**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 13 02:59:57 2010 Mar 13 03:00:54 darronb: let me know when the library is up, and we'll start on it. Mar 13 03:05:09 darronb: did you make a decision on leaving the libraries in /media/cryptofs, or bind mounting /var symlinks into /usr/local/lib ? Mar 13 03:05:46 rwhitby: I think leave them in cryptofs... requiring no postinst/prerm scripts seems better... ? Mar 13 03:06:07 darronb: certainly less to go wrong Mar 13 03:06:28 ~~~~ Mar 13 03:06:29 ARGH!!! STOP IT jacques!!! Mar 13 03:07:28 rwhitby: okay... comparing to a few others, the closest is actually to put the prebuilt libs in a subdir 'binaries' ? .. there are subfolders too... all go there? Mar 13 03:08:17 darronb: yep Mar 13 03:08:52 architecture specific subdirs, and we copy the right binaries into separate packages on the autobuilder for armv7, armv6 and i686 Mar 13 03:09:24 darronb: (we usually just symlink the armv6 and armv7 binaries after building them for armv5) Mar 13 03:16:07 rwhitby: uploading now... should I see the projects on http://git.webos-internals.org/ ? Mar 13 03:19:23 darronb: yep Mar 13 03:20:08 darronb: but I'm not seeing them either Mar 13 03:20:41 rwhitby: okay, lib is checked in so far Mar 13 03:24:14 rwhitby: should my start.sh scripts be moved to upstart/net.griffin.qt* ? Mar 13 03:24:55 rwhitby: or put in binaries ? ... they need to be marked executable Mar 13 03:25:26 rwhitby: strangely, i can search for 'qt' and find them Mar 13 03:28:36 good night :) Mar 13 03:29:09 darronb: I see them now on http://git.webos-internals.org/?o=age Mar 13 03:39:13 darronb: something strange is going on with the web interface, for whatever reason. something about the cache they put toegether to reduce load, etc Mar 13 03:40:20 bbl Mar 13 03:41:26 dtzWill: yeah, they'll probably show up later. Mar 13 03:43:04 rwhitby: should I put in my start.sh scripts in the main repo folders or the binaries or.. ? Mar 13 03:43:48 darronb: good question Mar 13 03:45:10 palm should offer phones for less as part of their dev program. 20% isnt that much. Mar 13 03:47:18 20% indeed is not much, but it's open to _all_ devs if I follow properly Mar 13 03:47:28 or at least make it not carrier locked Mar 13 03:47:59 you could probably negotiate something much closer to manufacturer cost if you have a good relationship with their devrel Mar 13 03:50:26 darronb: put it in main repo folder I think Mar 13 03:50:36 along with appinfo.json, etc Mar 13 03:50:43 rwhitby: ok Mar 13 04:01:58 rwhitby: got the demos in now Mar 13 04:18:36 darronb: can you please add an armv7 -> armv6 symlink in the qt repo? Mar 13 04:20:08 oil: first use of custom feeds: http://forums.precentral.net/2303419-post570.html Mar 13 04:20:37 lol @ telling them to use compressed Mar 13 04:20:45 that toggle doesn't work Mar 13 04:20:45 rwhitby: er.. what feed is that? Mar 13 04:20:47 it always sends yes Mar 13 04:20:59 darronb: I'm working on the qt Makefile now Mar 13 04:21:35 "mode switcher"? wha Mar 13 04:22:07 oh, profile settings, interesting Mar 13 04:22:30 Hm, GPS based.... ie: auto silent while in certain locations. I like it Mar 13 04:23:09 late Mar 13 04:23:10 r Mar 13 04:23:20 that guy is doing everything "right" and I've never seen or heard from him ever Mar 13 04:23:44 trying to figure how to put together a debian source package always makes my head hurt Mar 13 04:24:03 egaudet: I got in contact with him after the 1.4 release, but yeah, he did everything right before that without any personalised assistance. Just shows how awesome our existing documentation is, Mar 13 04:24:31 :D Mar 13 04:24:45 egaudet: and after he returns from a holiday in mexico, we're migrating it to the autobuilder Mar 13 04:24:51 nice Mar 13 04:25:19 rwhitby: oops, sorry. done Mar 13 04:25:38 I really need to write a parser for palm-log -l Mar 13 04:25:38 darronb: I added a v4.6.2 tag to the qt repo too Mar 13 04:25:43 grrr Mar 13 04:25:44 What needs to happen for greg's messaging stuff to make it into autobuilder? bspatch in aupt? Mar 13 04:25:55 egaudet: yeah, I think so Mar 13 04:29:15 darronb: do you expect net.griffin.qt to have an icon in the launcher? Mar 13 04:29:47 or just the other apps (which will depend on that package being installed) Mar 13 04:29:59 rwhitby: right now it does, but it doesn't need one. it's broken on 1.4 anyway... it should probably be hidden Mar 13 04:30:24 egaudet: so mode switcher and 800MHz kernel and user agent patch all need bspatch in aupt now :-) Mar 13 04:30:37 darronb: let's leave it in for testing Mar 13 04:30:55 I better up the pace on it :P Mar 13 04:31:26 rwhitby: okay... know any simple way to keep webOS 1.4 from just blinking forever on the splash page? I think it's waiting for something else to happen, but the index.html file is simply text and img links. Mar 13 04:31:45 darronb: dunno Mar 13 04:32:07 darronb: I personally know little about the webOS mojo side of things. Mar 13 04:32:20 darronb: what does palm-log say Mar 13 04:32:22 Just enough to modify stuff that oil does. Mar 13 04:32:37 so... what's a decent irc client these days, then? linux... actually both GUI and console versions Mar 13 04:32:50 wirc Mar 13 04:32:53 halfhalo_T400: not sure... I don't have a pre in the short term Mar 13 04:33:00 xD Mar 13 04:33:05 rwhitby: I like how you 'fixed' getlistfile errors :D Mar 13 04:33:05 it will run on the emu Mar 13 04:33:09 darronb: so, can you change appinfo.json to say "type":"game" and "main":"qtrun" ? Mar 13 04:33:11 zsoc_wirc: heh Mar 13 04:34:13 rwhitby: oh, sorry... qtrun isn't the script for that. perhaps I should remove it. it used to be a script to run Qt apps from the shell Mar 13 04:34:17 darronb: please git clone git@git.webosinternals.org:preware/build.git Mar 13 04:34:41 darronb: oh, so qt.git has nothing to run, it's just for installing the common libs? Mar 13 04:35:22 rwhitby: yes, on 1.3.x it would simply display the index.html file, which shows a little info about it and links. Mar 13 04:35:44 darronb: oil can whip up a little mojo app for that :-) Mar 13 04:36:00 there's like PalmSystem.stageReady() or something to end the splash screen Mar 13 04:36:11 I have a ?for the linnux gurus here Mar 13 04:36:15 i have to pkill LunaSysMgr twice before it works Mar 13 04:36:18 1.4 Mar 13 04:36:25 no paqtches Mar 13 04:36:29 stop LunaSysMgr; start LunaSysMgr Mar 13 04:36:30 fresh dr. Mar 13 04:36:49 illtry that Mar 13 04:36:57 ill try Mar 13 04:37:11 rwhitby: cloned Mar 13 04:37:27 ok, from a pc, what is the best way to get a list of installed programs from the pre in a format that is easily parsed Mar 13 04:38:16 darronb: git pull, and look in unreleased/qt/Makefile - please fill in the fields at the top, looking at other Makefiles in apps/* for guidance Mar 13 04:38:47 halfhalo_T400: ipkg -o /media/cryptofs/apps list_installed ? Mar 13 04:38:48 rwhitby, LunaSysMgr event.d "stop on started start_update" Mar 13 04:39:08 egaudet: that works, thanks Mar 13 04:39:22 rwhitby, possible answer to when/how to take away rootfs overlay Mar 13 04:39:27 any idea why pkill has to be done twice Mar 13 04:39:39 darronb: then please add sibling Makefiles in sibling directories in unreleased for the other apps, and git commit and push when ready Mar 13 04:39:43 sslow, not sure. I usually stick with the upstart stuff though since it's there Mar 13 04:39:51 sslow, but I did verify that behavior Mar 13 04:39:59 sslow: it just started in 1.4, I'm unsure, haven't looked into it much Mar 13 04:40:05 egaudet: good find Mar 13 04:40:24 egaudet: so its not just mine... thats good' Mar 13 04:40:25 darronb: I'll be out for a little while - the other guys here can answer any questions about the packaging Makefiles as you go. Mar 13 04:40:36 darronb: once we have them all in place, we push to the testing feed. Mar 13 04:40:43 zsoc_wirc: Hmmm. I think that will work Mar 13 04:40:57 rwhitby: ok Mar 13 04:41:24 darronb: when once they move from unreleased to apps, all you need to do in the future is put a new tag on the source repo, update the Makefile VERSION, and git push. The autobuilder will then do the rest every 15 mins. Mar 13 04:42:00 darronb: you can also go into unreleased/qt and type "make package" to get your own package for private testing Mar 13 04:42:42 so private testing before git pushing the unreleased Makefile, then we push to the testing feed for wider alpha testing, then we move to apps/* for public release. Mar 13 04:43:47 * rwhitby bbl Mar 13 04:43:52 (maybe 1h) Mar 13 04:44:07 rwhitby: okay... how about icon / screenshots? do I need special access to stick them on the wiki? Mar 13 04:44:17 darronb: nope, just upload files Mar 13 04:44:33 rwhitby: okay, I'll work on it Mar 13 04:44:34 darronb: no special access Mar 13 04:44:36 darronb: feel free to create Application:Qt page Mar 13 04:44:55 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:Qt Mar 13 04:45:28 darronb: Templarian often does icons if you need one :-) Mar 13 04:45:33 * rwhitby bbl Mar 13 04:47:04 I don't kill people. Mar 13 04:47:12 But I do Mar 13 04:47:12 oh icon... yea I do those. Mar 13 04:48:11 Project must be open source or free to qualify. :) PM me working on this addon with tons of devs silently waiting. :( Mar 13 04:49:22 templarian: so far, Nokia said it's okay to use their icon... but thanks Mar 13 04:49:45 :) Mar 13 04:52:50 !!! Mar 13 04:53:02 almost done with this parser for palm-log -l Mar 13 04:54:56 silently? Mar 13 04:55:05 i thought they were all vocal templarian Mar 13 04:55:56 halfhalo_T400: those are simple to write. lol. :) Mar 13 04:56:26 oil: very true, but I can't actually hear emails or forums or PM or IM's. Mar 13 04:56:31 lol Mar 13 04:56:35 yeah, well, in java Mar 13 04:56:38 it sucks Mar 13 04:56:42 because java sucks Mar 13 04:56:52 I wrote mine in JS. :) <3 XUL. Mar 13 04:57:00 (even if it makes one slowly go insane) Mar 13 04:58:38 lol Mar 13 04:58:48 its easy to do in js, but for this I need java Mar 13 04:59:41 I just regex'ed out everything I needed I'm sure the same is for java. Mar 13 05:18:44 The Qt libs should be all "Type: Linux Application" and "Category: Infrastructure" (for lib) and ... what, "Category: Demos" for the apps? Mar 13 05:19:45 why "Linux Application" over "Application" for type? Mar 13 05:22:02 Linux Application if it's a linux tool with no GUI frontend I believe, like some of the packages in there are nothing more than running the postinst script to do it's thing Mar 13 05:22:43 or like GNU patch and lsdiff Mar 13 05:30:33 okay, i pushed to build.git, but i don't see it on the webgit interface... a search shows the commit though Mar 13 05:31:12 also, trying 'make package' starts to clone the build.git repo wherever I run it from... not quite what i expected Mar 13 05:36:49 darronb, it should be cloning the source repo Mar 13 05:36:51 developer phones! Mar 13 05:38:22 I don't know what's up with gitweb cache or something Mar 13 05:38:34 well, if that's what it's supposed to do, then it's crapping out with an error: Mar 13 05:38:41 error: pathspec 'v4.6.2' did not match any file(s) known to git. Mar 13 05:38:47 it is trying to checkout that tag Mar 13 05:38:53 did you tag the source repo and push the tag? Mar 13 05:39:24 hmm, no... ? :) how do I do that? Mar 13 05:40:30 Is anyone having phone lock issues? I have my Pre equipped with simple pin, and several times today, when I try to unlock it, I can't cause the yellow that you have to drag up is missing. :/ Mar 13 05:40:55 yellow orb* Mar 13 06:07:36 darronb, have you tagged it and just not pushed or not tagged it at all? Mar 13 06:07:46 for example you would do the following: Mar 13 06:08:03 git tag v4.6.2 Mar 13 06:08:11 git push origin tag v4.6.2 Mar 13 06:08:22 that will tag your local repo and the 2nd command will push that tag Mar 13 06:08:22 egaudet: i tried that, but ... well, not the push line Mar 13 06:08:38 you can also do git push --tags to push ALL your tags, but PuffTheMagic might come yelling not to do that :P Mar 13 06:20:16 darronb: how's it progessing? Mar 13 06:20:41 * rwhitby uses "git push --tags" with impunity Mar 13 06:21:18 rwhitby: well, 'make package' isn't quite working yet... trying to get through it Mar 13 06:21:24 Rick_work: developer phones that are only available in the US/Canada, are not unlocked, and do not have an international warranty. Mar 13 06:21:47 darronb: feel free to push what you have in unreleased and I can take a look at it now Mar 13 06:23:01 rwhitby: it's relatively up to date now.. working on qtcanvas at the moment since it's smaller. the binaries/armv7/qt in the qt package needs to go in to net.griffin.qt/ as a folder, not just the contents too Mar 13 06:23:11 darronb: anything with a Mojo GUI should be type Application Mar 13 06:23:19 anything without a GUI, we make something else Mar 13 06:23:42 rwhitby: what should the demos be? Mar 13 06:23:53 hi Mar 13 06:24:12 type Application, category Demos I guess Mar 13 06:24:17 hey MetaView Mar 13 06:24:43 rwhitby: okay, I'll change them Mar 13 06:24:49 darronb: the "cp -r build/binaries/$*/qt build/$*/usr/palm/applications/${APP_ID}/" should put the qt dir as a dir in the app dir Mar 13 06:26:02 darronb: if you need to update a tag, go: git tag -f -a -m "Changelog Message" v4.6.2 Mar 13 06:26:11 then git push origin :v4.6.2 Mar 13 06:26:14 then git push --tags Mar 13 06:26:49 but never update a tag after the autobuilder has seen it, cause it won't download the same tag source twice Mar 13 06:27:05 for local testing, just remove downloads/qt-4.6.2.tar.gz to make it re-download Mar 13 06:27:18 ah, that's right.. that's why i wasn't getting the link Mar 13 06:30:32 darronb: do you expect Qt will work on a Pixi too? Mar 13 06:31:18 there's no sdl for pixi, right? or is there sdl but no opengl-eszn Mar 13 06:31:19 es Mar 13 06:31:29 rwhiyby: hmm.. i thought so, but i read something someplace saying pixi didn't have SDL ? a bit confusing Mar 13 06:32:02 ok, we'll just release for Pre then Mar 13 06:32:11 darronb: I'm ready to push the qt package to testing feed ... Mar 13 06:33:12 rwhitby: does it work? did you try to build it? Mar 13 06:33:18 builds here Mar 13 06:34:57 darronb: any chance an i686 build would work on the emulator? Mar 13 06:35:12 rwhitby: does the emulator do SDL? Mar 13 06:35:43 rwhitby: well, i'd need to build libs Mar 13 06:36:11 darronb: the emulator has SDL libraries at least Mar 13 06:36:40 rwhitby: everytime i overclock it makes me pre unbootable. others can do it, why doesn't it work for me? Mar 13 06:36:42 it has to be glibc 2.5 - we have the toolchain in the preware/build.git build Mar 13 06:37:34 Decimate: semiconductor process variation and speed binning is the likely reason Mar 13 06:38:00 rwhitby: let me borrow your brain till im out of high school please. Mar 13 06:38:11 rwhitby: what was that about autobuilder and tags? they don't build for me Mar 13 06:38:33 the emulator does sdl Mar 13 06:38:39 they test the chips at manufacturing to see how fast they'll run reliably, and then sell them as that speed device.. so if you have a slower rated one, it's because it was tested and found to not work reliably any faster Mar 13 06:38:52 if it does work at a higher speed, it's just luck, in general Mar 13 06:39:08 and that luck may not persist forever Mar 13 06:39:36 you need to symlink fb1 to fb0 and it has some flicker but doom plays in emu Mar 13 06:40:04 epv: well, it usually depends on inventory. if they have a mature process, it's more likely that most (but not all) will actually run at a higher speed, but you'll still get outliers Mar 13 06:40:06 (flicker because luna will then fight sdl over framebuffer) Mar 13 06:40:32 destinal-wirc: is that on 1.4 emulator? Mar 13 06:40:56 rwhitby: I changed a few makefiles, try building one of the demos Mar 13 06:41:02 darronb: you should be able to remove downloads/qt-4.6.2.tar.gz, then go into unreleased/qt and type "make clobber ; make package" Mar 13 06:41:02 135 for sure Mar 13 06:41:14 probably 140 too Mar 13 06:41:28 rwhitby: i still think it's a mistake to *expect* to be able to overclock Mar 13 06:42:23 epv: agreed Mar 13 06:42:42 darronb: will need "type":"game" in the appinfo.json Mar 13 06:42:51 rwhitby: family time was needed but I'll try to test new svc in the morning Mar 13 06:43:07 darronb: and start.sh might need to be 755 Mar 13 06:43:26 rwhitby: okay, for demos only, right? the lib itself is just the index.html Mar 13 06:43:33 darronb: yep Mar 13 06:43:40 rwhitby: yes, binaries automatically get 755? Mar 13 06:43:51 instead of cp -r, using install -m 755 ... Mar 13 06:48:18 ok, testing on device now Mar 13 06:49:06 rwhitby: where is openssh stored on the feeds? Mar 13 06:49:44 Decimate: optware Mar 13 06:50:33 darronb: qt installs ok Mar 13 06:51:03 rwhitby: okay, working on makefiles then i fix the "game" line Mar 13 06:53:20 darronb: cd line in start.sh needs fixing for each package Mar 13 06:56:34 rwhitby: each one? I see a problem in qtcanvas, is there more than the end bit being "qtdemo" instead of "qtcanvas" ? Mar 13 06:56:45 that's the one I tested Mar 13 06:57:18 so what exactly is happening with jason? is there a thread somewhere on precentral with info as to what exactly happened or is happening because i can't find one. Mar 13 06:57:19 ok, I can start qtcanvas from the command line, but not from the icon Mar 13 06:58:15 rwhitby: with just "./start.sh" in the command line? Mar 13 06:58:19 darronb: yep Mar 13 06:58:29 rwhitby: huh... any ideas? :) Mar 13 06:59:50 rwhitby: -very- similar scripts worked just before I had to give up the phone Mar 13 07:00:22 oh, by the way, nothing is working in preware for me. Mar 13 07:01:14 downloading feed information takes a very long time Mar 13 07:01:26 then when it is all done, it says none of them were loaded or whatever. Mar 13 07:01:36 Decimate: bummer Mar 13 07:01:46 rwhitby: THANKS FOR THE HELP HOLMES. Mar 13 07:02:33 it gives the error "wget:bad address" the nthe name of the site like ipkg.preare.org, or prethemer.com for all of them Mar 13 07:03:20 Decimate: and the web browser works? Mar 13 07:03:43 Decimate: DNS resolver problems on your Pre Mar 13 07:03:43 Decimate: try going to prethemer.com in the Pre web browser Mar 13 07:04:17 darronb: no, won't load even google.com Mar 13 07:04:47 hi all Mar 13 07:04:56 rwhitby: they worked Wednesday on a coworker's phone... very similar Mar 13 07:05:09 anybody knows how to add new locale? Mar 13 07:05:24 darronb, rwhitby: so where do i take it from here Mar 13 07:05:28 darronb: reboot after fixing type:game worked Mar 13 07:05:55 Decimate: I presume you've tried cycling the network interface? or rebooting? Mar 13 07:06:01 twa Mar 13 07:06:03 yes* Mar 13 07:06:33 my wifi must be borked, turning it off and running of EVDO works Mar 13 07:07:18 darronb: if you make start.sh executable, fix the appinfo.json files, retag and push new tags I think we're ready Mar 13 07:07:28 rwhitby: i should have just patched all that Mar 13 07:07:33 Decimate: hotspot that needs logging in? Mar 13 07:07:37 rwhitby: oh, except retagging Mar 13 07:07:56 Templarian: hey I know you get lots of icon requests, don't support you could make one for me? I'm hoping it's a bit easier/quicker than most of your work. Mar 13 07:08:24 Templarian: while I'd be more than happy to use something that was creative and awesome, if you get a chance could you just make a 'X' one? Mar 13 07:08:25 rwhitby: unpassworded home wifi :) Mar 13 07:08:41 Decimate: a broken one then :) Mar 13 07:08:49 hah, it reset my router. Mar 13 07:08:57 and if that's neither quick or easier don't mean to tell you about your business, just seems easier than drawing something more complicated/creative/etc Mar 13 07:10:08 rwhitby: okay, tags pushed i think Mar 13 07:10:43 dtzWill: hmm... "Is the application or service open source or free?" Mar 13 07:11:06 rwhitby: I'm writing a wrapper application to run X (and some basic stuff like setting the key layout, etc), and looking to make a git repo to house that and the compiled binary/libraries (until we have something that can build them). is x11/xlauncher sound reasonable to you? Mar 13 07:11:43 ... free... can preware even support paid non-App Store apps? Mar 13 07:11:55 Templarian: absolutely. source is on webos-internals, it'd MIT licensed ("GPL compatible"), and definitely I'm releasing my work/contributions/build for free Mar 13 07:12:20 And you just need an X... any colour or explain what the app does. Mar 13 07:12:33 Templarian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System Mar 13 07:12:41 20 bucks says it launched x11 Mar 13 07:13:01 Templarian: you can aboslutely do what you want, but a simple "X" I think would suffice and I know you're busy so I was tyring to keep it simple :[ Mar 13 07:13:04 halfhalo_T400: ? Mar 13 07:13:16 this is odd. openssh stopped workin Mar 13 07:13:17 dtzWill: sounds good to me, as long as there's not already a program out there with that name that someone might want to port in the future Mar 13 07:13:21 templarian: actually, the big 'X' in the screenshot on that wikipedia article is a very common way to show it Mar 13 07:13:32 halfhalo_T400: oh you're saying chances are that 'X' runs it Mar 13 07:13:33 darronb: I was just going to copy it hehe. Mar 13 07:13:44 dtzWill: it was in response to what your app was going to be Mar 13 07:13:44 darronb: yeah, but I wasn't sure of the license on that icon, and wanted to avoid any issues. I suppose it's worth looking into Mar 13 07:14:02 given the nature of the app it quite possibly is completely fine to use Mar 13 07:14:16 rwhitby: so, do we look done for now? Mar 13 07:14:22 halfhalo_T400: hahaha yeah. sorry, I'm having too many conversations/tasks, I lost the context. :) Mar 13 07:14:27 methinks it would fall under the MIT licsense Mar 13 07:14:30 halfhalo_T400: yes, 20 bucks says 'X' just /might/ run x ;) Mar 13 07:15:46 (dtzWill: don't worry if you take up too much of my time the waiting developers I'm sure will "deal with it") Mar 13 07:15:57 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:X.Org_Logo.svg fwiw Mar 13 07:16:10 (i'm trying to find license information on the x logo) Mar 13 07:16:52 Templarian: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:X11.png Mar 13 07:16:56 BSD licensed Mar 13 07:17:08 rwhitby: awesome, and ty :) my google-fu is weak Mar 13 07:17:40 darronb: we're done. I'll push to the testing feed. Mar 13 07:17:41 there goes that idea... hehe. Mar 13 07:18:05 darronb: oh, screenshots Mar 13 07:18:18 rwhitby: screenshots are messed up? Mar 13 07:18:22 YAY qt coming to testing feed :) Mar 13 07:18:33 darronb: [\ is meant to be a line continuation character, with URLs on separate lines Mar 13 07:18:49 oh wait does BSD mean you can or can't use it? Mar 13 07:18:54 darronb: good work! (well of course with the original port, haha, but you knew that ;). good work packaging this stuff up, and thanks for your efforts!) for what it's worth :D Mar 13 07:19:08 darronb: I'm also worried about the comma in the MAINTAINER, cause Preware might think that is two maintainers Mar 13 07:23:21 http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9701/icon11w.png < so you can or can't use this image? Mar 13 07:23:25 rwhitby: fixed Mar 13 07:23:50 Templarian: BSD can be used Mar 13 07:24:06 That's good did you need other sizes? Mar 13 07:24:55 darronb: sorry, take a look at apps/preware/Makefile for what I meant for the screenshots Mar 13 07:25:01 oh interesting question. I was just looking for something to throw into preware/launcher with. Mar 13 07:25:27 I'm not completely sure what sizes are needed, assumed it was all just the one size? I'm been super lucky so far that more graphically inclined people have helped with that Mar 13 07:25:41 darronb: doesn't matter on these ones, since they will only have a single image, just for future reference Mar 13 07:26:26 rwhitby: qtstyles has multiple images, but it's on separate lines. I think I copied the apps/stella example, which doesn't start on a fresh line either Mar 13 07:26:35 darronb: look in build/armv7/CONTROL/control for how it comes out - it needs to be a valid JSON string in there Mar 13 07:26:59 rwhitby: xlauncher passes the google test :). only project I see for it is something that automates launching X for cygwin... so I hope no one ports that ^.^ Mar 13 07:27:00 darronb: you've got an extra \ before the first space compared to stella Mar 13 07:27:08 dtzWill: cool Mar 13 07:27:16 rwhitby: wow, it's that picky? :) Mar 13 07:27:43 darronb: probably not Mar 13 07:29:21 darronb: any more changes before I push to testing feed? Mar 13 07:30:12 rwhitby: just moved a few to separate lines Mar 13 07:30:19 rwhitby: should be ready now Mar 13 07:31:06 well, it's pretty late here Mar 13 07:31:09 darronb: check line 39 on some of the Makefiles - needs to a tab rather than 8 spaces for makefile command lines Mar 13 07:32:07 rwhitby: huh. editor must have converted to spaces Mar 13 07:32:25 darronb: and line 14 of qtstyles/Makefile has an extra space after the \ causing it not to be a line continuation Mar 13 07:33:01 6 or 7 of them have the tab to spaces problem Mar 13 07:33:14 Templarian: tyvm for the icon :D Mar 13 07:33:51 darronb: what would you like to say in the @webosinternals tweet when we've checked the testing feed and released it? Mar 13 07:34:42 rwhitby: you probably would anyway, but could you announce when it's built/ready for testing? (your comments suggest you're monitoring this build, if not I can f5 watch the logs ;)) Mar 13 07:35:03 darronb: "WebOS Internals developer Darron Black has released the Qt demo applications for installation with Preware" ? Mar 13 07:35:35 darronb: maybe a twitter handle or link you want to add? Mar 13 07:36:15 dtzWill: I'll announce here when it's in testing, a couple of us will test, then we'll release. Mar 13 07:36:25 @webosinternals will tweet on the release Mar 13 07:36:30 rwhitby: sounds good. if there's room, maybe a link to www.griffin.net ... but then I'd need to update the blog once it's really released Mar 13 07:36:46 rwhitby: i think i've got the last of those issues done now Mar 13 07:37:04 rwhitby: right, I meant post here please, and I'll give it a test :) Mar 13 07:37:17 darronb: building now Mar 13 07:37:29 rwhitby: right now, the blog has instructions to add a feed to my own server to install it :) Mar 13 07:37:49 darronb: well, we can simplify that for people :-) Mar 13 07:38:43 rwhitby: well, the commit log on this stuff must look terrible. :) Mar 13 07:39:18 the qt repos show up on the main webgit page now Mar 13 07:40:34 darronb: yeah, there's some caching thing happening there. Mar 13 07:41:18 ok, I'm setting up a parallel autobuilder for the unreleased directory to go to the testing feed Mar 13 07:41:37 cause my upload bandwidth is crap Mar 13 07:41:58 should take 5 minutes or so to set it up Mar 13 07:42:31 rwhitby: okay... i really should go in 10 min or so Mar 13 07:42:35 ok, it's up to q1 now Mar 13 07:42:38 1:42am Mar 13 07:42:38 qt Mar 13 07:42:55 darronb: do you have the testing feed set up in Preware? Mar 13 07:43:14 rwhitby: no, no phone. does it work on emulator? Mar 13 07:43:22 nope, need i686 build for that Mar 13 07:43:36 rwhitby: preware, i mean. Mar 13 07:43:48 darronb: preware does, but it won't see the armv7 packages Mar 13 07:44:16 rwhitby: okay. well, i may try to do the 686 packages at some point Mar 13 07:45:21 dtzWill: they're in the testing feed now Mar 13 07:45:28 oh, darronb did you add the DEPENDS lines? Mar 13 07:45:39 rwhitby: ty Mar 13 07:45:39 rwhitby: yes... hopefully correctly Mar 13 07:47:20 mandelbrot installed and ran Mar 13 07:47:50 rwhitby: are you trying them all now? i'll wait for that if so Mar 13 07:48:08 darronb: yep Mar 13 07:48:23 dtzWill: you test the dependency, cause I had Qt already installed Mar 13 07:48:36 qtopengl will run, but isn't going to show anything in the opengl box Mar 13 07:49:50 rwhitby: err I don't see it? refreshing doesn't make it appear, and i'm definitely on the testing feed. (ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-inetransl/testing or so) Mar 13 07:49:57 well and the fact that i've been on testing for a while :) Mar 13 07:50:13 darronb: so is qtspread the first working spreadsheet program for the Pre? Mar 13 07:50:21 dtzWill: do you have the armv7 URL ? Mar 13 07:50:58 darronb: should we leave qtopengl in unreleased for the moment? Mar 13 07:51:32 rwitby: well, it's a demo... I haven't really played with it enough to tell how functional it is. I've just changed a few boxes Mar 13 07:51:43 rwhitby: I.. did not. not sure how that happened. updating now Mar 13 07:52:11 rwhitby: i compiled most of the demos in about a 3 hour period, quickly ran them and checked to see if they fit on the Pre screen reasonably well... not much more. :) Mar 13 07:52:34 rwhitby: depeneds works--at least it wanted to install qt framework. Mar 13 07:52:42 rwhitby: i had 3 days to complete the entire port... Nokia had a big conference they wanted to show off Mar 13 07:52:50 rwhitby: installing qt spread momentarily, will report if/when it works Mar 13 07:53:14 darronb: yep, it's all good Mar 13 07:53:24 darronb: so release everything except qtopengl? Mar 13 07:53:29 rwhitby: cool. :) ... well, time to go to bed Mar 13 07:53:44 darronb: it'll be in the public feeds within 15 mins Mar 13 07:53:55 rwhitby: how long in testing before it's pushed ... oh.. wow. okay. Mar 13 07:55:43 rwhitby, darronb runs and works :D Mar 13 07:56:42 err qtspread runs and launched, dep works. Mar 13 07:57:41 pushed to autobuilder Mar 13 07:58:08 :D Mar 13 07:58:34 triggering build Mar 13 07:59:05 darronb: do you have a twitter handle? Mar 13 07:59:06 rwhitby: I updated my blog post now, so if you twitter it, a link to www.griffin.net (or http://www.griffin.net/2010/02/qt-on-the-palm-pre.html) would be great Mar 13 07:59:54 rwhitby: not at the moment. Mar 13 08:00:38 ok, should be in public feeds now, modulo the 5 min caching on ipkg.preware.org Mar 13 08:01:23 http://bit.ly/qt-on-palm-pre Mar 13 08:01:53 I'll double check on my production device and then tweet Mar 13 08:02:29 rwhitby: now on twitter as griffininet . :) Mar 13 08:04:25 there is possible to get virtual keyboard patch in .ipk? Mar 13 08:04:35 I want to look that Mar 13 08:04:56 darronb: How's "WebOS Internals dev @griffininet (Darron Black) releases Qt demos - install using Preware (http://bit.ly/qt-on-palm-pre)" sound? Mar 13 08:06:15 rwhitby: pretty good. thanks. :) Mar 13 08:06:34 Preware installing the dependency now ... Mar 13 08:07:15 darronb: do you make it clear on your blog it's only for the Pre, and why? Mar 13 08:07:54 darronb: and do you want to start a thread in the WebOS Internals forum on PreCentral, and we'll tweet that as the official discussion area? Mar 13 08:09:24 rwhitby, build.git pushed postinst.testing, prerm.testing and unreleased/change-user-agent Mar 13 08:09:25 rwhitby: hmm, I just updated the blog with a little blurb about that Mar 13 08:09:43 please sanity check *.testing scripts. The first commit of them was direct copy of postinst and prerm scripts currently used Mar 13 08:09:55 egaudet: want testing feed yet? Mar 13 08:10:04 sure Mar 13 08:10:06