:43 operating systems are just tools, a means to an end, not an end in themselves. use the right one at the right time for the task at hand. Nov 07 23:03:58 rwhitby: Thank you for saying the correct thing :) Nov 07 23:05:06 * rwhitby regularly runs 5 different operating systems at the same time on this laptop. Nov 07 23:05:46 which is eminently sensible given your technical ability and requirements yep :) Nov 07 23:06:01 Man I touch 5 or more in a day too. Nov 07 23:06:35 * Marajin sighs and wonders why we bother with the old OS wars anymore Nov 07 23:08:24 huh, I guess my Xperia will never rise again :( Nov 07 23:37:21 because windows is the evil! Nov 07 23:43:00 I think we need to work out how to do Preware Profiles, which automatically reload your apps after a webos doctor ... Nov 07 23:43:37 so between your Palm Profile and your Preware Profile, all your apps, patches, etc are all reinstalled automatically. Nov 07 23:43:49 rwhitby Nov 07 23:43:51 I agree Nov 07 23:44:03 IF the patch is compat with new version Nov 07 23:44:51 well, since the new feed will be in place, that will happen automatically Nov 07 23:45:06 that's the whole point of separate feeds with the same package name Nov 07 23:48:01 does the pre use purple for messaging? Nov 07 23:49:13 elpollodiablo1 no Nov 07 23:49:19 elpollodiablo1 I don't think. Nov 07 23:49:27 really Nov 07 23:49:36 I thought it did Nov 07 23:49:38 sure it does Nov 07 23:49:42 lol Nov 07 23:49:53 what is this trolling? :> Nov 07 23:50:40 so what does it use for its IM lib? Nov 07 23:51:02 the information for what it uses for messaging is all over the place Nov 07 23:51:31 im sure you'll be able to find it Nov 07 23:52:48 oh god, we've turned into one of _those_ communities. Nov 07 23:53:05 what communities? Nov 07 23:54:19 "rtfm" Nov 07 23:54:47 just to let you know incase you dont know it does use the puple Nov 07 23:54:50 mmm sounds exciting Nov 07 23:54:55 elpollodiablo1: http://opensource.palm.com/1.2.1/index.html - it's listed there Nov 07 23:55:08 i didn't realize it was our job to look things up for people Nov 07 23:55:11 I was already there Nov 07 23:55:47 and I did see the purple packages Nov 07 23:56:10 hrm, so the source of the question is ? Nov 07 23:57:05 i don't mind helping people Nov 07 23:57:09 but im not a search engine Nov 07 23:57:32 oil, very understandable ... Nov 07 23:59:02 so much for this being a group to learn and promote people to work with you to improve the pre Nov 07 23:59:25 :/ Nov 07 23:59:32 elpollodiablo1: what else would you like to know ? Nov 08 00:01:03 elpollodiablo1, he's just having a bad day :D we love oil Nov 08 00:01:08 * zsoc licks oil Nov 08 00:01:17 im not having a bad day Nov 08 00:01:24 GO WITH IT Nov 08 00:01:53 has he been trolling the last couple of days ? Nov 08 00:02:12 hmm. Nov 08 00:02:14 i dont understand how telling him he could find the information was a bad thing Nov 08 00:02:33 oil: agreed. Nov 08 00:02:49 By the way (my friend just had this issue), if someone comes in with Ubuntu 9.10 (koala) and has an issue getting novacom to work, have them install this package: http://www.codemonkies.net/linux/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/palm-novacom_0.3-svn177284-hud9_debian_i3861.deb Nov 08 00:03:16 the other packages for some reason fail on dpkg, and ubuntu removed them from the repo's anyway Nov 08 00:04:10 rwhitby, i like your Preware Profile idea. Does webos-internals have the server space for a database of that size? Nov 08 00:14:12 palms docs always make me laugh Nov 08 00:14:17 "The dialog assistant is like a scene assistants, and has: setup, activate, deactivate, and cleanup methods MORE HERE. For example:" Nov 08 00:14:22 more there, huh? Nov 08 00:15:20 hmm.. I need a good quick launch bar for win 7 Nov 08 00:16:39 oh wait.. I better google that.. Nov 08 00:16:42 before oil gets me Nov 08 00:16:48 :/ Nov 08 00:16:57 speaking of the docs... a lot of methods are not documented :( Nov 08 00:17:04 yeah Nov 08 00:17:21 practically none of the real interesting serviceRequests's Nov 08 00:17:35 I'm hunting right now :/ Nov 08 00:21:14 "palm pre libpurple messaging" is a good google search term ;-) Nov 08 00:21:38 * oil is sorry for saying what everyone was thinking Nov 08 00:22:41 So does webos use gstream ? Nov 08 00:23:07 "palm pre gstreamer" is a good google search term .... Nov 08 00:23:20 :/ Nov 08 00:23:30 hahahahahaa Nov 08 00:24:05 tarelerulz: zsoc is the gst guru here Nov 08 00:24:20 I read it does ,but to what level . gstream is used alot and thing like totme cna play all sorts of media , ogg , flac , mkv ect Nov 08 00:24:34 lets not forget the search on the wiki is garbage Nov 08 00:25:19 try a search for irc or wirc on it Nov 08 00:25:22 0 results Nov 08 00:25:38 i know for a fact it exists Nov 08 00:26:01 any of you ever try ogg on webos ? Nov 08 00:26:30 oil: for some reason the search bar only searches the Main namespace, not Applications. Gurus on how to fix that are welcome to give input ... Nov 08 00:26:52 * oil knows nothing about wikis Nov 08 00:27:04 oil: alternative, I can replace it by a google adsense search bar ... Nov 08 00:27:17 lol Nov 08 00:27:39 * rwhitby considers that seriously, since it will give better search results Nov 08 00:29:45 then when someone complains about the wiki search I can just blame Google ... Nov 08 00:29:51 lol Nov 08 00:30:18 rwhitby: that's still on my TODO list to fix... Nov 08 00:31:27 * rwhitby wonders why a kvm install of ubuntu 9.10 takes 12 hours so far ... Nov 08 00:32:30 * lingfish just found: $wgNamespacesToBeSearchedDefault - Which namespaces should be searched? Nov 08 00:57:36 lingfish: yep, that's it. done. oil please test. Nov 08 00:57:54 Awesome :) Nov 08 00:58:39 test what? Nov 08 01:00:07 wiki search Nov 08 01:01:10 a search for irc still returns nothing Nov 08 01:02:18 oil that's really weird Nov 08 01:02:22 search for wirc works Nov 08 01:02:26 search for irc doesn't and Nov 08 01:02:39 it says it's searching application namespace and searching the article TEXT Nov 08 01:02:40 i dont get anything for wirc Nov 08 01:02:42 how "odd" Nov 08 01:02:51 also Nov 08 01:02:57 why is there a go and a search button? Nov 08 01:02:58 lol Nov 08 01:03:04 hrm Nov 08 01:03:12 oil clear your cache Nov 08 01:04:00 go jumps you directly to an artcle if one exists that matches your search Nov 08 01:04:06 search ALWAYS takes you to a search page Nov 08 01:04:45 ah Nov 08 01:05:04 PEBKAC? Nov 08 01:05:31 maybe we need the google adsense search box for oil - just one button on that one ;-) Nov 08 01:05:35 lol Nov 08 01:05:37 Seach does not search for strings shorter than 4 characters Nov 08 01:05:54 chat works Nov 08 01:05:56 cha does not Nov 08 01:05:57 etc Nov 08 01:06:01 the piece between my keyboard and chair is just fine Nov 08 01:06:05 which, by the way, doesn't work Nov 08 01:08:09 You can change the mysql settings to allow searches for 3 letter words (or shorter): http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Short_words_in_searches Nov 08 01:08:17 quote: Nov 08 01:08:18 By default MediaWiki uses MySQL and the default FULLTEXT indexing uses built-in stop words and a minimum word length of four. Nov 08 01:08:30 rwhitby: just installed showprops Nov 08 01:11:46 Well, glad that's fixed. Nov 08 01:11:53 freakout: what's it say for DMCARRIER? Nov 08 01:12:01 and DMMODEL Nov 08 01:12:05 and DMSETS Nov 08 01:12:42 and HWOREV, KEYOBRD, PN, PRODID ? Nov 08 01:12:49 lol Nov 08 01:12:53 typing typing typing... Nov 08 01:13:22 DMCARRIER = ROW DMMODEL = P100UEU DMSETS = {"sets":"312","317"} Nov 08 01:13:28 he means tzping, tzping Nov 08 01:14:01 lingfish: are you making that change to mysql ini then? Nov 08 01:14:22 rboatright: not my call, and don't have access. Up to rwhitby Nov 08 01:14:31 HOWREV = A KEY0BRD = y PN = 180-10695-03 PRODID = P100UEU Nov 08 01:14:36 well, I do, and by golly I am. Nov 08 01:14:39 3 characters it is. Nov 08 01:14:50 The burdon doesn't seem THAT horrific. :-) Nov 08 01:15:00 ((unless rod overrides me )) Nov 08 01:16:32 rboatright: go for it Nov 08 01:17:55 freakout: Sprint, P100EWW, {"sets":"base","a"}, A, z, 180-10642-07, P100EWW here Nov 08 01:17:56 rwhitby: anything unexpected? Nov 08 01:18:15 freakouts pre is EWW Nov 08 01:18:17 yuckey Nov 08 01:18:21 lol Nov 08 01:18:30 actually that's rods Nov 08 01:18:38 oil: actually, yours and mine are EWW - his is EUE Nov 08 01:18:38 mine is UEU oil Nov 08 01:18:43 UEU even Nov 08 01:19:03 I like to think it stands for Ultimately Excellent Uber Nov 08 01:19:30 ( except it runs webOS 1.1.3. bah. i really hope 1.3 gets pushed globally ) Nov 08 01:19:31 or Unabashedly Exhibitionist Underpants Nov 08 01:19:36 LMAO Nov 08 01:20:22 funny Nov 08 01:20:25 freakout: does the 312,317 line up with the carrier database at all? Nov 08 01:20:41 your keyboard says "z" and mine says "y", even though you have qwerty and i have qwertz... Nov 08 01:20:43 * rwhitby wonders what DMSETS affects ... Nov 08 01:20:50 rwhitby: excellent question. i'm going to check Nov 08 01:20:55 freakout: it's the letter that's on the z key Nov 08 01:21:07 ohhhhh Nov 08 01:21:27 well, the letter on the key to the right of the orange key Nov 08 01:21:44